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8281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 22, 2017, 02:14:14 AM
It seems to me gambling is sand in the eyes, falling on blind luck is reckless, there are rumors of the legendary gamblers who live pripivayuchi, although more people are grieving only typed. In general, my answer is no, can not

its always depend for those who played gambled if you are responsible gambler maybe you can say you can get some profits in the long run since you understand
how the game works but if you are just relying with luck I will agree that there's no chance to gain profits instead big losses will happen.

Well if you play something like dice then there is nothing that you need to learn about the game - just how it works will do you anyone. What I mean to say that is all luck based games are just the same because in the end the house edge will always win and not the players. However if you try the EV+ games and PvP games then there is a method to win because you can try to outsmart the opponent.

Dice game is really based on a pure luck game. No amount of strategies will be going to work with dice - when you see that one of your strategies is perfectly doing well at the moment, mind you when you keep on betting more, you will just be surprised that your bankroll will be depleted in just one blink of an eye.
Its not surprising anymore and this is how its works and this is the common results on playing dice this is why we should really not expect that we can able to make money on playing gambling for long term targets.
Profitable only for those professional gamblers butt only to those games who do need technique,analysis and experience like on card games and sports bettings.

long term playing will be very vulnerable to the house edge advantage.. That is the fact and most of the gamblers know it from the beginning but still risks because of the thought and hope to win big in just a short period of time.
If you think about it, the more you play, the chances of you losing, is increasing. When the house edge is 1%, as you continue, those percentage would increase and add up to the total games you played, meaning more chance to lose. You can never really say if you're going to win or not but those are numbers, unless you are really lucky.
8282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 22, 2017, 01:54:04 AM
No way to do an easy money in gambling. And the usual way is betting or rolling on the dice and wait for your fortune and shows up "win" that's the easiest way.
Gambling relies too heavily on luck and there is definitely no easy way in gambling because luck comes and goes to us as they please. Luck can not be predicted when it will come to us, luck can come anytime. Sometimes luck does not come when we really need them.

It's like you can win an easy win once in a blue moon. But there are times that gamblers will win an instant easy win but it will be recovered again when they gamble and will be losing from their bets. This is the life in gambling, the path is really unreliable and no one can tell you a definite way of winning with an easy way.

I like the way you put it. it's just not practical to never make mistakes and so there's no easier way to make profit. All profits must come with hard work and sacrifice, something I've found many gamblers don't practice/use them.

and I think it is also the best idea that aside doing the hard work, we will make a system of the process and leverage on it - after working hard and found the system, that is the time to work smartly Smiley
We often think that we could really earn a lot of money just by gambling, but it's not as easy like that, and I've learned that the hard way and I regret not studying or preparing to gamble. The best thing that you could do is find someone who has already experience and try to learn from it, it's a risk that you can take.
8283  Other / Off-topic / Re: Tetris on: August 21, 2017, 10:53:48 AM
Hey guys, I'm a fan of playing Tetris ever since it was released. I tried the old times like in the Game boy or in the IBM PC version. I studied different tactics like 4 space, Stacking, and my specialty, T-Spin. It's so fun with all the colors (when it has colors now not just shapes). It's fun.

Have you played it? And what is your playing style?

nice game, nostalgia here  Grin
It is really a nostalgia because it's awesome to play it, especially with friends when you're up against them. Tetris battle is awesome.
8284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: August 21, 2017, 10:49:58 AM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
Gambling is very addicted because in my opinion, gambling is very entertaining and at the same time it involves money that makes the game more exciting, especially when the game has a huge amount of jackpot that we can possibly hit.
It is definitely addicting because it just gives you the opportunity to win money with playing and that's the thing that they want with gambling. Hopefully, someone has won a lot of money with gambling because I haven't won a large amount. It's amazing if you manage to do that, it's awesome.
8285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 21, 2017, 10:28:43 AM
Of course I will earn all my winnings so that if I'm going to gamble again I have bitcoin to be used. And the half of my winnings I will withdraw it so that i can help my parents with our financial needs. But I will need to control myself in gambling so that I can manage my bitcoin well.

