Shojayxt (and Bobsurplus) have been extremely detrimental to DRK and crypto in general. Although he does offer some valid points of view and things to consider, he is now running the classic "Yes, so I said those things, people change, people alter their views. Now can we just get back to the important stuff, discussing DRK?" then weaves this "holier than thou" ethos throughout his postings in an attempt to shame people who're determined not to let the memory of his destructiveness die.
What is this? I never heard of Shojayxt and Bobsurplus before. Who are these people? Why talk about them? A couple of extreme trolls that have hung around this thread pedalling much FUD at DRK's expense. Here's one of shojayxt's milder previous postings (not to mention he was caught out FUDding via a sock puppet account too): Ha ha, I'd rather be a dick head than a dick sucker like you.
I was here early. I sold some coins early but bought back in low and sold at the top. I just dumped the last of my DRK the other day because I can't stand the stench of this coin. I will admit that I am mining on one of the pools that isn't taxing me 20%. I'll sell whatever I mine and feel good about not paying the 20% tax.
But feel free to believe whatever fairy tale you want. You believe in the Darkcoin fairy tale about overtaking bitcoin, going to $300 a coin etc... so why wouldn't you believe the fairy tale that you posted about me.
You have the early supporter part right. But after observing what has been going on I can't support this instamined scam any longer.
Yes I used the words INSTAMINED and SCAM.
And here's an atypical posting from Bobsurplus (who, unlike shojayxt only sticks his unwanted head in here occasionally now): I make big btc off shitcoins daily... I make bigger btc off legit coins.... That's why I'll only make a bit on this shitcoin you guys call darkcoin.. But money is money and I'm in till I make it....
|
|
|
|
How about instead of all this bullshit about users posts on here, we keep this on topic about Darkcoin and its features. This isn't middle school.
I would love it if this could happen. After a long day at work, I'm sure I'm not the only one who don't feel like wading through pages of posts of insults about pages of FUD that I had to wade through in the past (probably after a long day at work). I'm sorry to add yet another posting on this but it's very important the collective memory of what manipulative and destructive people like shojayxt do. One of the reasons "history repeats" in human affairs is because people forgive AND forget. There's nothing wrong with forgiving (and if more of it was done the world would be a happier place) but it's the forgetting part that makes history repeat. Shojayxt (and Bobsurplus) have been extremely detrimental to DRK and crypto in general. Although he does offer some valid points of view and things to consider, he is now running the classic "Yes, so I said those things, people change, people alter their views. Now can we just get back to the important stuff, discussing DRK?" then weaves this "holier than thou" ethos throughout his postings in an attempt to shame people who're determined not to let the memory of his destructiveness die. As painful as it is to have to read this stuff it is important. Good on you GhostPlayer for your rebukes of him and helping to maintain the collective memory. He is not to be trusted; ever. |
|
|
|
nice to have drk for betting  Crouton, given your strong views around mining and the benefits of P2pool, I'm surprised you haven't commented on this. I commented a page or three back here (I think it's a good idea, but not ideal) but I missed it on DCT back in April. My stance is pretty simple: I am not comfortable trusting my investment (not Earth-shattering, but more than what I call pocket money) to three doofuses on the intertubes. Imagine you had a $million or two. Would you really be happy putting millions of dollars into a system where your $millions could be rendered worthless overnight by somebody locating and compromising 3 servers or 3 server admins? Because that's the situation right now with PoW coins. You'd have to be actively stupid to trust such a system with any serious amount of investment. It's a joke, it's pure toytown, someone could destroy BTC or DRK for a few thousand bucks tops. Mmm...it's certainly worrying. I've read the many interactions you've had with pool admins (if it wasn't so serious they'd be pure entertainment!) I'm not knowledgeable enough on mining and pools to know what's truth/what's fiction. But the fact that you're so concerned about it and the fact that these large pools (and ASICs) seem to be such a major concern means I'm wondering whether this is an elephant in the room that no one wants to deal with. If this risk is as real as you're saying: It's a joke, it's pure toytown, someone could destroy BTC or DRK for a few thousand bucks tops
