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841  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Before and after bull run. on: October 14, 2023, 05:18:04 PM
Keep in touch with your family and friends before and after bull run, the happiness of profit can also drive one crazy which can make one do something unreasonable such as getting drunk, driving recklessly and many more.  To those who will see this thread, please keep this words in mind.

What? I haven't heard of any such incident ever, Also what kind of thread it is? sounds like some awareness thread but why the content in it is more referring the risk management and profit Booking only? The important part is most of the time when we get involved in any market we use it to express our experiences with our close ones so there is no need to hesitate to tell anyone that you're in crypto whether you're doing well or not.

Excitement can lead to unusual acts but still, I don't think a person who books X amount of profit from Y amount of investment will drunk (It's Haram first of all), drive recklessly, etc. If he's a trader and booked profit in any trade I'm damm sure he can control his emotions and if he's an investor he'll have a good investor quality as well, because he entered the market and he was expecting profit and he's not a psychopath to coming of such offensive move in just excitement for the upcoming scenarios he'll be aware of it already.
842  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 14, 2023, 02:15:24 PM
2 Years c ais rules mein koi changes ni hoi aur na hi kisi ny suggestion di hay changes kernay ki. Lekin ab zada members active hein aur sab apnay apnay hisab c suggestions dein gay jaisay k zada posts ni but jo zada din active hy aus ko milay wageria wageria.  Ab app logoon ny maipulation kr k inaam apnay naam kerna hy tu sahi hy, apki marzi hy.

Haha manupaltion karne ke lia ye konsa future trade lagi hoi haa post number paa jo apko liquidate karde gii.. It was just a suggestion mera view on it .. I'm sure iss see kisi tarah kii manipulation too zahirr nai hotii.. Number of posts kaa kia haa aik doo month maa koi bi posts karke oper a jye gaa..

Baqiyon ka pata nai main agar kahin ki sugestion banti haa zaror doon ga for rest upto community kon kis tarah manupalte karta haa baqool apke...

For the rest price kiii kia baat kar rehe app sir, mere kehne see kia mujhe mill jayee gaa, han agar apko esa lagta ha mjhe lagta apko insecurity haa iss hawalee see.. mujhe to faraq nai padtaa..  Cool Cool.
843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 14, 2023, 12:45:13 PM
Just approve them already, Gensler.

844  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 14, 2023, 12:31:15 PM
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Behteen ala.. Zabardast.. bass Subject ani change karo please ....
Chaloo abii post quality increase kiyee dete hainn in just simple 2 steps... Stop posting Shit news () just for merits Political yaa non crypto related News koo share karna baand karr dain haamra thread Quality maa top paa aa jyee gaaa.

Mujhe nai Pata kis kis koo buraaa lagee gaa kis kis koo. nai meria dat nai news read karna yahan forum paaa.

⚠️ Koi crypto related topic haa aooo discuss akrtee hain apko guide bi akrain gee.
⚠️ Koi information topic haa related to any domain not Only crypto its freelancing anything isko bii consider akr saktee.
⚠️ App new discussion ka liaa contribute karo Question karo answer karo jo apko pata be natural.
⚠️ Guide newbies / even if you are not much experienced jitna pata haa otna batao..
⚠️ Aik News kii Headlign + 1 Photo + 1 ordnianry explanation + 1 source (Perfect Spaming)

Agar esi discussion paa apko support nai miltii too batao.. 90% esi posts koo main khud read karta jo ka discussion engaging hoti koi baat kisi koo achii large gii apko support bii akree gaa with merits and appreciation. Mainn point number 5 wali posts koo 99% ignore karta hunn.


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Hmm.. To 2023 kaa most active users ma Sayeds56 to drop out ho jain geee  Shocked and I think agar esa koi contest hum again rakhte hain too is baar not on the number of total post balkeee humm on the consistency rakhte haain like days posted.. yanii ka total post koo chood ka kitne din post karte rehe yee count karte.. to analyze it I can help on the end hehe ... I'm sure no more than 7 8 users we need to count the consistency is tarah yee total posts koo chood kaa aik fair chance hoga for everyone at least more wider range too ho hi jayee gaa..

