go and fuck your self fucking indian with no life I've always found it's the scammers who start the swearing in the currency section first (and the ones who focus on someone's origins are usually serial scammers...) |
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I'll take 1Mist in the meantime. I need an address that I can sign from and prove is mine.
Feel free to post your Part Public Key here, one of us will zap one up for you. (am pretty sure it'll fall into the donation to Shorena section). |
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It's not that I can't see it, I just can't make the connection... |
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You'd be holding the purse until the work is done, but can't actually move the funds around - and I have the carrot incentive to do the work.
I see possible problems here. Even though no single party can access the payment, what if Timelord2067 disappears * or just doesn't answer? That means Alice has paid and shorena can't access the payment for a refund. So as an escrow, this can only be used for trusted parties, and if all parties involved trust eachother, there is no need for escrow. *For the sake of argument I've used Timelord2067 as an example, I have no reason to doubt his intentions  No offence taken - if Timelord2067 disappears [1], neither Timelord2067, shorena, nore Alice can access the funds. I 've only briefly skimmed over the talk about multiple signatures on the BitCoin Escrows thread and it reads as though if one won't sign, no one can access - as I said I've only just skimmed over it, so may have totally misread it. [1] In a Blue Box  |
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a fucker named khan scam me 1$ so now i have 54.08$
Would that be 1MFoamHLriFXGT1JohtPseuNJm9hJWbwN6 0.0023 BTC by any chance? It doesn't come up on a search of BCT  Am sorry to hear you got scammed. |
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I have no negatives on my accounts, as we have cleared that.
Was merely being open about my now main account.
Pardon? I only changed my neg to neutral because of your hard luck story... KWH 70: -0 / +7 2015-11-19 0.00000000 Reference Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1254441.0Good luck with having that one removed. It's a domino effect with trust of Alt's. |
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Thanks for finishing/correcting, the problem I have with your approach is that Alice would have to wait for a payment address. She'd have to wait for her vanity address anyway, but the process is confusing enough as it is for some.
Alice doesn't participate in some steps; she asks for a quote, you give her the quote and at the same time know that I can be contacted (until further notice) for longer problems. Alice accepts the quote and you provide her with a wallet for payment. Unless you both are on line at the same time and there's a degree of urgency to Alice's request (which given a seven plus day mining time is unlikely), it's just given that you and she will have real world commitments. I've underlined what I feel are the key points above. These are the steps from Alice's perspective. In all likely hood you would have my Part Public Key on file and with a 12o67ExampLe1a2b3c4d5e6f7d taking a moment to generate, can take the order, give a quote and provide a wallet all in one step. You'd be holding the purse until the work is done, but can't actually move the funds around - and I have the carrot incentive to do the work. |
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iSpace.co.uk SXC Mining has been off-line for two weeks now. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
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We are still working hard to get things fixed and will update again shortly. List of all known SXC Pools can be found here http://sexcoinforum.com/index.php?topic=3.msg4#msg4 |
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(Snippity Snip) @Timelord2067Had a think about the farming work out for week(s) at a time work: You ( shorena ) are contacted by a person wanting work that will take one or more weeks to solve. You contact me to see if I am interested and I send you a Part Public key of mine which you generate a key with the prefix (something memorable ) for example... 1TL2o67 or 12o67TL (the latter I estimate to take about 15 mins at 11MKeys/sec to reach 50% mark) You advise the person requesting work of this wallet address and they pay the full amount into that wallet. You advise me of the wallet address and I confirm payment via http://blockchain.info/address/12o67TLetcETC and begin mining with the details provided using the third parties Part Public Key. When I find the required solution, I send the found Part Private Key to you ( shorena ), you forward to the client who confirms it's validity. You then send me the part Part Private Key for the 1TL2o67 / 12o67TL wallet and from those funds I then send you a small token agreed to previously. Let me rephrase to make sure I understood correctly. Lets assume Alice wants a vanity address 1WoNDRLND (any case). #1 Alice gets a price from shorena. #2 shorena gets a public key from Alice ? Alice pays to <does not exist yet> #4 shorena send Timelord2067 Alice's pubkey #5 Timelord2067 sends shorena a prefix and public key for the payment address (e.g. 12o67) #6 shorena generates the vanity payment address 12o67examp1e1a1a1a#7 shorena asks Alice for payment to 12o67examp1e1a1a1a#8 once payment is confirmed,Timelord2067 starts searching for the address #9 etc... While I like the idea to use a vanity address for this. I think a 2-2 multi-sig wallet (e.g. with electrum) would be easier. Either of us has the addresses, but we can only spend the coins received together. This would simplify things as I could give Alice a payment address right away. Have spent last few days pondering how to rephrase what I wrote above - You've almost got it I've adjusted the order to what I'm meaning... Let's assume Alice wants a vanity address 1WoNDRLND (any case). - # 1 Alice gets a price from shorena.
