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8441  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did I tell you? BTC will stay down under $600 on: September 22, 2016, 02:23:50 PM
I have been saying this many times and falls under deaf ears. BTC will stay under $600 until the end of the year. But right now most of the people here are still in denial. Once they realize that it will really stay under $600 they will start getting angry. So expect many bearish threads and "bitcoin is dead" threads to come. Cheesy
i also already predicted that in this year the price of bitcoin will fluctuate between average of $600 but some of the bitcoiners said me your prediction is wrong .
but here one other thing is also noticeable that bitcoin price can be fluctuate more sharply any time without notice . so i think may be our prediction will result into wrong prediction .


It doesn't matter if you predicted that or not because tomorrow it could be completely wrong. There are more than 3 months left for this year.So that means there is still the possibility for another pump.Or for a dump down to 500 or whatever.
So do yourself a favor and stop this stupid "I told you" shit.Because when situation in the market changes people will point at you and say you are ridiculous. A coin is having always a flip side.Never forget that!

Strongly agree with  you,  i do iritate sometimes when people do claim and  keep saying what did i tell you thing which  these situations does usually happens since bitcoin price is moving and all thing could possibly happen even which speculation  do we say . Bitcoins price is  unpredictable because of some circumstances.
8442  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: September 22, 2016, 02:21:03 PM
I have had an issue with Paypal and while I was trying to look for a solution on the internet, I came across this website (https://www.consumeraffairs.com/online/paypal_02.html) where everybody is complaining about Paypal. Most of the complains were actually similar to the one that I have. I thought Paypal is a credible company but now I have started feeling worried about my funds stuck in the accounts.

Its somehow  unusual thing for a reputable company which its been used by people  for how many years regarding  on online purchasing  they do have high fees  but they wont scam anyone without any reasons if they hold  your funds then  you could   contact their support  not just  posting directly saying  paypal is a scam.
8443  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin? on: September 22, 2016, 02:17:05 PM
Doubling bitcoin is not easy well it's easy if you take very high risk chances you can go to casino and dice for it to double it all or lose it all.
Or you can do services web developing etc it makes alot of bitcoin and you will double yours in no time depending how much you have.

Gambling  can double your coins only if you are lucky, but you cannot expect that you will double your coins each and every time from it and there are full chances that whatever you have won will make you loose in long run.
It can but it is not advisable, when the way is too easy that means it is also risky and when you choose gambling you have to be a risk taker to do that, maybe you will regret if the outcome is not in your favor.

Gambling would  be the best and fast way but its  not recommended same as you said the risk on lossing your money is high. If  luck does on your side  then you would achieve that in no time but  if not then your money would  gone in seconds for sure. Doubling is not easy in bitcoin world  same on physical world.
8444  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where can I earn much bitcoin? on: September 22, 2016, 02:14:25 PM
I can't say the best alternatives, but you can search in the forum about some possibilities, all information about how to get Bitcoin can be found, from people with experience with it.

All the alternatives are available on this thread i guess as almost every user have posted their opinions about the topic from which a lot are considerable, maybe a few of them are not good enough so you should know that yourself.

Trading is much more profitable than any other scheme ponzi or invest cloud mining etchetera in this world full of scamm bug people and alternative coins are available in every thread you can ask them in every opinion and the topic where to buy when to buy when to sell

and is the yobit campaign fund already? or when?

I agree with you trading  would  be also a best way to earn bitcoin but  you would need  money to earn money and  trading  is not easy as it sounds for which you would need enough knowledge  in able to be profitable with it. YOu  could earn decent amount depending on the  money you invest in any trades,

Ive waiting also for  funds to be filled on yobit wallet its almost  8 days.
8445  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do I make money with $100 USD BTC on: September 22, 2016, 02:07:32 PM
USD convert bitcoin . and invest in mining to grow your bitcoin.
Trading also the best to grow tour bitcoin.
I think you need a long time to grow your bitcoin mining, especially when ROI today that the longer I think investment in mining is no longer profitable. I would strongly suggested a hold bitcoin it will be more secure and I think the advantage will be easier because you only need to hold him and wait for prices to rise

Holding the Bitcoin and wait for the price to rise is also needed a long time, I know that it's indeed the best and safest way to invest but it won't give you a quick profit.

