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8581  Economy / Economics / Re: Big FUD attack by Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and Charlie Munger on: May 19, 2018, 04:30:46 AM
I think that all the big guys like Bill Gates, Donald Trump and other rich people already have their bitcoin safe somewhere around =)
I noticed some of Warren Buffet's follower trying to tell him how wrong he is. What do we expect to hear from these old men in the first place where manipulation and monopoly has helped them to where they are ?

Asides that, they are smart enough to talk rubbish and admit it at the end that they really did say rubbish since they have been able to buy in enough at the dip. I only pity those who listen to their trash and act on them, only to come crying when bitcoin hits $1m in the nearest future and telling us their history on how they missed to buy now.

OP must be right. It is more like a threat to them and they see it more like, if this thing ends up succeeding, a lot is going to end up disrupted. When the big dudes are condemning it, then we should know better that we should be buying more than listening to them. All they want is to tap into the digital gold at the best low price possible since they could not see the future from the onset buy into it. Those who are smart will always know this should be the time to be accumulating.
8582  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto and automobile on: May 18, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Car dealers that accept cryptos in the USA Market is in the link  below

http://spendbitcoins.com/places/c/car-dealers/


You can easily find a car dealer online and go pay him in bitcoin and get your new lambo...
Thanks a lot for sharing this and at least it is good to know that in most developed countries, we are beginning to see car dealers who are accepting bitcoin as payment for car purchase. It will really be interesting to see more like this as this would really give people the idea why using bitcoin more as a currency will even help its value strengthened in the long run. Whichever way, as long as exchanges are there, we can still buy anything we want, until we get to start seeing more of this in other countries globally.
8583  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC falling like a rock on: May 18, 2018, 02:31:24 PM
Hello guys,

Does anybody know why BTC is falling like a rock within last hours?

If there any specific reason or just a normal correction?

Thanks and cheers.
every situation in the market is normal and temporary which is it will stabilize again after it gained enough strength and will continue to bullish and touch down new ATH, so no need to worry if it falls like a rock 'cause surely it will soar again and again that is the fact after the worst situation . So just relax and put more patience on it.  
For the long term view, situation in every market can be pretty good, but at the same time, you also have to understand that the possibility of falls can still always be around the corner most of the time. The thing here with bitcoin is that nothing is guaranteed and to me we are still in a pretty much bear market and anything can simply still happen but like you said, it does not really matter since in the long term bitcoin is still bullish.

Everyone here wants a new ATH everyday. No exceptions. But, practically market is doing its best. There are sometimes the whales are manipulating but now a days those chances are very less. $10k still remain a big barrier physiologically. Hence we may expect range bound for some more weeks.
8584  Economy / Speculation / Re: Chinese ministry to publish 'blockchain ratings' on: May 18, 2018, 01:32:53 PM
https://bitcoinist.com/china-release-cryptocurrency-ratings-ranks-ethereum-1st-bitcoin-13th/

And here they are.

ETH is 1st. BTC 13th. Steem... 2nd?

This is almost as informative as those Weiss ratings which were going to transform the world, in return for a few hundred dollars to read them.
I can see how much China is so obsessed with centralization now Grin.
Not like I am surprised anyway as they obviously never liked the sound of decentralization right from the start due to their normal controlling nature of governance. I see this as just a means to get back in their foolish way as they just keep failing and seeing how the space is growing each and every day, it is making them extremely sick to the head to come up with a rating like this.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion; this is theirs, and who really cares about anything that comes out from that country anyway?
8585  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is there any chance to fall down BTC price at 5k again? on: May 18, 2018, 08:39:46 AM
Well ever since i joined this party of cryptocurrency i learned that everything is really possible to think that few months back bitcoin's price was at almost 20k usd, it's just a matter of when and if.
Not even just in cryptocurrency, but in everything, anything can happen. Why does the OP think that even for traders, there is the necessity of using a stop loss ?

That is the basic idea and it is not all about trying to figure out what is going to be happening in the next few days, because you cannot even know what will happen in the next few minutes. However, anyone who is trading will blend with trend and anyone who is holding should hold and buy lower for the future. Simple as that.