then we need more debate and I'd really like Evan to comment and discus it too. Evan, can you offer any assessment on the risk to Darkcoin in light of Crouton's concerns? question to evan, would masternodes be able to differentiate p2pool from ordinary pools? No, all miners look the same to the protocol. I like the idea of more users using P2Pool, but It's got to be the users that decide to do that, there's really no way to enforce it. Plus, I think the P2Pool software just needs improvement (complete rewrite probably). The masternode system can't really do donations like people are asking for either, there's not a good way to do that. If people want to donate, they'll have to manually calculate some of the profit and send it that way . Thanks for your response Evan. That's somewhat clarified the discussion points around p2pool and the fact masternodes don't operate in a manner to perform a donation function. Appreciate your points of view there. I'm wondering though if you could comment on this risk (perceived or otherwise) that Lonecrouton has highlighted of the mining pools causing so much centralisation that DRK (and BTC) could be easily commandeered and controlled for very low cost. Is this true, is it possible, it it likely? Crouton is obviously an intelligent guy and adds of lot of good content here on this forum. It's concerning that he is so emphatic about this issue with the mining pools (and has numerous heated interactions with them) yet no one else seems to share his level of concern. I'd really like to get to the nub of this to determine whether his concerns are justified and if they are what risk mitigation might be being undertaken. |
|
|
|
Couple of issues with P2Pool. --Memory LeakThe current p2pool software has a memory leak that uses all the available ram until it shuts down. It's an unfortunate pain. --HashratePeople go where the hashrate is. There used to be a p2pool.darkcointalk.org but the hashrate just became so miniscule that it had to be shut down. Even the main mpos pool http://mining.darkcointalk.org currently operating doesn't have a hashrate comparable to the top three pools. This is probably because of the misconception that a pool with a higher hashrate pays better when in fact, it pays exactly the same. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13002.0 (If you do mine, consider mining occasionally on the DCT pool it pays for the forums)
--Dust PaymentsWhen mining on a p2pool, you receive payments in very small inputs over the course of a day. Unlike a traditional pool when you can specify when to withdraw your coins or set up a predetermined withdrawal amount, you have no control over a p2pool payment. After a certain amount of transactions into the wallet, the QT wallet fails to function properly and becomes unusable. (possible bug with qt itself) --P2pool is unusable for small minersP2pool works by using a shared chain. It requires a higher hashrate than an MPOS or NOMP pool due to it needing to submit work faster than the latter. This disqualifies cpu miners from ever submitting valid shares in the time frame required of them. The minimum hashrate for LTC's p2pool is roughly 10MH/s. Before ASIC's I believe it was around 2.5MH/s. Unfortunately, I don't have the information to determine the minimum hashrate needed for a Darkcoin p2pool. Vertoe asked on stackoverflow but the answer was awful. http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/24557/how-to-calculate-the-minum-recommended-hashrate-for-p2pool-networkSo there definitely are some drawbacks to p2pool. I think it's a great concept but impractical. Been running a p2pool node for about 6 months now on a VM with 2 gig of ram... haven't noticed any memory leaks. Hashrate = people are stupid. Dust payments = Valid. low hashrate = semi valid but you don't get the point... its not the speed you hash at its the volume of hashes you are completing... I could theoretically cpu mine bitcoin itself and still find a block its the difficulty and the amount of hashes that has to be done to get a winner that actually counts. rrodent is there a guide on how to setup a p2pool node? With the dust payments issue in a QT wallet, can you not (every so often) aggregate all the small payments into one address to prevent your wallet.dat from getting out of hand? |
|
|
|
Crouton, given your strong views around mining and the benefits of P2pool, I'm surprised you haven't commented on this. I commented a page or three back here (I think it's a good idea, but not ideal) but I missed it on DCT back in April. My stance is pretty simple: I am not comfortable trusting my investment (not Earth-shattering, but more than what I call pocket money) to three doofuses on the intertubes. Imagine you had a $million or two. Would you really be happy putting millions of dollars into a system where your $millions could be rendered worthless overnight by somebody locating and compromising 3 servers or 3 server admins? Because that's the situation right now with PoW coins. You'd have to be actively stupid to trust such a system with any serious amount of investment. It's a joke, it's pure toytown, someone could destroy BTC or DRK for a few thousand bucks tops. Mmm...it's certainly worrying. I've read the many interactions you've had with pool admins (if it wasn't so serious they'd be pure entertainment!) I'm not knowledgeable enough on mining and pools to know what's truth/what's fiction. But the fact that you're so concerned about it and the fact that these large pools (and ASICs) seem to be such a major concern means I'm wondering whether this is an elephant in the room that no one wants to deal with. If this risk is as real as you're saying: It's a joke, it's pure toytown, someone could destroy BTC or DRK for a few thousand bucks tops
then we need more debate and I'd really like Evan to comment and discus it too. Evan, can you offer any assessment on the risk to Darkcoin in light of Crouton's concerns? |
|
|
|
masternodes and mining should be separate. They would have to be absolutely bullet proof or knocking out the mn network knocks out mining. At the moment any issue with the mn network just affects mixing, the coin remains secure.
