If i wants to go with your calculations then they are outdated like the data you are using for 2022 and according to that the final multiplication of 11.5 to 557.714 will be around $60k to $65k and believe me. 90% of the crypto users have already made predictions that BTC will cross $70k easily and your calculations proved it right also.
Sorry budd Maybe you read it wrong, $557.714 is $557k So $557.714 x 11,5 = $6.413.711 (6M) |
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I don't know about others, but personal I don't consider Bitcoin to be the next generational Gold. Bitcoin has its own uniqueness and things that could possibly make it better than gold which it is already judging by your price calculation, which I really don't understand how come about them. The price of Bitcoin today's has no relationship with Gold I also don't think it should be compared. As Bitcoin is far more valued than Gold which is as a result of increase in demand.
If bitcoin were more valuable than gold then the price of bitcoin would be more than 11.5 x $557,714. That sounds really good So you compare 1BTC to ...what? And why not one gram, one ounce, one kilo, one pound, one ton of gold?
Besides, that's hardly an indicator.
Litecoin is four times as many as Bitcoin, do they trade at 1/4 price?
Nickel is more abundant than lead, why is it worth ten times more?
Maybe you have free time? i will be happy if you do the math for me.  OMG... it turns out that many have discussed it, but they are too lazy to count it |
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Conclusion: For me, Neutral can be used against users who are accused with valid evidence and it depends on the case, and if it's a fraud case or one that can harm other people, of course, the negatives are also not in doubt.
However, if the case cannot be proven valid, do not act, wait for the evidence, the evidence collected will be followed up, Neutral or Negative.
Yes I agree with you. But if there are no clear rules among the DTs, of course what is discussed here will evaporate when this thread sinks. I propose a few points which may be worth considering 1. Thread rules 2. The judgment thread can only be opened if the OP has preliminary evidence and preliminary analysis 3. Tread appeals must also bring evidence of the defense 4. Tags are given when the results have been decided (especially red tags) 5. Tags can be temporary (Have a certain period of time / permanent) 6. Neutral tags that don't have proof can be with better language (without judging) like = This account is under surveillance in 30 days |
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What do you think is the ideal bitcoin price? I've read predictions of people who believe bitcoin will be worth $100,000, some believe bitcoin will reach $1 million Let's calculate the price of bitcoin when aligned with gold The total amount of Gold [2016] : 244,000,000 kgs sourceThe total amount of Bitcoin : 21,000,000 btc
Gold : 244,000,000 kgs x $48,000/kg = $11,712,000,000,000 Bitcoin : 21,000,000 btc x $30,000/btc = $630,000,000,000 If the gold marketcap is divided by the number of bitcoins then:$11,712,000,000,000 : 21,000,000 btc = $557,714/btc [Current price of bitcoins $30,000/btc] If the bitcoin marketcap is divided by the number of gold then:$630,000,000,000 : 244,000,000 kgs = $2,581/kg [Current price of gold $48,000/kg]So the current bitcoin price is too cheap or the gold price is too expensive? or should bitcoin price be $557,714 and bitcoin head there?
The number of people on earth = 8,000,000,000 [2022] ~ sourceThe number of bitcoins divided by the number of people on earth 21.000.000 : 8,000,000,000 = 0.002625 btc The number of gold divided by the number of people on earth 244.000.000 : 8,000,000,000 = 0.0305 kg So the amount of bitcoin is only 1/11.5 of the amount of gold. Bitcoins are rarer. Even though we believe bitcoin is gold in the future, So, bitcoin can have a price of 11.5 x $557,714/btc |
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The title is a bit misleading but i'm curious as to everyone's feelings on the issue of accusing people before having proof and handing out a neutral tag while looking for or asking for evidence?
I really appreciate your sensitivity to the reputation board. I see you are one of the DTs who have broad views and wisdom I think, For a DT must have proof when giving the tag, because the tag of the DT has a big impact. I've thought of a few things you might need on a reputation board: 1. Thread rules 2. The judgment thread can only be opened if the OP has preliminary evidence and preliminary analysis 3. Tread appeals must also bring evidence of the defense 4. Tags are given when the results have been decided (especially red tags) 5. Tags can be temporary (Have a certain period of time / permanent) 6. Neutral tags that don't have proof can be with better language (without judging) like = This account is under surveillance in 30 days Then, if there is a tagging mistake, DT also at least apologizes If someone argues with a DT member, DT members will ~ them. So, there is no point in sharing an unbiased opinion. The only good thing is, If a DT member says, "This is correct, and that is not, " I have to agree with him as an average Joe. The better decision for an average Joe is to ignore the reputation board and start shitposting to make money from the signature campaign (Which I have been doing for the last couple of days).
