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8461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: which dice site is better ? on: September 21, 2016, 11:14:49 AM

If you want to find the best site to play dice you should go to google and search for it because every gambling site has almost the same things so you can almost use everyone.

Why do you want to go to google search? You can find many good trusted sites to find in this forum itself, no need of any google search. Bitselr is also one of the best site for dice game, got a good support to help you and the withdrawals are instant. If you want, you can try and check this site.
I think there needs to testimony from any user or gambler so we know which sites are the best dice and trusted to be able to use to gamble and earn a profit, so it is not a matter of making a topic about which sites best dice, because if you're looking for a article on google could have been an article of staff a site dice

doesnt matter at all since all could give his  testimony which site does he play , they may differ  on appearance at all but  the  game would be the same  and also theres no such specific site that would give  you profits. All  of dice sites are just depending  on luck on able to win.
8462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 21, 2016, 10:45:41 AM
I 'm only a small invest in gamble because if you do not beat me greatly . Because I know myself that gambling luck is needed . And gambling should not be vicious because most addicted to gambling because of their desire to win big . And others are becoming greedy because of gambling .
So i do invest a small enough to me for to beat so i did not think much because it is small capital

playing gambling with small amount is really safe the rest of our money, but its different, if we use the rest of that money to play gambling even we know that we only get loss. so this is what the best we can do while we play gambling.

Even how small you bet  on playing gambling  its still gambling and  when you play everyday its a sign of  addictiveness whichis not good. We would  lose too much money if we intend or keep on playing  on  long time because gambling is designed  to loss its players. So the best way to stop loss then we should not play gambling after all.
8463  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: September 21, 2016, 10:32:11 AM
Advice, tips, speculation please.
I think that you should hold on to them because the value of the Bitcoin is going to rise sooner or later so hold on to them.
Then you can sell them for a profit, so I suggest that you do not do anything else with them.
Though the price is unstable in bitcoin but it can not rise to that must that people are expecting it to be.o p should invest 1-2 bitcoin in eth or dash ,they both have good scope in future.

Well investing on altcoin isnt bad after all since its also good  to diversify your money  in able to make money more if one investment doesnt work out. You are correct we must not expect too much  that bitcoin price would definitely  rise up in the future since we really dont  know on what way would the price go.
8464  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did I tell you? BTC will stay down under $600 on: September 21, 2016, 10:26:33 AM
The price is under $600 again, I don't know why the big dump happened. I bought bitcoin at $620, now I am at loss   Cry

No need to panic about it... Just consider it as fund for a while til the price goes up higher than the price when you bought it... I checked it and that was a long red candlestick, which also happened last time this month also... I think, like everyone said, it is normal... Just avoid watching the price too much, it will just stress you out...  Smiley
You are right is  just a normal thing  in bitcoins price movement. Its  not a rare case though since it does really drop its price sometimes  and then suddenly goes up again. True, watching too much  on bitcoin price would surely gives you stress because  you are always expecting that the price would go higher  on the amount  you bought it.
8465  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: September 21, 2016, 10:23:49 AM
You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin.
Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit

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thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that

Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000
If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now  Grin

For sure  if   the pizza guy would able  to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but  sad to say that was before in the past which is  somehow a very regretting  situation.  Manipulating price  or moving bitcoins price would  definitely  need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or  to be  bought,
8466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: September 21, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.
Only difference is chances of your getting caught is less with Bitcoin.That is why bitcoin should be used with much care a needs to kept safely

Yeah indeed. Ofcourse stealing bitcoin is illegal cause taking anything which isn't yours without permission is illegal. BUT they can't really catch you so easily cause bitcoin is so anonymous so it's the perfect crime but still it's a crime.

It seems a lot of you guys are answering the question from the header directly, you should read op's scenario. I don't think it's stealing because in his scenario he didn't plan to take anyone's Bitcoins. He merely created a new address and found Bitcoins in it, he didn't 'steal' them, he got them because of some glitch. In a case like this I would totally keep the coins for myself  Grin

you have a point , OP  just accidentally  generated a new bitcoin address which theres already funds in it which is a very rare scenario  because as we all know new addresses are unique  and  cant possibly have identical. In his case  it wont be considered as stealing since he dont use force or does have any intentions to steal it from the owner.
8467  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best place to buy more than 100BTC on: September 21, 2016, 10:14:22 AM
Hi Guys,

I was wondering about the safest way to buy more than 100BTC? I would really appreciate your feedback guys

There are  reputable  exchanges out there  that could directly buy 100 worth of btc but same as other said  it would need some verification.  I would suggest coinbase because  ive tried  to buy some bitcoin there  it was fast and easy. I wouldnt suggest buying  on personal since the risk of being  hold.-up would be high.
8468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 20, 2016, 02:36:30 PM
Investing money is much better than gambling.
When you gambling, you play against the HE, when you invest, you play with the HE Smiley

Investment is a better option, albeit you still have a chance of losing everything even if you invest in the House Edge if someone's luck is enough to get a good gain gambling on that site wherever you have invested your coins...