I do agree, issues of one have no affect on other, thats good. ASICs? Yes, More hash is out there the better is for all, network secured, less coins for people, price skyrockets, new technology for x11 mining, history of BTC? History like to repeat Hash is irrelevant. 10,000 cpus with poor hash are better than 10 asics with a huge hash. Also, btc price did not skyrocketed because of ASICs but due to inflow of Russian after the Cyprian crisis & especially in November/December 2013 because of Chinese funds Which is why I keep trying to push everybody to solomine with their QT from the console setgenerate true -1 And every now and then you'll not only hit a block but you'll also pay a MN :-) What does this "setgenerate true -1" actually do Mangled? I just ran it in my QT. What are the ramifications for performance and should you turn it off if you're doing something requiring heavy processing power on your PC? Are there losses associated with turning it off then back on again (i.e. like when you join a pool there's a ramp-up period)? Is it a very long shot that you'd ever get a block? Uses your CPU to mine... -1 actually uses the maximum cores in your computer... if anything, use half of what you have in your computer (a quadcore would be fine spending 2 cores mining, setgenerate true 2). Turn it off with setgenerate false. Treat whatever hash you are using as pps, no ramp up or ramp down from a cpu mining solo in the wallet. It's a very very very very long shot of finding a block. Type getmininginfo to see how much you are hashing in comparison to the network hash. Okay, thanks for the info oblox.  { "blocks" : 172464, "currentblocksize" : 2421, "currentblocktx" : 2, "difficulty" : 4139.20155433, "errors" : "", "generate" : true, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 36534, "networkhashps" : 111978833981, "pooledtx" : 3, "testnet" : false } It's not looking too promising is it! |
|
|
|
This is totally untypical of me, but damn... she is hot. Yep. Here she is in her race heat where she blitzes the field. Listen to the two male commentators trying to describe her warm-up routine and you can hear they're being ever so measured in how they're describing her ("youthful exuberance" says one, on the edge of his seat). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXwA30Oado |
|
|
|
masternodes and mining should be separate. They would have to be absolutely bullet proof or knocking out the mn network knocks out mining. At the moment any issue with the mn network just affects mixing, the coin remains secure.
I do agree, issues of one have no affect on other, thats good. ASICs? Yes, More hash is out there the better is for all, network secured, less coins for people, price skyrockets, new technology for x11 mining, history of BTC? History like to repeat Hash is irrelevant. 10,000 cpus with poor hash are better than 10 asics with a huge hash. Also, btc price did not skyrocketed because of ASICs but due to inflow of Russian after the Cyprian crisis & especially in November/December 2013 because of Chinese funds Which is why I keep trying to push everybody to solomine with their QT from the console setgenerate true -1 And every now and then you'll not only hit a block but you'll also pay a MN :-) What does this "setgenerate true -1" actually do Mangled? I just ran it in my QT. What are the ramifications for performance and should you turn it off if you're doing something requiring heavy processing power on your PC? Are there losses associated with turning it off then back on again (i.e. like when you join a pool there's a ramp-up period)? Is it a very long shot that you'd ever get a block? |
|
|
|
Crouton, given your strong views around mining and the benefits of P2pool, I'm surprised you haven't commented on this. |
|
|
|
Any updates on when Instant Transaction testing might start?  , Ultrafast DRK Edition One of Australia's best exports. Watch her responding to the extraordinary avalanche of people watching that video; just beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEWMdxdk7w |
|
|
|
TanteStefana2: Pix of sister plz.
