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8381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Restore it's Place in the Market? on: July 27, 2018, 03:12:54 PM
I have been reading post and news that the Some people are saying that Bitcoin will not achieve its price as it was last years and some are saying that it will restore its previous glory this year.

What do you think in this matter?

Feel free to answer.

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Bitcoins will be always at the top since it was the first cryptocurrency that has been created for people to use and all the altcoins are just created in order for people to have variety of coins to invest.
But, it is way beyond the place right now. It has insane bitcoin dominance in the market right now and it needs to be really lower than this. I hope the correction comes to lower altcoins so that bitcoin doesn't drop. Eventually the bitcoin dominance will drop but we rather get btc staying up but alts reaching that instead of bitcoin dropping to reach the alts. It kinda really depends on how long bitcoin will stay up, if it stays up a bit more than alts will eventually reach.

In near future, there could be plenty of chances for success for many new altcoins like eth and ltc. It means the dominance by bitcoin in crypto world may get diluted more. I am afraid that may fall below 10% also in coming years as we are coming only one coin with other 1000s of coins. Maybe these calculations of comparisons are right still the dominance and the top positions are no more having any meaning, imho.
8382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Criteria of a good gambler on: July 27, 2018, 02:19:27 PM
A good gambler will always accept his fate if he loses.

He's a responsible gambler all of the time and like the criteria's written on the first page that's how a good gambler is.
A good gambler will actually not even expect anything such as winning at all from gambling unless he just ends up the luckiest in the world at that moment in time. Not expecting anything serious except fun from gambling will definitely help anyone not to even get to the point of having to control themselves since they already have limit and all they are after anyway is having some fun. In that way, it is more like gambling for the fun reasons and not for the getting rich reasons.

A good player is not someone who constantly wins, but the one who plays on a large, goes to the last to win.
You must be wrong like most other people here. There are thousands of gamblers here who never bother about winning still they all could be considered a step ahead like best gambler. Yes, how you manage your gambling life alone will be deciding ether you are a good or bad gambler and not just your winning counts.
8383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Season on: July 27, 2018, 01:11:02 PM
Lol people talk yet not vote, right now raptors seems to be the highest voted with one.
I bet warriors wins this year too, as long as they do not beat themselves, no one else will beat them so this year if they play like they always play there will be no reason for them to be beaten.

I was surprised with the rockets series since it was easily beatable for a team like gsw yet they failed to finish quickly, I know harden and cp3 is good and all but this is gsw we are talking about. I feel like this year will be easier.
8384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is best practice for gambling?? on: July 26, 2018, 04:14:31 PM
Don't put money in casino you can't afford to lose. People should remember that.
The best way to practice gambling is to practice control trough playing. You can gamble with 1, 10 or 100 dollars, just with control you can stop after making 10% from starting amount. With control you can stop after losing more then 50% and try again after some time, or change the game, just control can stop you from depositing again and again. Greediness is enemy number one, who ever gamble needs to learn how to deal with that  instinct.
Learning gambling is learning how to have some fun and make some money in same time. If It's not a good day, you lost to learn how to not desperate, you lost how much you can afford to lose, don't worry you will try again when you have some money for spending.
Learn how to control yourself in gambling because we can't control the game.
That is really one of the first mistake so many gamblers always make at the start or even along the line while gambling. A lot of people have this mindset that with a huge amount, the chances of losing will be minimal as long as they get the right strategy, but in reality, it is not like that

One thing with gambling is that winning is strictly by luck and most of the time, the luck is always not there, so it is best to always keep that in mind and even if anyone wants to gamble, such a person should be smart enough not to get easily overwhelmed. Many other gamblers here are suggesting to go for free credits for testing their luck and also for finding entertainments but those free credits are not enough for long hours also they may not available all the times. But gambling with such restrictions always good to have so that we may avoid many gambling problems.
8385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Frustrations: Losing Streak on: July 26, 2018, 03:02:20 PM
Not only in gambling but in every walk of life this limiting help you. This make you believe that you are going to have a good result if things are under limit.
To avoid frustration, limiting must be a the key. Why people are having long streak ? Just because of, not having a proper limit. To have things within our control, we must plan everything well in advance and more importantly we must stick within our plan. If we do not stick with our plans, then having a limit has no meaning at all.
Executing your gambling plan is not at all as simple as it sounds. We need iron like heart to follow our own gambling plans, but while gambling people are known for making childish mistakes hen how we can expect them to keep their plans up. First they do collapse their plans and then finding it more frustrated due to unexpected loses.

