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841  Economy / Economics / Re: Money as a store of value... on: May 13, 2023, 10:53:00 PM
Now all countries have used money as a legal means of transaction, and money has indeed been relied on as a stable store of value, and now everything we need must use money as a means of payment, but in the past there was barter between one item and another and this was already common among the public because at that time there was no special provision from the government in using a certain currency to get an item, And I believe money will continue to be a store of value for the foreseeable future.
Times have changed so much that there is no need to talk about bartering goods for goods that happened in the past before money existed. Because it has become history in this world where before there was money exchange and trade also happened through one item with another.

And this is actually not much different and almost the same as we exchange coins for other coins in an all-digital market at this time. So now is the era when money must be seen as an important tool that can be used to measure the price of goods, store the value of assets and buy the things we need.
842  Economy / Speculation / Re: The price of bitcoin is not rising soon!. on: May 13, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
Many people think that bitcoin is an instant way to success and wealth, it's only natural if someone tells a story of success when selling a car or house to invest in bitcoin and then there is a fantastic increase so that they get profits of up to hundreds of percent in less than a year, but we must know that many people who are stressed about losing their car or house to buy bitcoins as the price keeps dropping.
The question is, who has such an opinion now? And I just think that it's only you who have thoughts like that, not anyone else. Because what I see is that everyone always considers the risks before investing and I rarely find people who are willing to sell their cars and houses when they want to invest. Because they know that they have to work hard to get cars and houses, so they won't immediately sell them for investment capital if they can do it in a better way.
843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 13, 2023, 01:46:49 PM
The Lazio team performed exceptionally well in the match. Lazio performed much better than the opposition in the match but the match ended in a draw. Lazio's performance should have won the match, but Lazio failed to win the match.
If Lazio still fails to win with a performance that you say is quite good, that means that Lazio must perform much better in the next match so that they can win another match in the remainder of this season. Now I'm looking at Atalanta who are playing at home to Salernitana with temporary conditions that no one has scored a goal even though the game is almost half-time. I hope Atalanta can win the match so that competition in the standings table will continue for them.
844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 13, 2023, 01:34:35 PM
Leed was really so good in their performance in the beginning of the game, after they scored Newcastle they had opportunity of scoring another goal but they missed it.i expect Newcastle to defeat leads easily but Leeds are really pressing hard on Newcastle.  The game may end up in draws because it is tough with Newcastle.
The match ended in a draw as Newcastle were able to take advantage of two penalties to score two goals in this game. But I regretted Leeds United more for not being able to score a penalty in the 28th minute, even if only Leeds United were able to score a penalty in that minute. Of course Leeds United will have full points in this match, but it would be a shame if today Leeds United had to share points with Newcastle at Elland Road.
845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 13, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
The pole position doesn't surprise me with Bagnaia, if he doesn't make a mistake this season he will dominate in MotoGP like Verstappen in Formula 1. Also a very good performance from Marc Marquez with the second starting position but what I haven't found out yet was the time with the Honda or the new Kalex chassis?

With Miller in 4th and the new start device from KTM, it's definitely a race to be reckoned with.
The race will probably be very fierce, especially in the Sprint Race which will start soon so everyone will see how they all compete for first place in the Sprint Race. And judging from the race pace, I think Bagnaia and Marini are both good, as well as Marquez who wasn't too bad in his comeback this time, but I'm still doubtful about Marquez's good results in today's sprint race. Now let's watch the Sprint Race for a bit to see how the race might turn out to be fierce.
846  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC Silver and Gold on: May 12, 2023, 10:10:54 AM
If we have large finances then it's time to save large amounts of gold, no doubt that gold is the safest type of investment compared to others, besides that the increase in gold prices can exceed inflation so investing gold is the best and safest choice compared to others. other.
I think if someone wants to save gold or wants to invest through gold, they don't have to have a large amount of money because gold can also be purchased in small quantities or according to the ability of each person who wants to save it. This means that everyone can save gold by buying it little by little through each other's hard-earned money at any time, because physical gold is also very nice to have even though once purchased it must provide the safest place to store it.
847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is going down. on: May 12, 2023, 09:55:34 AM
It's normal when bitcoin goes down, tomorrow or next week the price will come back again, the decentralized system does make the price completely dependent on the market, when the price goes down the best thing is to buy a lot so that we get big profits when the price goes up again.
In general, no one knows whether tomorrow or next week the price of Bitcoin will rise again, because when the price of Bitcoin completely depends on market conditions, it means that the price of Bitcoin is always determined by the number of enthusiasts who want to buy it in large quantities. Because there are also Bitcoin enthusiasts who have not been able to buy more even though in declining conditions, Bitcoin market conditions will often change according to the attractiveness of people entering the market to buy Bitcoin.
848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 12, 2023, 08:46:49 AM
Ducati has always been a bike that had the most speed in straights and I don't think the small Le Mans circuit in which the race will take place will have a lot of straights like the big one which is about 3.45 seconds and has a lot of straights so spectacle is most likely guaranteed.We also need here to see some comeback from Bagnaia as he has made a couple of mistakes which can make him get out of the title fight if he continues with the same performance although I still think he is the most favored title contender while I also hope to see a great rider like Marquez what he can do on this track.