Oh, she's not very pretty. She's always been jealous of my looks, kind of annoying. I can't help it if I'm so pretty! But here is her picture if you're really that interested:  PS. Get a grip boys, I mean hip replacement, I need a double knee replacement soon myself...er...hint hint, we're OLD! LOL you're such a great sport Tante, putting up with all of us boys and our "show us a picture, show us a picture...!" demands. |
|
|
|
You're right, CoinBreader, haha. I don't know Jaystarr - hey Jaystar, nice to meet you - but they're right. I know they're right because I've had a few months with the idea of Bollywoodcoin and Coinvidz running around my head. And, bollywoodcoin dev can't convey in an OP how far this actually reaches...  watch this space Go Bollywoodcoin!  retorted another newbie with an even bigger activity of 2! (I really do wonder how long this sort of stuff will go on for) |
|
|
|
I'm officially writing this one off as a loss...
I just Praise God, that I can "write off" my losses, in that I lost less than $50. I cannot imagine those that lost thousands or millions, they're probably out for raging hot blood. To them, I know not what to say. Except that, repent and accept Jesus if you haven't, is definitely one way of facing true wickedness. Matthew 5 is perhaps relevant here. "If someone sues you and gets Bitcoin from you, give him your Litecoin as well." 38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Can't you just shut up, you are at the wrong forum. First I lose a lot of coins, then I have to listen to an religious idiot like you.. Srmojuze you write some good posts and have many good ideas, but I have to add to ontopic's sentiment. A lot of people are hurting right now, and while I appreciate your commitment to your Christian beliefs and ideology, that's effectively all it is within the context of a forum like this, "Christian beliefs and ideology". To give you some sense of how unappetising and unpalatable needing to read such rhetoric all time is, imagine there was someone on here that kept pushing an Islamic line of thinking; constantly giving quotes from the Koran. Or imagine there was a Hindu on here constantly quoting the Bhagavad Gita and telling us all how we should be thinking. Or imagine there was a Mormon on here constantly telling us that Joseph Smith could resolve our issues and that we just need to become Mormon. How would this sit with you? You see everyone has their own pathway to travel, and while a strong commitment to Christianity might be just the right thing for you, it isn't necessarily so for everyone else. The essence of being a strong Christian (in my view) is to "let your light shine" through good works and deeds (which I'm sure you do too) but shoving it down people's throats isn't going to attract one person to what you hold so dear and think is the answer to the world's problems. |
|
|
|
I have approx 3.15 million RDD and am staking using the 14.0.0 QT wallet. I probably get a stake payment coming through maybe every 4 or 5 days and if I add them up and divide by the number of days I've been staking, it's around the 5% per annum mark, so I think it's working okay.
I had an experience a couple of months ago where a staking payment suddenly appeared and, as I was on my laptop connected via a free Wi-Fi in a shopping centre, I neglected to ensure the connection was still active and I later realised I'd lost my stake because the network mustn't have been able to confirm it. Since then any time a stake appears I make sure nothing prevents the wallet from working through the blocks confirmation to ensure the stake payment sticks.
Yesterday, suddenly a stake of around 2300 arrived but, incredibly, it only showed in my transaction list for about 20 seconds and then disappeared not to return! There was nothing wrong with my Internet connectivity at the time and I was surprised as I expected it to sit there and eventually be confirmed as the previous ones. Has anyone else had this experience?
