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8301  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many btc do you have? on: October 01, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
What is a good amount to have? Is there some kind of club if you own a certain amount?  Like the 21 btc club or some shit? What is average, and big pimpin?

I never go lower than 21, is that good or bad?

I own 22.5 BTC. Is that good enough?
You now own just over one-millionth of the total supply of Bitcoin ever, if you think that's an achievement for yourself then that's good for you.

I personally can't imagine ever having 22.5BTC, so I would say that yeah, you are good. There will only ever be, at most, 1 million people that will hold more Bitcoin than you, and that would be if it was distributed equally.

My goodness 22.5BTC was a big amount and good savings that can be considerate. I can say dude that you are one of the successful bitcoin enthusiast here in bitcoin world. I only got 0.8BTC for a couple of months since I joined here this year only.

If you really own that big amount may i know if what  certain wallets are you using well you don't have to be specific all i want to know if you are using online wallet or a desktop wallet. If you are using online wallet i supposed that it was on blockchain?

you wont know  since he would not intend to tell  where those funds are being stored. 22btc is  already decent and you could   make already some  investments with that amount. Earning even 1 btc as of today  is soo damn hard and  not easy you would really make  do hard workd in able to attain it.
8302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 01, 2016, 02:55:47 PM
Not at the current state. People are still dependent on banks to have access to paper money, because there are few places where you can get this through Bitcoin ATMs. In addition, there are few places where you can spend Bitcoin directly.

So, what do you think more easily?
Places start to accept Bitcoin or a new altcoin made by banks?
Think about that! Bitcoin will never got this market...

An altcoin made by a bank wont be able to get as much success as bitcoin has got, because a bank would only be promote its coin into a single country because they cannot be international but every country has their own banks, but bitcoin is popular in all the world or it will be, so a coin made by a bank wont be able to compete with bitcoin.

Altcoin made  by bank would be  still useless  since people would  definitely  consider bitcoin as  the main crypto and   each country has its own bank  and  if they intend to  do  altcoins for their country  it would be still useless same as you said. They cannot compete with bitcoin for sure. Bitcoin cant make  banks disappear.
8303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if...Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly burns 1 million bitcoins? on: October 01, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
I doubt he will take sure actions, as at today's valuation that is $600 million and even have potential of hitting $1 billion. I can't see anything that will motivate him to do that unless Bitcoin becomes too strong a currency and he also will possess the financial weapon to destroy any economy.

Why he would  intend to  burn in out? Since its his  invention after all and he do much hard work  on this  project and he  would  just   burn 1m bitcoin? Hes  not crazy enough to do such thing  In fact  he would   even  make more development on  bitcoins ecosystem and  it would surely help  from  all bitcoin  holders.
8304  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do I make money with $100 USD BTC on: September 30, 2016, 03:53:09 PM
I want to make money with my current BTC how would i go about this
You have 3 choices if you really want to make money with bitcoin first is to do gambling you can earn up to x10 there depends on what gambling you are going to play with second trading , trading is really profitable depends also what coins you are going to buy the last one is investment let your money work for you.

But what if he looses everything in gambling at the first stage, and then he won't have any option to go for trading as he will be left with nothing in hands, so its better avoid gambling and go for trading directly.

Correct, if you have  money  dont gamble right away its better to lend you money  on  good investments like trading but remember trading isnt an easy thing  because you would  really need knowledge  on it  for  you to able make  good decent  profits  with your money in the  future.
8305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: September 30, 2016, 03:51:45 PM
I think it might disappear but if internet disappears and if that happens then people will definitely go mad as everyone is dependent on it but I don't think that internet will disappear in future in fact it will be more stronger in coming years, Also bitcoin being replaced as the digital currency is unlikely as well.

It was a statement that makes no sense and would not be likely to occur. Because the internet is the parent of all people able to communicate and provide information that can be done anywhere. so the Professor and also the expert in question will do something that can do these things for prevention

True, if internet would be  gone then for sure  communication all over the world  would be affected and  for sure there would be an  economic disaster  because  all most  all of the things  here  on  our planet does  depend completely on internet  and thats the reality especially we are  on already  in  high tech era. Bitcoin  would disappear possibly but  not now.

I don't think that internet will disappear in future, in fact it will become more advanced in future and will have more high speed features so I don't think that it can be a reason for making bitcoin disappears.


For sure internet would  not possibly disappear in the future in fact it would  more developed  because  as we all know that technology does develop every year and theres no way to kill it immediately hence all  people using it. Bitcoin would disappear if theres no internet for sure.
8306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: September 30, 2016, 03:48:30 PM
Stopping with gambling can be done, I would let your friends help you to social control you and also believe self in it, if you do that I'm pretty sure that you will succeed with stopping with it.