I think it's useful, though the risk of arguing here has enormous ramifications. DT managed to make this thread so scary. DT also seems unwilling to be criticized, as if they are gods here, and they know everything Therefore I'm a bit confused, that while reading OP I'm more getting the impression that abusers are getting defended and abuser hunters are getting criticized, while there's not really anything to criticize in how DT is exposing abusers. Quite the opposite: I'm very grateful for acive members exposing shady activities. It's always very time consuming to research and compile the evidence. We also need to spend more Merit on these researches. DT is giving out trusts only if there's really a reason to leave it. And shitposters complaining about neutral trust are just ridiculous. Most times, complaining will even earn them more accusations, when DT starts digging. Why are these shitposter accounts always involved in so much shady stuff? You can almost bet on it that when a shitposter complains about a neutral trust, he will end up getting even more neutral trusts or even a negative trust.  I think there is no problem if you have proof. Wherever judgments should be based on evidence not assumptions. If you want to prevent buying and selling accounts, then the admin recommends prohibiting this action. Or require using escrow to avoid fraud. The problem here is, if the accusation have no evidence, as you do, you have a problem with timelord and you sue him in this thread. Do you think only DT should create a complaint thread if it receives a neutral or negative tag without any clear evidence? |
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We're going off topic too much, Let's see how JG finishes what he started |
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Thank you Mr. LoyceV.
I now know how to view the list of trusted and untrusted people. I won't delete my trust list even if the person doesn't trust me. I've read your thread explaining how the trust system works, I've understood it a bit
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What goes on here has nothing to do with the law. Here's the main problem: you keep talking like you understand how anything about how this forum works, and you clearly don't. I guess that works in favor of the idea that you're a newbie. On the other hand, you might be playing dumb sometimes on purpose. Regardless, I've wasted too much time on this subject already. A parting word of advice is to stop butting in on subjects which you know nothing about. Ignorance and ego are never a good combination. You're not helping your own reputation which you are so desperately trying to grow. You'll probably ignore this advice but you can't say I never tried to help you. Sounds like a good suggestion and deserves consideration. But you also need to remember this, don't give threats or intimidation once again because of your strength as a DT.
So what did you do that wasn't based on a legal concept? or maybe with the law of the jungle? Yes... maybe you've wasted time to discuss with me. Or sometimes people run away from the discussion when the argument isn't enough But I like to discuss with you. thanks |
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Amazing... a breathtaking level of hubris on display.
First of all, you don't "respect all the decisions that exist." If you did, you wouldn't immediately tell JG - who has been here nearly 6 years longer than you - what he should be doing. You've been here for a month now. How could you possibly have developed a grasp of what should be done in this situation? You clearly haven't. But the fact that you believe you have requires a staggering degree of overconfidence if we are to believe you are actually a newbie. You're quickly becoming your own rby situation.
I don't know what to say to you. Why does everyone think registering here is like registering at school? Yes, if someone has just registered for school, maybe he doesn't know anything. This is the common thread of judgment, of course related to the law. You can buy a law book on the side of the road for $3. I don't see any progress in this thread regarding this case. And what's even funnier, the outcome of the case hasn't even been decided yet but has been given a red tag. Maybe you need to spend a little time learning about the law. Or if you've been here for a long time, does that mean you already understand the law?