Mera bii maybe chance abn jaye some hehe... Wesse too mujhe dooor dooor take nazar nnai a raha..

میچ تو وڑ گیا۔

کیا کہیں گے آپ پاکستان کی بیٹنگ کے بارے میں۔

مجھے تومیچ فکس لگ رہا ہے جیسے چیئرمین پی سی بی انڈین بورڈ اور گورنمنٹ آفیشل سےملا ہے۔


Haha.. fix nai haa hamri team kaa confidence level intahii ghtiyaa haa.. 132 tak i think just 2 wickets down and jesse hi BAbar gyaa.. Rzwan panic howa nad jesse hi Rizwan gyaa saree ese gye jesse kaa Chawal taqseem ho rehe hun dressing room maa.. + ye kia fazool chances pa chances dee rehe Imam koo Shadab koo This was a perfect batting pitch.. Fazool tareen Batting haa Imaam kii kitni dafa team ko distrub karna baqi haa .. Mana 2 3 matches but yee consitency too Bitcoiners maa bi nai haa jo Imam maa haa.

Ye SHadab kuu rakha howa abii takk kitni dafa isne pressure ma support kiaa ulta harr dafa pressure maa dala isne .. Kia contribution haa iski team maa except for giving alot of run to opponent.
845  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ferrari introduced BTC payment option for their cars on: October 14, 2023, 12:15:43 PM
I seriously doubt that there is a high interest among those who own bitcoin to use it to purchase an expensive car like a Ferrari. In fact I believe the same problem existed with Tesla and I believe this was the real reason why Musk removed the bitcoin payment option not the nonsense he said about the energy consumption.

In other words the only thing that this news is going to do is for a short time it is going to introduce Bitcoin to some people who would hear about this decentralized currency, then it is going to be forgotten until possibly the day they remove this option which there would be some FUD and again it will be forgotten the same way Tesla and Musk are.

However, I won't impact more in any type of appreciation, but it can be taken as a reminder for those who have forgotten about the Decentralized Payment Mode as you've said. It won't make any demand surplus except for particular narrow seniors for those who love to buy Ferraris and they don't own enough money yet and focus on the accumulation and hope that someday their Bitcoin will be gonna worth enough to buy a Ferrari.

I'm sure until that day they'll remove this option  Cool Cool.
846  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Still A P2P Electronic Cash System ?. on: October 14, 2023, 12:09:17 PM
If you have bitcoin, you have the full control over your coins. That also means that you can do whatever you like with your coins.

Don't forget about the condition, Only if you have your Bitcoins in Self-Custodial Wallet.

Bitcoin is a P2P means of making payment, but it has appreciating value as its price is increasing as there are more demand. That is bitcoin by design, even if not included in white paper, and that has been one if the reasons people adopted it.

Well, that's obvious, with the characteristics. No matter how others take it as an Investment opportunity, their safe mode with inflation as a store of value or Jewelry to show off (Just Saying), Their life fortnight life changer etc, etc, It was a P2P payment mode and it will be by default.
847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How To Accumulate Bitcoin More Effectively In Any Market Zone on: October 14, 2023, 12:02:11 PM

You have a valid point, I honestly, did now know the terms, like semi mid term etc. I searched it on AI and asked about it and it says, mid-term investment is less than 3 years and long-term is longer than 5 years. I don't know if this information is accurate, but I am aware of the types of trading and also know how long a trader holds on his/her trades, and if that limit crosses I start to call it to hold. And that's a maximum of 1 year.

Dear the time span of all these short to long-term investments can vary from market to market or perspective to perspective, as you know here in the Bitcoin and crypto market a one-year investment is considered a mid-term investment. Information can be wrong or right here but what matters is the source and the point of view of explaining the cycle to the end. You can compare the interval between the stock market and Bitcoin to authenticate what I'm trying to say.

