If anyone is serious about taking legal action and would like to get a hold of Nefario please pm me with details and if I am convinced then I will give you his phone number for easy access and maybe you can solve it that way instead of having to take legal action... //DeaDTerra
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400 is only about 5% of the total funds. 5% is surely not enough.
What are the chances of getting money back from GLBSE? If liquidation is successful how many bitcoin totals do we have?
400 includes the liquid Bitcoins we got back from GLBSE, the rest are in loan/debt or as a majority in GLBSE assets of different kinds. I think that it's possible to liquidate these assets without GLBSE as long as the issuers still honor their contracts. //DeaDTerra Any word on this? It would be nice to get some coins back. It was about 50/50 on if the investors wanted to keep the bitcoin in the bots until we get a bigger amount of liquid BTC or if you wanted a payout. It's still up for discussion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) //DeaDTerra
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Prices has been updated ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Order now and get your code by tomorrow ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) //DeaDTerra
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Hello friedcat... DeaDTerra claimed that he has the phonenumber of james (nefario) and was able to phone with him to sort out the things. I already asked DeaDTerra if he could pm me or you directly this phonenumber so you could call him and check back with him directly but DT didnt react.
So maybe you have more luck if you send him a pm and asking for the phonenumber. Because you are a bigger person in this game and maybe he is willing to give it to you. I mean having this number would be worth something i think.
I have given Friedcat the number but I am not sure if he has called James yet ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sorry about not answering I think it got lost in the masses ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) //DeaDTerra Cool, thank you! Im confident that friedcat will reach james as he is one of the bigger parttaker in glbse. For btc and shareholders. No problems, as a major shareholder I want this situation solved as quickly as possible, just like everyone else ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) //DeaDTerra
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Will SD passthru shares be paying out dividends as normal? Should I just expect not to get dividends this month? Pretty disappointed with GLBSE overall, hoping to successfully recover my shares in SD so it's not a total loss . havent gotten a single btc outta glbse ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) It's impossible to tell who owns what shares, so unfortunately the dividend is delayed until I can get the information from GLBSE. //DeaDTerra
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400 is only about 5% of the total funds. 5% is surely not enough.
What are the chances of getting money back from GLBSE? If liquidation is successful how many bitcoin totals do we have?
400 includes the liquid Bitcoins we got back from GLBSE, the rest are in loan/debt or as a majority in GLBSE assets of different kinds. I think that it's possible to liquidate these assets without GLBSE as long as the issuers still honor their contracts. //DeaDTerra So how many bitcoins total with expected liquidation? Hard to say, as it depends on how the market looks after the GLBSE information has been released. //DeaDTerra
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400 is only about 5% of the total funds. 5% is surely not enough.
What are the chances of getting money back from GLBSE? If liquidation is successful how many bitcoin totals do we have?
400 includes the liquid Bitcoins we got back from GLBSE, the rest are in loan/debt or as a majority in GLBSE assets of different kinds. I think that it's possible to liquidate these assets without GLBSE as long as the issuers still honor their contracts. //DeaDTerra
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Hello friedcat... DeaDTerra claimed that he has the phonenumber of james (nefario) and was able to phone with him to sort out the things. I already asked DeaDTerra if he could pm me or you directly this phonenumber so you could call him and check back with him directly but DT didnt react.
So maybe you have more luck if you send him a pm and asking for the phonenumber. Because you are a bigger person in this game and maybe he is willing to give it to you. I mean having this number would be worth something i think.
I have given Friedcat the number but I am not sure if he has called James yet ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sorry about not answering I think it got lost in the masses ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) //DeaDTerra
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Any updates?
I have submitted the necessary info to GLBSE and I am waiting for the share holder information ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) //DeaDTerra
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any updates on how the bot is doing?
They are trading okay no massive amounts of profit. The arb bot has hit the MTGox withdraw roof hence the profit is slowing down as we can't move the capital. I am considering doing a payout of the 400 BTC we have for now, What's you guys opinions on that? //DeaDTerra I think it's better to use those for the arb bot when you can trade more, as you have about 7000 BTC to payout if I'm right? That was the total portfolio worth at the time of shutdown of GLBSE, but is by no means guaranteed. I think 7000 is a way over shot of what the current portfolio value is due to the GLBSE shutdown. //DeaDTerra I think it would be good to have some more information about how the fund looks right now to make it possible to have an opinion about this.
From the "GBF Investor list"- you have deposits of 7214.143782198 from 72 investors. Is this correct?
The "GBF assets" list is clearly nonsense now as a result of the GLBSE debacle. But it still states:
GLBSE stock held: 4992.3865
Loans: 1210.034
Liquid savings USD: 150.78
Liquid savings BTC: 217.433
Total in BTC: 6876.77682526231
The final GBF Investment Fund Log book entry from 28/09/2012 gave the Total fund worth in BTC as 6876.776.
Obviously the GLBSE situation is still really unclear for everyone, but can you update how much GLBSE assets there were at the time of the freeze, and give your opinion about whether any of this might be recoverable.
Could you please give some kind of indication about how much is currently invested in the margin bots and arbitrage bot, and what kind of returns these are giving?
