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8401  Economy / Economics / Re: Some facts about the global debt... on: June 29, 2018, 11:53:00 AM
Global debt reached more than $ 233 trillion. Very high in terms of what we see, according to IIF analysts, this huge debt could curb interest rate hikes by central banks due to concerns about the ability of banks to pay off their debts. business and government.
Really high and I can imagine the effect this is going to have on global economy as time goes on. Anyone who is actually complaining about bitcoin as a bubble or the value as a bubble have not really gotten to know that the fiat system has been the greatest bubble ever and with the way things are going, this would be a terrible outcome for the economy.

It is just surprising that these entire so called financial experts know all these things, but they are still so fast when it comes to condemning bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general. I guess they have a huge part to play anyway in the fiat bubble.
8402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sooo.. Ethereum Classic is getting added to coinbase! Woot Woot! :-) on: June 29, 2018, 10:31:54 AM
Kind of there wasn't - it's very positive news to ETC. In the near future we have to see the good growth of this coin, but whether it will meet our expectations, this moment is known to nobody. I consider that each trader in a portfolio has to have ETC because єто very perspective token from which many have already earned.

I personally sold everything and went all in on ETC Wink
You got to be kidding me! As much as ETC shows sign that could be bullish in nature, which is not actually a very good move as far as I am concerned putting all your eggs in one basket as you may get burned if things go awry generally with the market as a whole.
Yes, ETC really is looking good, a lot of good things coming, the listing on coinbase may just be one of them, but I am sure this is one market set for a bull run which I would not be surprised to see hit new all-time highs before the end of this year.
8403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which is the best altcoin to invest upon right now? on: June 29, 2018, 08:58:45 AM
help me friends, please give your best answer.

You can get a bulk of mtc. And probably shivom and bobs too
They are gonna be on the uptrend very Soon
In most cases I would advise to get involve in  ltc as well I believe it’s gonna make a lot of sense soon

Elf session has gone and probably we are gonna have to do your own research about bobs and shivom thoroughly
They are both worth investing
I would not actually be holding MTC at this point in time as it has chances of hitting some corrective levels.
I may be wrong, but it has had some huge run upwards for some while now and I would rather be patient to get at a very good value in its bottom than ending up to pick the top at this moment.

There are other good coins and tokens which are in fact trading far lower than their ICO value due to the current trend in the market and anyone picking this one’s right now will surely not miss the good profit in the long run.
8404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs. Altcoins on: June 29, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
And what to oppose here, while there is a speculative connection between bitcoin and altcoyins.
Bitcoin is the main currency for investing in altcoins. When traders want to close their positions, they sell altcoins in exchange for bitcoin. Accordingly, the demand for altcoyne fueled interest in Bitcoin. At the same time, many investors store their savings in bitcoin instead of exchanging for fiat, in order to quickly re-establish the right positions in the market when opportunities arise.
Yeah, a lot of it depends on timing anyway. There is really more like a period for altcoin and a period for bitcoin and most times, if you can really get it right, you will simply be making a lot of good decision in the market as to which to invest at a particular point in time. One thing I have learned however is to stay in fiat when bitcoin is in a downtrend, buy back bitcoin and engage alts when bitcoin is in consolidation or slow move, as altcoins get to increase hugely during this period and get out of alts immediately if bitcoin starts showing sign of further downtrend or a bull run.
8405  Economy / Speculation / Re: 4900 by late August on: June 29, 2018, 07:51:07 AM
You have actually made some interesting and a very moderate prediction and a very reasonable one, so I applaud you for that. Truly, the current bear market is not out yet, but I am looking forward to see how early July is actually going to be playing out.