You are  right holding bitcoin for long time  would be tiring and  you would see your profits in longer years but still its  a safe way. Holding would be ideal if  you  keep large amounts of bitcoin which  would  pay the patience of your  when the time comes when bitcoin would rise its price but  if you  hold  only small amounts then  for me it would be useless.
8446  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: September 22, 2016, 02:02:44 PM
Which one is good huh? I guess it would be trading because of various reasons. First of all, you gain and loss in trading depends on you since you are the one speculating what price that altcoin you bought now will be on the future while in investment, you can't know when they will run away with your money, making it more risky. Trading is easier too since you can start with any amount while on investment you need a fixed amount just to start earning money that is so risky. Trading is risky by the way but investing in investment sites are riskier.
I think trading is riskier really but I guess it all depends on the person.Both can be risky but also give you some really nice profit

Investing in real life products is much safer in compare to investing them online, but still I have a feeling that trading will stay on the top when it comes to making a good profits.
Agree with you mate i choose to invest in trading because this is the only method that i know i can able to gain more profit, and i choose to invest more in business than online investments

Yeah and online investments with bitcoins have become very risky nowadays as we don't know how legit site it is where we are putting our money, it may pay you at initial stage but there is no guarantee that it will pay you in long run.

true, online investment nowadays does exist  everytime and  you would  have a hard time on choosing since  most of them are just fraud  or scam which we are somehow  scared a little bit to invest into anything  and afraind of being scammed. You are right there are investments payed you at first time   and  would cut-off in the long run just like  in cases on ponzi and hyip sites.
8447  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 22, 2016, 01:59:29 PM
I will accept my salary as bitcoin as soon as they would finish the infrastructure of bitcoin. I need it to be secure.
Also I need to be sure that it doesn't go down in price every week like it does now. Price swinging is too risky.

Agree with you but the fact is price will always be volatile in bitcoins and we can never expect that it will ever get stable so I don't think its a wise decision to accept salary in bitcoins.

It would never happen since that is bitcoins one of its characteristics  which is its price volatility and  its not possible that it would stable its price anytime soon.  You are right  its not a wise  decision to switch full time on bitcoin since our salary would  depend on bitcoins price and  no  company would intend to  pay their workers on  bitcoin basis.
8448  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1BTC = $600USD, now a good time to buy? on: September 22, 2016, 01:56:15 PM
I truly think that bitcoin will drop this week to around $500 in price as its been around $600 for a long time.

What is the reason though? You believe that just because the price has been around $600 for a long time, that it means it will drop to $500?

There no such basis that bitcoins price would go lower its price like that, even though it stabilize its  price as of now but  its not possible to drop like that, Thus we  must  expect that it would  gradually increase its price  on next week or months, no one really knows on what when it would be.
8449  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Would you buy a hardware wallet? on: September 22, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
I dont like to put all of my coins into a wallet so i dont think i would buy a hardware wallet and that is just because i know how bad the security of the wallets are.

Yes the security is not so good plus the fact is that they can get stuck and they you have the chance of losing your wallet forever.. so that is pretty sick if you are asking me.
If you guy's don't like keeping your coins in a wallet then where are you going to keep them, in your pocket or coin purse?

@ybalevia, can you provide any proof or information to back up your claim that hardware wallets have bad security?
Seems like that just their speculation, because too many I've always heard from the old member in here if storing in the hardware wallet is better than storing in your desktop wallet or especially online wallet.  and the chance for losing your money is just caused by your fault.

