Bitcoin Forum
May 25, 2024, 09:09:26 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 [43] 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 »
841  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Opening predictions on: June 26, 2011, 04:28:58 PM
What we need is for the price to go back somewhat in line with difficulty level

Only if the community wants payments to keep processing in the network.

Speculators and regular people couldn't care less about the difficulty of generating blocks and the expenses involved.
They just want bitcoins.

If they panic or refuse to buy at a certain price point then the price wont go up, simple as that.
842  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 2 same 5970 card, 20degree difference, what the? on: June 26, 2011, 02:23:05 PM
Same thing happens with my 6990's.

I can even overclock the second core to about 900mhz and it still stays pretty cool.

The primary core gets up to 85-92c even at stock frequency, and is always 10-12c hotter than the other core no matter what I do (even 100% fan speed, no other cards attached, etc.)
843  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 0400hrs GMT - Odd Time To Start Trading @ MT Gox on: June 26, 2011, 02:14:41 PM
isn't Satoshi Japanese as well?  Cheesy
This is actually unlikely, it is more probable that he is European due to a very good knowledge of the English language, the usage of British English spellings, and a couple other things I can't recall at the moment but a Google would probably get you there.

That doesn't mean anything. There are millions of A+ Chinese students who write perfect British English online. I've done business & talked with plenty of them on forums. Their word usage, grammar and spelling is top notch.

You could never tell they are Chinese unless they used nicknames indicating their place of origin.

I don't see how that's any different for Japan or any other country. English is my 3rd language but I'm 100% fluent in it, maybe more so than in my native language which I've already forgotten partially.
844  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reporting Mt. Gox to the Japan Financial Services Agency on: June 26, 2011, 02:04:50 PM
that won't do shit..
for all you know it could be some teenager running the MtGox server out of his mother's basement... or two 20yr olds running MtGox out of their garage (although not likely in Japan).

For all you know, you could just go to Google Maps. Or you could call Cerulean Tower and ask the receptionist if there's a company called Tibanne Co, Ltd. operating in the building.

It just so happens, it's in Shibuya, the most expensive district of Tokyo beside Shinjuku.

Even the owner's name is public. So no, it's not "two 20 year olds running MtGox out of their garage".
845  Economy / Economics / Re: How is "Volume" calculated on the bitcoin exchanges? on: June 26, 2011, 01:48:57 PM
Ahh good to know. I thought it was reset at 0:00 GMT.

If you follow bitcoincharts.com then the daily volume (and open/close) resets at precisely 01:00 GMT +0.
All coins traded between then and the next 24 hours are the daily 'volume'.
846  Economy / Economics / Re: Why btc/usd not rise since difficulty update? on: June 26, 2011, 01:44:20 PM
Anywhay, shold we wat for a rise soon looking back at these events?

Maybe in a few months, but not in the recent future.

Even before the crash on Mt. Gox, there were a ton of dimwits panicking and selling a massive amount of BTC even at $10 just because it notched down a dollar during the weekend
(check the price history if you don't believe me).

I.e. hysterical speculators with tons of bitcoins who made idiotic market moves by getting rid of their BTC holdings at any price possible.

How do you educate inexperienced beginners about market fluctuations? You don't. People have to learn it themselves.
Speculators will finally understand that bitcoin is not going to crash or skyrocket just because the value moves $0.5 up or down during the course of a normal day.
847  Economy / Economics / Re: What is holding you from investing tons of money in this? on: June 26, 2011, 01:37:03 PM
1. Bank-driven legislation.  Everyone else on here feels comfortable being a criminal.  Whether BTC would survive while illegal is one question, and I think it would survive.  Whether I'm willing to risk my reputation, freedom, etc., to use it while illegal is another.  If BTC use and exchange is illegal, I'm out, and I'm guessing others like me are too.

Are you sure you don't work for the communist party of China?

It's illegal to access Facebok, Youtube, Twitter, IMDb and Wikileaks. Really, you can go to prison for attempting to proxy your way into these sites.

Maybe they will also add Bitcoin to the list.
Doesn't mean anything is wrong with those services; Nor that the majority of the world will stop using them even if some board of fat old men in suits decides they are a 'turmoil to the people'.

I'm not an anarchist by any means. Probably right-wing if anything. I just don't see why BTC being made illegal somewhere would make it's use condemnable.

Online poker is banned in the USA because they hate losing tax revenue;
Doesn't mean it's not being played 24/7 in all the other countries of the world. Doesn't mean americans now condemn online poker as a game.
848  Economy / Economics / Re: Why btc/usd not rise since difficulty update? on: June 26, 2011, 01:24:52 PM
i am just saying: NOOB!

Are you a really little kid? Just saying

Anyways, to OP: Price is not dictated by difficulty but by demand.

While in the past price has risen in a linear curve with difficulty, apparently a ton of old miners have loaded off their early bitcoins onto the market & keep the price low.

Speculators don't care about difficulty of mining. They only care about how many BTC are out there on the open market. And there seem to be plenty even if current miners didn't sell anything for a month.