If you can withdraw it then withdraw it first before you play again. It is always much better option to have something from gambling rather than spending it all. It is hard to get profit from a gambling that is why you should appreciate it more. Sometimes we only get small amount but it is better than losing everything
It's easy to withdraw if you have the will because sites will not gonna hold our money, in fact they'll sure bring you a good service so you will gamble again.
Spending your profit is a best practice but since you do not win all the time you will have to practice also how to deal when you are in the losing situation, still be steady with following the rule which is to spend based on budget and you will be fine.
Probably, that's how they entice you to gamble again, keeping it there until you would be tired of waiting and gamble it again and until that, you might lose it and before you know it, you have no winnings anymore. I agree with you that you should practice handling yourself in a smart way not just in gambling but in everything. You could be better with limitations and patience.
8286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: August 21, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
Gambling i consider money i will loose. I never gamble with money i need.

Short but right nevertheless. Gambling with money you can't afford to lose could be the worst mistake you can make in gambling. If you bet and you lose the bet it's okay as long as you don't lose big money for you. You play the game, you enjoy it and no one suffers from that, neither you nor your family or your loved ones.
Sometimes we have a problem on understanding what amount or value that we can gamble that we can afford to lose, because prior to the actual gambling we think this money is something we can afford to lose but when we eventually lose that money we think we still have to gamble to recover our loses.
My definition of an amount that we can afford to lose is something that does not really affect us, but it's hard in real practice IMO.

Oh, that's an easy part. Smiley The maximum amount you can afford to lose in one day should be calculated this way:

(The amount you make per month) / 300

In other words it should be below 0.33% of what you make per month. Thus you will never lose in one month more than 10% of you make, which is a lot, of course, but bearable.


I have never thought about that in that way but I think it can be effective because it won't be a lot that would really affect my salary and responsibilities that I need to address first, like my priorities. How long have you been doing that with your state and gambling?
8287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: August 21, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
My advice is that you should stop whenever you feel that you will lose. Or, if you can't feel that you'll lose just stop after you lost 3 times in row you should stop gambling asap, as this way you will protect your money so this will help you. If you can't stop gambling, just use less money in gambling till you can control.
Good advice, I agree with your suggestion if losing three consecutive times is a sign of being unlucky, but if so he should stop and resume it a later date. Controlling the emotions must watch for a gamblers.

Losing once is enough for you to quit gambling, well it depends on the person I think, because there are people who don't want to guce up just like that especially if they had risked something, they will do anything to take it back, they don't care how many times they will going to lose again, it is normal to them, they just want to win big on gambling.
We all have different reactions and response to different occasions whether you win, or you lose. Some people tend to want to play more because they want to have revenge against the casino and probably, in the long run, will fail but that doesn't stop them. It's addiction that we need to prevent and leaving early is not a bad thing. It could help you and make you happier emotionally.
8288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 21, 2017, 09:17:40 AM
In the casino come to win, and indeed if the case is connected with money, what can be the limitations? Did you come to cringe or win? If you are weak and not sure of yourself, what would you achieve until the end so why participate at all?

It's should be always playing to win because if you don't, why bother? It's just that this thread suggest that you should put limits on yourself in order to have the best experience with gambling even if you lose, you limit yourself, and if you, it's better for you. It's not that we need it really, but it's for your improvement and decreasing the chance of emotional breakdown.
8289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: August 21, 2017, 05:23:41 AM
Because gambling is easy to earn money especially if you win. Most people get addicted because this is the most popular activities it gives fun and profit to the people and gamblers. Even if sometimes we lose but it exciting when we gamble. It become addicted maybe of its price and the jackpot waiting for all. People become addicted due to their personal problems and stress so that they want escape that's why they go gamble.
Winning is the only thing in gambling that could make you money, nothing else. It's the feeling that you're getting when you play it whether it's because of fun or the profit that you could make, it's still the person's choice. I hope no one has ever felt the need to gamble all the time because they are addicted to it, because addiction is really hard to fight.
8290  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Renewable Energy on: August 21, 2017, 05:10:56 AM
This will not be realized properly, even though this is the case, but it does the greening of the earth in many ways, but it will not be balanced because on the other side of the big companies that do illegal logging, sand mining and many others that potentially damage the nature in large scale
What do you mean by realized properly? It has been established but there some drawbacks that needed to be addressed like the cost of producing it, it can't really be mass produced unless it's supported by a lot of people. It's all about business and politics, in my opinion, that's why there are not enough power with applying renewable energy. I hope there would be some kind of entity that would help fix that.
8291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 21, 2017, 05:08:31 AM
If i win big i will buy important things such as house cloths and invest some in a business and the rest i will help some charity .
I think that was some of the best thing to do with the  winnings.because  if we kept it for the another gambling time.there will be a  possibility that it will be  lost.so by then we cant call it a winning.
But if we buy the important things . We can call it a winning already.
Isn't it pretty obvious what most of the people will do with winnings? People will try to get settle and if they have a kind generous heart, some may also give a portion to charity. However, I like one thing about you, not gambling again with your winnings. The best is to buy Bitcoins and increase them.
That's what I was thinking if ever, but you can't really say because people tend to act on themselves first, in my opinion, that's what I probably would do and after everything, if there's still something left, I would then donate to a charity. It's the winnings that make ourselves more greedy and I hope not everyone is like that.
8292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: August 21, 2017, 05:03:59 AM
If you guys are planning to place bets on either of these fighters, Betking.io will be reopening early next week and you can bet there. Good luck folks!

