How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins. <opted to not change the glow from red to yellow>Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide. When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions). Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead. Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone. Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide. I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses. You've heard of suicide-by-cop, so is this the first suicide-by-Romans (or is it suicide-by-Jews, for I'm not that versed on the verses?)? Dear lord. I'm not a Christian, but grew up around many and I respect their beliefs - all religions. This Priest character is a character. I'm not sure what Jesus' sacrificial death has to do with suicide, anybody? And I thought Christians believe that suicide is a sin that will cast their ass straight to hell? You're actually promoting that people attempt suicide? Jesus Christ. Thank God I'm on Priest's ignore list... lest I might have to read an even more ignorant response to this. |
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What you should be wagering here is bonus and not bonus + deposited amount.
Nope, that's actually correct for most casinos. Maybe you would be surprised but most of the fiat online casinos have 0% wagering set on table games. And its quite normal.
No comment, I only play slots for the most part. Mostly the wagering of the bonus is only possible with slots and its 100%. House edges on the slots are 2-4%. Also you would be surprised that people do manage to clear (complete wagering requirements) for their bonuses even with that in your opinion high house edge - its true many dont but still the % is higher than 10. I guess this has to do with the fact that the odds are truly in casino favour but on the other hands big wins happen as well. So then we are talking about the volatility of slot and payout distribution.
I've managed to clear the wagering requirements at casinos before, but it's a challenge and I'm only successful (now) maybe about 10% of the time. Last year when I'd drop 10BTC in a casino, it was easy... almost impossible if you deposit below a certain threshold. If you really think most casinos' slots only have an house edge of 2-4%, please direct me to them; I'm tired of what's available now. Here's what my game play is like now for the most part: I entertain myself with the slots, so can't speak on other games. But not that I'm complaining about losing .15 bitcoins, I'll make a statement that I'll elaborate on later because it applies not just to you, but to many casinos using similar software. Your slots 'appear' to pay more than the usual. Except out of about 15 wins, only 1 results in a payout higher than the initial bet. Not in particular sustainable from a player's point of view. Without a 'big' or a 'mega' win, the chances of walking away with something in your pocket is slim. Here's just a quick run down of my game play (but I don't have to tell you as you can check the logs): betting the min of 30 chips... first .1 bitcoin wagered - only five wins resulted in payout higher than 30 chips (.63, 1.53 [big win], .7, .43 with a bonus round that netted me .05) second .1 bitcoin wagered got better - 10 wins resulted in payout higher than 30 chips, with 3 big wins of .93, 2.06, and 1.05. It wasn't until the reserves started to get low did the slots decide it's warmed up enough; I got 3 mega wins (one 12.11 at the very last minute to keep me in the game). Even so, it was still just an average of 1 win every 10-15 wins that resulted in payout larger than initial bet. Is this fair? On the surface these types of slots payout more frequently than others, sure. But the reality is they don't because those frequent wins are so small they count for nothing (average credits won I'd say was less than 10). But I do like the games and the fact you can choose not to accept the bonus. I also like how the rollover requirements are there from the beginning so you know what to expect. I've only played here once, so really can't give a detailed review... just thought I'd make mention of my observation, which I'll expand later accusing others  So this just doesn't imply to you, but to most of the fancier joints I've played. |
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Regarding the rigged casinos it was a question actually. Regarding bonuses I don't see anything wrong for a casino having 40-50 times wagering requirement. In the end its up to the player if he wants to go that route or not. As mentioned you should be always able to cancel the bonus and keep your money shall you change your mind after depositing. Also I agree that many casinos are trying to be evil by tricking players into wrong decision by giving players too little info and then claiming afterwards that it was written in the small print. But luckily people are not stupid and this kind of techniques are short lived on the long run to keep up the reputable brand.
I think a good question is also how many Bitcoin casinos actually know how to provide good service to their customers. - Live support, how about responsible gaming where people actually can look for organisations that are providing help to addition with gambling or maybe having a nice user friendly FAQ.
