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841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2015, 05:47:32 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Been on the sick list for a few days but I didn't seem to miss anything except maybe the usual trollfest when it temporarily dipped below $280.

No sign of the anticipated end-of-week crash that China was supposed to wreak upon us.

Business as usual.

It sure didn't. Even HSBC released better than expected figures in the middle of that storm. Maybe we are over rating their influence.

Ah well, onward and upward.
842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2015, 03:40:18 PM
like 5% of all bitcoins possibly lost forever ??

Be more like:



Seriously, but didnt they find 200,000 of them in another computer? (you know, the one that wedges the server room door open..)
843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2015, 11:30:03 AM
Mark Karpeles menaced to dump at least 500k bitcoins if arrested. So dump your coins if it`s not too late !

he's not able to dump anymore just singing in the jail.


Quite true. The only dumping he will be doing for the foreseeable future will be into a little metal bucket in the corner.

Interesting to note that the only charge the japs have been able to hold him on was in relation to his little bit of theater where he 'demonstrated' the liquidity of MtGox by transferring a million odd dollars into his account. It seems its illegal to falsely inflate your balance, but quite legal to make 300 million disappear.  Smiley

Either way, I reckon his arrest/trial will have precisely zero impacrt on the bitcoin price. The damage was done long ago.
844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2015, 09:44:26 AM
Ugh, just came back. 50 pages to go through.

Quick sumary:

Bears be bearish
Bulls be bullish
NLC made an appearance.
Inca posted dubious pictures of children.

And bitcoin? Well, bitcoin did fuck all except go down a bit and then start to come up.

Saved you at least an hour there.... Grin
845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2015, 02:05:06 PM

We need someone or a couple people to aggressively buy in order to break this downtrend...like you said a 5k market order would def do it!

Maybe we should ask inca & ask to do it?  Kinda surprised they haven't thought of it themselves, cheap coins...

+1.

Clinging to an idea that makes no logical sense to informed players is about par for the course.
846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 03:58:17 PM

Emboldened text: So when i said you have already taken your position and now are trumpeting improbable price collapses on here you are doing that to talk your book, right? Thought so. Funny that you disappeared as the price rose from 219 to 316 Smiley

I never trumpet anything of the sort - look at my post to the coffee guy - I guessed 'significantly lower', not collapse.  230 was tongue in cheek, but still hardly 'collapse'


Oh and owning a commodity or share over the longer term because there is a long term bullish trend is not unintelligent. It just isn't churning trading in and out of a position trying to catch every little up and downmove. Damn those lucky microsoft/apple/amazon/'name any stock with a long term bull market' investors! Most traders lose and lose very badly including most on this thread by trying to time the market.

Bitcoin is a commodity now?  Thats your number one mistake.  Bitcoin has no intrinsic value, other than the trust that people have in it as a token by which value is exchanged.  A lot like the dollar in that respect. I'm guessing you dont see the distinction in that.


Btw if you are going to accuse people on a bitcoin forum who are bullish about bitcoin as hating and then at least think about your post structure and move the word 'permabulltard' into a different sentence. Smiley

people who labell posters "Trolls" because they have a different view to their orthodoxy are, in my book, haters. Maintaining lists and suchlike is almost an incitement to hatred. Its not healthy.


847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 02:38:41 PM

It is common parlance to refer to those who benefit from the price rising and falling as bulls and bears. I am taking a guess that those with a bearish position have already sold short or simply sold their position. That is the reason why you have wormed back out the wood work, right?


Informed players are bulls or bears based on the position they have already taken - and they take this position based on where they speculate the market will go.  

No intelligent person plays the market continuously as one or the other. Except people like you, and the other permabulltards who litter this thread, hating anyone who tries to take a more balanced view.

Yes, I have played my position, as I posted on Tuesday.  But I only buy and sell - I don't take short positions, and I certainly don't leverage. But I also spend far more time adopting my business model to include bitcoin as a method of exchange. If everyone spent more time trying to live more with bitcoin, we could develop it much further, instead of just standing on the sidelines hoping to be rich.
848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:45:32 PM

Bears need some pretty heroic selling to move the price down. It may come. But not from any of you lot.

You really need to get some distance from this persecution complex you have. Nobody is manipulating buys or sells. They are simply informed players reacting to the market with reference to the factors acting upon it.

You see ( and pray) that the market will keep going up so that your little bag will make you rich. Everyone else sees it as an organic, complex market of shifts and swings charting the slow adoption of a new way of exchanging value.

849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 12:00:14 PM
Nobody sells on the way down unless they're retarded.

Or trade professionally in the financial services market.



Hodlers and permabulls giving trading recommendations...

 Roll Eyes

...it's always hodl...it's always buy now.