- # 2 shorena gets a public key from Alice
- # 3
5 Timelord2067 sends shorena a prefix and public key for the payment address (e.g. 12o67) - # 4
6 shorena generates the vanity payment address 12o67examp1e1a1a1a - # 5
7 shorena asks Alice for payment to 12o67examp1e1a1a1a - # 6 Alice pays to
<does not exist yet> 12o67examp1e1a1a1a - # 7a Timelord2067 is advised of the wallet address 12o67examp1e1a1a1a (but not given the corresponding Part Private Key for this address)
- # 7b
4 shorena send Timelord2067 Alice's pubkey - # 8 once payment is confirmed,Timelord2067 starts searching for the address
- # 9 Timelord2067 sends shorena Alice's Part Private Key that he found to forward to Alice
- #10 Alice advises shorena that the Part Private Key works and is installed.
- #11 shorena sends Timelord2067 the Part Private Key for 12o67examp1e1a1a1a
While I like the idea to use a vanity address for this. I think a 2-2 multi-sig wallet (e.g. with electrum) would be easier. Either of us has the addresses, but we can only spend the coins received together. This would simplify things as I could give Alice a payment address right away. TBH I've only heard about electrum in about the last month or so and know even less about it other than two wallets can deposit and withdraw from a third wallet?? |
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Timelord2067
I have read your post a couple of times and looked in the thread it's from but I don't really see what it's for. What's the advantage I would want to ask but in fact I only see that the address would contain TL, so it might be coming from you.
I'm not certain what it is you're asking. The 12067TL would take about 15 mins at 10MKeys/sec to reach 50% to generate a wallet with someone's Part Public Key where as 1TL2067 would take 8 hours at 10MKeys/sec to generate to the 50% benchmark. As I also said in the post, it could as easily been 1rT58FX
1nBAtGy
1YbZurX
1eoiHkf
1oPwnYx
1mdCeN6 which have varying degrees of timing. generating a distinct wallet was only a suggestion, possibly for cross checking later. But what do you think of the concept for Escrow? |
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If I had more time or much faster computational power I'd go ahead and help other people or generate a full "1actmyname" prefix. (But even the non-case-sensitive of that takes 100+ days at my current speed)
I need 11 days for 50% chance for "1actmyname -i". Are you running on a fast CPU, or on a very slow GPU? If you use a fast CPU now, it may be possible to switch to your video card and get much more speed out of it (for me it added approximately 1 character in the same time). Out of curiousity: what if the vanity pool finds the required address, but adds something bad behind it? Just bad luck for the person who bought the address? My search for 1faucets" ended up with an additional "uck" behind it. If someone pays good money for an address, they won't like it. would take me about ~ 2 days to reach 50% with a part public key -i Difficulty: 11,285,585,616,889
Case Sensitive Difficulty: 173,346,595,075,428,786 ON Shorena's Bitcoin Vanity Addresses! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1257817.0 page
| -example- | 1Qdefghij | Y | 1,506,418,547,304 | 0.0167 BTC |
| lihuajkl | 1lihuajkl | Y | 1,583,016,100,557 | 0.0165 BTC |
| -example- | 1Tdefghij | Y | 23,349,487,483,220 | 0.2337 BTC |
| -example- | 1abcdefg | N | 51,529,903,411,245 | 0.495 BTC
So, somewhere over the rainbow this'd cost ~ BTC 0.12 (or there abouts) for a case insensitive. |
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If one bitcoin is worth $1,000,000 someday, and you have 1,000 satoshis lying around in a bunch of different accounts in multiple exchanges, you will have lost $10.
It took five years to get from $1 to it's current $ 415 - by the time BTC gets to $ 1M - $10 won't buy you the wrapper on chewing gum. |
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As with DannyHamilton 's discussion at the top of the (now last) page, I expect scammers will get very cold feet when pressed for this methodology, true there is a risk the person sending to this wallet will get burnt, but the one on the receiving end will never get the funds either.
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I always use coin control. All escrows should, or something like it. (Separate physical wallets or separate wallet files also works.)
I've been having a think about this in another thread - this is talking abut a third party generating a vanity wallet, however, it's application for the transfer of funds or goods has application. (If the Escrow is set up to do this) Had a think about the farming work out for week(s) at a time work: You ( shorena ) are contacted by a person wanting work that will take one or more weeks to solve. You contact me to see if I am interested and I send you a Part Public key of mine which you generate a key with the prefix (something memorable ) for example... 1TL2o67 or 12o67TL (the latter I estimate to take about 15 mins at 11MKeys/sec to reach 50% mark) You advise the person requesting work of this wallet address and they pay the full amount into that wallet. You advise me of the wallet address and I confirm payment via http://blockchain.info/address/12o67TLetcETC and begin mining with the details provided using the third parties Part Public Key. When I find the required solution, I send the found Part Private Key to you ( shorena ), you forward to the client who confirms it's validity. You then send me the part Part Private Key for the 1TL2o67 / 12o67TL wallet and from those funds I then send you a small token agreed to previously.
for example...