The Investment category falls under the total cycle timeline in your analysis if the cycle is 4 years 1 year is short term and 2-3 years is mid-term and 3-4 years is long term. So what matters is the total timeline of your analysis. Here in the Bitcoin market we generally consider every analysis of zones based on the 4-year cycle.


I tend to favour long term HODL because I have found that more effective and comfortable for me, which also allows me to maximize profits. In other words, long-term HODL allows me to grow in wealth, and as you know, the feeling that you have aged for the future has a way of adding to longevity.

HODL can be really a good approach in both terms to maximize the returns and to avoid any FOMO and fear with market momentum, in other words a risk management proof strategy.
848  Economy / Economics / Re: The economics of war. How does this affect us all especially us in crypto? on: October 13, 2023, 08:03:40 PM

To all in Ukraine vs Russia I hope for peace.
To all in Israel vs Palestine I hope for peace.
To all in China vs Taiwan please keep the peace.
Kashmir is missing from the highlights .. Also we all want peace but according to the human physiological cycle it's not possible in any age, Still, I hope all will end with peace, Standing with the Peace Talks Solutions.
War's are not the solution but it's a dead end for every country.



In Israel vs Palestine, I hope for peace, currently, Palestinians are the ones who have been victims for along time.

849  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to verify a URL of a website on: October 13, 2023, 04:32:42 PM

Which antivirus will you prefer for malware? I used Avast,node32 and Avira some years ago but all these antivirus delete my necessary files and also hang my PC, so I uninstalled and never used again so far.
If we doesn't click on any site nor delete then still possibility of any malware attack?

Buddy as long as you don't bypass your own security by installing the software from third-party sources and cracked versions of the security firewalls provided by the Windows itself. No need for additional layers, avoid clicking suspicious links and you're safe.

I've encountered similar issues back in time but after I realized my own few mishandlings, after that never I realized to have antivirus software. Hmm yes, buddy if you follow never click on unwanted sites, and don't install any third-party sourced software you can go safe without any antivirus software.
850  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are the advantages of trading BTC pair? on: October 13, 2023, 04:12:31 PM
You will only need to sell your Bitcoins for USDT if you don't deposit fiat money on the exchange or if you don't hold stablecoins. Sometimes it's better to hold stablecoins than Bitcoin, especially if you need to withdraw money from time to time and don't want to have to convert BTC in fiat when it is potentially at its lower price.

Hmm, Senior that is really considerable holding some of the stablecoins is really important for emergency funds, savings etc etc, even while planning the finance in risk investment markets we cant ignore the importance of stable money. I explained the most suitable currency holding the crypto market cycle in my above post.

No doubt Bitcoin is top of the line but according to the market conditions  and sentiments we need to plan our moves, buying the dips requires the stable currency even planing the DCA for regular accumulation requires the stable-crrency.
851  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 13, 2023, 03:09:26 PM
Apki counting akfi kharab lagti haa mujhe... y aphir apne ulta count akr dia haa. anyway correct one is ka
Thanks for the correction dear, Actually apki hi post dekh kr mujhy idea howa tha ky OP ny thodhi si ghlti kr di, lekin apka ghlti btany ka tariq kafi rude tha, I mean we all make mistakes but we should not talk rudely with each other. Of course, HCD123 ko apki baat maybe rude nhi lgi as lgi hoti to maybe koi response diya howa, but mujhy zaroor lgi.

What's so rude here .. buddy casually I think koi bi ese hi reply degaa.. apko rude kessee lagg sakti as here on forum we cant judge the expressions.. yehi baat agar main nee ya ksi high rank member nee kii hoti I'm dmm sure an sirf apko balke kisi ko rude nai lagtii..

as counting kisi ki bi kharab nhi hoti bs mistake ho jati hain, jasy last timeap ny jb wo news share ki thi ky satoshi BTC ka real founder nhi hai blky NSA waly hain, or ap ny kaha ky kya is sy market pr koi impact padh skta hai, I mean question to childish tha lekin I doubt ky hm my sy koi rude behave kiya ho ap sy. maybe  kisi ny thodha bohat funny words ka istemal zaroor kiya ho lekin still. Bro respect the SR here. Baki apki marzi. main apka wo reply read to kiya lekin reply nhi diya us pr, as I thought to ignore it. apko demotivate nhi kr rha yeh batain kh kr, bs apko bta rha ky h sb ghlti krty hain, insan to hai hi ghlti ka putla, so don't be rude I hope you wont mind me.