thans for the info mate. I will try to beat a little  bit to the side of conor so it could boost  my hype during the fight for this up coming weekend  huehue
I was looking for a website that accepts bets with their fight. It's really close now and that's really exciting because I was rooting for them to fight ever since they were trash-talking each other, but that's just media thing in my opinion.
8293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: August 20, 2017, 12:24:26 PM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.
analysis and stratagies in the world of game is very important how to win, in the gambling need analysis also with the stratagy have a chance to get the winning bet, but remember in the game in gambling the money of yours are in the risk.
It's important for me that's why I use strategies because it greatly improves the chances of winning, and I'm not the type of person that always gambles, it's just a casual thing for me. It's something that's important for me to keep the bitcoins that I have because it's not a lot yet.
8294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 20, 2017, 12:09:36 PM
Many gamblers do not set limitations when they gamble that is why they end up broke. As for me I see to it that the money i use in gambling is just 1% of my salary so thay if i will lose it wont be that much and the sole purpose why i gamble is for fun.

Yup. I would admit that I may not be a very responsible gambler as limit I set to myself vary from time to time. But I am not someone who gambles more than what I can afford to lose.
That's something that is good to know because you are somewhat limiting it already with the amount that you could probably lose, and that's not the hard part. In my opinion, the hard part is still yet to come when you have felt the addiction or something, it's still hard to win in the long run.
8295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 20, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
addiction gambler is on wrong way unhealthy of looking at money and life, they have a mistake about two things. Then, for cessation must start from his mind. Busied yourself by doing different things than usual, or looking new acquaintances out there might help to reduce the temptation of mind to gamble. Slowly but surely you can quit from gambling addiction.

it is unhealthy because for someone like me that is addicted. I spend alot of time playing, atleast for 1 hour most of the day. Whenever I dont play, I keep thinking about it, I used to play for hours but I have changed into a better person these days. I only gamble to have fun with controlled amount whenever I play
I think 1 hour day isn't really bad at all compared to those some gamblers who do spent almost 5-10 hours depending on the game which they are playing. There comes to a point when I got addicted on gambling because it did affect my financial state already and later on I realize that I am already doing the wrong thing and I don't want to mess up my life because of gambling.
People who are addicted sometimes tend to spend their hours in the casinos, maybe there are there in days. Usually, the hotels associated with the casinos tend to give out free stays so that the gamblers keep on gambling and they would never leave easily because they have room to stay in, it's just that easy for the casino to keep people in.
8296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 20, 2017, 09:01:21 AM
gambling is wrong way to get profit, gambling just wasting your money, you will never get any profit in long term, better buying some vga and earning from mining
You are right but there are some mebers here are relying on gambling for their daily expenses im also one of them but im playing once a week on sports betting and put all my funds in one game only.
if you've read many threads in the gambling discussion so you must have read there's someone who earn income from gambling with a smarts way they can make a profit. it's true gambling is not intended for long term if you are not professional in gambling.

Hmm I also have confidence in someone who is earning that always stay in the gambling. Where they can get it because the intelligence they play gambling they do flow, but indeed it takes quite a long time in order to get results that match your expectations. One of the things that it does have to have is self control and analysis, if that's what you get 100% you will get many advantages.
 