That's why when you invest your money don't put in any new sites which got very less bankroll, and it can be easily eaten away from big players. You should choose a well-established site to invest but your earnings may be slow on these sites but safer to compared to investing on new sites.
Exactly, usually new sites offers good investment program but when you are a wise investor you will not just easily believe on that because in the business what is important is the trust, even if your are just earning a little amount but that is already considered as profit and you can accumulate it to a bigger amount if you receive it continuously.

Yeah that is definitely correct,

Trust is the foundation in business,

Because for example, if you are earning a lot in a business which is not trusted at all and you've invested a lot in it, and it dissolve then good bye money and your profits are not that high enough to compensate the amount of money you've invested in to that said investment site.

So it is better to look for a trusted business to invest your precious money with.
We smart to invest dont invest in ponzi site. better to invest to your knowledge and start your own business using skills..
This is i think that you will not lose and you can use it lifetime. not unlike you invest it to a project that you didnt know how long they will alive..


Why not try to invest in bitvest as you are going to be with the house edge or if you don't want to invest in gambling sites. Then you are just going to do simply as trading.

Because trading for me is a good way to get good profit if you are just going to be a good trader to it. But if you can do it both, gambling and investing at the same time.

Then that is going to be better.

Investing on a gambling site  is also a good thing you are with the house edge which is quite profitable on  long run but theres still a risk since we dont  know when  they would stop to operate. Trading is the most common way but its not for all since trading would require knowledge and skills to be profitable.
8469  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn 0.1 Bitcoin in month? on: September 20, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
You can start trading if you have already good knowledge about it, there is many Bitcoin's users earning good profit with trading. Also you can selling your skills in the marketplace section
Trading won't gives you 100% of earning where there are chance that you can earn that much of bitcoin by chance but there are chance also that you could lose bitcoin and if he has already good knowledge in trading then he could use forex because there you need skill.

Very true on doing trading  you cant assure yourself to be profitable  100% in any moment since  you could also surely experience some loss  because  prices are moving in different ways and you cant predict it anytime. Just like as you said forex would do  require some skills to be profitable. 0.1 btc a month would be possible here in this forum by doing  the basic signature campaigns.
8470  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What Happens if I lose my Bitcoins? on: September 20, 2016, 02:32:44 PM
hi , so this is my question , but i thing we can not do anything ?.

Please elaborate more regarding to your question since im little bit confused in which way did you lose your bitcoin. Actually there are some ways  how  did you lose it but one things for sure if you lose your bitcoin then say goodbye and  forget it since transaction are  non reversible.
8471  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 20, 2016, 02:31:13 PM
iam quit in my job if i have much bitcoin
and with my bitcoin can use bitcoin for living, so with earn bitcoin can living
this 1000 bitcoin can bitcoin for living
 have 1000 bitcoin iam leave and resign in my job in office
before that happens of course you need to work hard to earn more bitcoin for the future so that you don't need to apply on any job to work hard tooo
if someone donated you a 1000 bitcoin what would you do? are you going to quit your job to fulfill the bitcoin and trade it into cash and build your own business?

For sure he would do that since 1k btc is no joke  money it would convert to $600000 as of  this  moment on the current price of bitcoin which is trully a huge amount to make business. But if  hes wise enough for sure those coins would be invested and  hold some of them. Quiting day job just for  bitcoin would  be a risky thing to do.
8472  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What would you like to buy? on: September 20, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
I would like to buy everything i want to but wheni want that i need allot of money and i hope to be a millionair in the future but that is not for everybody off course
Hoping is not enough you need to work hard, be smart, skills and some money in order to become a millionaire, I wish you luck cause becoming a millionaire is not easy

Hoping  for being a millionaire without efforts would be still useless and would  remain as a dream since  gaining  money is not easy at all and you would do a hard work for it and able to achieve it. If i would be a millionaire  with bitcoin i would secure to buy shelter, health insurances, food, and any other needs of sustaining everyday live.
8473  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 20, 2016, 02:18:36 PM
Trading is definitely not for everyone. It requires a certain business like attitude and enough experience in the cryptocurrency world.
Many people simply just don't find it interesting to do, which is completely understandable.
I had a friend who traded forex but quit altcoin trading after a few weeks since he thought it was too volatile and there were too many scams around.
thats the reality its different from forex even good traders are also having problem with trading alt if you tend to earn from it you must look and study harder quitting is an option for those who's not enjoying or earning from it.