You have reinvented escrow, very nice! One suggestion though: get a shorter prefix, like 1Time. It's 30 times faster to find, you don't want it to take hours if the 15 minutes for 50% turns out to be unlucky.
for example...
You have reinvented escrow, very nice! One suggestion though: get a shorter prefix, like 1Time. It's 30 times faster to find, you don't want it to take hours if the 15 minutes for 50% turns out to be unlucky. True was instantaneous even with the Part Public Key I used - I thought for the example I'd use something a little more identifiable with my own account instead of just 12345 or
1234567
1abcd
1abcdef With a random generator I could have said 1TX4s4
1HGYti
1htbLL
19meDb
1bHcXM
1Wxn8J
17vYSO which would leave the client clueless as to who was doing the actual mining. I feel with a shortened moniker this would allay any concerns about a self escrowing scam being committed...
To transpose this into the transfer of crypto to fiat, Regardless of which one is contacting the Escrow , the escrow either asks the seller or buyer for a Part Public Key depending on who is receiving what... (and PayPal is a reversible method of payment) small token agreed to previously means the escrow can request a fee or donation for doing this. Thanks for reading... |
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hello shorena how much it cost for an addy like this 1Lingga ?
There's a chart on the first page which can guide you (scroll down a little bit) |
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I prefer the non-instant escrow contracts, usually these are physical items shipped, or when the buyer and seller can wait a few hours.
Yes, I mean some escrows seem to be online all the time, even without a script that automatically checks the forum and lets them look like being online. Though it can't be done for all. So I often lose escrow requests because I'm answering too late.  Though another good thing is that deals where the trading partner try to push you and are in a rush, are not seldom a scammers attempt to hide an error in the product. Hopes the escrow doesn't check the item in escrow well enough or so. So better not letting someone push you. BitPop says his machine is on 24/7 and it refreshes (paraphrasing here) every hour. |
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Meant to include Chris (Bitcoin7.com) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24598Name: Chris (Bitcoin7.com)
Posts: 10
Activity: 10
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 16 June 2011, 18:45:05
Last Active: 21 July 2011, 03:09:56 Hello, this account is an official member of Bitcoin7.com team, I apply for whitelisting.
Hello Everyone,
Just wanted to post from my own forum account an introduction.
I will be posting from it in the future.
User Account started pretty much at the end of the exchanges short life. Bitcoin7 - Official letter, following first week of operation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=21526.0;all http://archive.is/OGy1L (Archived for future reference) |
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jkminkov started a bitcoin7.com thread three and a half hours prior to the one yeponlyone started that you referred to. 15 June 2011, 08:18:25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17004.0 http://archive.is/3Vok815 June 2011, 10:45:38 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17043.0 http://archive.is/tfZF8Both now archived in full (using the toggle) for future reference. Name: jkminkov
Posts: 454
Activity: 454
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: 05 March 2011, 22:14:01
Last Active: 25 March 2016, 01:21:12 Name: yeponlyone
Posts: 776
Activity: 504
Position: Hero Member
Date Registered: 14 May 2011, 05:49:48
Last Active: 30 December 2015, 07:36:30 Bitcoin7.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22480Name: Bitcoin7.com
Posts: 29
Activity: 29
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 12 June 2011, 23:08:43
Last Active: 04 October 2011, 01:31:44 Bitcoin7.com registers three days earlier than both threads so that fits in with yeponlyone saying s/he was contacted... Hey everyone, I just got a PM from new user, bitcoin7.com, telling me about their new exchange, I've checked it out some and boy does it look classy! Check it out for yourselves, and if we could, would it be possible to whitelist the user so they can give a proper introduction themself? www.bitcoin7.com
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for example...
You have reinvented escrow, very nice! One suggestion though: get a shorter prefix, like 1Time. It's 30 times faster to find, you don't want it to take hours if the 15 minutes for 50% turns out to be unlucky. True was instantaneous even with the Part Public Key I used - I thought for the example I'd use something a little more identifiable with my own account instead of just 12345 or
1234567
1abcd
1abcdef With a random generator I could have said 1TX4s4
1HGYti
1htbLL
19meDb
1bHcXM
1Wxn8J
17vYSO which would leave the client clueless as to who was doing the actual mining. I feel with a shortened moniker this would allay any concerns about a self escrowing scam being committed... |
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