With the volume dropping on the sell side, and nothing serious about any reversal yet, we may actually end up seeing the possibility of $4900 very soon, with the likelihood of a quick reversal which I presume will be for the short term and nothing so special but at least will still give us some breathing space to play with the market before we see the last leg of possible bear phase which could set us as low as $3000 before the year runs out and possible consolidation from there.
8406  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prices are falling! on: June 29, 2018, 06:31:56 AM
I can say it was positive for bitcoin with this kinda situation it always negative, but the things that you need to do is believe is we need to past this challenge, we need to be patience as a bitcoiners. The low prices doesn't mean you need to be surrender.
Anyone who is actually seeing this trend as a negativity is simply someone who is just here thinking it is a means to get rich overnight and not because he or she wants to be a part of the great future.

The fact that we are in a downtrend now does not mean it is the end of the market as there would still be a lot of room for growth when the whole market has totally bottomed out and nothing much to sell anymore. What is important now is to start stashing up and that is the sweet thing as we are getting at a mouthwatering value compared to last year ending.
8407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tell about Bitcoin gambling site and your opinion & experience on: June 29, 2018, 05:56:53 AM
only 1 time i was play on BTC at one of most popular casinos!
1 time = lose 1, 45 BTC)

be serious.? where do you play and what games you play so you can spend so much btc? can you prove all your chats? by showing proof of transaction from the fund you send ..?
I doubt if that is true. How can someone play just once and dash out such a huge amount in just a single loss without blinking an eye to consider what he was about to do. I am not sure there would be anyone who can be that wasteful or nonchalant about things if he is indeed not lying, which I want to believe he actually is and only if he can come here to prove it like you have said.

I am a fan of sport betting anyway as that is the closest I am to gambling at all, and I have always been using Nitrogen for a very long time.
8408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is best practice for gambling?? on: June 28, 2018, 05:42:08 PM
May anyone tell me what is the best practice for gambling with little investment? I have no so much experiance about it.Any suggestion or advice.
Not to gamble at all (anymore) is the best worked for me.

What is the legal way for earn bitcoin? Any suggestion or advice.
If you are looking to earn bitcoin, you can start by rendering a service based on the skills you have as there is no better way than that. Any other way, you may end up losing your money.

Another best way is trading, but without knowledge you will not be different from you gambling anyway since you will be trading with no strategy and you will need a lot of patience to at least be able to do it well and right. There are also so many other ways you can do so even on this forum and you can hit the beginners forum to see where you can fit in.
8409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling in the crypto market on: June 28, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
Yes crypto and gambling are two things that are match together, there are a lot of countries that forbid gambling online so it makes people to difficult to gamble, even some of the online gambling need to submit document and identity, but since the crypto arrived everything is different, with the anonymity, easy withdrawal and deposit and avaliable in every countries, many people can gamble in yheir home comfortably without need to reveal their identity
I agree.Gambling with cryptocurrency will be more observed as years goes by because as cryptocurrency will be more popular,more number of gamblers will be  find it more convenient too to gamble with crypto since their own identities remain anonymous and private unlike gambling with fiat currency.
I think in today’s world almost all online gamblers use crypto for their gambling, because there is no other currency which can be used in online gambling. Both need internet and when you want to play from your home you will have to use crypto for gambling. Now many traditional casinos also start accepting crypto because they know the importance of crypto.
Who would even not want to as a gambler as long as it is online ?
Gone are the days when people will be gambling online trying to use their banks details and funds to gamble with, but cryptocurrency on the other hand has brought some level of anonymity into the gambling space which makes the experience of getting paid your winnings easily and fast makes a lot of sense without having to consider the government trying to poke nose into everything you do.
8410  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could the Bitcoin price by the end of 2018 only 4000$ - 6000$? on: June 28, 2018, 03:38:25 PM
I think $4,000 is really possible. I'm glad I moved my all fiat exposure out last December together with some good gains.
Everything I have in crypto now is profit but it still sucks to see your profit go down the drain.
It is a whole lot possible and even though it may not happen immediately, as there could still be a small rally upward around $5000 in coming days or weeks, but that would still not stop it from trying to test downward. However, this would be a great opportunity for anyone who is smart as this is actually a way to just accumulate the more for the future which I am pretty sure is going to be awesome. It is a good thing to see that we can at least get to buy low after the huge rally we had last year.
8411  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What should I learn to be a professional trader? on: June 28, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
I want to learn about being professional trader. I want to search and read some articles but I don't know whatelse.
What I read so far is about how to read candlestick. And I learn how to read indicator but I just learn it by myself.
So what articles to read? If you have some suggestion, please share here. I don't ask for the articles to read, I just ask for some clue what to learn