Moreover, why should anyone get frustrated after losing money ? Most times, even casinos will tell you what you should know which is the fact that you should prepare your mind for losing as that is a reality when it comes to gambling. The funny thing is that a lot of gamblers do not always face this reality and that makes them extremely pathetic as they will always be the ones that end up bringing such to themselves eventually.
8386  Economy / Exchanges / Re: yobit or hitbtc on: July 26, 2018, 12:57:15 PM
I made a x5 on selfkey at the weekend and looking for other coins to invest in for medium term I think I may have found one but its not on the major exchanges so I need to create a new account with an exchange it has to be yobit or Hitbtc. Hitbtc looks like a nicer site but my main concern is scams and been able to withdraw btc if I make a profit  I have red bad things about yobit in this regard
what are peoples experience with them are they trust worthy and what are their fees like
That is one tough decision you are asking us to make since they are both shitty exchanges anyway.
If it is a matter of life and death in which I am asked to choose in between any of the two exchanges, I will still go for HitBTC than Yobit anyway.

Even in the midst of shitty exchanges, there is still always going to be a superior, but that does not mean you should be so relaxed because your funds security is not certain. In the past, I have worked with yobit for many exchanges but after listing out lots of shitty tokens, it seems they have turned too greedy or due to technical issues, they are not responding to tickets on time.
8387  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: SECRET OF TRADING on: July 26, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
if newcomers read these messages before entering the stock exchange, I am sure that the positive background would be much better. I studied on a Forex demo account and it gave me a lot of knowledge, cryptocurrency today gives more opportunities for learning and a softer school for this. Therefore, I suggest not to miss this opportunity to trade real money in the emerging market to gain more experience
If you are trading less volume market, you stand a chance of higher volatility which makes it a huge risk in my opinion. You can be making a good profit, but considering the risk, you would not want to be putting too much money or funds into such market. It is more like trading penny stocks, as they can easily get pumped and dumped pretty fast when compared to market with bigger volume.

Crypto trading does not require any special secrets to be unveiled. It is very much similar to all other trading and markets. We just need appropriate knowledge and experience. Just finding some time to dedicate only for crypto trading will make anyone as a successful crypto trader in matter of few weeks.
8388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Daily trading or Holding Cryptocurrency for long time on: July 26, 2018, 08:54:40 AM
Considering the present market situation, which one will be more benefiting whether Daily trading or holding cryptocurrency for long time? Please let me know.
depends on you, but i prefer buy and hold. actually the market is down for the Bancor hacking issue. so its good time to invest in altcoin and just hold those coin. I strongly believe after a few months crypto market volume would raised again and we can gain a lot of profit from our holding coin.
so i would tell you, buy and hold for a few months. you can gain a great from your holding.
Buying and holding at the dip anyway is still part of trading but at the same time, considering what you are buying and the chances of it going down further, you must be prepared for that which would be either trying to stop loss when some certain support is broken or just simply holding and buying back more at the dip.

Everyone sure does have what works perfectly well for them and that is what matters anyway as long as you have a strategy and you know what you are doing. Holding will definitely will pay more compared to day-trading. But rewards from held out assets might take more time to arrive in our pockets, that is the reason many people go for daily trading. But, we must understand that protecting our assets is more important than trying to multiply them.
8389  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Device Do you Trade on and Why ? on: July 26, 2018, 08:01:46 AM
Hello guys,
I would like to understand what is the safe and easiest Device to trade Cryptocurrencies for you.

 Desktop or Mobile ?

Thanks
Anyone is safe as long as you have the security of your account well implemented to at least give the hackers a very hard time for attempting to get into your account and by security; I am referring to a very strong password, making use of additional securities like 2FA or email login and so on.

Nevertheless, when it comes to exchanges, I am good with bittrex and binance for now and since I can make use of their APIs on tab trader, it has become an easy thing for me to trade on the go. Almost all the exchanges are good in terms of their secured measurements but we also need to implement for our accounts so that those measurements will get full swing to get us the actual meaning of them.
8390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to Google to have their own coin ? on: July 25, 2018, 03:30:11 PM
Being a technology evolution maker Google can create their own coin, and from my view if they come up with a plan to create their own coin it'll easy gain popularity and it will be found more secure as they have a long term experience with the technology related aspects. Also more investors can be found to invest into this particular coin in the short term.
Yes, they could have a payment method that is similar to coins but different than fiat. However a "coin" to be exact like the ones we have so far seems really out of place for google. We will need a lot bigger adaption by the global population before that happens. Google would not get into coin market that easily before everyone else does. I feel like this facebook coinbase thing would put google closer to it though.