It is possible to exit from gambling. But it would be very difficult if they don't entirely want to get out of gambling or did they get addicted in gambling. so it is something that should be done will be greatly hindered to succeed. If you want to get out of gambling, eliminate all thoughts about gambling and enlisted the help of family or friends to control our activities
well everything is possible to be honest, in my opinion it would be really hard to quit it if you are addicted
Not all people are hardly get out or quit into gambling if they are addicted because i am also addicted before but i can control my self because i know i will have nothing to get in gambling almost everything in gambling you can get nothing..

A very precise and very smart. basically gambling just give some advantage and afterwards we will get addicted to that can ruin our lives. Pleasure that always comes up is something that probably will never be something, because the pleasure gains was the impact of profits while we get

Agree all of those  pleasures and chills that  you gain on doing  gambling is  just temporary and thats the  only thing you could able to get from it  and remeber  the addiction would  come out for sure. But  in the long run gambling would  leave you nothing and thats  why some people are already awared of that  thats why they  dont get too adicted easily.
8307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: September 30, 2016, 03:46:14 PM
Usually dice games should be done for entertainment purposes. Other than that sports betting or poker is the best when it comes to gambling.

This is the most obvious gambling game where the house actually always wins. And even they are going to have closure with their percentage of winning.

Still in the end the house wins with dice, that is why when I get addicted with dice there is no day that I have won a great amount of bitcoins.

Because I always lose with dice.

All of that is absolutely right, because I see all the gambling is a business for those who open the business. all things related to business will surely be more emphasis on service and also profits, so if we want to get the advantage in gambling then it should be ready to play in quite a long time
And if you can beat the gambling site playing in the long run, that is only our chance to make profit, however it is really hard to do that since it is the advantage of the gambling sites that a gamblers will play them in the long run, if they play in the long they will lose because they are just gamblers.

No one could really beats the house edge  in the long run  no matter how  hard  you try maybe for those  lucky ones that played   and gain big profits  for sure they have the chance to  avoid the house but  it would  not happen anytime since the results  on lossing  is much higher  than winning.
8308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: September 30, 2016, 03:44:09 PM
It is the fun where you can use your money with it. Yes, because the ones who get fun from gambling are the rich ones.
Myself, who was barely getting money from bitcoin would not risk it to gambling.

It's not just for the rich ones, and also the losing is the same whether you are rich or poor, the thing is, you will lose money in gambling and I think there is no fun on experiencing that...I think the OP is not saying that it is more fun in gambling, instead, it states that when you lose money in gambling, that's the time you could feel the fun, which is the opposite I think...  Smiley

You are  right  no matter how  rich or  poor you are you could still able to play gambling  but the advantage  of  being rich is there but the  most common thing  that  you would definitely loss your money on the long run. Fun in gambling would be described when you are experiencing  winning streaks  but if you are lossing then its  not fun anymore.
Im not agree the fun thing in gambling is when you enjoy it playing not just only wasting money winning streaks is just a bonus . So play what kind of gambling site you think you will enjoy.

That is really fun when you are going to win as you gamble but if you are not aiming to win as you gamble and you just want to have fun with your money.

Then you are lying because no one wants just to keep on having fun without any returns. You are bias if you are going to say that you are just gambling for fun.

It is more fun in gambling because of the possible to win some good money.

Well, he have still a point though, there are really people dont  mind  on their money  just to play gambling  because they are definitely seeking for  leisure tthey dont  care even if they  lose as long they feel the thrills and excitement when they are playing gambling.
8309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 30, 2016, 03:41:14 PM
because you think that it can make you endless money but you actually would lose a lot of money in a short time
this the common idea coming from those very lazy people who loves to earn in a easy ways thinking that they can easily doubled their moeny in such a way of gambling but unfortunately ending it up losing it and feel sorry.
We cannot rely in gambling when we really want to earn or double our money, we have no assurance in gambling and it is very risky at all. After all gambling is more on luck. We cannot use our strategy here. I know that there are also gambling games that needs strategy but most of the time this is actually more on luck.


Gambling is most risky way of earning if you are going to make it as your main source of income and if you are going to be just an ordinary gambler then that is not going to suffice.

And when a gambler loses that is going to trigger him to keep on gambling to recover his losses that made in gambling.



And upon on keep doing that again and again it is making him as a certified addicted gambler.
From what I understand of a source of income, that is something that you can get in a consistent manner and in my experience I would not consider as a source of income because gambling is all about luck and no assurance you can win even how good the odds are on your bets.
That's true, gambling is very risky and we don't have any assurance when we will get win in the game.
In sports betting you can analyze your game. But most of the time gambling is more on luck and you should not expect that you can win every time you gamble.
It's true but even when the gamblers knew the risk they still played, for me each gambling or games has the same effect for me, whether it's casino games or sport betting, each time i play i feel great sensation to my intuition and every time i played my ego will raise and if i win i feel satisfied, if i lose i will find way to win it, i think that's most of the gamble feel when they played

Well I agree with it the essence of pleasure when we are playing any type of gambling. That's how are we getting addicted with gambling.

