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8581  Economy / Gambling / Re: Poker tournaments why tournaments in other games on: September 03, 2022, 08:15:19 PM
A lot of poker game tournaments have been announced on this board over time, and am I kind of wondering what makes poker games so inclined to the tournament and we don't see such competitions being announced for other games?

Short: Poker is one of the few (if not only) gambling where skill can prevail.

Better reward people for their skill than luck Smiley
Indeed and that is why crypto gamblers are totally involving and playing Poker than other gambling in the forum .
I once participated in poker tournament couple of years ago and yes there are good pot of wins but I loss my chance that time.
now I wanna play again in an open competition so i may add more skills to win this time lol.

Well, poker is itself an icon in gambling and not just now, it's a lifelong one, it's a basic game that every player should have among their favorites, because strategy is a factor that every player must put before leaving everything in hands of luck, we have to look for luck, because if we have our knowledge as an ally, it is a matter of doing things very well to be successful, I think this is one of the reasons why many prefer games and tournaments of poker, besides, it cannot be deceived that the emotion of a PVP game with so many people gives much more elegance, because that way you know who is the best.

A lot of poker game tournaments have been announced on this board over time, and am I kind of wondering what makes poker games so inclined to the tournament and we don't see such competitions being announced for other games?
have you partaking in any of those tournament? if yes then maybe you have already learn about the reason why this is the most famous tournament in terms of gambling specially card gaming?

If not then best if you try to participate so you can feel the ambiance and the lust to win one of the biggest reward in gambling history.

this forum or crypto gambling is completely supporting those tournament so let us not question those.
Professional poker players are more dedicated and well-focused on the game or should we say that they have an advantage when it comes to experience. Anyone could play poker but not anyone could be professional in it. It needs a further understanding of how to deal with the risks of this game and having a sense of responsibility at the same time. People prefer poker over other gambling games because its risk is more manageable than others.   
When they want to learn to be a professional poker player, they must spend more time learning various poker lessons and how to control themselves. Becoming a professional poker player means that they can also earn money from the game while continuing to learn. It is not easy because they should prepare many things before becoming a professional poker player, especially the time that must be spent to become a professional. But all gambling games have risks and the size of these risks varies depending on several things.
sure they will , and because this needs to risk their own money and poker is not that easy as many think off.

I have said this a couple of times, I don't know if you have played on a betcoinpoker platform years ago, it was a software that was declining and there were always live tournaments and you could play for free, and there were always tournaments where participation of some it was quite good, of course this is something that when they won the prize it was that if 100mBTC or something like that, there were tournaments where the entrance was paid, and but they were 24 hours a day, and it was very exciting, one could spend hours there playing Of course, this is something I say because I would like a casino and betting platform to take that initiative and launch it, it would be something very rewarding and with a clear traffic option.
8582  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | BEST ODDS ON KSI 2 FIGHTS 1 NIGHT | VIP | on: September 03, 2022, 07:31:38 PM
I honestly think casinos and exchanges are hitting two targets with one arrow.
By setting a mandatory KYC on their platform they are following the regulations from the government as well as selling this data to other companies for money.
Governments are keeping these regulations for AML but may be exchanges and casinos are using this KYC data for their benefit as well.
We can never know the hidden truth behind this.
As long as there's no blackmail or many strangers asking you for money, I don't think your KYC is being used by other people. Because that's where your data being used and it's a sign if many people already know how to reach you. You may correct we don't know behind truth about this, but at the same time they're getting forced to ask KYC. That's why if you're want to give your KYC, make sure you're already 100% trust with the project.

Well, I don't know about casino sites but I know the fact that there are companies that sell their KYC data to others.
Other companies use this data and calls you with their advertisements. There are also websites which sells their customer data to other companies.
Other companies then show you targeted ads and promotions. Both of this can be possible by casino sites as well.
But yeah you have a point too. Only give your KYC information to platforms which you trust.
Selling of these documents is harsh truth which we need to realise and don't provide our KYC documents to any fake casino out there which could be risky and in most cases they don't call you but will use your documents for some illegal works over the dark web so we must not provide them to anyone whom we don't trust at all.

Well, seeing that all this can lead to a big problem, it is evident that people look for what is only for money, I am surprised that a person wants to risk everything by buying documents just to pass a KYC, I appreciate that it is not something very Unintelligent, because in case the casino implements quite radical security like Binance does, if you are making a transfer or even a large withdrawal, they ask you to take a picture of yourself right there as you are so they can do it. verify through their algorithms or smart technology, each platform has its methods, I would not risk it, to be honest in these cases where a lot of money is involved, I would prefer to do things well and legally.