Those who do not possess the capacity to think for themselves must rely on mantras. It dulls the pain of an existence they don't quite understand...  Smiley Smiley

850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 09:46:36 AM
Nobody sells on the way down unless they're retarded.

Or trade professionally in the financial services market.

851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 09:34:15 AM

He is just hurt because once he was, like, a gazzillionaire. And he watched, sitting in front of his computer, 40oz in hand,  as it all disappeared because "HODL"...


If you sold on Tuesday at 295, you could now buy back at 280.  A nice 5%* windfall.

But thats retarded, right?  Assholes, right?


* Your mileage will vary
852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2015, 10:01:23 PM

I see my bitcoin net worth go up/down ~$3K for every $10 btc price swing.  Doesn't faze me a bit, but the silly n00bs who are afraid to HODL a single btc and are just looking to make a few bucks to buy the latest cheap trinket (that they'll forget about in 6 months) would be freaking out.  They are the true weak hands.

And I'm still buying when I can, without any fear.

To create real wealth, you must have a long term vision and balls of steel.

Oh please, spare us the bs. Your a bigger bag holder than Inca!!!  What did you buy at? 500? 600?   Grin Grin Grin

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853  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!) on: July 30, 2015, 05:06:20 PM
Glad to hear that you came out the better party in this.

I cant begin to imagine the stress you were put under, but I get the impression that you have sufficient strength of character to weather it, and prevail.

It is deeply disturbing to realise that we live in societies where our governments feel the need (indeed the right) to intimidate citizens in order to ensure their compliance.

Compliance with laws that favour a small, wealthy and powerful elite.

854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2015, 03:03:17 PM
Man, I'd be delighted to get some cheap(er) coins at $250! But alas, the price stays consistently above $280.
PS: the FUD trolls are getting less ambitious by the day! That is, if they show up at all. Whatever happened to that guy that said there would be double-digit bitcoin on the way!? Oh, well.

God love the hopium trolls. "I dont care how much it is!! I wanna buy it, because 2.1 million coins!  Because anonymous!!  Because I've got beans n' ammo in my basement!!

 Grin Grin Grin
855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2015, 02:29:18 PM

.. me i am be on a boat.


Boats no good unless you have an island too.  Grin
856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
700 coin ask wall sat on 286. Someone trying to keep the price down.

Or it could just be....  people selling bitcoin?
Maybe after seeing some gains lately and want to crystalise them?
Or maybe they spotted a good opportunity on another market and want to jump on it?

Nah, I'm just f**kin with ya - you are right  Grin. Conspiracy theory is sooooooo much more fun and relevent.
857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
What is this up trend due to?

When it was the the Greek problem it was logic,but now?
Bitcoin has many advantages compared to fiat money. Why isn't that logic enough for you?

Waiting 10-30mins for conformation is not an advantage in the daily use...

SEPA transfer takes a day where I live and paypal / visa could transact BTC just fine through their network if they wanted to.


Visa/Paypal what now?  Huh  I thought we were trying to drive these money grabbing corporates into the sea?   Grin Grin

confirmation times are only an issue for small 'instant' payments. Its not insurmountable, but something that will come with maturity.

858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2015, 10:52:18 PM

But we will be back to 230 by Friday.

I see the bears are shorting again here at 300. It is basically a last stand for them.

Any appreciable buying now will eviscerate the remaining 10,666 shorts on finex.

Place your bets!

If the bears don't understand or care to learn about the context of the market compared to its prior actions--that is, how the last six months has been coiling the spring of this rally--they deserve to lose money.

I do wonder if they believe the crap they spew.

I only believe you, inca..   Grin Grin Grin   

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859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2015, 10:44:37 PM
Beijing market is in meltdown, so expect some temporary gains in Bitcoin. Next few hours will be interesting.

But we will be back to 230 by Friday.

If that is the case you should be more than happy to take 10 bucks over your spot price then, after all, giving you 10 dollar profit.

More profitable to sell at 290 and buy them back at the lower price. If you are a hoddler, then you may not get that.

What this holder doesn't get is how you can be so sure it's going to be appreciably lower on Friday, let alone all the way down to $230.

Sounds like a typical beartard pipe dream.

Well, on balance, you are right - 'appreciably lower' would have been a better term than '230'. But '230' gets a better reaction!!

Its just a hunch - I think a lot of the recent gains have come from Asian money hedging their stock market woes. I think when the dust settles on Thursday, there will be a lot of bargain hunting on the Beijing market, pulling money out of the bitcoin markets.
860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
Beijing market is in meltdown, so expect some temporary gains in Bitcoin. Next few hours will be interesting.

But we will be back to 230 by Friday.

If that is the case you should be more than happy to take 10 bucks over your spot price then, after all, giving you 10 dollar profit.

More profitable to sell at 290 and buy them back at the lower price. If you are a hoddler, then you may not get that.
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