There is a chance to everything since it is a market and it is however the market wants to move that it is going to move, based on fundamentals and so on. Anything is possible; we may end up seeing $5k or lower, and in few months could even go to test the previous ATH. At the end, it is just the trend we are only looking at to know what is going to be happening next. Practically, there is just no one who can give you an answer to OP's question when simply the future is what no one can know.
8586  Economy / Speculation / Re: Isn't it FUD!!! on: May 18, 2018, 07:55:31 AM
People are afraid of having a great change in the price just after the consensus 2018. But I am not sure about the prediction. My thinking is that after the consensus, price of cryptos may go down or up. It all about the impact of feedback come from the conference. In this situation, I am just holding myself from any trade. Though I believe price can only change for the fluctuation of demand and supply.
Yes, FUD has been one of the main things that have been affecting the market for a while now and there is really no news to really affect the price or bring about some huge buying momentum. However, there will always be fluctuations and it is not like one cannot still find a way to trade them, it is likely possible that we may end up seeing a reversal or even more dips, but I believe only time can actually give us that information.

Bitcoin is known for recovering from any depth of falling down and it has proved it many times in its 9+ years of life cycle. This year may be a different one from what we had in 2017 and similarly 2019 also will be very different from this year. Lets just hope and bitcoin will never break our hopes like the past occurrences.
8587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Newbie question about bonuses on: May 18, 2018, 05:42:58 AM
Yes the deposit bonus is what I was talking about... e.g. deposit x amount and they match it. I am well aware of turn over requirements, these are standard with most fiat bookmakers too.

So you are saying that keeping your anonymity by using a VPN is not true? I am limited at almost every corporate fiat bookmaker available to me because I win money. There are a lot of people saying bitcoin sports books can’t limit you or if they do, you simply get a new email and make a new account using a VPN. But you are saying this is not actually the case? Thankyou
If you do not want to end up having your account banned, VPN is the last thing you want to use, so that should not even be an option. Secondly, of course, you should have known that those who own these platforms are not babies and they would have considered all the loopholes before even building the platform, otherwise, with the likes of you thinking alike like this, you would have ruined them and make them pack their stuffs and go back to the farm.
8588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING ADDICTION: when it begin, and how to stop. Let me help you on: May 18, 2018, 05:00:06 AM
Although you have good intentions, I seriously doubt that what you say will help anyone to recover from gambling addiction. For people with serious problems the only solution is to quit gambling forever, not even one small bet. That same person can do this either with his willpower or by self-exclusion and help from friends, relatives and maybe psychiatrists.
It is not a bad idea that he shared it though, but most addicts already know some of these things, but they cannot just help it.
The difference between someone who is in control and someone who is not is that some allow gambling to get the full control over them while some put themselves in control, which is one thing some people do not understand and instead of realizing that if you are gambling

You should either be doing it because you want to have fun or not doing it but whichever way, never gamble to concentrate on the winning as you will make bad decisions that leads to addiction most of the time.
8589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did the use of online gambling increase with crypto moneys? on: May 17, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
Crypto has been making the online gambling flourished, previously before crypto was invented the gambling is not as crowded as now and only several countries can gamble, now with crypto we can gamble anonymously from home and we can gamble almost from every country, crypto has created a new era of online casino and with online casino crypto also grow stronger
Yes, it really has and those who never even got to know about online gambling before like me have actually gotten to have a taste of it. I guess the fact that within the community itself, we have seen so many gambling website popping up and curiosity which almostevery human has, obviously got us trying it one way or the other. I really would say a lot of exposure to online gambling came about as a result of cryptocurrency for a lot of reasons so many people have mentioned already.
8590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think ethereum is the best crypto next to bitcoin. on: May 17, 2018, 05:43:12 PM
I started to like crypto and being an enthusiast with it lately. I had read many articles around in the internet and found some good attributes regarding on the  different kinds of crypto in the crypto market. And i found out that ethereum is a platform which also supports mostly of the altcoins being introduce by  its mean using ICO. Conducting a project from the crowds budget and in return from the contributions are the giving of tokens instead. And afterwards the tokens will be used in an exchange they prefer to partner with. That is why i am taking credit to ether as best crypto next to bitcoin because of the platforms being used by most of the crypto as well. What do you think? isn't it ether is the best crypto?


Most people will agree with you ( include me ) because until now, ethereum is second number is every list crypto web, the price is expensive than another and become alternative send and received payment. Many benefits we can get if use Ethereum as second income and you can use it to built on line shop using etjereum as payment. Try now and good luck all.
I guess this is pretty glaring for everyone to see knowing that bitcoin and Ethereum are basically like the king and queen in this market respectively and they are both bringing so much value with a lot of support.

There are so many coins that have sprung up to want to do it better than bitcoin as a currency and so many that have also sprung up to want to do it better than Ethereum as a smart contract, but one thing with this is that, once you are leading, and you are not lagging, it is always going to be hard for a competitor to catch up which brings about the first mover advantage thingy.
8591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Staking or Mining? on: May 17, 2018, 05:12:55 PM
Which do people prefer? Staking/Masternodes or mining?