For this season, Bagnaia generally hasn't made many mistakes and Bagnaia's points have also been at the top of the temporary standings after winning at the Jerez Grandprix and also taking the podium at the Jerez Grandprix Sprint Race. This means that the Ducati motorbike that Bagnaia is riding this season is a complete package from the Ducati factory so that the motorbike must be considered as his newest motorbike this season.

As for Marquez, who was able to make a comeback to the race which coincided with the race at Le Mans, I'm not sure that he will get good results right away because he has just recovered from his injury. In addition, the Honda factory this season still looks slow and weak in terms of motorbike development when compared to other manufacturers, especially with European manufacturers such as Ducati, Aprilia and KTM. And even today the riders from the Honda factory and the Honda satellite team will use the new chassis from Kalex which is allegedly the best chassis from Kalex for Honda.
849  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN BULL MAY BE IN TROUBLE on: May 12, 2023, 08:35:18 AM
This week there was a significant decline because it had dropped by more than 8%, the current price was only around $ 26800 and according to many predictions still had the opportunity to go down again, of course this made us worry because it had the opportunity to repeat the bad trends that is under $ 20k, if the price continues Going down then the best thing I do is to buy more.
It looks like Bitcoin's dismal trend back below $20K isn't going to happen any time soon although the downside is still ongoing this week in Bitcoin. Because one can see the decline that is happening slowly which logically is happening piecemeal so this should also be considered as a support that Bitcoin is still being defended by some people not to fall even deeper like it did through the bad trend last year.
850  Economy / Economics / Re: Success is fundamentally determined by luck, not effort. on: May 12, 2023, 08:12:31 AM
I don't think so, the luck factor is indeed one of the important factors for us to be successful but it doesn't rule out the possibility that we can also be successful without it, the point is if we are diligent in trying to work hard not being lazy staying consistent with what we do I'm sure we can become successful people . because success is only for worthy people

The luck factor is a factor that no one can predict and this factor also very rarely comes twice to the same person in different ways. So the luck factor is another thing that you don't need to think about because the most important thing to think about is to keep trying as hard as possible to find better results and that must really be done regularly and very consistently as you say.

Besides that, success in any case will not come by itself if it is never picked up by trying hard because indeed everyone is always required to work hard at what they want. So it is clear in this case that success is not for the lazy because indeed success is for people who deserve it after trying through their respective hard work.
851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 11, 2023, 11:12:27 AM
Whenever I see the performance of Ac Milan and Inter Milan as champions I think Napoli could have a much better performance than both teams if they didn't lose the chance in the quarter-finals against Ac Milan however they just lost the game because they didn't have their most important player Osimhen, otherwise Napoli could win that game.
I also thought like that before when Napoli had not been eliminated, but it happened very naturally for Napoli because in the first leg Napoli could not play their mainstay player against AC Milan, namely Osimhen. So, now the story is different where everyone has to see how AC Milan can give their best performance against Inter Milan in the second leg later.

Before Napoli against Inter, they will fight Monza first, and I'm sure Napoli will take advantage of Monza to win by scoring lots of goals because, so far, Napoli's matches have often ended in a draw, so the points they got are not as many as last week. Napoli must improve their performance to win every match.
If what you say is for the Serie A competition, Napoli no longer need to win the remaining matches that are still in Serie A because Napoli have won Serie A this season. But it would be much better if in the remaining four matches this season Napoli can get full points again so they can prove themselves to be the best this season.
852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 11, 2023, 10:56:14 AM
I can't say if Inter Milan played better than Ac Milan or not because the game in the first minutes was really unexpecting and Inter Milan scored two goals while Ac Milan was shocked because the performance of them but regardless of these first minutes I think both teams had a good and close performance.
From the level of possession, it is very clear that both of them are performing well, but Inter Milan has a better advantage than AC Milan because they were able to score early in the first half of the match. And from the results of the first leg, at least Inter Milan will have the capital when facing the second leg match which will take place at their own cage later, although I hope AC Milan can provide a more fierce resistance when playing at home to Inter Milan.
853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 11, 2023, 10:39:13 AM
Le Mans one of the most beautiful tracks when it is for MotoGP racing,completely different when it is car racing as the track is very narrow and technical not permitting much to cars but to MotoGP immediately brought back memories to me in the epic fights with Rossi vs Biaggi,Rossi vs Lorenzo many many years ago from now.I think the riders are still good enough the ones taking part in such race and I think it should a be a very beautiful race to enjoy on TV especially after seeing such boring races in F1 completely dominated by Redbull racing,I believe the race of Le Mans to be much different than those and show some good competition between the riders.
It is very logical for what you say because Le Mans has always presented very good races for MotoGP, including when Valentino Rossi competed with Maverick Vinales when they were both at Yamaha. But for the last two seasons I have started to see the dominance of Ducati which is very extraordinary although sometimes other manufacturers start to surprise unexpectedly like the KTM factory did in the previous race at the Jerez circuit. But for this race, I hope that the host riders can make better domination so that the competition becomes more exciting.
854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bear Market Reaches $27605 - Will the Downtrend Continue?" on: May 11, 2023, 10:29:58 AM
Unfortunately until now the price has not yet headed for recovery, when it was March and the price touched $ 30k of course it was a great hope that the market would recover soon, unfortunately something unexpected happened because many were profit taking, those who bought when the price was below $ 20k could sell and get profit more than 30%.
If you think about it, this is also a very reasonable thing because those who bought in the past certainly expected more profits so that when the time came they sold to take profits. But what you also need to know besides that is that right now the price of Bitcoin is still at a very reasonable price because it is not too far from the high price in March. And the possibility of reaching more than March is still very possible if there is a further increase that is better than March this month in Bitcoin.
855  Economy / Economics / Re: Keeping money and keeping bitcoins? are they similar? on: May 11, 2023, 10:05:09 AM
Anyone who can save money can actually save whatever they have despite anything but those who hardly save money can not save bitcoin even though they planned to store it for about 2 years or more. The reason most people do not save bitcoin is that they only wanted to make instant gain and take a leave, while some may be one problem and the other.