So are we always going off topic? Make a rule that other than DT may not comment here. I will definitely leave this thread for good
Edit: You're quickly becoming your own rby situation. Is this a threat and intimidation? that if anyone dared to criticize DT then they would use DT's power to tag? |
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1. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the rby account changed hands. 2. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the original account owner was a scammer. 3. Not everything is about you. 4. Regardless of whether or not you are an alt account, you're annoying AF. Give it a rest. Seriously, this guy is like a nullius minus the intimate knowledge of bitcoin and cryptography. Fine.. I respect all the decisions that exist. So please JG give a closing statement and lock the thread so that the decision is final and nothing can be contested. If rby does not agree with the results, you can create a new thread (such as an appeal or cassation in a legal case) Or this thread can be reopened if there is other supporting evidence that has not been attached |
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Some suspicions about your account just happened - maybe after this thread create:
@PytagoraZ seems to have another trick to draw attention to your account instead of throwing mud at the wall. He's even obscured your username to avoid conflict - but apparently he has other ways of exposing you. Oh no - I also have my suspicions about your activity, this has raised questions in my brain as to why you deleted so many of those posts. I think you are quite observant my friend I'm also surprised he actually opened a thread here. I think he is someone who is hiding and I have no proof because I don't know how to view deleted posts. I respected him because there was no proof so I closed his account name while making the post. But instead he created his own problems by posting in this hellish thread |
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You, appearing regularly in topics about JollyGood, more and more show yourself as a kind of "offended snowflake", which was previously painted red by JollyGood. And it is precisely because of this that you are such an ardent opponent who is fighting to be kicked out of the DT.
I don't need to prove that you are the one who came here to change the world; each person will always act in their interests above all, and you have an interest in denying JollyGood.
We just need to take the time to remember who was dyed by JollyGood from the Indonesian section, and the more you are so loud, the easier it will be to find your former account.
And yes, you probably noticed today after the update how your chances of getting into DT disappear.
Maybe you should take a look at the first page of this thread, I've been following this thread from the beginning, so maybe I didn't suddenly appear in this thread If you have some spare time, maybe you can do that. But I'm afraid you will be disappointed and find nothing It would be seriously insulting the intelligence of members if we were to believe the nonsense that PytagoraZ is not an alt-account. Whatever the motive was behind creating this PytagoraZ account, it has failed but other newbies accounts created days ago are already posting in boards that they should have literally no knowledge about therefore the drama will continue.
This member clearly has some ulterior motives against me, maybe I tagged one or of his previous accounts. Having said that, one of the reasons why these alt-account and farm operators feel some sense of empowerment is because they see occasional posts in almost every thread that appears questioning the tags I left. Some mentally imbalanced trolls just cannot stop themselves from posting asking members to distrust me and somehow that makes them feel important
hi JG I'm glad to see you back. Thanks also for your satirical phrasing, sounds pretty good. The next question is, is it logical if I have an account that has been red tagged from you, suddenly appears and opposes you? Maybe I'd be better off hiding if I had a past like that. Moreover, my merit is already half way to get to rank FM. I don't know why people think like that Or maybe you have a plan to accuse me of being connected to that newbie account? I honestly have nothing against you, I'm just asking about preliminary evidence and initial analysis for this judgment thread you created. But you don't respond and assume too far and have nothing to do with this judgment thread. I have no right to control people's opinions But letting go, I just want you to end this judgment thread. what results were obtained and what decisions were obtained or will wait for concrete evidence about the rby case, because I haven't seen concrete evidence, it's still just an assumption
I'm also surprised that you red tagged rby with a reference to your old thread instead of this one. Even though you didn't tag him yourself before, I'm surprised that at first you didn't have strong beliefs so you didn't tag him at all |
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ok thanks for all the attention. I think I've caught the important point. I will lock this thread
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Quite interesting. Do you guys have any plans to create your own thread for argumentative debate? I will prepare popcorn and watch it. Maybe I'll bet a little I agree with you, @JollyGood. It's better for a self-discussion thread (for any accused user who wishes to clear up the accusation he or she has received) than piping in their own situation in a thread that's not about them (perhaps the thread is specified as for just Rby and Rubycoin, like the OP said, and I reckon you too).
JG is not the type of person to be invited to discuss. Even I doubt he has the capacity to discuss. Maybe he doesn't have a book to read. So what he recommends is nonsense @DireWolfM14, replying your response of the following Are you going to bump every old thread that's ever mentioned rby just so you can spam links to the THREE threads you've created about him?
God you're a pathetic attention-whore drama-queen. Maybe you ought to get a dog, they like to give their humans tons of attention. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456026.msg62508632#msg62508632I already explained it in details LOL The best part of your career was hunting down 1xBit guys and since then I don't see you were able to make a positive impact to the forum. You ran out of ideas since the ICO started to die. From last a year or two, you don't find any good topic to speak, any decent conversation to continue. It's easily noticeable. You go to a very old thread and bump it with answering some very old comments, you make a comment asking others to bring you information so that next time you can make another comment to increase your post count for the signature campaign you are promoting. I have no problem with all these.