I personally prefer setting up masternodes...

You COMPLETELY control the collateral and the ROI is often MUCH better than staking and mining.

However, they can be pretty difficult to set up. But I found this cool service that guides you through the entire process for only $50 and can get your masternode set up in only a couple hours...

Here's a link to the thread >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3213738
Staking is better, it is the future, we can´t mine with graphic cards forever! It damages our planet!
Yeah, it is really the way to go. Mining is not even something one can easily count on these days with the way things are changing pretty fast with technology and you may be surprised that there is just so little that even your GPU miners will end up mining at the end of the day.

Staking is much easier to set up and requires nothing much compared to mining and that is one of the reasons why it would be basically ignorance that would make anyone to want to go into mining now unless they really have the bucks to set up a huge mining farm.
8592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO Market Reopening in South Korea on: May 17, 2018, 04:35:22 PM
ICO Market Reopening in South Korea

South Korea Considers Reopening ICO Market

Last year, South Korea banned any new Initial Coin Offerings (ICO) from being held in the country, but a new bill introduced by South Korean lawmakers could open the ICO market back up, albeit one now strictly supervised by government regulators. The passage of the bill could signal the start of a less FUD-y crypto stance coming from the country.

read more, https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-as-a-security-ico-market-reopening-in-south-korea-and-rat-poison-hodlers-digest-apr-30-may-6
Oh, so what happened to them now ?
They are trying to realize they are going to end up missing out at the end or what ? Bunch of hypocrites Roll Eyes.

What most governments are not realizing is that, trying to form a resistance or a wall against the presence of cryptocurrency in their country is just going to end up making them lag behind in the long run and by then, they probably may have been too late. Whatever negativity they want to bring to the table will only end up hurting them at the end and it is good they are trying to take a U-turn.
8593  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cryptocurrency market to suffer from strong correction on: May 17, 2018, 04:07:39 PM
Even if they are the biggest organization in the world they can't control the value of bitcoin because all of the people who are using bitcoins are the stake holder and no one can say that in the future the value of it like that. Only time can tell to us what will happen in future.
I even wonder why sometimes we pay much attention to things like this. Market generally is volatile and there is absolutely nothing anyone can tell me about the future now that I will believe either in the bear or the bull perspective.

Yeah, I believe in the potential of bitcoin in the long run to give a sweet value based on real life adoption and usage, but assuming a strong correction like the OP said, or just assuming a huge price for the future, is just what has turned this market into a purely speculative market and that is not helping.
8594  Economy / Marketplace / Re: LOOKING TO INVEST MY LIFE SAVINGS NEED ADVICE on: May 17, 2018, 12:41:26 PM
Making big bets in crypto like that is a big no. You could invest your life savings if you will only allot a 20% - 30% of it because it's still safe and remember that it's your life savings, so you should have some money in case of emergency.

Finding the right asset to invest in too is really not an easy thing to do. You really have to get lucky at some point to be able to invest in a currency that ends up getting pumped even more than you expect after holding for a long time. It is surely always good to diversify, but one should always be careful in this case as well as not all altcoins are worth diversifying into and you cannot really tell the future of any altcoin unless you just want to play safe by investing in bitcoin and any other top crypto.
Well, you are right in a way as luck may still have some little bit of part to play but not totally as every decision we make on any area of our investment is totally dependent on us. There are so many ways for one to invest wisely and to know exactly what one is investing into, but that is it. As much as investing everything can pay him in the long run if he gets lucky, it may also jeopardize his entire savings, so the best way is to always try as much as possible to play safe and take calculated risks.

It may be enticing looking at how the way the crypto space has panned over the years but it would be foolish for one to be putting their eggs in one basket when if it drops or end up not favoring one, it can be so easy to make some emotional decisions that would not eventually be in our favor or end up losing everything.
8595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Keep these things in mind when you are into crypto world on: May 17, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
Always be prepared that anything can happen, it could be upsetting or could be overwhelming. In crypto world there a lot of doors open to become wealthy, but on the other hand you have to be prepared that it is possible of losing too, that is the reality in crypyo industry. You must be a risk taker in joining crypto world😊
Yes, I agree that these are two sides of the same coin, here you can get a chance, but also lose it. So in our field of work we must have a cold mind and strong will. That would not be scared at the right time))
The good thing however is that, even if it is a two side of the same coin, you can always stand the better chance not to end up in the wrong side. This space may in a way be a gamble, but at the same time, it is a risk you can minimize when you have the knowledge to make the right decisions. A lot of people complain about ICOs being scams but they forget that they are mainly the ones at fault for not doing due diligence in the first place. It is necessary to always be vast in your area of investment to get the best from it.
8596  Economy / Economics / Re: New investor and prices on: May 17, 2018, 09:12:22 AM
If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?
With the current investors the price of bitcoin fluctuate well as most of them are traders and with some fluctuations they tend to buy and sell and so the fluctuation continues, while if new investors will come then the demand of bitcoin will increase and this will increase the price of bitcoin. That is the fact of the coming of the new investors to the market of bitcoin. That is why I often suggest to invite more and more people to invest in bitcoin.
We cannot say all the new investors are traders but we can say for sure that we will always have traders in any fluctuating market. The general fluctuations in the market is possibly not caused by investors who are just in their own little way investing, and bigger investors will apparently use the OTC method.