Oh, I thought you were onto something lol But yes, it's just unfortunate what we have to experience just to find a place that won't cheat - this is coming from my experience. And I agree with you 100%... customer service isn't top priority, making money is. I wouldn't doubt when the well runs dry, flaky casino owners just go out and open up another. With the coins I've lost this year in casinos alone, I could open my own... seriously. Hell, I should do that. |
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What's interesting is not the money, but the fact my email address i used has been spammed by 2 dozen online casinos ever since. I can do nothing to get myself off these lists.
Holy shit... This is happening to me now and I have no clue who the damn culprit is. Usually I give out my luckycris email... but I've signed up with a few sites recently using my real address, and like an idiot used my outlook client to send correspondence to tech support. Jesus. I may never know who sold my address. |
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Provably fair casinos would go bankrupt if they would offer a bonus without some sort of exorbitant rollover requirement. Reason so, they are FAIR which is the keyword here. Companies that offer 200% cash bonuses for casino games clearly run a rigged house and should be avoided. Just take a look at the threads here this week, it's pretty clear who offers honest games and who does not.
I am sorry but I am not sure I understand your logic here quite well. Bonuses and free spins have been one of the biggest standard promotions in classic gambling industry. Why exactly you believe that in provable casinos it is different? Because all the big slot producers (NETENT, IGT, PT, WMS) are rigged?Is that a fact? I don't doubt it, but guess I'll go consult Google. But I do agree with aksplace to an extent; casino's would go broke without a rollover requirement, they admit this - everyone would take the bonus and run. And think about it... if a casino offers an enormous bonus to every player and their games are really truly fair (whatever the hell this means, I don't even know anymore), what would that tell you about their bottom line? If their casino really has a 90+% payout as they claim, they're paying users for providing the entertainment! But even so, very few players actually meet the rollover requirement anyway. Bonuses attract players no doubt, it's all the baggage that comes along with it that's questionable. |
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I dislike them all because they all provably take your money  They sure as hell do - one scheme after another. I make quite a big stink about it on their thread too. Matter of fact, I need to hit bitcoinvideocasion's thread up again. Damn slot machine discriminated against my larger bets and refused to hit any lines. But at least when it finally decides to pay, it pays. Unlike most of slot software out now. Sure, you'll hit something every few spins, but out of those, only about 1 out of 10 pays you higher than your initial bet. It's pretty shocking when a slot throws confetti at you and flash 'Big Win' in your face when you've only won .7 credits on a .3 game. OMG, the list just goes on and on. I should compile all this in one reference thread. |
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While daydreaming on the job, I was thinking about why I had gone to such great lengths to impress girls in college. One of my more memorable accounts was when I was a freshman. I had this girl in my intro to bio class, her name was Stacy. Stacy had a giant rack and a really nice bottom. The kind that makes you do a double take if she were to bike past you. I was really into Stacy but we weren't really going anywhere with me being stuck in the friend zone. I had her facebook, so I began cyber stalking her profile. Everywhere she went, every picture she took--I had a vicarious memory of. I'd imagine I was there with her and feel happy for a moment in time.
So anyway, while I was creeping her to the max I jogged down what she liked to do, her favorite bands, restaurants, etc. I thought that the more things we had in common the better the chances of me popping the "date" question. Needless to say she felt kinda uncomfortable that I was mentioning all her favorite things all the time and we eventually stopped talking altogether. Freshman desperation, don't do it.
lol, at least you're able to admit you stalked! I can't count the number of times I caught ran into my guy friends on my turf, and a couple of times in my rear view mirror! You guys are worst than a woman... at least we're slick with our shit  |
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The government doesn't WANT people in jails. They want as little people in jails as possible.
They're not going to do that, when they know they definitely were not conspiring to aid drug trade at any level.