Agr mai ny koi words bury bol diya hon to sorry and again thanks for noticing the mistake and pointing it out.

Haha, that's too good with sorry to end the counter.. hehe  Grin Hypocritical.. I do mind this dominance ..  Cool. So lagta haa ap last post kiii basis paa judge kar rehe + I dont think soo childish questions are new approach here.. main khud bohat sari childish batain akrta even though bohat sarii to main apki mention akr saktaa hehe.. karon kiaa...
mere pyarree bhai jaan lagta haa pako koi gaalt fehmii hoi yaa phirr jo apne qoute kia haa oske baare maa apko pata hii nai wooa ctivity ka baree ma

What about this one.. I'm sure you haven't noticed that both posts are on the same time haha why I'm defending .. becz I merited his post hehe maybe may not bee..

Anyway, that is not the point to be discussed because on the forum we don't exchange expressions so you cant be judgy without concrete words..  Read the lines 1 to 2 time with those dot stops you'll get it I'm sure.
852  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Know When to Stop. Lesson for Everyone, Particularly Investors on: October 13, 2023, 02:01:37 PM

Investing in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general is more of a marathon than a sprint. You'll likely be part of this market for many years, and during that time, you'll witness significant fluctuations.

If you ever catch yourself hurrying to make a trade – Pause.

If you become irritable when someone interrupts you as you analyze your investments – Pause.

If you're consumed by doubts about whether buying or selling is the right move – Pause.

If emotions start to dominate your decision-making – Pause.

Except for point, No. 1 I think with the rest of the pauses I can definitely agree with OP, Emotionless traders are really rare, trading makes you emotional less here just a caution, Analysis is important for a confidential decision at least the analysis provides some logical grounds about your position.

The trading game revolves around how efficient your decision-making power is and decision-making requires logical grounds, analysis of sentiments of the market, etc, In the volatile market your quick pickup of decisions helps you generate profit, always keep in mind that you are not alone this market understand the physiology of the opponent hehe.
853  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between bitcoin and cryptocurrency. on: October 13, 2023, 12:46:57 PM
I've come to realise that many people still don't understand that there are other cryptocurrencies apart from the bitcoin,

So, what is cryptocurrency a form of digital medium of exchange, Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency aka a Digital medium of exchange and now at the same time other digital currencies in the crypto market except Bitcoin are Altcoins (Alternate coins), cryptocurrencies hold a few common characteristics as pre-described supply (tokenomics),
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a mechanism used to regulate the creation of blocks and the state of the blockchain it can be Pow/Pos or any other consesus
. Now here in the crypto world coins as Bitcoin & Altcoins driven by a new digital class called tokens (tokenization) they hold a different set of properties.

The Discussion does not end here in Altocins, there are shitcoins, memes NFTS etc ... I'm sure every crypto beginner at least apprised of these terms.

King is King BTCitcoin better to study it, avoid to waste most of your time on the shitcoins ..

yes the bitcoin is considered a cryptocurrency but they're two things altogether, bitcoin is the supreme digital currency and all digital currencies around the world are known as cryptocurrency, it is an form of currency be it digitally or virtually that uses cryptography to secure it's transactions,whereas bitcoin uses a decentralized ledger called the blockchain to maintain and secure a transparent record of transactions.

