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8421  Economy / Economics / Re: Which cryptocurrency should I invest in, in 2018? Why? on: June 18, 2018, 06:40:46 AM
The cryptocurrency that I will invest in 2018 is the ethereum altcoins because I see in ethereum coin , the good benefits of ethereum and functions and use of ethereum in different sites and in the market of exchange, It is also a promising altcoin as I believe in it.
Well, even if you are going to be investing in tokens, it is very necessary to be careful which one you are investing in and why you are picking them. There are for sure a lot of tokens though that will end up doing greatly well and that for sure is going to be the most in my portfolio. Mostly the ones that have good prospects, great product, possibility of huge increase in growth, and presently below ICO price. The idea for me is to make it an easy hold.
8422  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why are people afraid to invest in cryptocurrency? on: June 16, 2018, 11:57:24 AM
There are a lot of reasons why it happens. Let us be honest and do not forget that any crypto coin is a risky asset it is not a bank deposit. Moreover to invest in any crypto coin a person need to have some knowledge and be are familiar with modern technologies like internet and so on. Also a person need to have knowledge about crypto market to understand what the price of a coin is attractive to buy. And final reason why much people do not invest in crypto because there are much fraud.  
It is just very unfortunate that a bunch of people in the space really do not get the fact that it is highly volatile but they instead focus more on short term gains or profit thinking it is a way to get rich quickly. However, things do not simply work that way and the earlier they started knowing that they should focus more on the long term than the short term, the better for them.

Only after they do understand, they will always see dips as an opportunity to invest rather than joining FOMO 100% of the time. I believe rest of people will start adopting bitcoins when bitcoin will be scaling new peaks. It had happened in the past hence it will happen again and again too. Bitcoin will hit new peak and then some down trend will follow. When people continuously watching this similar trend then they will not be afraid all the times.
8423  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to get rid of emotions when trading on: June 16, 2018, 10:34:10 AM
Akcepting loss is also important. Knowing that in trading nothing is certain. There is not a single trader that have 100% profitable trades. Thats why when you are trader you should consider your trading as a work and lost trades as a money spend on fuel to get to work. That will help you get over it without emotions, skip loosing trades and move on to next trade because you can do everyfing correct, made best analysis but still fail. Thats how it works.
Accepting loss as quickly as possible based on your strategy is always one thing to always know how to do in trading and that would help a trader hugely. That is where the main challenge of any new trader has always been most of the time even after learning and they tend to find out that if they had made decisions to stop loss at where they should have based on their knowledge without any emotion, they will do better.

It is normal but that is where experience now gradually comes in as one gets better making decisions without any form of emotion in the long run.
8424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Billionaire Investor Tim Draper Explains Why Bitcoin Will Hit $250,000 in 2022 on: June 16, 2018, 08:35:17 AM
Stop focusing on the price for at least 15 minutes; price doesn’t matter if Bitcoin does not have a future.
If you have some experience, create a site that supports Bitcoin or helps people around you learning blockchain, this is who will make price Hit $250,000 in 2022.
This talk is pure propaganda."It does not benefit you to listen to him"
One of the reasons why bitcoin has turned hugely to a speculative asset is this reason you have mentioned. We are totally forgetting about the development of bitcoin as currency and how this can become a reality and all we keep doing every day is focus on price like you have said every minute trying to expect when we are to moon or buy a lambo and all sort of things. This mentality will not help but as long as we see real life usage, it would usher in real demand, less manipulation or a huge market growth.

But to achieve the "final goal" of bitcoin for that it was actally created, we must need bitcoin to be an attractive one to adopt it. For that $250k price level alone will not be enough. We need bitcoin's value in millions. Most people who are predicting bitcoin's value are turning as an absolute right one over time but most of them do fail with time frame.

I believe bitcoin may touch $250k levels within 2020 and by the year of 2022 it must be having value in million dollars. I may sound unrealistic but you all may need to thank me by the end of 2022 year. Let's all watch and understand the power of bitcoin in real time.
8425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price prediction for june end on: June 15, 2018, 04:57:32 PM
with the decline in volume I would say the traders are no longer buying bitcoin nor selling it. most of them are staying out of this mess that was created by the constant dump by the whale manipulations. that means you can't really predict the price because everyone is out for now.
we need some solid signals for the money to come back to the market and trust it again otherwise we will be stuck here because there is no money to buy it up and there is no bitcoin to be sold so neither rise nor drop is going to be easy for the time being even if it is a short one.
The whale manipulation is actually a very terrible one for the market and one I would call utter stupidity because no trader simply likes a manipulated market and I wish there could even just be a gang up against them in a way that would make them lose all they have but whichever way, over the years, they have gained so much anyway to even consider anything as a loss.