Finding a website that is not strict with KYC isn't difficult, the one difficult is finding a reputable site that is not strict with KYC.  Only a few known reputable Casino sites are remaining to be not strict with KYC and many are transitioning into KYC-compliant casinos since they are being pressured by the regulations imposed by the authority.  If only Casinos can operate without this KYC stuff, they will be happy to because this KYC stuff eats money,  so not implementing KYC will save them lots of money, but well, as I said, they have to comply with AML regulation.
The online casino linkage with AML regulations requires every casino user to comply with KYC, so you find other popular online casinos are not strict for KYC then the team has not released the KYC rules and the team is still working to implement KYC soon. It is suggested that the authorities should not only enforce the AML regulations in every online casino but should facilitate third parties to monitor the KYC of each user and the regulations should be strengthened to punish any casino that spreads privacy data or weak data privacy security systems.

This dfel KYC has been a very hot topic lately, not only here in Duelbits but almost in all the casinos of the forum, now that they have gotten worse with the KYC they have complained much more and it is becoming a somewhat big problem, regarding the Duelbtis I have never had a problem with them, their KYC is not so radical, I think it is normal, if we go to other casinos they have more KYC requirements, there are even some that have prohibited countries, which becomes a bigger problem, then seeing that here the KYC is not so demanding, but in cases that can turn out to be suspicious, I don't see it at all wrong, of course, I respect the decision of each player that they want to be anonymous.
8583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dealing with ISP block on Gambling websites on: September 03, 2022, 06:17:41 PM

How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

Forcing to gamble despite knowing that your ISP is blocked would only give you a problem in the long run. I suggest you to look for other casinos that accept your IP, that way you will not think of your account getting freezed and you can focus on what you are doing.

This is what normally a responsible person would do, but some or rather the majority always choose to challenge the casino, and here is when a great development of undesirable problems is denoted that should be avoided at all costs, and I know that if they do not accept your IP, you have to see that this is like women, there are many in the world, you can't lose your head just for one, because in the end it can be just a simple whim, and waste time, energy and above all a lot money in it, so there are so many options to play in any other casino, why risk work, money there?

8584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Problem, Is it Possible to be a Thing of the Past? on: September 03, 2022, 01:59:09 PM
It is very possible to make gambling a thing of the past because nothing remains constant in life,nothing will remain the same as long as the person in question is ready to accept change.
Another thing that can help one is change of environment,and change of friends.If you have a group of friends that are addicts thesame way you are,there is no way your life can change,and there is no way you can make gambling a thing of the past.It is obvious that most people find it difficult to avert from gambling,but a change of mindset and a change of mentality toward it will help you make it a thing of the past.

If, without a doubt, this is something that can undoubtedly help, if a person does all this, what is most sought is for their mind to forget little by little, but I think that the best way is to do things that keep the person very busy, For me, it is the first step to combat severe addiction.

I also agree when you say that things can change, that everything is tied to the past and that they are not things of the past, we are in a world where old things do help us because we have learned from them, but that everything somehow it changes and these changes are actually very good because that's how you get better.
8585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Finding value bets on: September 03, 2022, 01:37:03 PM
If the odds are low but it looks like a sure win then parlay it. That is what I do when I am having a difficult time deciding if it's worth the bet.
Sometimes I play different sports that I do not know and look for low odds just to add in a long parlay and maximize the profits.
In regards, if it's a value bet, no if you risking a large amount of money. Imagine pouring $1000 in one bet and all you can win is $100 while if a sudden unexpected thing happens you will lose 10 fold of the winning bet.
I like risks, but this is not the type that I want. Most of the time going for underdogs with lesser bets but high winnings.
Yeah, but the problem in parlay is the risk as well, you can have multiple bets, but it will be completely destroyed when one of value bets loses. And the odds are not going to be high, it won't even go 1.50 if you have like 1.10 or lower multiple bets.

So it's really hard to bet on this so called value bets, yeah chances are very high, but there are chances that they might still be upset in the end. Unless everything really falls into it, multiple bets all winning whether the odds are very high or very attractive.