If the possibility is the question, then it is possible for Google to have their own coin. The possibility that they lift the ban is also there.
When every John and Albert is able to create a new coin and tokens why not possible for the technology giant ? It is possible for everyone but the question is, will it be legal as per their territory norms. Probably when bitcoin becomes legal everywhere, these giants may think about having their own one.
8391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY on: July 25, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
Most ICO projects do fall a bit after the stock market, but it seems to me that the main reason is the greed of investors who want to get only profit and they do not care about the technology being created.
Yes, the investors would prefer to get the weak hands out of the market and dump pretty fast so as to be able to achieve that. In this kind of scenario, this is when a lot of bounty participants always get out of the market anyway, most especially for those who did not participate because they even knew anything about the project but because they just want the short term money to do whatever they feel like doing. Also, with the current state of the market, obviously nothing much should be expected than this. I am still holding many tokens patiently which were bought as well got rewarded from various bounties and expecting bitcoin prices to have better prices like $12k levels and above.
8392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Market can be manipulated? on: July 25, 2018, 11:46:07 AM
There is a possibility that the market can be manipulated since in this world all things is almost possible with money.
Influence, power and money is a huge matter that can make this thing happen.
This is not even about a possibility, but the fact that the market is manipulated. We are in the decentralized space and it makes it so easy for some group of people with huge hands to easily drive the market however they want it. We all know how speculative this market is and how that makes it very easy for the market to be easily manipulated. Artificially inflating price and suppressing the growth in value are some of the things that we obviously have seen already.

I think the whole market is spontaneous at the moment, so there is no price manipulation.
Because the whole encrypted money market has a huge amount of money, I think no one can manipulate the market.
But when you compare this crypto market with wall street or forex markets then this must be a very small one in terms of market cap. Hence manipulations are still very much possible here.
8393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Swiss banks to open up for Crypto Business on: July 25, 2018, 10:28:03 AM
That is good to know, so Switzerland wants to keep the crypto money at home as well, it will be great for overall crypto market and more countries will follow this by allowing crypto business however we should also keep in mind that crypto is basically borderless and decentralized and even restrictions do not have significant effect on them.
It is really good to know and I am happy we are at least seeing some development as regards to adoption in some countries with this news even with all the downtrend still persisting. I am sure as time goes on; every other country globally will start using these smart countries with visionary leaders as a case study when they start seeing the boom in their economy.

It is a very good announcement, the days we have all always been looking forward to right from the start of this journey is actually getting close. I am expecting Swiss government to legalize bitcoin following Japan. We are going to have moon-touching rally of bitcoins in coming days.
8394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cryptocurrency analytics (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Dash) on: July 25, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
I hate these chart readings. I mean people keep on reading charts on bitcoin like crazy and they share it and everyone talks about it, hell whole crypto world became a master at financial chart reading this past 6 months for some reason. Bitcoin doesn't care about your charts, learn this already, I have been around for over 5 years and charts never matter.

One big whale one big move, one big wave and all of a sudden anything can happen. Bitcoin can become 6k tomorrow or 10k, no one will be surprised for both of them. Learn that charts never matter when the majority of moves happens quickly with some trigger pulled by some people, stop caring about your charts and not read them.
8395  Economy / Speculation / Re: discuss the market? on: July 24, 2018, 06:36:55 PM
It is on a weird spot. Now we all now that bitcoin has two gears. Either it goes way up and surprises us, or it goes down really quickly as well. Now we are not in a place where it can go from 20k to 6k, there is not a room for that much drop. So thats good, it can go down to 4-5k at worst, which is still fine, however it can go over 20k which it once did, not easy task sure but it can still achieve it and who would be surprised? So the upside is better than the downside.
In the medium term, that is a move that may not quickly come before July ends, but who knows, it is the market anyway. So far, we are simply seeing more buying momentum than selling momentum which explains the rising enthusiasm we just got out from downwards within a very short period of time. For now, nothing is guaranteed yet as we are still in the beginning of rising market, but at least for short term, I may be expecting around $15k before seeing any serious move in either direction. In this market also, we all must need some plans to make ourselves prepared against surprises and frustrations. For that, this kind of discussions are helping a lot for me always.
8396  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do older people like investing in Gold/Silver? on: July 24, 2018, 04:53:28 PM
Because between us and they have gap about generation  Grin Grin Grin
In fact, older people always have a lot of worries and I do not think they are interested in investing in Crypto because they are afraid because Crypto is so new and it's like a virtual thing, they can not see it and can not handle it. In addition, Bitcoin have a huge risk and it is not valued by any model and fears that this is a psychological game.
I have met many old people and I told them about Bitcoin, as a result I was scolded for daring to believe what the internet said, oh my gods @@
In fact, the idea of trying to cope with the way technology is moving pretty fast is something huge for them which I believe their brain may not actually be ready to go through all those stress of trying to blend with the jet age.