Nothing is predictable in this market, and like you have said, most traders are out of the market until there is a clear sign of an upward movement which makes you totally right as who would want to gamble a market like this in the first place where TA and FA has even turned out to be Zero.
8426  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling items online for Bitcoin or crypto on: June 15, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
What you initiate at present in small scale will get you good income long term as the future is gonna completely functional over the blockchain technology which is the key for our cryptocurrency.
The main goal is to have bitcoin being used as a currency and we really need to find a way to push that out there and with this kind of development, it is sure going to be a pretty good one to look out for, in any case as it may. I believe over time, people will get to start making use of the cryptocurrency world as it guarantees easy payment and as we keep seeing this, we will also sure get to see the space evolving the more into a better one.

I look everyday for stuff on craigslist now that they have a "cryptocurrency ok" button. Bought a kayak this weekend.   
Nice to see craigslist actually integrating cryptocurrency on the platform and it is a good way to go. I am sure going to be doing some transactions as well in the coming weeks. Let’s keep it coming as we see the movement of bitcoin or cryptocurrency into the mainstream in the long run. Gradually, seeing things like this would actually help the space to develop in a lot of ways.
8427  Economy / Speculation / Re: What started this bear trend? on: June 15, 2018, 11:21:58 AM
Bitcoin bear market is due to the market cycle after serious of pump market consolidating for previous high and this is the nature of market there will be sudden high in prices and sudden low
Yes, any market movement that was not warranted for most especially when it is an upward movement that was fueled by greed and the fear of missing out, it is normal to see people panic easily when the trend starts changing. The market is generally volatile and it is something I expect people to have gotten used to by now and really nothing anyone can do about it than to either trade the trends or hold until they are making huge profit in the long run.

Always traders' sentiment alone plays the vital role in deciding the trend. After prices got doubled within a 25 days in last November month, everyone was expecting a reversal which might be the first trigger for this bear trend. When we are having the bear trend for more than 6 months, I guess traders will change that sentiment into bull trend. This may happen in coming day.
8428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how long you can stay without gambling? on: June 15, 2018, 04:50:41 AM
i think i can live without gambling it's been 6 months since my last gambling session and i dont get the urge to gamble again it's not a problem for me anymore and its pointless to gamble if you do it to entertain yourself as there are alot of ways to entertain yourself.
You are a person of strong will power that’s why you are able to stay away from gambling. But when this question would be asked from other people, I am damn sure most that majority of the replies that you will get would be saying that I can’t even stay without gambling even for one day because they have got addicted to it and made it a source of income.
Yes, someone who is able to control themselves or does not see gambling as anything that should be enough to pay all attention to, or probably always very busy, it would be so easy for such to consider gambling as fun, and only do it when they have the little chance or probably miss it.

For someone like me, there are actually some time I may just miss gambling and the fun in traditional casinos where this urge feelings will be there just to play around just the same way I would want to go watch movies or swim or do some other activities, but all these when it comes to gambling can actually be months in between.

How long we are staying away from gambling is not a big concern whereas how long we are into our regular life without getting the thoughts about gambling. Because, there will be no meaning of controlling ourselves from gambling but we must have quit gambling heartfully so that even we may get a chance to gamble, we must ignore those moments. I guess when we take resolutions with strong will-power, it may become possible.
8429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Criteria of a good gambler on: June 14, 2018, 07:57:26 PM
1. Knowledge of which games to choose. A good gambler knows which games are stacked massively against him
2. Knowledge of when best to play. When do all the fishes arrive, when to leave a table when a pro arrives.
3. When to stop, and how much to play with. Few people actually have these skills, which leads to a lot of debt.
this is a must to learn from gambling, I think this is the basis on which we can become a pro player in gambling, because all knowledge about gambling will always we learn as long as we still do gambling. hopefully we all fall into the category of pro gamblers
Do not deceive yourself. There is no pro in gambling and the only thing you can be a pro at is your decision making when it comes to gambling. Everything still balls down to luck no matter how smart you want to play it. Smart gamblers understand this and they do not get overwhelm by any strategy they may think they have and always set limits for themselves and that makes them not to lose it all while gambling. That number 3 of his is actually the point that should be coming first for a lot of gamblers.