I have always thought of that type of betting, where everyone is sure to win, they put large amounts of money to make it something profitable in terms of their personal situation, and particularly when one makes a not-so-big bet, that is, not to lose so much money and if the result is given, it is like winning a lottery, of course the people who do this do not take risks, because they know very well that some are very guided by statistics, for me this will change a lot when they go to seek new horizons in the world Because the World Cup will undoubtedly bring very good surprises for me, and I could say that the first meeting could be a surprise.
8586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best apps for sports betting tips on: September 03, 2022, 03:16:34 AM
For me, the best place to really get high on gambling is BetFury Casino . I play here very often, besides there are a lot of different games, modes, essentially crypto casino and so on. I couldn't even think about how many cool games I would find here and so you can look here too and check out the different ones in detail. It helped me a lot and I hope you'll find it useful too. Good luck, I hope I helped.

Befury can be a very nice casino for everyone, in fact it has a very good selection of games, the only thing I don't like about betfury is that for some or almost all the slots they only accept FIAT and that is something that bothers me, when you play with FIAT you tend to see more clearly how much you are losing, while crypto by its nature of being volatile, it is in the mind that if one stays with less crypto, the hope remains that if bitcoin goes up, that little bit of crypto that we have there in Hodl mode can help us to recover a little the value that was lost at one point, however, if you try stake.com you will be amazed, just like bitcasino, duelbits, rollbit, among others that are also excellent sites .

8587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: September 03, 2022, 02:12:54 AM
Finally, I made a huge win by today in total. Not get a big win, but the game I played by today giving more winning. The game that I played from PGS
  • Ways of the Qilin
  • Dream of Macau
  • The Queens Banquet
Yesterday I made a loan to pay my due debt, since I have some money from work payment, i decide to playing with $60, and made return total $1200. Now I'm happy, Almost my debt getting paid, except for DS, lol. As I said, no big win, just total profit. I wish you are getting luck too  Wink

The truth is that I congratulate you, I like it when people win when they play with respect, in fact, to take a balance of 60 USD to 1200 USD is something that deserves all the great recognition and all the possible congratulations, because this is something we call " feat" and the respective recognition must be given, however when we see that there are as many profits as you have had, it is necessary to tell you that you continue playing with the same moderation, that this time with less money you continue playing so that you do not risk all the profits , and it really is very gratifying that some debts can be paid off and you have less weight.

It's okay, I already let it go, saves me from trouble and frustration.  Who knows that four free spins might be a dead spin  Grin.  Since I experience that a lot on Moon Princess especially that Moon Princess 100.



Yes it could be. let this be your unlucky day right now. tomorrow there will be another good luck.

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I've played 2 times last week but didn't get good results. Everything is forfeited, using normal spins and the buy feature does not get a win. But this time I'm not pushing to spend more than $40. back to playing in pragmatic with IDR 0.4 bet in BK8.
Well, I am a person who has only been lucky enough to play with 7usd and win more than 1000USD, but unfortunately I could not withdraw it because it became a scam, so I could not withdraw it, but I cannot complain because in other casinos I have risked 60USD and I won 160USD, which in the end I don't get because I like to play and that's why I have to play with a very small balance to enjoy every day, and from there don't exaggerate, the truth is I don't know what happened to me with the slots, but for a moment to another I fell in love with them, and for me there is no better strategy than to play in pragmatic slots is to put less than 10USD.
8588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Africa Football Discussion Thread || Current discussion: Best African EPL player on: September 03, 2022, 12:37:17 AM
Nigeria vs South Korea FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup was played today. It was a keenly contested game. Both teams were solid. But in the end, the match ended 1 - 0 in favour of the falconets. Kudos to the team, especially to Sebastine, Onyenezide, Demehin and Idoko. They now have 6 points in their group and move onto the quarter finals. Thursday is the next match. It is not over until it is over. They shouldn't get carried away and draw back if their ultimate ambition is to win the cup.
Nigeria women are doing very  well this time in football, their games always end with a good result,  they are more active and consistent than even our super eagles,  congratulations to the women league.  Even if they didn't score much goals atleast they tried their best to win the game.