You meant to say the government doesn't want PARTICULAR types of people in jails, right?  It's not hard to pass a law or interpret an existing law to make it fit the targeted demographic - if they wanted to. Take for the example the rich kid suffering from affluenza who killed 4 people and paralyzed another, DUI mind you - sentence: no contact with his parents (because they spoiled him) for a year or so and 10 years probation. If an average Joe did this, what would be the consequence? Of course we all know the variance is even greater if the variable is race so need to even go there. Surely you know how profitable the prison system is? |
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Our games are provably fair. No, they are not.. You just described provable results the most common used scam instrument on self proclaimed provably fair casino sites here is proof of such: http://v20.nl/primedice/ I will explain to you why which is obvious next. Provably Fair:1: players txid or any other input the casino has no control over including a daily site secret. 2: any site that shows you a hash of the site seed used for the next round and allows for users to provide their own seed Provable Results:1: shows you a hash of the site seed used for the next round and does not allow users to provide their own seed. The difference is monumental: Operator can generate a huge sample of site seeds and client seeds and then cherry pick the results they want. There really is no actual fact or proof of randomness just proof of result. WOW, where/how did you find that site??? I want to add it to my signature |
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And regarding the slots - our slots are far more sophisticated, they offer many features such as expanding wilds, exploding lines (coming soon) and powerups, that a simple match between a number and a symbol cannot work.
Also, that gives no indication of the actual payout of the slot, so what if the results can be deterministically calculated from a hash. The return to player can still be anything - 30%, 50%, 80% or 97% or whatever. I think our winners speak for themselves.
With regards to the wagering, the player is given the choice of removing the bonus prior to playing with it and thus not having to meet the requirements.
I entertain myself with the slots, so can't speak on other games. But not that I'm complaining about losing .15 bitcoins, I'll make a statement that I'll elaborate on later because it applies not just to you, but to many casinos using similar software. Your slots 'appear' to pay more than the usual. Except out of about 15 wins, only 1 results in a payout higher than the initial bet. Not in particular sustainable from a player's point of view. Without a 'big' or a 'mega' win, the chances of walking away with something in your pocket is slim. Here's just a quick run down of my game play (but I don't have to tell you as you can check the logs): betting the min of 30 chips... first .1 bitcoin wagered - only five wins resulted in payout higher than 30 chips (.63, 1.53 [big win], .7, .43 with a bonus round that netted me .05) second .1 bitcoin wagered got better - 10 wins resulted in payout higher than 30 chips, with 3 big wins of .93, 2.06, and 1.05. It wasn't until the reserves started to get low did the slots decide it's warmed up enough; I got 3 mega wins (one 12.11 at the very last minute to keep me in the game). Even so, it was still just an average of 1 win every 10-15 wins that resulted in payout larger than initial bet. Is this fair? On the surface these types of slots payout more frequently than others, sure. But the reality is they don't because those frequent wins are so small they count for nothing (average credits won I'd say was less than 10). But I do like the games and the fact you can choose not to accept the bonus. I also like how the rollover requirements are there from the beginning so you know what to expect. I've only played here once, so really can't give a detailed review... just thought I'd make mention of my observation, which I'll expand later accusing others So this just doesn't imply to you, but to most of the fancier joints I've played. |
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If he made 80 BTC day trading I feel no sympathy for the OP,
day trading is against the ideals of BTC, and his 80 BTC loss was karma taking back what's hers.
EDIT: I would feel no sympathy/sadness/empathy for any individual who chose suicide due to monetary/greed reasons.
I have seen/given money to homeless people who seemed happy.
A person can survive with a lot less than people think.