By having a chance of winning we tend to keep on gambling even though we all know what are the possible results of it.

And even with higher risk many are getting addicted to it because of the thrill and excitement we can get.

Not only  on the  thrill and  chiils  that we get on playing gambling  but also it includes  the aim  of gaining  profits and thats  reality  on most  gamblers thats why  most of them got addicted  into it especially when they won  big amounts and intend to play more but sadly their winning   just  lose in the end and  now  they would keep chasing on  the loss funds.
8310  Economy / Speculation / Re: why should anyone invest in btc right now? on: September 30, 2016, 03:39:18 PM
you should take a look at what bitcoin is offering and learn more about its features and if you are not convinced then and if you can't see the potential the don't invest but i assure you that if you really seek the potential of bitcoin and realize it then you will stop at nothing to buy more bitcoin before it is too late.

The most people see the reason why they are investing in the bitcoin pretty fast, its only the question if you should invest in it right now because the price is pretty high too buy..

Yes buying bitcoin as  of now  is quite does have  already a high price but still we should  put  up through our minds that bitcoin price would not go lower over 500 price for sure and  600 is still low to consider  because we could really assume that bitcoins price would increase further  more.
8311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin died tomorrow on: September 30, 2016, 03:33:54 PM
Honesty, I don't believe in such scenario in the short term, let's in next 5-10 years.
Yes, in the meantime, many virtual currency will start and die, but Bitcoin is to strong at the moment, clearly industry leader, than I don't believe it can die so quickly.
Of course, I really believe that eventually Bitcoin will become mainstream and standard for online payments but if some other virtual currency replace Bitcoin, I will move to that new currency and sell my Bitcoin.



i can't even think that this can ever happen. not even in 5-10 years or more. because bitcoin is open source and it is always being developed and it is being improved. it is not like anything else in the world that stays the same and gets upgraded every now and then.

the constant work will always keep it up to date and adaptable with the current situation of the future.

True, it would easily die for sure because the adoption and  development is increasing day by day month by month and year by year and  it would  not easily die  for sure as long there are people who would use it then  it would stay as  long  its been  used and  adopted.
8312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: September 30, 2016, 03:32:03 PM
I think it might disappear but if internet disappears and if that happens then people will definitely go mad as everyone is dependent on it but I don't think that internet will disappear in future in fact it will be more stronger in coming years, Also bitcoin being replaced as the digital currency is unlikely as well.

It was a statement that makes no sense and would not be likely to occur. Because the internet is the parent of all people able to communicate and provide information that can be done anywhere. so the Professor and also the expert in question will do something that can do these things for prevention

True, if internet would be  gone then for sure  communication all over the world  would be affected and  for sure there would be an  economic disaster  because  all most  all of the things  here  on  our planet does  depend completely on internet  and thats the reality especially we are  on already  in  high tech era. Bitcoin  would disappear possibly but  not now.
8313  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 30, 2016, 03:29:48 PM
Investment gambling sites, to participate in the signature campaign
If we say earn that means we are not risking anything and investing in a certain gambling sites are not earning money because it takes money to make money. It is good to start from the start and signature campaign is a good start, however you need to be in a good rank to earn good amount of money.

Higher rank will give you higher payouts in signature campaign, but even if you start as a low rank member, still you can expect guaranteed amount of bitcoin on regular basis.

Agree,  even  on  lower rank  you could still accept payouts  but  you should expect lower amounts compared to others since  its  really based on your rank. Signature campaigns is the most common thing on  earning bitcoin in this forum. There are lots of ways  indeed  you just try to  search on services section,
8314  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Bitcoin will be worth in July 2017 ? on: September 30, 2016, 03:27:30 PM
Cast your vote with your bitcoin price prediction for the year 2017
i think the Rate wilk be 600-800$/btc because there is a lot of stability in the bitcoin rate and usually it fluctuate in smal interval with the price $600/btc so i think i would not cross $800/btc rate .

i think this is too conservative because we are already at $600-$700, so a +$100 increase is very small, i think it will be $800-1000, much more reasonable as a prediction, but it can be much higher