Well, there is something that should be highlighted in this type of competition is that women have a very particular style of playing, and it does not only happen with Nigerians, it also happens with players at a world level, as is the case in Germany and in South America. , there is always that superiority that a country is good for football, whether male or female, in this case the eagles have proven to be a very strong team and when making the analogy with men it is the same, but it will be that the luck of the girls need men? knowing that this is one of the things that every player misses the most? so that they lose respect for them?
8589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: September 02, 2022, 11:34:52 PM
Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.
To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.
8590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Infographics] Does Football Betting Pay Off? on: September 02, 2022, 10:56:52 PM
I don't know if anyone above me has already mentioned this.
What about a guy, who made 100 losing bets of small amounts of money and only one extremely lucky bet that won 10x or more? Assuming that he made more money with that bet than the money he lost. Does this make him a successful gambler or a loser? Maybe he sees himself as a winner, while in reality he's a loser, who happened to be extremely lucky for once.
I also think that many sports bettors are exaggerating their success so this survey can't be accurate.
Why aren't other European countries included? Football betting is very popular in my country. The TV shows are full with football betting ads. Grin


In that case, if the gambler ended up with more money than what he initially started, then that's a successful gambler. It's just math.

Now, in the head of that person, it will probably feel like he lost, because our brains perceive losing more intensely than winning. So, let's say he won and lost, and eventually ended up with the same amount of money he entered, he would feel the losses more than the winnings, so it will be a negative feeling in the end.

This is called loss aversion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
It is interesting, but I think that in these eventual cases several things can happen, the first is that when a bettor or player wins in one thing more than the previous ones, this gives him the opportunity to make very large bets from the beginning, because he thinks he knows a lot and that he is going to win, in fact he has a lot of confidence, second, if he does, the chances of winning for the player decrease, and third, I think that a person who does that and is lucky, as they have said before, should continue playing but with very minimal bets, because the idea is to add and add, to make the balance grow, even if very little.

I think the more you bet is the more you lose, so people who said they earn more than they lose and actually make money out of betting is the one who does betting as hobby, they bet like once in 2 or 3 months, and they are lucky to win those. While most people who bet weekly, or even put more than 1 bet each week, they will lose more than they make profit.

Other than that the chart only tell the amount of people that win money, it does not state that those people who win money win more than they lose.
Well this is something that we all know but that few talk about, it's like the commercial for cigarettes, if you start to watch the commercials for cigarettes they are beach, sun, beautiful women in bikinis and the last thing and in very small bold letters they say the warnings about what all cigarettes bring and the damage to health they do, some salesmen say them but quickly and ultimately, almost incomprehensible, that's what this is about, when a person loses more than he earns it's obvious that He almost won't say it, because it will feel a bit sad, although in my case it's not like that, whenever I lose I still say it because I consider that as a player one should face that in the best way.
8591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Macau's Casino Operation Continues Despite The Latest Outbreak on: September 02, 2022, 10:24:26 PM
Desperate but they don't have much choice but to close everything in their country to reduce and minimize the spread of Covid-19 even if that means that their economy and people living within doesn't have a job nor business to keep up with their needs because Macau is really dependent to their hotels and casinos as their country is really small compared to Hong Kong or Singapore.
Well, I think they have choices. To close the industry and forbid it from operating can't be the only alternative. Regulators can ask people to keep distance from each other, to avoid crowds and limit the number of people per building/room, fever tests can be done on the entrance of every commercial buildings, covid tests can be provided in abundance. Anyway, covid pandemic isn't the same anymore. I'm not a specialist, but for some reason that may vary from natural ones to vaccination process, people developed their immunological systems against the virus that has lost its potency considerably. Therefore I see no reason to impose another severe lockdown on citizens.
Things are going back to normal now and this issue is only relevant wayback when pandemic is really on top numbers but now it seems that we are almost completely back to normal.It would be
understandable that  Macau would really be continuing despite of the condition since they do know on where they do get most of their revenue or taxes which is through gambling but of course they would
need to follow health protocols for them to continue or wouldnt really be getting some issues or being sued out on worsening up the situation.They arent dumb not to know the
current condition around but if it turns out that they could handle the situation then they would still do things on controlled manner.
There is one thing that I am clear about and that I have learned thanks to the fact that on occasions I have had to experience things imposed by the government, banks or any other regulatory entity, which is already something that no one likes, unless you are working with them, and it consists of something simple, if an organization, government, bank or any entity tries to put its hands in your pocket, even if they manage to put it in your pocket, the people react and do not let it, they will do what they know so that this does not happen anymore, irreverence is sometimes the best of all exits, that's why I think the same thing is happening in this case, gambling is a big business and you can't let it get lost.
8592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: September 02, 2022, 09:20:06 PM
Well just doing some thoughts, if Indonesia has a very similar level to South Korea, then they are very close to going to a soccer world cup, it would also be something new and colorful, I would really like to see Indonesia in this type of competition, however, I think that now, as the quotas have been extended to go to the World Cup, that is where Indonesia should enter, and in any case they have to qualify, I am used to seeing the South Korean style of football and it is a football that has They have been on the rise, they have a lot of technique and I like the way they charge free throws, something like that should be done by Indonesians.


