Email just came through. There IS a presale:
- There will be a minimum required amount of 1 ETH to participate. This is the best way to democratize participation;
- There will be an individual cap of 100 ETH. We believe in the value of the PayPie platform and it’s in the best interest of all that tokens get spread out through a considerable base;
Actually most of the times, presales do for big investors and most of the little investors can't get near of it. This one is looking like for little and middle investors. So they should be sure of big demand. It's a risky way for pre-sale for the company but very good for little investors. Depends for who, for me 1 ETH is quite a lot to "gamble" but i get what you mean. Another good thing about pre sale is to test the waters for future investors. If some small investors wouldnt be sure if they should join ICO, now they will have some idea where this project is going. 100 ETH limit is great! for investors this is a good amount of money, this will create a favorable atmosphere on the exchangers! there will be no hard plums. as it happens if ICO don't have limit. perfect solution! More people can participate in PAYPIE ICO These limitations are only for the upcoming pre-sale, not the ICO. I dont understand anyway how they want to control the individual cap of 100 ETH. Wouldn't it be possible to send more than 100 ETH, just from a different address? I think it's quite easy to limit this with a smart contract |
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Sure the best ICO of 2017
Well there is quite the competition. It's clearly a very good ICO, but I think it's not the best one, some were quite impressive. It sure will have lots of competitor once this Ico is released in the public. Those who can deliver the best service and their best features will win. This project is amazing because of its innovative features. Well, I was not talking about the Utrust competitots but about others ICO which were big success. But it's sure that there will be some direct competition for Utrust. |
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Adults industry is worth billions of dollars ans we haven't seen blockchain applied to it yet. Eventually everything will be based on blockchain, projects like this one are precursors
The adult industry hasn't embraced cryptocurrencies yet, at most, some transactions are being made with BTC or ETH, but a service like webcams, date sites, sex services sites, hasn't been on the blockchain yet, but these kind of project are incurring, so it will be a matter of time before it all goes into blockchain  . Exactly. There are already some initiatives besides Live Stars, but frankly they seem very amateur compared to Live Stars. So far Live Stars checks all the major boxes, clear use of token, good team, good whitepaper, and demo of the product (they will do it at least, so still have to see about this one). I have seen adult entertainment icos before in here. But this is by far the most professionally planned and i haven't yet found any controversies from the whitepaper. Other sites will probably turn towards cryptocurrencies soon too. They are just afraid that it will turn customers away, when it actually attracts them in. Well, there was a lot about the adult industry, but seems like every ICO about this industry failed for the moment. Or do you know some that succeeded ? I would be interested in seeing a blockchain project in the adult industry that raised some big funds during an ICO. If that's not the case, there is some possibility that this one succeeds in my opinion. |
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Sure the best ICO of 2017
Well there is quite the competition. It's clearly a very good ICO, but I think it's not the best one, some were quite impressive. |
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Specify, you no longer use the concept of "gas", instead of it, what is another concept?
We have changed the terminology from Gas to Boton to avoid confusion but it still represent the same thing ie performance fees. Wow you were quite reactive on this one, good job  |
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now sure how I feel about pre-sales. on one hand a lower price is always welcome, on the other wouldn't it be just as well if that low price is used at the beginning of the ICO?
I think the idea behind the pre-sales is to jump start the public sale. The discount is there to sweeten the deal for the big investors, it lowers their risk. When the public sale starts with a nice amount of money already invested it is easier to convince smaller investors to put in some money too. It's funny to see how pre icos became a thing in the last months. Only reason for pre sales is to raise more money and to attract bigger investors. Real pre-sales are invite only and not open to the public. But this is how it seems to work now. Yes, I don't know if ICOs are a good thing. It does not surprise me that countries like China try to regulate this. |
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I can see this is a topic full of males getting excited about LiveStars Anyone getting hyped to see the beta? I am! Because more than 95% of the audience for these services are male.  But Yes, I am also eagerly waiting for beta for testing the platform and see what the models look like. If im honest, i doubt you will be able to see real models in beta. I would think they might pay some of them to join just for the presentation but theres nothing wrong with that, you need to invest something to kick start the platform. i am interested to see beta just to see how UI looks. also shows ability of their team work make be feel confident to invest. When will the beta be released ? I don't think I saw anything about that. A date was given ? It could be interesting to have one before the ICO so we can judge the platform. And I m sure it would attract a lot of inverstors seeing the sums that are spent on those websites. |
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With a small difference in bonuses (as here 25% and 20%), there really is a high probability that not all the whales have invested.
So even you should expect a lot of investment in REAL.
If we have a look at previous token sales. We always see a jump the last couple of days. I also suspect that REAL will have less whales, although only REAL knows how many very big investors have bought in. Anyway REAL is in my opinion a token to hold for the long term. They raised more than 36.000 eth. It can't just obtain from small investors. There were some whales in the beginning for sure. I share your thoughts, there must be some pretty big investors in this one too. |
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Two things to keep in mind:
- we've been in a bear market and are just going bullish again. Many projects that were trading below ICO price already start to recover.