There are strategies that could be studied and be benefited with the right application and the right emotion when gambling. For sure, there are ways that you could really profit from gambling all the time but it's probably a secret and would keep it to yourself because you won't know what could happen if there are a lot of people using your strategy.
8297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: August 20, 2017, 08:48:34 AM
It is not just gambling but everything of which someone is addicted, is not easy to give up. You are the person who can help you at first, you need to make yourself assure that what were you doing till now was wrong and is bad in all perspectives then seek external help. It needs strong will and clear vision driven by inner will and you can get rid of gambling addiction over the time.

Sometime it is not easy to change yourself. You also need some support to empower yourself to overcome all sort of difficulties. But of course, the first and most important is that you must take the first step and willing to put in effort to change, then the other support will be useful to help you to change.
Once a person has made his mind to accomplish something, he becomes unstoppable then. Gambling addicts face a lot of difficulties when it comes down to quitting. Even they are aware of their present situation and want to get out of it most of them still keep on gambling.

Specially if the person has got no other source of earning then gambling is the only way for them to make a living. It is sad but true that many people have not got qualifications to get a proper job with which they can earn money and thus they join a casino. For them getting addicted is natural and its not possible to stop them. Even if they do find a job later on its tough for them to get rid of old habits.
That's the thing about earning money, it shouldn't be as risky as gambling. It should be a sure thing whether you have made a business or working as an employee, it's still a better source of money. Just like you said, they can gamble all they want as long as they have money. Stopping addiction is really hard, no one could really help you with that but yourself.
8298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 20, 2017, 08:17:47 AM
I've read here a lot about "Gambling doesn't make you rich" So I thought about it, and it does make sense. So what do you feel about gambling then? Just entertainment? I think that's not everybody's mindset.

In the back of my mind, I want to be rich but not because of gambling. But when I gamble, I still always want to win. So when you always win, you become more rich and more risk will be involved. Anyway, if I would earn a winning bet that would have a lot of profit from, I would withdraw the initial bet or the bitcoins I deposited to get it back, then still gamble.

If you would have a winning bet that would give you a lot of profit, what would you do with it?

So what do you feel about gambling then? Just entertainment? I think that's not everybody's mindset.
 You know what, it is true that this was not everybody's mindset, there aare some gambler take this as their own profit. Some are luck dependent were believing one day they could hit the jackpot price, something like that. Besides, all player in the gambling site had the same reason why they're inside this industry that is they wanted to win not to loose.

That's the professional gamblers that we are talking about, they have lots of experience and a lot of balls to take risks and they are successful. Maybe they are really made for that and maybe for anyone of us that gambles, we could win something like that. It's not easy but it could happen, we just need to not be hopeful about it.
8299  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Newbie Welcome Thread on: August 20, 2017, 08:12:39 AM
Hooray!! Hello every one. sana madaming kababayan ko makapag register dito.salamat sa tulong ng friend ko na nagpakilala sakin sa bitcoin.
Im happy to be part of this forum.Sana madami akong matutunan sa tulong ng ating mga kababayan.
Welcome Kabayan! Madaming pwede matutunan dito at mga bagay na hindi basta basta na aaccess ng iba, hindi lang ganun kadali kumita dito pero kung matiyaga ka, kayang kaya. Marami ng pinoy dito, at sana mag stay ka din dito at matuto.
8300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 20, 2017, 08:05:44 AM
Hi guys!
We all know that gambling is not only a fun but also potential danger. So are you limiting yourself somehow when gambling? DO you use casino's instruments to prevent you spending more money?
Or do you just limit yourself by setting a certain amount of money to spend? Or you don't limit yourself at all?
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Yours OshiHugo, Oshi.io CM

I limit my self when gambling. It's really hard to gamble with all of your money. I don't really take gambling seriously, I usually just gamble to play with my friends and to have fun. I think that gambling is made for entertainment, and it's stressful if you gamble and just think of the money.

Which makes stress is when gambling and we lose all the money that is owned, regardless of us gamble with whom good friends, other people and gambling online. Because stress is related to what we miss
It's not safe to always think about the money because it's not everything. It shouldn't be the one that dictates your actions because it could lead to catastrophic events in your life. Not only that it could lead you astray with decisions, it would make your friends wary of you, that's why we need limits.
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