The easiest criteria for becoming a good gambler is being a smart gambler. Being smart will possible over time and experience whereas we never bother those in gambling usually.
I do not see that smart gamblers are good gamblers. Smart gamblers are who may be avoiding losses whereas good gamblers are who do find chances to achieve what they look for. There are lots of differences between them.
8430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are some unique advantages of online gambling ? on: June 14, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
Much comfortable than offline, because here everything is accessible through the internet. Most of the time I prefer sports gambling and with the events it gives me the best on time settlement on wins in a much faster way which I haven't experienced with any other kind of gambling.
Accessibility is actually one of the thing that makes it unique to any age, any tribe, any religion as long as no one is behind your neck to watch what you are doing in any case, and even the government would not have to breathe down your neck anytime and by the online gambling, I am referring to cryptocurrency gambling since fiat based online gambling can only come with accessibility but every other thing is the same.

Due to the fact that the crypto space is an unregulated environment, it even makes things easier.
8431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 3 - Australia] on: June 14, 2018, 03:49:21 PM
I think the conclusion from this is gambling industry will give some revenue to the country and will make some contribution to the people in another section. as I see in here, gambling revenue makes a big money to the owners and gives a good amount for the tax. and for the employment, there are many people that work in the gambling industry and the other field and of course, this will help people which need jobs for searching the income. besides that, with the gambling industry, this will attract tourism to visit the country and they are playing gambling in many places in that country and this will make another contribution to the other fields.
Well, you just reiterated everything the OP has said, but in this case, decided to summarize it.
Yes, gambling industry brings all these things, brings about job for some people and so is other investment as well, brings revenue to the government and so are other investments, and brings about tourism, that is even out of the picture as there are better ways to create tourism than gambling.

I feel we are looking for excuses to justify gambling, while we should be looking at those it affects negatively in quite a number of ways, but I guess that would be me diverting from the benefits to the huge disadvantage. A lot of things generate revenue for the government and the owners, as well as create tourism, without bring disadvantage to those who are making use of those things, which I am sure gambling knows how to do better.
8432  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you spend less bitcoin/alts now? on: June 14, 2018, 03:19:12 PM
But with the current market I just hold, I don’t want to spend my coins at such a cheap price because it will feel like a loss to me.
Do you feel the same way? What are your thoughts?
I've been holding since the days when bitcoin is around three digits so I'm in good place whether the market isn't so good, I'm only feeling that loss but literally I'm not. We have the same feeling that when we are selling at lower price, it's a loss for us.
Treating ourselves once in a while really would not hurt but one way or the other; it is always that hard when you realize the potential of what you are spending at the current low price would be later on.

For someone like me who is an I.T freelancer, I get most of my pay in this space and since it is a huge one, I pay myself 50% and hold the remaining, which is good enough for me, no matter the value at the time I am selling anyway, and sometimes when I have fiat to even buy back way lower when it is oversold, I don't waste the opportunity.
8433  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you rather see steady growth in Bitcoin or strong upward spikes instead? on: June 14, 2018, 11:02:24 AM
I would prefer to see a steady growth in btc unlike its volatility so it can be widely used as payment and it would be effortlessly gain. Btc being volatile is a risk and challenge for the users, however, I think the good thing about its strong upward spikes is that it can increase its value more than of what we expected. The btc value can exceed our price expectation.
Yeah, as much as we all love those quick spikes for quick gain, they are never going to be sustainable and this is the reason why it is always so easy to see a quick dump coming with a quick spike at the end of the day and this sends the wrong message most of the time as more of a pump and dump market kind of.

For a steady growth, this would really make a lot of sense, it would give room for real growth, we will get people and investors all over the world, seeing a pretty good movement and sustainable one upward, and that is all that matters, not some craziness in the space.
8434  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold & Silver are safe than bank deposits ?? on: June 14, 2018, 08:13:13 AM
I would rather deposit to gold and silver than give the money I have in the bank because in the bank my money will definitely be used for other purposes so it makes my money unsafe.
Yeah, when it comes to gold and silver, I can at least have some rest of mind that even when there is huge inflation going on, that is when you will know the value of really leaving your money in an asset such as those.

Bank deposits is never safe, at some point, we just did not have a choice, as there is simply no value for storing in the bank, and talking about safety, that is not even guaranteed, as we have seen situations where bank could have a serious problem and can put on hold the customers cash for a very long time or even make one lose his or her money, so there is no guarantee with banks, but with gold or silver, sure way.
8435  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is this how bitcoin will finally take it's true place on the totem pole? on: June 13, 2018, 01:05:06 PM
I am sorry to disappoint you but the bitter truth is that the altcoin that you are bag holding is dying and all the people who are dumping it are also pulling bitcoin down with that sinking ship. look at its trading volume you can see how huge it is today. that is because of all the panic sells that have been taking place in the past 30+ hours as people are pushing the big red dump button on your altcoin. Roll Eyes
Things are actually beginning to get crazier than most of us even anticipated but I guess it is what it is. I guess the whales are simply having a filled day doing their thing and sure looks like the volume just keeps increasing further as the ship is being pulled down like you said.