What?? Transactions are not secured by cryptography because there is no encryption on the transaction details except for the public addresses and private keys, Transections are secured by the proof of consensus whether it's POW POS or any other used on the blockchain. In other words, this public or private ledger is called blockchain which secures the transaction. It's too confusing OP is better to create topic after a good research and analysis (Count it as a suggestion, not an attack).
854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2023, 07:50:47 PM
There are so many folks who have not yet gotten into bitcoin, so for sure making it through a full cycle is nearly putting you at OG status... give it another 10 years, and you will likely really be starting to feel that you have been a bitcoiner for like forever, especially since I suspect that we may well still be having half or more of the population without any or hardly any exposure to BTC... and sure it is hard to say what the level of BTC's adoption will be in the next 10 years - perhaps in the 10% to 20% range?  That would be bullish.. ...  

I would like to be surprised with higher levels of adoption.. and so many crazy things could end up happening in the next 10 years.. and I hate having doom and gloom thoughts.. so maybe it is just easier taking one day (step) at a time.

Have you reached your BTC accumulation goal, then if not keep accumulating.

If you are in your maintenance stage, you might be accumulating and liquidating.. so attempting to keep some kind of a meaningful balance.. not easy with such a volatile asset.. even when some of us feel that we have decent systems in place.. we still might have some questions regarding how to manage/maintain it.


As I'm here for the rest of my life I will keep counting on Bitcoin, In the coming cycle I'm sure around 20% to 30% population is gonna recognize Bitcoin as their priority.

Bitcoin accumulation goal, you mean that amount well for now I am not sure about what should be the specific number you can say untill now it's X, but I'm on the way.

Hmm, it's hard to say but with the passage of time my physiology about Bitcoin and the market is much more mature now, so most of the time I can say I've done well in handling the fear & FOMO.
855  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 12, 2023, 07:31:57 PM
1000 merits wali requirements to puri nai hui lekn dusri to mery khayal sy puri hi hai. Bss us my ek random selection hoti hai baqi activity puri hi hai ap ki. Han 1000 activity or 1000 merits ky bad ap ko confirm legendary spot mil jati hai. Or In sha Allah you will get that ran soon. In sha Allah.

Hmm InshAllah.. App zara hamri madad karain naa 1000 merit poore karne wali requirement maa haha (Just Kiding) apki waja see hi too bhai hum yahan take poonchee hain you know my inspiration hehe .. Grin Grin Bass Allah Zindgii lambi kare laga nishna Shahzadafzal sir koo banaiyee gee.. 2600+ chale gye hain sir .. Ahisstaa Ahsista hu bii koshish karte hainn.

G bhai Hamza bhai MashaAllah se ban jaege jaise he activity aur Merit poore hojae. Mai users ka data check karta rehta hoo aur wo member jin k jaise hee 1000 merit huwe aur activity poore the wo direct legendary ban gae hai. Per hamare Themepen sir 2024 se pehle Legendary nazar aenge, ek naye andaz k sath, full protocol k sat. Muje apna secretary rakh lena zaror.

Nai bhai ye apko secetray kunn rakhin gee.. hum kahan jain gee phir app ne jaga lee lii too.. wessy bii unchee muqaam pee poohanch ka aqsar loog gareeboon koo bhool jate hainn..

Thank You
Thanks brother guide krne ke leiye next time me code ke trteeb  Ku durust Rakhu GA take Phr aesa issue n deikhne Ku mealay

You're Welcome.

Haan ye issue tag ki posting ki waja see ataa haa agr ap osko order ma use akrte hoo to woo bilkul theek work karee gaa.. anyway its good to see ka apko koi help milli hum nasaz ki post see..
856  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are the advantages of trading BTC pair? on: October 12, 2023, 07:23:23 PM
I want to know why there are so many pairs available to trade on exchanges.
Does trading with a bitcoin pair help us save fees in any way? For example, if I need to trade other altcoins, I need to first sell my bitcoin for USDT and then trade that altcoin with the USDT pair. In this process, I need to pay a double fee, so trading directly with a bitcoin pair will save me fees in any way?
How will I profit if the prices of altcoins match those of bitcoin? When I trade with the BTC pair, both will rise and fall simultaneously.