If Indonesia has a level like South Korea, then Asian football competitions are more interesting and more competitive, so the Asian football axis will not always be owned by Japan, South Korea, Arabia or Australia.
however, in fact, it will be very difficult for the south east asia squad to qualify for the world cup, something we have always hoped for.


and it looks like it will be difficult to realize in the near future, it may take a long time so that the level of Southeast Asian football has really developed rapidly. If you compare Southeast Asian and other Asian football, it is clear that the difference is clearly visible, and let alone for the World Cup level, for the 2023 Asian Cup level, Vietnam, Thailand or Indonesia, seems difficult to win the championship trophy.
Few of the countries in the Asian continent that have a relationship with the game of football come to a very good position when I am the Japan and Korea Republic of and Saudi Arabia. These three teams will perform best in the Asia Cup. Because we know that these three teams always participate in the World Cup and they perform well on the World Cup stage So I think these three teams are very strong in the Asia Cup
Well there is something that I really like about what they talk about, many of these Asian teams have begun to make themselves known by applying their good football, and as I said before, I am fascinated by the Japanese style of football, I appreciate that it is a very peculiar team, besides the Japanese in almost everything they stand out, and obviously this Asian Cup is exciting because I know that in this continent what they need most is a good title, they imagine that the Soccer World Cup manages to stay in the Asian continent' would be crazy, most people think that they are going to go to South America, or Europe, that is where the greatest hopes are.
8593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: September 02, 2022, 07:20:57 PM
Has anyone noticed on YouTube that Carlsen is advertising some kind of casino? I don't remember the name, but I do remember the slogan "Zero Risk Gambling" hahaha. Judging by his participation in poker competitions and this advertisement, it can be assumed that he is increasingly immersed in the world of gambling. Is this just making money interesting or is he seriously interested in this area? I hope this is a passing fad, I would like to see him in the next cycles of the Candidates Tournament.
I have not seen this but there could be some very deep reasons for this new interest in gambling, I have seen chess go from humans being better than computers, then being evenly matched to a complete dominance of computers over humans, poker due to its nature is still a game in which humans are better than computers and most likely this will remain the case until very smart AI is developed, maybe Carlsen is frustrated with the fact that even if he is the best human chess player he cannot beat his digital opponents, and he would like to try poker as it is a game in which he could reach the true top, but this is speculation on my part.
The truth is that this really catches my attention, the fact that Carlsen leans towards games of chance is a reason that he can combine his intelligence for chess and apply it to the game, I don't think it's bad, of course this is mere speculation, but at Seeing Carlsen's level I don't think he gets into areas where he can lose easily and more so if it's about money, could he have discovered certain patterns in gamling and want to try? It would be crazy if he could do such a thing, but it is never ruled out, in any case the master moves he makes in chess are unique and worth highlighting, and it is most likely that he will use all that for gamblig.

I'm curious to see the point where robots can create artist stuff with their bodies (think dance, juggling and performance arts/expression) in a way that is cooler than with humans
maybe one day we'll go watch a play with only robots on the casting
that's gonna be curious

That will be very interesting, but let's not be surprised the day these things are seen normally, now things in chess can happen in different ways, there is already artificial intelligence, I don't know if there is still the ajederez21.com page, something like that, there They calculated the rank of each one, but I have my doubts, I think there were already bots playing chess there, because there was a group of people who played like masters, there were some blitzes that I played, 3 minutes long and wow that was impressive.

Now I am looking for a good platform to find a way to play but other than playing with bots, I would like a good online tournament.
8594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brasileirão 2022 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: September 02, 2022, 04:53:10 PM
Today Palmeiras and Flamengo are ahead of any team in Brazil, and the difference is becoming bigger in a way that looks like Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain
I'm talking about this year only ok

When you see a match it's clear that both have a strong main team, and strong spare players in any positions, and they brought even more players to make teams stronger

Palmeiras and Flamengo will win Brasileiro and Libertadores this year
Yes, currently they are "dominating everything", especially Palmeiras who are having an incredible season!