Why it's taking too long to ~JollyGood. The only best solution if have a problem with him is like that. He's not the type of person to talk to ~JollyGood is solusion 
Then for the continuation of this thread? he left her. Nothing matters anymore, because its purpose is only to provide red tags. There are no more clarifications, assumptions are just floating in the clouds, there is no decision whatsoever. |
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Tergantung perspektif masing-masing, saya sendiri jarang mengunjungi board tersebut.
Perihal pemberian tag ke user tertentu memang tidak di moderasi, jadi siapapun bisa saja meninggalkan tag entah itu netral, positive atau negative ke akun user lain.
Namun, setidaknya theymos sudah memberikan semacam rambu-rambu dalam kebijakan penggunaannya ketika beberapa tahun yang lalu ada perubahan pada sistem DefaultTrust.
Tapi sepertinya ada yang ugal-ugalan dalam memberikan tag. Oya agan juga DT1, itu ada pengarahan dulu ga si dari pada admin forum ini? Ane rasa ada DT yang sangat bijak, ada yang kalem, ada yang memang memiliki pemikiran yang seimbang dan tidak sebatas berasumi, tapi ada yang ugal-ugalan juga. Theymos itu administrator kan ya? oya ane juga penasaran gan, kalo misalnya forum ini dibuat sama satoshi, maka theymos harusnya kenal dong sama satoshi? atau bisa jadi theymos adalah sathosi sendiri... |
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Statistics June 2023____________________After two months of operations, I want to once again take advantage of all the support that the community has given to this project. The numbers prove it, thank you very much. Here are the numbers for the month of June and totals: | |  |
Number of uploads in June: 10.041
Total number of images uploaded: 28.477 |  |
Total disk space occupied:
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Number of visits to the talkimg.com website in June: 3.177
Bandwidth in June: 404GB
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Hi @joker_josue If I look at the visitor statistics, which are only 3,177, I think that's quite a bit. Yes .. maybe because visitors only come when uploading images, so the number of visits is small But are you sure that the number of visitors talkimg will be able to attract sponsors? I've never had a web for image hosting so I don't know the sponsor prospects for this web model. But managing the web like talkimg will cost a lot. I'll give a little suggestion, maybe if the uploaded image has a small watermark in the corner of the image it can attract sponsors, because I'm sure the uploaded image on talkimg will be seen a lot in this forum. But if you do, maybe bitcointalk members don't really like it. I'm just giving a suggestion
Sorry if my advice isn't great |
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Excuse me, I have a question that has been bothering me since last night. I don't know where this thought came from What happens if I distrust the default trust?  Can I add the same person to the untrusted list? does it have any effect? 
Pictures are just examples. Not referring to anyone. If you object, please contact disclaimer
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Gan, thread reputasi emang horor ya? Kalo saya liat statistik yang baca banyak tapi yang komentar dikit, hanya orang-orang itu melulu. Main kesana bentaran pulang-pulang bawa tag neutral  |
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Because I'm a honest person, I've answered his reply 3 hours later: June 06, 2023, 09:10:12 PM
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Because I'm a honest person, I've replied to him on June 09, 2023, 09:00:31 PM answering his question.
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Timelord2067 is an untrustworthy and a disgusting scumbag, a malicious liar and he's deliberately spreading wrong accusations.
I just found out that by replying to the PM then it is an honest person... Timelord2067 is an untrustworthy and a disgusting scumbag, a malicious liar and he's deliberately spreading wrong accusations.
These are like pearls of wisdom that I rarely read anywhere I can't vote in your poll because neither option is applicable, in my opinion. I think he's honest, but not necessarily objective enough to be on DT, and last I checked he is not. And clearly I believe the second option is objectively wrong.
I do agree that he sees "ghosts" sometimes, or more descriptively, tenuous connections with little evidence to back them up. I believe his heart is the right place and he does care about this forum, however.
For some reason, I often agree with what you say |
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Yes.. since last night I thought about closing this thread. But if i close it does that mean i lost and jolly won?
Then just close it for fuck's sake. It won't mean either of those things, because within about two hours no one will even remember this argument and if you keep relatively quiet, in about a month people will forget where why your username sounds familiar should they come across it for whatever reason. Seriously, you're ascribing to yourself far too much importance than is justified. All right, all right... for some reason, I'll listen to what you have to say. regards |
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