I feel though that the introduction of fiat as trading pair for some of the coins in the market will really be of help but that would mean most exchanges getting strictly regulated, and some coins being out of the market completely. Whenever we move into fiat or banking system then we may lose the forces of true decentralization which will not ensure what bitcoin's abstract originally emphasized.
8436  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: risk in hodling and trading strategy on: June 13, 2018, 12:03:18 PM
I had a bad experience hodling. Initially I used to research for good coins and hodled them till it doomed. Recently tried short term trade and good with it.
Lol, actually at some point we have all ended up having that bad experience but really you cannot blame anyone who is into holding because it is simply hard to understand the movement of the market if you are not a learned trader and you would not want to be gambling your position as that can actually give room for more mistakes and make you lose more.

This personally made me to go through serious trading lessons on my own and it took so much time to get it right and a whole lot worth it as it is far better than just holding through. Trends will always change in between, and it is best to always take advantage of those trend fluctuations.
8437  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = $7,992.71 should i buy and wait or on: June 13, 2018, 08:25:45 AM
OP, did you follow the advice of buying on the price of $7,900?

I was doing a quick browse on the thread and I see that some people thought that Bitcoin is near this year's lows. Including me. Hahaha.

Now it is down by 1000$ and also probably will not fall further from this levels as it is nearing now 7k. People who being waiting for the some fall here is an opportunity for them to start buying at cheaper rate before it starts becomes expensive again.
Looking at the beginning of this thread and everything everyone has been saying it is still very pathetically funny than anyone is not learning their lessons. No one knows anything that will happen next and whoever that cannot accept that should not be investing.

A lot of people said $7900 was the best and here we are a lot lower and then you are still giving an affirmative statement like you can read the future. The most important thing is to invest what you can afford to see reduce in value in a short period of time or buy more if it goes lower, in the long term, the value will increase anyway.
8438  Economy / Speculation / Re: how low can it go on: June 13, 2018, 07:39:03 AM
Well if you listen to John McAfee then by June's end we should be above 15k. I am not the optimistic although I think we will have a successful month and I myself have a target of above 10k by month's end.
We cannot really say how low it can go so whatever others predictions it cannot guaranteed of how much price bitcoin can go. We can guess this month of june the starts of btc price to move to increase. So hopefully this month could surpass the $10k level or if not we have to be patient for the increase of price.
No one absolutely can. We have seen the tendency for more falls and there is actually the possibility but even if we are to go low that much though, I would not assume to see anything lower than $6200 as that formed some pretty huge support around last year with a very good volume. Nevertheless, we all know that this is a market where nothing is predictable and the only best way to play with the market is to always follow the trend and see where it leads. Assuming a lower level well in advance may help but no one can come up with exact levels hence approximation and buying around those levels may help any one who are looking to re-enter the market.
8439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Won't people sell it ? on: June 12, 2018, 07:17:33 PM
When there is panic in the market, which there is, you will always have people who sell their BTC and altcoins even if they have a significant loss.
All the holders will have profit in the end, but you need to have patience!
Panic is not even a good thing and it is always better never to let it affect one's decision most especially for those who are long term investors. That is the idea, create fear in the minds of the weak hands so they can dump and this is because almost those people in that category invested into FOMO, were thinking of the idea of getting rich quickly and now things are going otherwise but forgetting it was actually meant to be a LONG TERM investment. However, it is normal to always see resistance at points like that.

My point is, we can't expect the price to rise and fall the same way as the last year.
We cannot expect the same to repeat but we can expect similar growth to happen in coming months as long as the potentials of bitcoin remains stronger. Those who do not have any doubts on bitcoin's future, wont sell for sure.
8440  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I become a Crypto day trader? on: June 12, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
You need to favor your luck if you want to make money from one-day trading because no one has any idea about the decentralized market. Not only that but also You can't imagine what will happen within an hour. So one-day trading is too risky to get involved in this platform.
Luck does not have anything to do with trading, but your knowledge and strategy is actually the only thing that would work out best for anyone. Trading is not gambling and anyone who ends up seeing trading that way are usually the ones that ends up making grave mistakes at the end.

Learn as much as you can, find a good strategy for yourself and trade on that, as there is no other better way than that which a lot of people usually do not always understand before embarking on the trade journey. Both learning and deriving a strategy alone will be enough to find big profits from trading. Developing own strategy will be possible only after gaining handsome experience but most people not ready to understand this fact.
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