- the presale was only open for select investors, the pre-ico had a very low cap and was sold out quickly. It's quite unlikely that most of these investors will flip their tokens.
So I wouldn't place by bets on being able to buy tokens below ICO price after they hit exchanges.
You can just wait for the ICO and watch if there's a lot of demand at all though, crypto moves fast. If UTRUST fails to reach the ICO target that quickly again, that's indicating lower demand, which means the prices might drop lower.
But tbh, a 10-30% difference for the ICO doesn't really matter anyway when we're talking about 1000-10000% profits over a span of 10+ years.
Quite interesting. I think too that we will have big ROI from this ICO. The project attracts quite some attention |
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see their beta that's awesome. dev will publish soon so ur guys should be confident when invest on this project Where did you see it? can a link be posted please.... Im getting too hyped to wait longer. Want to see the bot in action! I also would like to take a look at the prototype in action, I wonder how everything will work, test any strategy, if you have this - share it ! Does beta has been released already.? Didnt even see that on their social media or here.? Some team member should clarify this. They said they will release it soon so dont worry, im sure they will post it immediately when it will be ready for public. Where did you see that a beta would be soon released ? |
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Any news on the pre sale guys?
Presale and Pre-ICO are already sold out. Now, there will be just the ICO. Sold out? Where you find this info??? pre-sale still no announsed! And i didnt hear any date of pre-sale. Did I miss something ? I know we were talking of presale at one point but I thought we were sure of nothing. |
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With the development of the project, large coins such as the ethereum and Neo will be traded first and the list will expand further.
I don't really understand what you mean, can you develop a little more please ? |
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I think the price is too high, 0.0011eth means 11eth = 10000token.
But the team made too much token now.
I don't think it has so much of an impact on ICOs. What's important is the circulating supply. The price doesn't matter much, the circulating supply is what will give the price once it stabilizes, the ICO will have its participants when it finishes, this will increase its value over time, so don't worry, even if you think the price is high, all investors will be in the same boat. This is accounting credit score meets smart contrats, price will go way way up over time, ICO price is tiny compared to where I see PayPie in a couple of years You are right, if PayPie can put into practice what they are planing with their platform, the price of the tokens will most likely go up. I hope for PaiPie that a lot of companies like the idea of triple entry accounting and don't see it as an hindrance. |
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Well every project which succeed attract some people trying to spread some fud.
Well, i don't want to bash other projects, but if you have been watching Monetha announcement, you'll understand why they are angry at the new competition. I took a look quickly, what's the problem ? That the current price is under the ICO price ? Usually this is because of bounty hunters, they got monetha for free, then they just dump the price, sometimes I wish there are not bounties at all, but they are important for the marketing XD, or perhaps they should distribute the tokens 1 month after they distributed to investors, that will prevent dumping at the beginning, but that is just me, the other option I saw some other projects, is to pay with eth or BTC to the bounty program, so the token itself is not affected , Dimcoin did this with their facebook and twitter campaign. Well, I don't know if Utrust bounties were big or not. I hope there is a big trust in the project and there will be no dump. |
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Well every project which succeed attract some people trying to spread some fud.
Well, i don't want to bash other projects, but if you have been watching Monetha announcement, you'll understand why they are angry at the new competition. I took a look quickly, what's the problem ? That the current price is under the ICO price ? |
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I agree, that the kind of project than can interest non-initiate who do not want to spend hours reading information about crypto but want to make some good investments.
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I think the price is too high, 0.0011eth means 11eth = 10000token.
But the team made too much token now.
I don't think it has so much of an impact on ICOs. What's important is the circulating supply. |
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Everywhere you guys talked about models and the percentage they get but, nowhere it's mentioned what customers will get that they are not on other platforms except that it's on blockchain which many of them don't care about.
The customers should be the first priority.
Not my opinion. First should be the models. If it´s good for them, there will be a lot of models and every customer want a page with a big selection. definetly right! compare it with regular porn websites there are thousands.. and for example everybody knows pornhub. why? its not because they have a USP but they have a huge offer. lets applicate this thoughts on livestars. if livestars had the uberfeature for customers but there is just a lack of models - who would care about this website - nobody. its important to get the models online - the customers will follow up In this business the demand will always be higher than supply so i agree with you but his question is not that out of topic. There are a lot of sites like this out there and the competition is huge. So they cant ignore the fact that they will have to attract users also, especially when they start from zero. Competition is high but live starts will have much higher salaries for models so they will have nice incentive to choose this platform. There will be implemented exchange for tokens that will make converting them into fiat currencies much easier It would have been cool to have a product. If the website is easy to use and have a lot of contents, it's sur that a lot of people will use it. But if the quality is poor and the website not user friendly with just a few functionnalities, it's sure that it will no attract people. An alpha or even more screenshots of the version in development would have been good. |
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In fact, it's quite more sure to invest in this project, since there is low chances to have a negative ROI in comparison to other projects related only to the "digital world" and not "the real one".
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Well every project which succeed attract some people trying to spread some fud.
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