What we always have in the market is more like traders trying to do their thing, with the whales playing with emotions on how they want the market to tend towards which is pretty much something we will never stop seeing either with newer investors or none, but traders are investors too anyway.
8597  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is a constant rise in the price of Bitcoin, important? on: May 17, 2018, 08:33:27 AM
The rise of bitcoin is driven by many factors. In the end, the rise of BTC prices is due to the increasing perfection of its investment attributes. BTC no breakthrough in usage scenarios, but as an investment, BTC has already is an important investment target, whose nature is more and more like gold, its use value is no longer important, important is its increasingly recognized as an investment.
The usage scenario is not something we are getting to see now, but hopefully we may get to see this in the long run and as it is now, we may just end up stuck to having speculative asset in our hands. As more people keep seeing it as an investment alone, and then hoarding it, the more the speculative attribute of it keeps increasing. However, the OP was right, as there are just some times you need to be smart even while you are trying to hold for the greater good.

This isn't an investment used to be but to take profits and enjoy during the ATH is what others are forgetting. The fact that everyone is becoming greedier due to the potential that we can see to bitcoin but at the very end of it, we fall. There's nothing wrong in holding but don't forget to take your profit.
Right, I was actually forced to learn how to trade and find a pattern to be able to get the best of the market as a result of most of the things the OP said and that over the years has ended up giving me a better position than someone who is just busy hoarding all through. It has made me to focus on the future which I would not apparently be missing and also be enjoying the present profits. I believe this is where my mouth is and better to concentrate on getting the best of it.
8598  Economy / Economics / Re: Why BTC is tremendously undervalued on: May 17, 2018, 04:38:43 AM
I think its because of those bitcoin whales they controlling the value of Cryptocurrencies. Those whales are one of the biggest factors of every cryptocurrencies and the other one is government. They controlling the value bitcoin was dumped right now and some other dont trust bitcoin cause didnt know how bitcoin whales works.
Who are really the whales ? The hedge funds, institutions and so on, and they are like gangs as far as I am concerned.
Firstly, you would expect that since that most of them are already late to the show, they will find a way to shake the weak hands off the market as much as possible, and until they are pretty sure they do not have more to shake out, then they keep distributing and accumulating to get even more position in the market.

At the end, the value of bitcoin is far low compared to what it is going to be in the future and it only pains me that those who have been complaining that these set of people have been stealing from them still keep dishing out their future to them.
8599  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading or not? on: May 16, 2018, 05:18:39 PM
Many time in cryptocurrency, the coin that suffer serious loss rarely recover immediately. If the coin is quality coin backed by good tech and good developers with living community, such coin may bounce back in a year!
Nowadays,prices is on dump I think its not a good Idea to trade this time because we can get losses due to the fluctuation on its prices. Be patience in terms of volatility because this is our way to earn bigger profit when prices pumps up.
The easiest form of trading is following trend as there are so many indicators that can always help with that, but the problem is that a lot of people are too lazy to learn. Ichimoku cloud strategy on a 4 hour chart can even easily help anyone to always blend with trend, know when to set a stop loss, when to buy into a market and when he should be selling.

A lot of people just believe in buying low and selling high and also having patience even when they are losing in a trade since they do not know when to be leaving the market to buy back lower as that sucks at most of the times. With patience, anyone can beat the market to achieve the preferred profits.
8600  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The pump and dump tactic on: May 16, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
The only way to survive those moments is to know when you are buying and when you are getting those huge profits, do not get greedy to be expecting more. Most times, the best thing you can do to yourself is to keep selling bit by bit into FOMO as it can pop at any time, and come back correcting. As long as you can do this and have a target for your particular investment, then you should be fine. A lot of people always feel they can outplay the market, but it would always be one step ahead of you and best is to play safe.
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