Thanks very much. I haven't recieved communications about direct shares.

Hi all

I had shares in the following companies on btc.co

Asicminer.pt - I have forum posts
AMC-pt- I have forum posts
Basic mining

Is there any way to redeem them?

Thanks

I had amc-pt shares on btc-co. Is there any way to redeem their value?

Thanks

Hi all

I'm a little unclear on the details and I have read much of the thread.

I had asicminer.pt shares on btc-tc. Are they recoverable?

Thanks for your patience.

I would also like to know this is anyone knows.

I've read through much material but the situation is a little unclear to me. Is it possible to get my bitcoins back from the site or not?

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I played it a couple of times and didn't like itl.

Welcome. I don't understand newer people's obsession with mining. It a waste of time and money for the average person now.

Which bronze age nomads?

"I can guarantee you the rise of crypto currencies was high on their agenda...."

I doubt it but maybe in the future. Cryptocurrencies are barely a gnat on the rump of the world's financial system for now.

This. Forgot the Rockefellers as well. 

Metalair sounds interesting. How is that going?

"If you want to get away from the nwo, complain to all web site services to get away from google."

You can't get away from the NWO. It exists in your head so wherever you are, there it is.

Oh, 1k in fiat. Got it. I thought 1k was lot for a noob.

1k bitcoin? How did you manage that?

There is no such thing as the "NWO" and the Illuminati no longer exists and when it did exist it was just one of many pro-enlightenment clubs. These concepts exist in imagination land and function as empty containers into which people with a poor education to fear ratio can pour their worries. They are designed to circumvent the need for nuance and complicated argumentation and replace them with simple labels and concepts, and unfortunately these things really are required to argue in politics and economics.

 At best these conspiracy theories are a poor substitute for real criticisms of the very real problems with global finance and the fractional reserve banking system, and the way that powerful private interests control politics. At worst they degenerate into outright lunacy involving, variously; alien reptiles, the Devil, a mass plan to depopulate the planet (which appears to be going swimmingly), and just about anything else you can imagine.

In all NWO theories there has to be a "them", a group behind everything. However, nobody within the subculture can agree on what the them is, exactly. So you get; The Bilderberg Group, The Vatican, The British (I've seen that and its hilarious), The UN, The Devil (again), Aliens, Alien Lizards (again, David Icke's prefered choice).

Its a small point but I find the idea of them trying to create a one world government amusing. This is the phrase that conspiracy theorists use all the time. I think you mean a one government world. There is of course, only going to be one world.

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That's the problem. You are expecting too much of bitcoin (you are expecting it to be the lynchpin of a technocratic Utopia apparently). The best bitcoin will ever be is a medium of exchange. That's it. Even if it becomes really big and replaced fiat currency, which is extremely unlikely, that's all it will be.

Bitcoin can solve some big problems and take us forward in a few specific areas. If you want to change the whole nature of society, however, you should not invest all of your hopes in bitcoin.

"Firstly your pound depreciation in one year is a very selective statistic. There are other years it gained 25%. In fact 20 years ago in 1993 it was nearly exactly the same USD/GBP rate as today."

Recently the trend has been downwards and it is worse if compared with a broader range of currencies, or compared to gold, because of course the US dollar is also weakening. So the pound is weakening against a currency which is itself weakening. My first statistic was selective but my second wasn't.

"Regarding investing, of course it's hard to match inflation with bank deposits alone, but add in bonds/property/equities and it's very easy over the long-term. Yes there's some risk added, but over the longer term the volatility is averaged away. Is Bitcoin riskless?"

By bonds I assume you mean corporate bonds. Government securities are worse than bank interest due to quantitative easier and reckless fiscal policies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/14/uk-treasury-bonds-record-low
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-22/u-s-two-year-yield-reaches-one-month-low-amid-pimco-policy-bets.html

Corporate bonds are not friendly to retail investors for a variety of reasons. Equities? Property? Maybe and maybe not. All depends on the decisions you make and how things work out.

"Quoting that currencies lost 90% over the century is again true but nonsense, no-one would have held their money in a zero-interest deposit account for 100 years. Do the same maths with a mixed invested portfolio and you'll find it out-performs inflation. Barclays produce a study of this over the last 100 years:"

http://the3500.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/equity-markets-and-the-upward-drift/

Note that all asset classes outperformed inflation.

Same for the USD:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100003705/dump-bonds-and-buy-equities-says-the-historic-data/
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If my argument about the decline of the fiat currencies over the 20th centuries is meaningless then so is that. We have entered some very interesting times in the last several decades with the mass printing of money being the new normal and interest rates held at genuinely historic lows for very extended periods of time. That historic data won't do you any good.

Your bullishness for equities is slightly concerning.The equities market is probably overvalued, in my opinion, and it is disconnected from the underlying economic reality. If you want heavy exposure to that market then that's your business.

My point is that holding fiat is less attractive than it has been for a very long time. If you don't believe me, ask the Cypriots, many of whom have lost their deposits, or portions thereof in a new "bail-in" model being piloted in preparation for its roll out across the globe. Many investors are pulling out of the equities market and putting their money in hard assets. These hard assets carry risk like equities but they are seen as a good hedge against inflation, devaluation and the potential for a debt crisis down the road.