It's a possibility, Palmeiras can win Libertadores and Flamengo maybe the Brasileirão!
Let's see how these teams will perform during the year

Well, I think that many of us who follow Brazilian football agree that they could be some good victories for Palmeiras, and without a doubt it would be very nice if they could win the Libertadores, because for me the Libertadores is a very important title, in general Palmeiras has a good lineup in this championship, what I don't like is when they play against the European champions it seems that all the power goes away and they don't play as they should, this reminds me of Santos from Brazil when Neymar was there and they had to play against him Barcelona that Ney almost knelt down to Messi, that was when they took Ney to Barcelona.

I try to not think about the long term, I just put some bets to have fun, if you see my posts you'll find that I prefer to bet on my team Corinthians, because it's a special thing, watching your team winning and you earning some money too is almost addictive.

Here you are betting against the "rule" of sports bettors: you should never bet on the games of our favorite team.  Roll Eyes
Usually when you bet on the favorite team, you tend to always bet on a favorable result, you bet on emotion and not on reality.   Tongue
Of course, this varies from club to club, and from situation to situation.

But, the way bookmakers make good money is because they know that most punters, bet for emotion and not for reason.

I agree with you, although it is somewhat hard to go against our teams, which we always carry in our hearts, but reason must be stronger than emotions, I have a friend who did not pay attention to betting on his favorite team , and he bet the rival, and the worst happened to him, his team won, and he didn't know whether to celebrate or be sad, on the one hand his favorite team won and on the other hand he was sad because he lost his money, from From that experience he told me that he was always going to bet on his favorite team, that he didn't care if he lost, that that was a decision he was going to make and that he was going to apply it to every team from then on.
8595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: RUIZ VS ORTIZ SUN, SEP 04, 2022 10PM ET EASTERN TIME/ on: September 02, 2022, 02:53:46 PM

So whoever loss in this fight, he needs to make some big decisions in the future, whether to continue to work or just quit it completely.

For Ortiz maybe retirement is possible if he lose, but for Ruiz, I think he is still young and can still fight. Well, I'm not thinking he would retire though as I am confident he will win this fight and would probably have a big fight after this.

Well, those are major decisions, although I would choose to stay longer, the older the boxers are, the more experience they have, and there is something that many boxers do not see, and that is that the older boxers have almost everything calculated, because they know their bodies very well. and they are capable of doing anything to win a fight because they know every inch of what can happen technically, for me it is a great option if it is for the benefit of the sport and not for the business model that boxing represents, this is something that must be noted, that the boxer is always with the best of all dispositions and goes out to give a good show.

You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.

TBH, i have not watch a single fight involving Ortiz so thanks for this info mate, with this i'm now inclined to a win by Ruiz via knockout because judging from his Johua fight, he is aggressive and relentless so if Ortiz gasses out in the middle rounds then i think it would be over for him under the ninth round. Ruiz by KO @1.78 is not bad at all, much way better than the ML.

Wow this is something that can certainly happen, but to say that Ortiz will give a knockout is something quite strong, because if it happens as they say, Ortiz may go out with everything to give a knockout, but if he does not give it, all the wear and tear that implies Putting in to give a knockout is exhausting, if just resisting exhausts you, making the effort at the beginning is a good thing, but with results, otherwise you have to stick to what comes later, there are boxers who know how to fight sticking to what comes to them, and This may be a virtue of Ruiz, also if the ocsa happen like this, he has no other choice unless Ruiz goes with the same strategy and looks for a knockout, which would be very interesting.
8596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 02, 2022, 03:07:56 AM
The opening ceremony is probably going to be spectacular, the crowds are going to be there supporting their local team, but honestly, I don't think Qatar has any chances of winning against Ecuador.

In my mind the best result they can get would be a draw, probably 0 - 0.

Remember the match between Cameroon and Argentina in 1990 (and that was despite two of the Cameroon players getting red card in the second half)? Or the match between Senegal and France in 2002? Or do you remember Hristo Stoichkov's Bulgaria defeating Germany in 1994? Upsets always happen during the world cup. Ecuador is not among the top-10 teams and there is a chance that Qatar may manage to defeat them. But the chances are low. At least on paper, Qatar is much weaker than Ecuador.
Well for Andie it is a secret that the opening ceremony will be on another level, I look forward to having the privilege of seeing it, although it would be much more exciting to see it there in Qatar on the same stage, the same stadium, some who will have that joy they will enjoy it to the fullest, I also wanted to point out that the opening matches are the prelude to everything, people get excited and Qatar is a team that can win this World Cup and go far, Ecuador is not very good, sometimes when they say deflection They do it in a great way, I think this match will be good, although to be honest I would like a victory for Qatar.