Hmm.. Bitcoin valuation compared to the USDT, I'm not sure about the fees, but in terms of valuation it can be really helpful if executed smartly, It can be the future adoption of many users, just try to analyze the BTC pair with any coin and USDT pair with any coin and now compare the trades profit/loss there will be a huge difference. Stablecoins are risk-free pairs from most traders' perspectives but if you're a Bitcoin the BTC valuation mindset can be your greatest opportunity.

Let's understand it properly with the cycling movement.

♦️ BEar Marekt (Stable Currnecy ✔️)
♦️ Pre-Halving (Bitcoin ✔️)
♦️ Halving (Bitcoin ✔️)
♦️ Post Halving (Altcoins ✔️)
857  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Recommended non KYC fiat on ramp(s) - "whitelisted" by tradfi banks on: October 12, 2023, 07:01:32 PM
It is difficult to find a service that does not accept identity verification and has activity with banking systems, and even existing ones may be able to do this through some banking loopholes, but once the platform grows and has a large user base, identity verification procedures are necessary,

By the time the platform grows, to proceed further and avoid any sort of legal action they mostly change their working policies such as additional terms & conditions with identity verification etc, etc. At the initial times, it's hard for the users to trust the new platforms but with the passage of time, they prove themselves reliable their change in the policies makes it unreliable for most of the users again.

Still, some people compromise with their identity.
858  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Something dangerous we do when using Binance P2P platform on: October 12, 2023, 12:15:24 PM
I strongly believe this is how the victim lost is phone number to strangers, to make some transactions a success, and yet losing your data in the process, I hope this teach people something new today. Roll Eyes

There are many other disturbing terms from the buyer's side on Binance P2P, I would highly recommend never trade accepting these terms better to find a local dealer for cash payments, 0 terms, and most safest option.

Even if you are as well tricking him by giving a wrong/fake number still you are giving him a number, sometimes these terms suck. I have seen many of my local fellows using the Binance P2P at a time I was also using it regularly for both buying and selling purposes but when i di realized the outcomes, I made an instant exit from it.

Better to be honest with your identity, and keep it safe rest of the things don't matter, identity abuse is very common here so be very careful with such deals.
859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
Debt time bomb

Tick...tick....tick.....

Biden borrowing binge driving ‘unsustainable’ rise in global debts, warns IMF
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/biden-borrowing-binge-driving-unsustainable-175346283.html

I made a post on it a few weeks back in time here, this Tick....tick is going to end sooner, and the worst-case scenario we are going to face gonna destroy the whole economic cycle. It really doesn't matter now the gap is too big $32.6 trillion to $23.32 trillion.

Any chances of Bitcoin standards ??
860  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of reserves? Insurance fund? Best I can do is a random number generator! on: October 12, 2023, 11:58:15 AM
Exactly. It's happened many times before. An exchanges goes bankrupt because of their own shady practices or because of a hack, so they either launch a shitcoin and "pay" back their users in this worthless shitcoin instead of bitcoin, or they just print a few hundred million of an existing shitcoin out of nothing to keep themselves solvent. A prime example of this is Bitfinex and Tether, where they printed almost a billion USDT out of nothing and gave it to themselves after they were hacked and insolvent.

Still, people consider USDT trustworthy, it's all the game of valuation, there is a need for the realization that the value we need is not a stable currency it is Bitcoin. I'm afraid until we are gonna learn there will be another.



I couldn't image if Binance is bankrupt, how bad is the chaos affecting Bitcoin holder since most of people hold their funds in Binance.
If this mishap is really based on truth, then the cover of this disaster, i.e., Binance Bankrupt, will be beyond imagination. Why are 150 million people connected to Binance with their assets? If Binance shuts down or goes bankrupt, it may cause a sell-off panic in the cryptocurrency market due to the sell-off in the prices of bitcoin and other coins.

This is the hit I'm talking about, non-custodial holdings are the only solution to avoid it but it's a hard job to educate people for the possible outcomes. SAFU is not a sign of reliability, it point out something better to make an exit.
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