forex and altcoin trading  is  the same in the sense they involve in market price but  the volatility which differs them. In altcoin volatility  it would be high compared  to forex but the movement is minimal in upcoming days  and it really depend on alts but on forex, price moves any time which move in pips.
8474  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Things All traders should Do on: September 20, 2016, 02:16:11 PM
1. Never be emotional – especially afraid

It’s easy to come in with mentality that it’s exciting to make money, because it is. However, trading has to be looked at with a cold and calculating eye. Don’t let the ups get you excited, or the downs get you depressed. People with a loser’s mentality trade with emotion. When the coin is down, just start slowly buying. When it’s up just start slowly selling (more on this later). If you allow fear to come into the trading process – fear of missing out, or fear of selling too soon / too late, you will never be an effective trader.

2. Always be prepared

Know your market, read the ANN thread of the coin you’re buying. Know the development team, their past, their scam accusations. Know the total amount of the coin in circulation and the inflation rate. Know how many coins the top holders have. Plan on coin accumulation over time – even when a coin can seem at its bottom, there’s always a chance scared people will push it 20% lower before there’s someone to pick up the pieces

3. Never put all your eggs in one basket

This should be obvious to everyone, but never champion a specific coin. “believing in a community” is the single most ridiculous thing that the altcoin traders have come up with. The dogecoin community was massive and actually got a nascar sponsorship through, but the excitement of the past doge days is long gone. My point here is that no community sticks around for too long, because there’s nothing to actually lock anyone in after big traders have abandoned the coin.

4. Always be logical

The opposite of never be emotional. It is important enough to restate, because it is the single most critical, and common, mistake that traders make. The herd moves with what “seems” correct. Buy when a coin is going up. However, you should be selling when the coin is going up. That is the time to take profit – when everyone else is trading with emotional excitement, thinking only of their greed. It’s easy to take advantage of if you know what to look for

5.Never sell all your coins at once

Space your trades out – pumps can start and stop at any time, and any price level.

Even if you “know” it’s at the top, it can always go higher. Don’t live with that regret.

This is from my blog !

https://priceslide.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/5-things-all-traders-should-do/

Its quite helpful and  we should considered this  to do when we are  trading but  im little bit   confused on number 5 which  we cant really say that a certain coin would be  on its peak price since  we wont know after all and we dont  know  future. Negative profits and mistakes on trading  are just normal after all.
8475  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: satoshimines.com great SCAM site. on: September 20, 2016, 02:12:36 PM
got balance up high enough to cash out and once hit the withdrawal button up pops error message claiming a "bot" is trying to hack account therefor account is banned along with balance......
messaged through contact form to Admin regarding issue but not holding breath. Seems to be a selective scammer.
anyone knows of a better way to contact site operators it would be much appreciated.


You lying. I don't think their site is as fair as it makes out to be but even I know now you talking crap. New account only 1 post and it is about an accusation. I don't believe one word. If this happened you would have a screenshot.

He wont even answered our  replies  here in this thread since he wont  show us some proofs regarding  on the scam accusation of satoshigames site. You are right  i wont  believe either on a newly created account  only 1 post of just accusing scam to a certain site which is definitely a lie.
8476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 20, 2016, 02:10:04 PM
Gambling can really make you cry but I think its not bad but even logical, gambling is based on luck, and sometimes when you do not have this luck you will cry because you have lost money...
I think its normal and that we have to live with it...
yes gambling can make you cry bit if you have no control on your self, and continue loosing in gambling, but if you have full control on yourself then gambling cannot make you cry, because you do gambling up to the limit you can afford,
Yup in gambling controlling our emotions is very important. If you don't have control of your emotions, then I am sure you will cry one day. Because our greedy will lead us to play everything that we have in our pocket. Once our pocket empty then I am sure we will cry. But I have control over my mind I know when to stop gambling. So I never cried till today, but I felt many sad times when I lose my bet.

When losing in gambling that is really the only reason why we are going to cry. I had experience that too before at first I am big winner.

But I don't secure some amount to my profit, so in the long run I lose almost all of my winning by that time.

So you know what happened next,  Cry.
Well, that is not new to us here, we have a similar experience, I also experience winning big amount but due to the greediness and thinking that I have already found the secret to make easy money in gambling, I gamble again but lose, in the long run we still lose.

That is really right that in the long run, we will surely lose because what we called the house edge. No matter what strategies or technique you could have, these will not over power the house edge in the long run. However, if you play wisely by having many sessions and proper bankroll management, and the like, just like the professional gamblers, then you will combat the casino house edge.