For me, Spain scores high on several aspects. They have a number of very experienced players. They are not overdependent on individual players (such as Ronaldo for Portugal and Lukaku for Belgium). And their team bonding is very good (unlike the case with teams such as France). And since Spain is a Mediterranean country, I am sure that it will be easier for them to adjust to climate conditions in Qatar, when compared to the other European teams. Now the question comes to team balance. This is my concern. Forward is not as strong as midfield or defense.
Surely big plus point for few top European countries because they can't depend on one or two players they have enough power and skilled players those can do much better in this event because they have enough experience in clubs which are going to help them in this event as well.

As team event and have too many quality players are surely big advantage for many countries instead of few countries those depend on just one or two players just because of this we are sure teams like Spain, Germany, France and Brazil can do much better than expectations they are coming with their squads and have nothing with just one or two players.

Of all the countries that are for the World Cup, Spain had not sounded much to me either, we all talk about Brazil, Germany, but it is true, for now in all of Europe the champions are the Spanish through Real Madrid and that is one of things to take into account.

Of course, I liked Spain a lot when Xavi was there, Iker Casillas, among others who were from that time, for me now I don't know how good the boys are, I haven't seen Spain play much but they must be playing very well, it will be interesting to see this team play against all the others. Spain can very well reach the final, I think they have it all.
8597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 02, 2022, 02:23:59 AM
the first coach dismissal of the season is complete. arminia bielefeld sacked the coach Uli Forte. the relegated club started the season with four defeats in its first four matches. most recently, the east westphalians lost 0-2 at home against hamburger sv and find themselves in 17th place in the table...

I was still thinking about that yesterday when I wrote about Braunschweig and looked at the table beforehand. I though: It is about time for discussions about a change of coach at Braunschweig or Bielefeld. But I did not think that there would already be dismissals but that discussions would start first. But it certainly was not easy for Bielefeld to sack the new coach after a few weeks. That will also lead to discussions about the sports director.
To tell you the truth, I don't like it when people are fired, because it's their job, but in reality the work that Uli Forte did was not very outstanding, besides, he is in a very competitive sport and he cannot leave anything to the light, much less the ddetails because these details are the ones that have a great influence when it comes to having an apparent result and in football these things are noticed beforehand.

The defeat against Hamburguer SV could be seen coming, but that team has a great level of football, the bad thing is that it has dropped a lot in the table, and to get up from that position it is really very hard and I think there would have to be good luck to their side.

I thought we would see the Pauli team at the top of the points table this season. But this season their performance is weaker. They have won only 2 out of 6 matches and managed to get only 8 points. They are in the 11th position in the points table. Despite Pauli's decline, Paderborn and Darmstadt are playing well. I think both these teams will be able to qualify for the Bundesliga.

St pauli, the results that they have produced are not satisfactory at all
so far, they have played six matches
as a team, they aren't performing well, winning two games, they are expected to be at the top of the table but they are more towards the bottom right now
but obviously, there is a long way to go in this season and i think this will change, but they will have to improve a lot and play a lot better compared to what they did in the first few matches till now

Paderborn is still playing very well, they are able to hold on to the first position in the second Bundesliga, and i expect them to finish in the top two

Well, there is still a lot to play for this season, we are at a time when they cannot stay or be careless, we are aware that this team was one of the defenders of last season, it gave many of us a lot of pain because they have not been promoted to the Bundesliga, everything was very even, even teams that we did not think were going to go far managed to position themselves among the top positions, in fact I was one of the people who advised some casino and sports betting sites to put the 2nd Bundesliga as an option for bet, this for the amount of emotions that aroused, I am sure that this season will be the same or better.
8598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17 on: September 02, 2022, 01:54:30 AM

Middle East is more suitable because it is a neutral place to fight for the both boxers rather than fighting again in American soil where Bivol might face the same situation he had in their first encounter.

But a cruiserweight fight for Canelo might be too much for him as we already saw his performance in light-heavy, I mean what's more if he will fight in cruiserweight? He might be strong but his moves will be much calculated by his foes as he won't be that fast enough in cruiserweight. Anyway, let's see Canelo's decision after this trilogy.