Crypto trading is really difficult compared to a usual trading outside the crypto world. And being a crypto trader really needs a lot of patients and analysis on its market, because of the high volatility of its market that could be so hard for anyone to predict the movement of its price. And here's a link of a thread that contains of some crypto trading tips that might help you with your trading journey https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3326310.0 you can freely visit that thread for more information.
A whole lot difficult as there is always a lot to learn every single day and one thing a lot of people usually do not always realize is that for a start you are really going to be making some silly mistake even after learning since learning is a gradual process anyway.

Most of the learning keeps coming from the experience you end up having and that is how you start getting better and better to the point of being good at what you do and as you keep getting better and learning more, there are some mistakes you never will just see yourself make anymore.
8412  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading, emotions and your fine selves on: June 28, 2018, 08:27:36 AM
For the current market development is unpredictable, because the average Alt prices fall, I think we are patiently waiting for higher price increases, so we will generate a lot of profits at high prices.
No one should ever blame themselves if they ever let emotion get the best part of them in trading but the thing is to always learn from the outcome of such emotions and make better decisions next time. After learning a lot about trading and I thought I was ready to go, emotion was just the first problem I had, but over time, I got used to the idea of just sticking to what I know and not what I feel.

When I feel the signal to get out is there, I do with a stop loss or alarm believing the market can still change course, and same applies to when the market is going up as well. We cannot always be right 100% of the time, but knowing how to play one's card without emotion helps a whole lot.
8413  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin in 10K by the end of 2019 on: June 27, 2018, 07:28:13 PM
Easy for you. You must have a few thousand Satoshi in your possession. But there are people who have invested a lot of money in bitcoins. They can't stay calm when they lose a few thousand dollars every day. It seems to me that they have no patience and they sell large assets. This stimulates the fall in prices.
What is not so easy there ? Anyone who is already at loss does not have any other choice than to still stay calm since not staying calm does not solve any problem anyway. The only thing to do now is to at least be able to find a way to do things right by trying to look forward to the bottom to buy a lot more when the market looks extremely cheap because it will and that is the only way they will be able to at least compensate for what they have bought at the top. They should know better before investing how volatile the market is and that blame is certainly not on any one.
8414  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will probably reach 4500-5000, following seasonality pattern. on: June 27, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
I believe we are witnessing capitulation and the bears have the control now, and it might be followed by another long movement of nothing for two years until the next halving. Kwukduck might be right in his $3,500 target to buy back after all. Hahaha.
Kwukduck has always been bearish all his life anyway but seems this prediction would come to fruition as things are going! I would not be surprised that around $5000 is when we are going to be having some little bounce and that would actually help the general altcoin market as well during this time in their pump and dump spree and a lot of them hitting new ATH.

The market for bitcoin will still go a lot lower than it is right now and I am sure looking forward to play around with that and buy more at the dip. However, asides comparing previous years, this was imminent anyway.
8415  Economy / Speculation / Re: Depressed volatility driving BTC price down? on: June 27, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
I think this is the fact. The price is volatile but it is continuously and this has made the investors depressed enough and this is talking upon the market.
Any investor that is depressed right now apparently did not even take time to understand the market before even entering at all. The market is highly volatile and you really want to know how to make certain decisions before you end up panicking or depressed for no reason.