Those who still wish to keep Bitcoins for two years or more while they have no other savings in their lives or other income in their lives, it will be difficult to do so because they will always exchange Bitcoins for fiat when they get Bitcoins in any way. Because everyone cannot hold back the consumption of basic needs that they must always fulfill, so it will be difficult for them to carry out the storage plan.

Whereas those who have difficulty saving money in their lives are still not necessarily difficult to save Bitcoin because maybe they have to always use their money so as not to sacrifice the Bitcoin they have stored properly in their wallet. So not all of them also those who have difficulty saving money can find it difficult to save Bitcoin, because they remember the unstoppable need so that the money they have will always be used for life's needs.
856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 10, 2023, 09:15:32 AM
After Juventus managed to be in second place with the victory they got because of their enthusiasm that finally got them to win, then came the bad news that Juventus would be investigated again, so this would disturb the mentality of the players and it would likely be difficult to get another win. Hopefully, the Juventus players will not be discouraged and will continue to play well and be able to win every game they participate in.
All teams will make the most of the rest of this season so well that they will all try to win in these remaining matches including the Juventus team. So there is no reason for the Juventus players to be discouraged by this because they can still try to win for the rest of the season to get a few more points. Because the target of Juventus itself is to end the season in the UCL zone so they can enter the Champions League next season.
857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 10, 2023, 08:54:06 AM
Manchester City dominated early on against Real Madrid.  Real Madrid failed to keep possession early on. Manchester City was attacking one after another and Real Madrid goalkeeper Courtois was resisting those attacks alone. Had he not made several saves, Real Madrid would have fallen behind Manchester City a long time ago. Karim Benzema had a few chances that could have turned the match in favor of Real Madrid. We expected a slightly better performance from Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium.
Real Madrid's match at the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium in the Champions League competition has ended with Manchester City and now Real Madrid must be able to prepare themselves again from now on for more mature preparations when they return to face Manchester City in the Champions League semi-final second leg which will take place at the Etihad Stadium, but before that Real Madrid must first return to its own domestic league because they have to face Getafe at the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium as well.
858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 10, 2023, 08:33:36 AM
The Honda factory team has registered their flagship rider (Marc Marquez) to race at the French MotoGP this week which will take place at the Le Mans circuit. Apart from that, the sanctions he previously received were also abolished after the Honda manufacturer made an appeal with the race organizers, meaning that Marc Marquez could join the race again without being burdened with sanctions such as the Long Laps Penalty. Hopefully there will be more exciting races this week at Le Mans France.
859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good time to invest in BTC? on: May 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
I think now is the right time to buy because the price is still cheap at around $28k, many predict that this year the price will set a new price record so by buying now we will easily get 200% profit. don't just keep asking, take real action, namely buying before tomorrow or next week the price skyrockets.
Now asking is also an important thing, because being embarrassed to ask will also go astray on the road mate. Getting 200% profit is not as easy as you say, because it always takes time and process. So don't speculate excessively by forecasting prices for next week and also don't forbid other people from asking about all things because any action is the right of each person when they want to do it. And it seems you also need to see those who are disappointed after buying without asking the experienced.
860  Economy / Economics / Re: Have a Income? Invest in Crypto or Not? Let's think realistically on: May 10, 2023, 08:08:19 AM
These risks must be faced and we cannot completely avoid them,
especially investing in top coins i think it is the best choice for long term investment,
it will be profitable even though it is also not easy because it takes patience.
Not all risks have to be faced, because everyone needs to see and study them first before deciding to face certain risks. Including risks when investing in top coins like Bitcoin, so learn first before dealing with it because there are so many people who are disappointed when they face risks that they still don't understand in terms of investment. It's not only about the top assets or coins, but also about how to understand them well and deal with them very wisely.
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