Yes, after this trilogy, Canelo's camp may explore to which division he wanted to bring his greatness. He needs to take care

of this upcoming fight first, as he needs to re-claim his name after that defeat for Bivol. They might be taking that road once

the fight was already done. If he concludes this rivalry in winning this upcoming fight. There are many options as Canelo is still in his

prime, he can choose what direction for his career and for more flowing money inside his pocket.

I really don't know if it would be appropriate for Canelo to look for a fight against Bivol again, because in view of the time that has passed I don't think he will have much chance with it, I think it would be something different and he could have a possible behavior that would return to win Bivol, the Russian wherever he is, wherever he is, Bivol knows that he has to go with everything and he will not let any title be taken away, besides Canelo is a boxer who has a lot of talent and presence, beating him makes him rise Whatever state of mind, for me Canelo has to train with much more effort, have the same fear as when he was a rookie to be able to do much more than with what he has now.

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

First fight wasn't even close. Golovkin had a huge advantage and in most of the neutral scorecards, he won the fight. However the judges thought otherwise. And it was not just Adelaide Byrd (118-110 in favor of Canelo). Even the other two judges (Dave Moretti and Don Trella) also gave Canelo more rounds than what he won actually. Trella gave a score of 114-114, while Moretti scored the fight as 115-113 in favor of Golovkin. Most of the neutral observers had a score of 116-112 or 117-111 in favor of Golovkin.

I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.
8599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: September 01, 2022, 11:31:12 PM
That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

Even a rematch clause will be another story as we don't know who will be on the A-side in their rematch, it could be Spence and it could be Crawford, we don't really know. One thing is for sure, there will be a rematch as long as the fight ends in a decision because if the fight ends in TKO or KO then I guess they will struggle to sell the rematch fight because it's already clear who's more dominant. But yes, I'd say that this will be much interesting if their rivalry will reach trilogy.

Well, speculating here, I think there is a possibility that one of the two boxers, whoever it is, if they get to fight and one loses by a K.O, the emotional blow will be exorbitant, and it is obvious that he will want a rematch yes or yes, and if it happens , the boxer will look for a K.O in any way, this will be a bit traumatic, I think that the best thing would be for the one who manages to win to do it as an effort of both and with very balanced forces between the two, that is, that there is the maximum effort between both boxers, I think that if the fight takes place like this, it would be a very nice scenario to ask for a rematch, because there would be much more speculation for that rematch.

It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.

But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.

That's true however both sides should secure a rematch clause to make sure that a rematch will happen soon if one will pursue it and so that no one will avoid. There will be demand for sure if the fight is close enough but a rematch won't be possible if one of them starts running after named as the undisputed boxer in welterweight division.

And it's possible to happen. We witness that with Mayweather after beating Pacquiao.

Didn't give Pacquiao a rematch to remain undisputed after winning all the belts. Not sure, but in my opinion this is also
been discussed and part of the negotiation.

If the losing side asks for a rematch or secures a rematch, it's a good rivalry to take place, a possible trilogy if in case
both of them win a fight right? looking forward to hear updates regarding to this upcoming fights.

Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

Well, I don't know how many Mayweather fans are, but we all know what he did with Pacquiao, in boxing there should always be rematches, no matter how strong they are, they should exist, and I didn't like that time there was that fight where Mayweather seemed to be in A speed race in the ring, where you could only see a boxer and a rabbit running, where everything focused on the technical, where many were not left with a taste of the sport and above all very badly the judges, this is something that I did not like and I hope to never see a fight like this again, or by Pacquiao but by a boxer like Mayweather, and Mayweather fans excuse me, but it had to be said.
8600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 on: September 01, 2022, 10:59:59 PM
The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.

Well I don't know, I think Shakur is an excellent boxer, and Conceicao has done a good job, although the statistics do not favor him at all, the numbers can also have their own faults, but it fails in itself, but in what in this case nothing is written, there is the surprise factor, and if the odds and obviously the bets are going to focus on Shakur, I do not want to imagine the amount of money that anyone who bets on Conceicao will win a large amount of money and also the boxer He would be positioning himself as one of the best that have entered the ring, in the same way, this fight is still missing, any data is good as the date approaches to make the best decision.

^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

I don't know who is the manager of Joe Cordina but his promoter is Eddie Hearn, they are already eyeing for Shakur Stevenson next because the latter holds the WBC and WBO but the deal is still blurred because Bob Arum has also issues with the Matchroom boxing which is also under Eddie Hearn. I can remember that Bob Arum says that the Matchroom cannot produce many viewers that's why the fight won't be profitable.

There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.
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