I have yet to update this because I have no information to go for, the update was from the day before the shut down if I remember correctly but trades could have gone through during the next day. Hence it's hard for me to puzzle together out complete portfolio. Same with the prices as there's no official open market it will be hard to put a price on the shares we hold, hence I have decided not to update the spreadsheet until I have more information. My opinion is that about 50% should be recoverable if the Issuers honor their contracts and the shares we hold as well as if GLBSE honors their duty to share the asset informations with the issuers. This is of course only a highly speculative number as it's impossible to tell what the free market price will be. About 400 Bitcoins is currently spread out between the arb and the margin bots, they are not making that much money a couple of cents a day. It really depends on what the trading conditions are that day. As said for the arb bot, it's still in construction and right now we have reached a withdraw cap on MTGox which is being fixed ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Though I doubt that within any reasonable time the arb bot/margin bots will be able to make up for the losses taken. //DeaDTerra
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As I meet him at the Bitcoin conference 2012 and I have been a active user and supporter of GLBSE for over a year ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I am sure he would but it only creates more drama so instead he only updates when there's a official statement to be made. //DeaDTerra The problem is that "unofficial" statements through third parties look like weasel behaviour. We have no way to judge their veracity and it gives Nefario plausible deniability. He needs to make an official statement regarding when he intends to resume the repayment process. If 75% of the overpayments have been returned there seems to be no good reason why the repayment process can't be resumed right now - from what we've been told, GLBSE should have enough reserves of its own to cover any remaining shortfall. For someone who's suddenly so worried about legal consequences, Nefario is acting very stupidly if he believes that he can simply refuse to make further repayments or not put issuers and users in contact with each other until the entirely internal problem of some people not having returned their overpayments is solved. This I agree with, he should be more straight forward and more open to everyone. //DeaDTerra
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The 55.72 BTC was mine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) //DeaDTerra
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any updates on how the bot is doing?
They are trading okay no massive amounts of profit. The arb bot has hit the MTGox withdraw roof hence the profit is slowing down as we can't move the capital. I am considering doing a payout of the 400 BTC we have for now, What's you guys opinions on that? //DeaDTerra
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It's obvious that this bitocin fund will close. Pretty much everything on this section are scams.
Well this one wasn't ^^ Though unfortunately it's quite hard to run a fund when everyone else are running scams xD We are though shutting down, but that was a decision made before all of this GLBSE drama. //DeaDTerra
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Personally I don't think James is a crook
So holding hostage the property of hundreds of innocent bystanders -not to mention all the rest he has done- is fine for you? Then you see no problem even in bank robberies I guess. I have not yet confirmed that this is the reason why he has not released the information to the issuers and I find it unlikely. As it's probably not the issuers that have the extra BTC but the asset holders. In which case a personal boycott of each person which did not send back the double payment would be more efficient. I will call James and have a chat with him I am sure that he's not holding anyone hostage over this and that it can be explained. //DeaDTerra How is it that you have this privileged phone access to Nefario? Why hasn't Nefario been updating to this forum all along with his intentions and actions (and problems)? I would appreciate information to come directly from Nefario, not processed through the filter of your reported phone conversations. Nefario's lack of communication has been the problem all along. As I meet him at the Bitcoin conference 2012 and I have been a active user and supporter of GLBSE for over a year ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I am sure he would but it only creates more drama so instead he only updates when there's a official statement to be made. //DeaDTerra
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Personally I don't think James is a crook
So holding hostage the property of hundreds of innocent bystanders -not to mention all the rest he has done- is fine for you? Then you see no problem even in bank robberies I guess. I have not yet confirmed that this is the reason why he has not released the information to the issuers and I find it unlikely. As it's probably not the issuers that have the extra BTC but the asset holders. In which case a personal boycott of each person which did not send back the double payment would be more efficient. I will call James and have a chat with him I am sure that he's not holding anyone hostage over this and that it can be explained. //DeaDTerra
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im really starting to think that the double payment "mistake" was not a mistake at all...
It could be a elaborate scheme, but I don't think he has it in him to do that. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now on. Just got off the phone with James, he said he's not going to be producing trading history for anyone. As for releasing shareholder data, he said that he's asking for the extra coins his script sent out to be returned, and it looks like he won't be releasing shareholder data to issuers until that happens. He said about 3/4 of the extra coins have been returned.
I take back what I said, he is a crook. It is unreasonable to expect to receive all the coins he mistakenly sent to other people. Also there is no proof those bitcoin address were real and not created by Nefario to embezzle funds and make it look like people won't return the coins back. I believe if he was actually going to return shareholder data to issuers he would have done that first. He is likely not doing so as it would open him up to liability and his silly fear of the government. I can confirm that he sent me double up of the payment I was suppose to get and I sent it all back. Personally I don't think James is a crook, I think he's in a stressful situation with a lot of pressure which resulted in him fucking up and sending double payments. //DeaDTerra
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dammit I am in Scotland on Sunday ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I would have loved to come otherwise. Best of luck though! //DeaDTerra
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I wrote a "bounty calculator" to help users decide what bounty to set on a new piece of work. The idea is that the value of your new work should be just higher than the current highest valued work, but not higher than it needs to be, in order to put it at the front of the line. I explained it on the page:
Looks promising! A question for ThePiachu, what is the lowest bounty you can set for new work?
0.1BTC, and please keep in mind that the Pool keeps 20% of the bounties, so the final reward will be 80% of the initial reward. According to the bounty calculator almost all off the current work is under priced by a lot, does this mean that it's not actually worth "mining" for keys at the moment? //DeaDTerra
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Added those three cards in. Also any suggestions or tips on how to increase my MKey/s rate?
Probably at the moment we would need some software optimisation for the miner. Block mining has been polished a lot, while vanity mining is still a new thing. Asides from that, the standard - overclocking, getting better hardware etc... I wonder when someone will start vanity mining with FPGA boards... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Okay ^^, I currently have both my cards overclocked at my usual stable OC for mining. I have BFL single ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But it's currently not supported by the software. I am willing to test new software if anyone wants to give it a go at optimizing. //DeaDTerra
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