Do you have no heart man? No heart at all? I was in line the other day at In-N-Out getting myself a delicious burger. I was waiting 14 cars deep. I was there 45 minutes in the line. I was bored and tired and not hungry after all of that. But I knew my wife would still want a burger so I proceeded to wait. When I pulled up to the window I asked how much and they said it was free! So ... why? Why free? They said the person in front of me paid for my bill. WOW. It was a revelation moment that there is some little bit of good in the world. So I paid it forward by paying the persons bill in the car behind me. I hope it kept going after that. Talk about awesome! Next time youre in line someplace... just f**king randomly pay for the person behind you. See how the world reacts. Thing about positive thoughts always. If you are not into paying the guy behind you.... do it with a $10 dollar bill. Hold it in your hands, think about the world and the universe and ask the universe how you can help out with that little $10. Think about it all day. The universe will answer back to you, I promise. It might be an old lady without a home needing a meal, or a man on the side of the road who needs $10 for gasoline, or even a woman who gives kisses for $10. Ha! It could be anything, but it will be something and you will feel connected to everyone including me and Chris and Gareth and Dev. Thanks. My ill feelings toward the heartless is gone after reading this. Sometimes I forget there's no end without a beginning, no bad without good, no rich without the poor. Equilibrium. |
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So uninformed. Here: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm If you'd like, I can pull a few scholarly articles but I have the sense that you wouldn't have the sense to understand it. I'm sure wikipedia has this info too. Please STFU with your nonsense opinions bully. From your own article Most people who commit suicide don't want to die—they just want to stop hurting. He never really wanted death. He is just being a whiny little b. Everybody has a lot of hardship, OP needs to just deal with it. Lastly I'm ignoring you, I resent being called a bully. Of course most don't WANT to commit suicide idiot, they just feel as if it's the only way out, relief. Like I said, you wouldn't comprehend, no surprise. And please ignore me. Hopefully I won't have to endure reading the trash that you put out. LOOK everyone!!! I'm being ignored by someone who can't take what they dish out! Boo hoo! A bully who feels he has the need to put people down when they're already feeling down. You know 7Priest7... this says a lot about your character. |
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You could also talk to one of the escrowers on here before you engage in a transaction. If you don't have anyone already lined up, talk with tomatocage, he seems reliable and responded to my PMs within a few hours iirc. Sounds like you've already got someone lined up for the PSUs, but in case that falls through, how much would you charge for shipping to North Carolina?
I'll def reach out to a trusted member for escrow! You're paying for it, so however you want me to send (expedite, snail) is your choice. It'll be coming from your sister state, SC. I'll PM you my zip so you can get a more accurate estimate if you'd like. |
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Prices?
I realized shortly after posting they weren't listed... but they're there now These are the prices I paid, and I'm willing to show proof I'm not trying to make a dollar. 239USD for the cards 40USD for PSUs 25USD for memory Just for clarity, those are the prices for each of the items listed? Also, are those PSU's 120V/240V? edit: For the escrow, ship with a tracking number, then you have proof that the item was delivered to the agreed upon address Yes, each as in 239 each I will ship with tracking, but is that proof enough? On the sticky in this thread someone posed the same question and it was never answered... I'm about to post pics of the PSUs as requested by a PMer, standby one sec... |
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I do not see any game on Bitoomba that allows a player to provide their own seed. With that being said at best you folks should be claiming Provable Results and not Provably Fair as they are two different animals.
Great point! |
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The terms, from https://www.bitoomba.com/terms/4.1 in order to cash out any amount of money you must wager your bonus plus deposit at least 12 times per bonus
4.2 all Deposit Bonuses are issued only for wagering purposes. Bonuses will be automatically removed from players’ accounts after a withdrawal request.
4.4. When receiving a bonus, the player will first play with the money deposited in the casino account, and only then will the player play with the bonus offered by the casino.
So, no, there is no bonus actually. Instead, any deposit you make is held hostage until you lose it all... We need this poster back and active in the forums soon as possible. I read this as well but it didn't strike me as a surprise like another casino's T&C. My understanding of this section is... I deposit 10 dollars, get a 10 dollar bonus for a total of 20 in my account. In order to withdraw, I'd have to wager 12x 20 (total of bonus/deposit), which is 240. Which is actually attainable. Most requirements are much higher! But once I reach that 240 threshold, I'd be able to withdraw. However, in the event I attempt to withdraw before wagering the 12x rollover requirement, the bonus won't be granted. So let's say I only wagered 200 but have 5 bucks left. Requirement wasn't met so withdraw won't be granted because I spent my 10 dollars first and that 5 is the bonus. I guess it's a good thing you can opt out of the bonus because if you don't meet the requirements, you won't withdraw if you haven't wagered past your initial deposit. But it's all interpretation at this point until someone provides actual experience. |
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Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP.