It happens from time to time. It's an orphaned block, the same as orphans from mining. Basically, your wallet thought it found a block, but as it sent out that info to the network it realized that someone had beat you to it. Happens to me occasionally. The good news is that the coin age that had been spent on that block is essentially refunded, and it will find another block soon enough. tl;dr - nothing to worry about mate! Okay, thanks for the explanation. Another one's come through this morning and it's been confirmed this time, so all okay. |
|
|
|
|
I have approx 3.15 million RDD and am staking using the 14.0.0 QT wallet. I probably get a stake payment coming through maybe every 4 or 5 days and if I add them up and divide by the number of days I've been staking, it's around the 5% per annum mark, so I think it's working okay.
I had an experience a couple of months ago where a staking payment suddenly appeared and, as I was on my laptop connected via a free Wi-Fi in a shopping centre, I neglected to ensure the connection was still active and I later realised I'd lost my stake because the network mustn't have been able to confirm it. Since then any time a stake appears I make sure nothing prevents the wallet from working through the blocks confirmation to ensure the stake payment sticks.
Yesterday, suddenly a stake of around 2300 arrived but, incredibly, it only showed in my transaction list for about 20 seconds and then disappeared not to return! There was nothing wrong with my Internet connectivity at the time and I was surprised as I expected it to sit there and eventually be confirmed as the previous ones. Has anyone else had this experience?
|
|
|
|
DRK dancing to the craptsy bot beat  |
|
|
|
Ode to Tok
CryptoShakespeare.... I've almost finished Jump Around by House of Pain, should be a new Dark Anthem, but I can't finish the 1st verse. The rest of the song is done If you still have "poets block" then put what you have up and we'll CrowdFinish it. |
|
|
|
Sorry to interrupt the speculation, but I've just made the perfect purchase and I wanted to share the good news TorGuard (anonymous VPN) accepts Darkcoin!!TorGuard is a well known VPN provider. They don't keep logs and support all protocols. They have integrated CoinPayments and now support DRK (and a bunch of other altcoins). I was trying different services lately, but after seeing this, my decision was made. I have signed up to their service and paid with Darkcoin! I hated to see a few coins go, but it is also great to be able use them and show support. The price for their Anonymous VPN service is 5 USD per month if you pay annually. This forum is sponsored by TorGuard's biggest competitor, Private Internet Access. Many of us asked them to accept Darkcoin recently and they didn't listen. We now have our alternative If you also want to sign up, please consider using my referral link: https://torguard.net/aff.php?aff=806Also, for a 20% disccount, use this coupon code when checking out: vpncoupons bump and buy I'm wondering if using such a service can be detected by my ISP or the guv causing my household to become a target? I would love to do this just for the principle of the thing but because I'm easily rattled and anxious, I don't want to invite anyone to pick on me ;P (stupid but true). So does anyone know if this makes me a target in any way? Thanks! Once you're a target, nothing will save you: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/39788/how-can-you-be-caught-using-private-vpn-when-theres-no-logs-about-who-you-areThat's a very good way to look at it Tungfa. Perhaps by getting a VPN you're inviting attention to yourself... I know lots of guys at work that have a VPN so they can watch BBC iPlayer etc, you think there's enough numbers? Ignition, you're actually talking to Tante (the other of our lovely ladies here in the DRK forum). I'm quite dubious about using a commercial VPN service too. I'd expect what Tante is saying would carry some weight. The vast teams of spooks and cybertrawlers within the guv 3 letter agencies would most surely be filtering on several criteria, and users of VPN's (I'd expect) would be one of them. |
|
|
|
Ode to Tok
CryptoShakespeare.... |
|
|
|
Forward.
How many MNs on newest ver? I'm out of home now.
i'm interested to know about that as well, we cant get any accurate info from https://drk.mn/masternodes.htmlright now as that site is still in the process of updating which could take as long as 24 hours .. so any new light on that matter would be nice as of 8:39 PM GMT we have 183 MNs on 16.6 according to my daemon. thanks.. a long way to go edit : ''masternode list'' or ''masternode count'' in console gets those results from a 16.6 wallet ? correct ? although in my wallet it mentions 76 masternodes  as at 20:46 GMT my daemon on 16.6 is only showing 120 MNs. "masternode list" from within my 16.6 wallet is only showing 40. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