Convince more people to use bitcoins & drive up demand, or convince old holders not to sell their coins at bargains like they did in mass at $4/btc a month or few back.

Either way works but both are pretty hard to accomplish.
849  Economy / Economics / Re: Expected return of bitcoin invested in mining on: June 26, 2011, 01:18:25 PM
Ok, for the sake of theoretical argument, lets hold BTC/USD at 15. Say the difficulty stays where it is right now. Once we get a number, we can adjust it for these variables.

We can't because difficulty changes every 14 days at 6 blocks/hour, or about every 5-9 days at 7-12 blocks per hour as it has recently.

Difficulty wont stay at 1,3 million just as it didn't stay at 877k.
It will rise to about 3-5 million by the end of next month which means any calculations made at current difficulty are completely useless.

You can't calculate future earnings based on 1,3M difficulty when it's only going to last about a week before going up again (and likely double within 20-30 days).

If BTC price really does stay at $15/btc then a miner buying a full rig today will likely never pay it off. He's missed the train by a long shot.
His only hope is holding onto what little he can get out of his rig & wait for price appreciation.
850  Economy / Economics / Re: How to cause a crash..?? on: June 26, 2011, 01:13:41 PM
Remember that bitcoin crash a few weeks ago; one of my buddies was part responsible for that.  We did it with those Linden dollars from that game a while back."

Now here's the bigger kicker.  The guy who I was talking to is exceedingly smart, like genius level smart, and I believe him 100%

This same story is repeated on various forums, in various scenarios and situations, it's always 100% bullshit.

Always some spotty teen claiming "he" caused a market crash, hacked the servers or created a tornado. His lapdog friend running to forums like a faithful little brother & repeating everything he said with enthusiastic vapidness.

The crash was caused by one Mt. Gox account being compromised, and not your friend dumping a bunch of Linden dollars from Second Life.
That account was used to fill all open buy orders which means some were sold even at a token 0.01BTC price. He then attempted to cash out a ton of BTC but the $1,000 limitation kicked in.
851  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What is a normal stale share rate? on: June 26, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
I'm also seeing a strong correlation between the quality of hardware and rate of stales.

I.e., the faster the card is, the less stales it gets. One of my 6990's has 0.11% stales on 1 core and 0,23% on the other.

Then there's 5770's and  5830's with 2% stales.
852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shouldn't bitcoins be square? on: June 26, 2011, 11:06:55 AM
Although stocks usually go down right after I buy them, like when I lost my entire portfolio of $2500 in eight days last year, this is a little more like a lightning strike from Hermes.

What stocks did you buy that went to zero value in 8 days? Definitely not any on the S&P 500, NYSE or NASDAQ
853  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 400MH/s+ on a 5850? on: June 26, 2011, 01:55:11 AM
Quote
Ill still be doing this if the difficulty hits 500 miilion. Im not in it for money

Can't compete with that

Then again, it does make the network more secure. If everyone just quits mining the network becomes susceptible to forging attacks
854  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining to hold or sell? on: June 26, 2011, 01:27:45 AM
I am mining until I can get at least 10 Bitcoins together (which seems like it will take months). I will turn it into USD as quickly as possible, and of course, repeat the process.

The only problem being; Repeating the process months down the road will take 5-10 times longer than it did the first time around.
This strategy seems pretty obsolete, the only thing that makes sense for small miners is to wait for the price to climb up substantially.

If you just sell everything you earn at current spot rate (maybe 0.20btc per day for a small miner)
your income will just keep getting lower & lower until you can't generate anything & have no BTC left,
so all you have is your hardware, no bitcoins, and no chances of generating any bitcoins.
855  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Anti solo mining myths debunked on: June 26, 2011, 01:24:28 AM
Again, I didn't claim that pools are considerably worse, they just don't have better returns on average.

Pools generate 100% guaranteed daily income, esp. if you opt in for a PPS scheme.

You are guaranteed nothing while solo mining and might not even find a block at all at 1-3m difficulty using a single gpu
856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Attn: People who buy stuff with bitcoins on: June 26, 2011, 01:20:40 AM
What is a 15 dollar bitcoin and where do you get them?
857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I'm Wary to Invest (Change my mind and I'll give you 1 BTC) on: June 26, 2011, 01:18:58 AM
Deflation due to limited supply.

Send to slush
858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Game Server Plugin on: June 26, 2011, 01:15:43 AM
As said above it's not worth it with an embedded CPU miner.
Even if you set affinity to about 5%, a dozen players would create less than 1 bitcent per day.

There's also the chance of players with weaker processors joining that will definitely notice the increased workload & their game will start lagging.
859  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shouldn't bitcoins be square? on: June 26, 2011, 01:09:32 AM
There is no denying that it's hip to be square.
860  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: FOR SALE: PCIe x1 & x16 Extender Cables, Mining Chassis & GPU Dummy Plugs on: June 26, 2011, 12:56:51 AM
Hey.

Would you PM me a bitcoin address for order 329. It said the server was temporarily down during checkout about 5 mins ago. Thanks.
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 [43] 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!