This new age is moving very fast and I imagine how things are going to be when we also start becoming an older generation as well. It is normal, as they would rather want to stick with what they have believed in and has never failed them over the years. I believe it is just the truth that they feel more secured investing in what they have always believed in when it comes to store of value.

Like OP said, they are older generations, and we know how this age is evolving pretty fast which I want to assume will be so much for their brains to even start wrapping how things are done. Also, these are less risky investments, and no old generation will actually want to be taking unnecessary risks at their age anyway.
8397  Economy / Economics / Re: Predictions Markets? on: July 24, 2018, 01:02:12 PM
I myself don't believe im any predictions anymore. As for me, it us just follow or look into the changes based on chart. Listening to different predictions might just lead us to confusions or wrong decision making. We should have our own way of thinking.
I see no reason why anyone should believe in predictions in the first place since they should know better that no one can see the future. Trend is the only thing that makes a market and if trend tells you this is the way to go, then, go that way, otherwise, just stay clear off the market and watch how things unfold. A lot of people confuse themselves by listening to different predictions, but may I need remind them that those who are predicting are not some god and they cannot see the future.

For me my own prediction is to go up the market by this coming bear months.because that time when market will rise up that is the time to sell my bounty tokens.
Probably you got these markets right. It is time to hold and buy more. market is going to hit new high in coming weeks. This way, we get bitcoin prices doubled and then tripled from the current levels.
8398  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there manipulation of sharks ? on: July 24, 2018, 11:57:18 AM
We all wanted to believe that the peak price of Bitcoin is a normal event, but then again it is not. That huge spike is fluke and the correction after it is to be expected. I mean besides the spike, we had countries banning crytpo currencies at the same time so that really is a blow for the market. But if you do follow the trends you will see that by the next month we'll see a bull market.
Anyone who wants to believe that is actually going to believe that a baby grew up in just one night to a full blown adult.
This is a market, and for the fact that last year, nothing drove the price asides from speculation and whales manipulation to send the signals of emotion for investors and traders to keep getting greedy, it was not a normal event at all, but a fueled one and there we are seeing the result.

The funnies thing is that the same whales that manipulates it upward keep doing that downward and some just easily end up falling for it every single time.
8399  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's price is increasing again! on: July 24, 2018, 08:10:28 AM
Now many people are talking bitcoin's price will grow more.

What do you think about it?
That what bitcoin does. It stays down for a long time, it stays low low low low low and than BAM! price goes up in a jiffy. Next huge bubble will happen in less than a week. I mean it always was like that. Back in November price went to $20k so quickly, yet to drop it to $5800 dollar levels took over 6 months. Now it went up 1500-2000 dollars in less than a week. When it is going down it is going down slowly, when its going up its going up very quickly.

Although this is not the price increment that we are waiting for in which this is still very slow price movement increase compared to last year performance but still this is better than Bitcoin price is continue to fall down as we thought that it will reach as low as $5,000.
Yes, bitcoin once again proves its capability and as usual we are all going wrong. I believe this rally will continue till prices are reaching up to $10k levels. Like many other people here, I am also expecting a new all-time high prices within the year. But we need more confirmation for that to happen like bitcoin must sustain around $10k levels so that it can break that big psychological resistance then it will definitely move toward $15k and then $20k.
8400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just sold all my BTC because on: July 23, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
I believe selling your bitcoins for life expenses is the most valid reason one can have.
You can sell your bitcoin to pay your bills ( I do it all the time) get food (this one too) and generally pay your daily expenses if you are earning with bitcoin.

Not all people buy or sell bitcoin to make money, some people like me earn their living thanks to accepting bitcoin as their payments. I do not buy btc at all, I have never bought bitcoin in my entire life but probably made over 40 bitcoin in total (mostly when bitcoin was low priced of course) and I sold most of them because that is what I am going to live with.
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