I dont think so, since no matter  how  you use techniques and  methods either  having a good bank roll management you could possibly combat house edge but  the result would be still the same. Luck is the main thing in all of these, even if you dont have strategies  or techniques as long  luck  on your side for sure you would win.
8477  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: September 20, 2016, 02:07:55 PM
I'd certainly store most  part of it for a very  long time... The price is not going up  right now, but I believe there  are good chances  for the future..
i think the right statement is "the price is stable now". Smiley
bitcoin price most stable at some month, for me this is very good for making good earning in bitcoin.

Earning bitcoin is an continuous process but if price is stable then I think its a good time to buy some bitcoins and hold if for future as price will eventually rise in coming months.

stable prices isn't a good time to buy a bitcoin. better patient, because when prices stable you will wait for a longer time and sometimes the price is stable when there is some negative news, prices can fall.
stable prices really good to continue to earn bitcoin, especially if you are a miner.

Yes stable price is good time for miners to earn bitcoins, and as a investor I think we should wait for next couple of days and see whether price falls or not and if it does then it would be great to have some more in wallet.

Agree. Miners will be happy if the price is stable Cheesy but in trading it depends if the price of bitcoin is high or low. Patience and the exactiming is the best to earn in trading. Couple of days or weeks thats right lets just wait until the price rises or fall Cheesy Patience is a money Cheesy
If the price would be stable at higher price miners will gain more profit but if that would be stable at the middle price i think they will only gain few profit on that, but i agree that the other capital of the investors is patience, 10 bitcoin is good enough to invest in altcoin do trading and you will boost your income.
Patience is a key for becoming successful trader . If you have 10 btc you can gain profit easily without worry.
Just select your coins , hold it for short-term , and you can earn your profit . Big coins I think is good choice (like XMR , Doge , or AMP)

Yes those are the good coins to invest in at a moment and I would also prefer to invest in ETC and ETH as those coins have very high volume and they won't disappear so easily.


Well I won't invest that amount with trading what I am going to do its either I am going to sell that immediately and going to start out my real business or if I still doubt to put up my small business then I will just going to totally hold it so that I am going to get good profit out of it.

If you are ready with a good plan to start a real life business then you should not make any delay in it as real life business is always good in compare to investing in bitcoins as you can get profits for a life from  there.

I agree, investment in the real world is much more better and safer than investing it online or in the cryptoworld. Risks is higher in the cyberworld rather than the real world. You can't catch a thief in the real world if someone stoles your money. It's easy for someone to pretend anyone he/she wants in the internet.

Yes in online world there is no face to face agreement which makes it really risky to invest and to trust anyone but in real world the chances of getting scammed or cheated is very less.

I strongly agree with you,  chances  on being scammed or money being stoled by someone is  high  here  on online world compared into physical world since you wont have assurance here online  if you could get back those  money  you loss,unlike in physical world  which you could possibly traced and put the suspect in prison but in online  world   you would  surely have a hard time.
8478  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: September 20, 2016, 01:57:40 PM
Well the only thing that i know in increasing your bitcoin is to mine and participate on signature campaign but most of the people also save up there bitcoin and trade to fiat when they reach their desired amount

Not only on signature campaigns  and mining , there are lots of things actually to earn or  increase it, like on doing trading it has the potential to increase or  even grow your  bitcoin  though its quite risky but still a good investment compared into others.  Theres no 100% safe way to grow bitcoin since in every investment there are  involve risk.
8479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: September 20, 2016, 01:54:43 PM
curiousity about win and lose that can made people addicted in gambling , gambling always promise about min,,but that is only promise because people always lose
If you experience how to win its a great feeling and you will always be tempted to play again and again its like an illness that you cant resist. thats why addicted person nevermind how much money they already lose because of gambling.

The feeling of winning does contribute on making you a gambling addict, same as you said  you would surely be tempted to play  again and again but  you wont realize that you are already  keep lossing much money and thats the time that the emotion or aim of  gaining back your  losses back would come out.
8480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price increase to $1000+ again soon. What will you do? on: September 20, 2016, 01:52:50 PM
If this happen when Bitcoin price going to 1000$ I buy new gaming pc and I keep it the rest in my Bitcoin wallet.What do you think is gonna happen.

Same here, if bitcoin price would go high its price like that then i would for sure buy a gaming pc on my own bitcoin . The big question here is when it would reach on to that price point since we are just staying stable  at $600+ price as of now. Well that time would surely come. We must extent our patience afterall.

I agree with you, we wont know on when it would increase its price like that. It  happen in previous years back which it reaches above $1000+ then suddenly  drop its price and  now we are back to $600 , therefore  its expected that it would reach again on that price but  we wont know when it would happen.
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