THeres nothing wrong in hardware wallets  because  i think the same thing  like others said  its somehow  safe compared on desktop or online but   in hardware wallet there also a risk but in minimal situations since you could  keep it  on  a safe place that no one knows but  having a hardware wallet  could be ideal if youre holding large amounts of bitcoin.
8450  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2.5 Years in Bitcoin and still holding. on: September 22, 2016, 01:29:27 PM
2.5 years is a long time and if you not sold a penny in that time its just stupid, I think that you should have sold it all ready to be honest.
its stupid if you have not done this..

You cant say stupid  since people are different, you could assume that he spend  somehow his coins in 2.5 years time  but  as he states he didnt even spend a single coins but we have the same thinking  2 years is soo long  and  for my  situation i would definitely get some of those coins to be spent.
8451  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: September 22, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
You can start with 0.01, that is a good amount to start trading so you will not be able to lose big in case you are not successful at first try, but of course you need to be aware that knowledge is important to succeed.
if you have a lots of time that amount yes can be use for starting trading but expect that it would take more time to grow as trading is a time consuming business.

It will take time if you select those shitty coins to buy but actually you can make some profits with it even though you start at small capital, and try to look up for xaur that coin is very movy at this moment and we really earn by the pump and dump scheme.of this coin since the dev are really pumping this coin so it well be more appealing to traders, and so better try to track that coin to earn eventhough your budget is small.

I agree with you xaur is  a good altcoin since its price does move  always  and which traders would  love to trade this kind of  coin. You are right there are some coins which are actually a waste of time some may  pump once and  dump forever. You could actually start into alt trading with a small amounts as long   you sustain and  maintain to get profit even on small amounts atleast in constant way.
8452  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: September 22, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Hold and look for investment options or start trading with smaller accounts
When you have made a few trades start increasing the capital.This seems to be the best method
agree that you do not rely only by holding your 12 bitcoin in your wallet do something to increase or boosting your income, but if you are busy person it is good the holding method.,

making bitcoin on idle are also good  if youre a busy person or dont have any idea on  any investments then you should not do anything  on your coins which is  much safer than investing  on things  that  you dont have any idea at all. 12 bitcoin is  already a  huge amount and  we should not risk or do some thing  that it would be wasted.
8453  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: September 22, 2016, 12:06:09 PM
If I was you then I would not sell everything because the price can go up again and then you have just sold for less money.
Always keep some Bitcoin because then you will not miss out on that much money, it will help try it out.

Yup, and price is going down at a moment, so even selling some of them at this stage is not affordable, as it will give less profits, I have a plan to hold them at least for next 3 years to make good money from it.

Panic selling is not a good way since it would  reduce more  of its price. Its better to hold  longer than to panic sell on a cheap price because it wont  give you any advanatage on it in fact you would  definitely get negative profit with that. Decreasing price of bitcoin is just a normal thing   theres nothing to be wooried about since as we all know that bitcoin would surely bounces up its price.
8454  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: September 22, 2016, 12:04:15 PM
I guess it's possible to make a living with it in different ways, Either running a big website taking/accepting BTC and therefore making a living with it or using altcoins or trading BTC volatility with USD but those would require a huge sum of BTC's and a moderate risk to invested money...

those options are possible if you were an early adopter of bitcoin. You have a lot of bitcoin by now and you can fund an exchange or a gambling website. Those business can earn you a lot of money these days. But for the likes of us who joined bitcoin later, it will be harder to  find a job that can sustain  a good income in bitcoin.

Yeah if you have bought them when price was below $100 in the past then you would be enjoying huge profits by now and you would have survived without doing anything.
Is this still fine to buy bitcoin as much as we can buy now? Is the price of bitcoin will always rise every year? I hope it will happen. Yeah earning living with bitcoin by make investment such a funding will be profitable because so many new people will use bitcoin.

This is possible  because people continue to buy and uses it but  there would be still no assurance on future on having a living with  bitcoin unless if you have stable investment in bitcoin world  like having multiple casino sites, exchangers and many more which could sustain  living in  daily basis. Rising prices of bitcoin is normal and would really happen up in the future.
8455  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many btc do you have? on: September 22, 2016, 12:02:23 PM
bitcoin the more you have, the better it will be. You can use your bitcoin to pump altcoin in coin trading.. Cool
of course the more bitcoin that you have the better it will be. because if you have a lot of bitcoin course you can use it for many things such as doing a business, investment, or at least to shop. then you should collect many bitcoin dude, if you want to be better

Yes and I think this is the best time to collect maximum bitcoins as price is not too high at a moment and we can also earn good amount from signature campaign which may not be possible in future.