That is nonsense, people who commit suicide rarely tell others they are going to.Telling others you are going to commit suicide before doing it, is like calling the bank and letting em know you are coming to rob them. Saying "I'm going to commit suicide." is the same as "Please give me attention, I feel my life is somehow bad." If he made 80 BTC day trading I feel no sympathy for the OP, day trading is against the ideals of BTC, and his 80 BTC loss was karma taking back what's hers. So uninformed. Here: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm If you'd like, I can pull a few scholarly articles but I have the sense that you wouldn't have the sense to understand it. I'm sure wikipedia has this info too. Please STFU with your nonsense opinions bully. |
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man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.
Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych. Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event). The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person. Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking. You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself. Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not. You're right, perhaps. I was one of the first to respond and advised OP to seek help away from this forum. It didn't dawn on me that this could've been the warning before the bang. I usually don't miss much, but it was 4am. Even so, there's no way we could predict the outcome. What if we got the mods involved (they probably wouldn't anyways) in this situation, send LE to his home (or place of work), when all he was feeling was a little down and wanted to spark conversation? LE's doing an incident report (he'd never know), but this reference would follow him forever. Most of the responders tried to offer reassuring words of encouragement; and for most, that's as far as it goes... it is the internet after all. What I found sickening were all the people who automatically thought this was a scam or tried to bully him into moving forward with it. Yet another reason why we heart the bitcoin community. I can't say either way whether this poster is scamming or not. But what if he isn't. Our concern as a community shouldn't be that he'll have an "incident report" to follow him around. Our primary concern should be that someone went to his door and asked if he was okay and wanted to speak in person. The "incident report" actually WOULD NOT follow him around, since he's not committing any crime. In NYC, the "incident report" is known as an "Aided Card". One would be prepared if you fell and broke your arm on the sidewalk or as in the case of the OP, if you had suicidal thoughts. He's not committing any crime and therefore would not be treated, categorized or reported as a criminal. And the Aided Card is not public information, yes like most other documents that the government possesses it can be FOIL-ed, but you'd have to already know that the incident took place and you'd have to have some really specific information (name, dob, address, etc) to even attempt to obtain a copy of it. And if you already knew that why would you FOIL it. Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP. No need to apologize... it's still informative nonetheless It's no one concern that OP would have a report (no matter what it's called) follow him around, it was an attempt to show you that sometimes the right thing to do isn't always the right thing to do in some cases. Just because a report was written about you doesn't make you a criminal. There's no crime in thinking or attempting to take your life, but it is a crime (literally) against society if you succeed. For further thought, not necessarily discussion.... Should we begin making inquiries like this when we see these types of comments pasted on boards on the internet? Would about the youtube comments, or CNN? At what point do you use better judgement to determine whether someone is serious or not? Actually I'm not sure I had to go there because it's pretty evident that's something most in this community lack. And about the report following one around... they do. I take it you've never had a serious inquiry into your background before - believe me, they find everything! Not that it's a real baddie... but what if he didn't want 'they' to know he engages in bitcoin activities? Again, I actually agree with your position, just trying to give a different perspective is all. OP, so sorry for high jacking your thread. But at least you know there are those of us who care |
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How can I have my password reset? I keep forgetting them plus I play from my iDevice at times so I'm sure I have about 25 accounts. But I want my first account back, the one that's attached to my name. Is this possible? Thanks!
Sure, I can look into resetting your password. Do you mind sending me a quick note at admin@bitcoinvideocasino.com with your account details? Thanks. email on the way! Thanks! |
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