Well it depends  on  people  perception on  how they saw regarding  on bitcoin  price in next year which  we could somehow assumed  that  it would  definitely inccrease its price but  it  would not surpass 1k mark  for sure  , as he said  we could see price stbilization and  some   price drops  lately which  we could  assume that it would  continue  on next year then its  hard for us to reach  even 900 i guess.IMO
8315  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: September 30, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
Yes, i spend my bitcoin actively in my daily life. It serve as my mobile load provider.
to be honest i have never tried paying with bitcoins for my phone, actually i have never spent any bitcoins
Good for you  that you didnt even spent your bitcoin and i assume you do  have  lots of  bitcoin as  of now. Spending  bitcoin  actively would be  good it depends  on  where you would  use it. Same as  others said they could load their mobile  phone  with the use of bitcoin which is trully an convenient thing.
8316  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1BTC = $600USD, now a good time to buy? on: September 30, 2016, 03:20:29 PM
Many times asked question, and I still have same answer, everything under 1000 dollars is good price for buying. In years to come price will definitely rise. Be patient, big things doesn't come over night, price already rised a lot from last year.
Don't mix daily fluctuations with price rising, that is normal for bitcoin to go up and down. After this holding on 600 dollars I think bitcoin accumulated enough force for this winter and some new rise before new year.


But we cannot throw the part that people have changes in their mind's thats why they keep asking and asking again this questions since price of bitcoins is really unpredictable, and fornmy though's at any price you want to buy is a good price and it will.depends on how and where you want to use bitcoin, and 600$ at this moment is can be called a low price for bitcoin to be choosen to buy since the price stability of this coin has been risin as years comes to its existence.
Thats true, the  main thing or hindrance for people on buying  bitcoin is that they arent sure if its the right  time  to buy since they are already aware on the  bitcoin price movement and  they dont want to lose or suffer negative profit thats why this  question is being asked for how many times. As  you said  Anytime  could be a good time  to  buy bitcoin because  it would surely increase its price in  upcoming years.
8317  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: September 30, 2016, 03:17:19 PM
They can both be good but I think that investing is better because the risks are than not so big as they are normally are.
With trading there are way more risks and its also that it can be not profitable too.

what's the difference between investing in trading for you to say that investing is less risky? investing according to me is even more risky since people nowadays invest in sites and services where at the start you don't know whether or not it's legit.
investing is trading is pretty much the same as gambling because you can easily lose all your money
It is not like that I guess, in gambling you have no basis and all you can do is just to guess base on your luck but in the trading you have the tools that you can use to be successful and can make consistent money.

You are right, maybe  trading and gambling have simmilarities  in terms of  risk on lossing your money  but in trading you could possibly lessen the risk  by trading smartly and some tools and knowledge  that youve  known  on  making trading thats  why you have a higher chance  on gaining profit not compared to gambling  that you are  just  relying fully on being  lucky.
8318  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin rose to $1M, what you do? on: September 30, 2016, 03:15:25 PM
i will sell my bitcoin and withdraw it into my bank account and i can be a new rich man in my city  Grin  after that, i will buy some product to fill in my house and i want to buy new house  Grin but its need take times for more than 3 years before its happen, and i really hope  Grin
Difinitely bitcoin users who had already 1 bitcoin in there wallet will be a goddamn millionaire that day if thats happens but if not then cry baby we all want fast money and we dont want us to do such things that we could lose our money

a very good reason. Indeed basically everyone doesn't want to release or lose money by just doing something that has no meaning or benefit to them. better focus on our goals, because if we move or not focus then the goals will not be achieved or may be lost when we already want to

Setting  goals for future is  a good thing since we could  ready up ourselves  on our  future  plans  regarding  on our lifestyle. Everyone must save up  more bitcoin, as  op claimed if bitcoin would rose to 1m each then   as you said those who  holds 1 btc would be millionaire but it would happen only in dreams for sure. Cheesy
8319  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: September 30, 2016, 03:11:52 PM
hmm if you make big money on internet it can be so easy to do that but if you make poor amount of earnings like beginner i think nobody will trust you because for them earn money online is stupid and risky idea

That is a good point i guess, because if you make some good amount of bitcoins every month then it would be easy for you to tell your girlfriend about it so that she takes more interest in what you say when she hears that you earn a reasonable amount with it each month, because girls like money a lot Grin lol, they love shopping na.

The big question is? Does she intend to do the works  on earning bitcoin? FOr sure she wont since earning bitcoin isnt easy at all as we all know that and girls  dont  like to be  pressured and  dont like complicated things and  with these kind  of  things for sure they would still refuse to engage in bitcoin.
8320  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 30, 2016, 03:10:15 PM
You can borrow from friends. Go get credit in the bank. If not, then you can sell the car or other valuables

The big  question is? Do you own a car? Do you have a stable job? Do you have another  things that are valuable? If none  then you would really have a hard  time  on asking some  loan its either on banks  or  on lending firms  since they would surely  ask for collaterals  and other capabilities  to repay of such loan.
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