Saving bitcoin as much as we can as of now is the best way to have a profitable future since as we all know thats bitcoins price would surely go rise up in the future. For now  im saving up more btc  as i can  like what youve said  im saving up some of my signature campaign earnings and store it on my web wallet and   dont spend it  on non important things.
8456  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: September 22, 2016, 12:00:41 PM
Well, If i had that much btcs  I would surely use most of them in  trading, as that's the only way  I find at the time to make good  profits, on a daily basis, of course.

Majority of users will prefer to invest in trading if they are holding that high amount as with altcoin trading you can surely make good profits on daily basis if you perform action at a right time.

For sure most of us would  do trading since its the best way and a profitable  one but  some may invest into casino sites and other investments because trading is not an easy thing to do and we all know that.  21 btc is  enough already to make such investments which could able you give profits in the future.
8457  Other / Archival / Re: Do you have paypal account even though you have bitcoin? on: September 22, 2016, 11:48:46 AM
I dont have a paypal account. I dont even want to have it in future because i prefer bitcoin payment as it is much easier and affordable than paypal.

Well bitcoin is  much  better than paypal but for sure most of  us especially to those people who likes to purchase online does have  paypal because bitcoin is isnt  popular back in previous years. Paypal is famous because its the way to purchase online and other services but   when bitcoin was invented and  adopted then  people  switched for sure  because of less  transaction fee and   the time of transfer and its  accesibility.
8458  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 22, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
if i am not earn much of bitcoin in a day, i will not quit my day jobs, because if we have got high payment in day job while we only earn small-middle bitcoin, its not enough. so we should continue our day jobs and earning bitcoin in many ways, so somedays, i am sure that we can make big earning with bitcoin and then its time for us to quit our day job.

Definitely, no one like to quit his daily job, if he has not earned too much from bitcoins. But i think better is that join the both ways, If someone have good day job and also he has extra time and in extra time he is doing work with bitcoins, so that is too good.
I don't think that only whole depend on bitcoin is good, so do the work with day job, and also work with the great bitcoin.

The only one who will enjoy the benefit of working full time in bitcoin are those who invested early on bitcoin. THose people who got hold of bitcoin when the price was still in cents. They have enough bitcoin to start a business and earn a living out of it.

You are correct,  those early adopters  would  surely  enjoy  its benefits since they have the advantage  on investing into something  because they have enough bitcoin to spent.   But as of now to us  who only hold a small amount we could  do such things that they  could do.  Quiting  your job just to switch to fulltime in bitcoin would be risky.
8459  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for a data entering job for my sister on: September 21, 2016, 01:10:07 PM
Hi everyone

Over the past week i have tried to find a proper data entering job for my sister

She tried megatypers but she is more looking for a documents retyping kind of job or something similar to that


Is there someone who can reccomend me a place??

She is interested to work at least 7 hours a day


 

I recommend this place for sure,if she want a typing job then   signature campaigns is much better than those captcha things out there which pays you a small amount for your   hard effort which is truly sick  when im thinking  to that situation. Doesnt  worth for your time. Better  introduce  to her this forum and the basics . Goodluck
8460  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how double my btc on: September 21, 2016, 01:06:55 PM
Gambling in bitcoin can double your btc.
But, it's very risky you have to be wise in playing.
I suggest you join in trading if you want to double your btc.
In trading you must be patient so you can earn profit well.


You are right you can double your bitcoin easily and in a fast way with doing gambling  but  the risk  of lossing money is high and we all know that then  if you want to risk then go on and  if you dont want then  do some investment  that would  possibly make your coins double. Same as others said theres no easy money here in bitcoin world.
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