The market will not always keep moving up and for every reason, the downtrend was inevitable since nothing simply drove the price upward apart from speculation and manipulation but the market will recover at its own time, and rather than being worried, it is best to take advantage of accumulating at this dips.
8416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, the highest fall in the year 2018 on: June 27, 2018, 08:30:30 AM
Are you now starting to doubt those predictions who are saying that bitcoin will reach $30,000 by the end of the year? There's more to come for this year and we're just half of it and we are starting to get into 3rd quarter and if there will be no action seen on that quarter, there is still the last hope which is the last quarter for this year. We are in part of the history where bitcoin has fall that much and if you do believe those predictions, there's nothing wrong with it as I do believe about $25,000-$30,000 by the end.
Anyone with common sense would think that Bitcoin won't even surpass 15k$ this year.Indeed;in my opinion Bitcoin will end this year playing between 5000$ and 10000$.Simply because who the heck would like to push the  price now.Investors are demotivated (From 20k to 6k it's really scary),Bitcoin has to rebuild trust among it's supporters and ofcourse it will take time.
Absolutely what I believe would end up happening. We are thinking too far to imagine the possibility of hitting even past the previous ATH or getting close to it. Hopefully, we will get to definitely see this happen maybe next year, but definitely not this one.

As far as I am concerned, as it is now, the bears are in charge and the possibility of hitting huge low is still there and after that, it is definite we are going to be consolidating for a while which will give room for a lot of accumulation during this period before we can even start thinking of any serious move upward.
8417  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession and Bitcoin on: June 27, 2018, 07:45:58 AM
Do you think bitcoin will be in recession and do you think we are in a downturn, bitcoin is having balanced and almost stable days because of the price difference it has in July few
If you actually took time to read what he posted, I am sure you will find out he was talking about bitcoin being used as a safe haven during the period of recession and not bitcoin being in recession as you have mentioned.

Yes of course, bitcoin in the long run I believe will be a safe asset to store value during global economic meltdowns and recessions and this would mean a lot for this space and the early holders anyway. It is already considered as a digital asset, although volatile but that volatility will change anyway in the phase of huge global adoption.
8418  Economy / Economics / Re: When the government forbids cryptocurrency on: June 27, 2018, 06:53:20 AM
With this inconsistent decision, I assume that they have a plan to make their own crypto coins, which will surely be firmly supported by their peers (government). Unfortunately, you did not mention your country name.
Probably, and would want to make sure they instill it on the citizens. How wonder how a country that is solely about its own interest develop when all the government cares about is how to just keep stashing and looting in every possible means and would likely not want to even give the citizens any possible power even though they still get to benefit from it.

Would have been better if OP stated such a country, but I do not see how this should affect anybody who is smart enough. A single country should not limit anyone from being a part of the decentralized space, and the worst I will rather do is migrate out of the shit hole.
8419  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is going down on: June 26, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
I guess it's already stopped yesterday at $5800ish.

Today it shows a great support at $6200
That is not a support but it is actually testing the resistance around $6,250 with not much of a volume to pass through and that shows the possibility of coming a bit lower again before we can get to see anything serious after this. I am envisaging towards $5k but it could be a bit lower or higher but time will definitely tell.

Fortunately, I do not expect serious going down in the short term until we get to hit this phase. Let's just see how things will end up turning out to be from here. I keep speculating about new ATH within this 2018. I guess market may start moving toward that from now onward also.
8420  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BTC and PSYCHOLOGY on: June 26, 2018, 05:50:52 PM
The word there for an investor like you said, is being strategic.
You can never get the best from this market without being strategic and where a lot of people miss it is because they do not get to learn as much as they can before even entering the space at all and that makes it very hard for them to make any quality decision at all to their own advantage.

Trading and particularly bitcoin kind of highly volatile market trading will be profitable only when you should be investing and being patient enough to wait for the profit just like any other market. Making here and there some decisions randomly by losing patients will not help any trader usually.
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