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861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what's the future of bitoin in china ? on: September 22, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
Bitcoin will survive in China, that is sure. All this happenings are actualy try to regulate the Bitcoin not to destroy it. I think China is still interested in Bitcoin and they are not so sensless to go into some destroying campaign against Bitcoin. All this will be in their favour at the end but on long term it will not harm Bitcoin either.

As people in china choose to be hard headed about this digital currency, I think they will have to be more anonymous this time since their government was being strict to it. It's much better that bitcoin will not be legalized totally in the country, but people will still choose to invest bitcoin and hid to authorities and it could not be controlled because it's decentralized character.
862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Small Coins For Massive Profits? on: September 22, 2017, 10:34:27 PM
SUMO marketcap is still small (under 1 million) and the team is awesome imho. It is an anon coin, which I am generally bullish for due to market sentiment.

You should always watch marketcap and not the price.
Yes, often people expect huge gains because they think a price of a coin seems to be cheap although there is an extremely overbought marketcap situation. For example XVG. This coin is overhyped and so many people still tell everboy it would be cheap...

Yes, people will be gaining huge profits because of those small value coins rising it's value due to it's cheaper than other coins that's knows good to trade. But it takes long time to accelerate it's demand, and other traders also view it us long term trades. The marketcap also help them decide whether wait or sell their coins at earlier time.
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are the Big Gambling sites paying taxes? on: September 22, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
I do not think so, maybe the site holder can hide his status. Gambling sites are not like real casinos that are clearly visible to our eyes. Gambling sites seem more privacy. I do not really know but it looks like gambling sites do not pay taxes. They benefit for themselves. Or maybe gambling sites pay taxes if the country legalize gambling.
It happens. Gambling sites are mostly not registered as gambling sites under their own country law. They hide their status and things are just for fun so government don’t take such notice of it. People came, play online, and have fun and they are gone so profit is with owners and story ends.

Its not like that, every site has to be registered somewhere, depends from country where its registered they need to work under their laws. Regulations and taxes are not the same in every country, some countries forbid gambling of any kind, some have very high taxes for gambling, but there is always some island paradise that offers very low taxes and not so strict laws. Its not just with casinos, you can look for many corporations and companies that are registered in some of this paradise countries.


I agree with this matter mate, this really implemented strict laws on gambling registered licenses as well as highest tax implemented laws. Those who doesn't comply to the law implemented requirements will be subjected to website closure, and worst if they don't pay taxes they will be totally banned and won't be accessed again. So in order for the gambling business to run smoothly without any illegalities, well those owners must abide the laws and regulations because if they don't; they will be considered illegal business.
864  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will it fall? on: September 22, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
I think we're going to fall to $2500 over the next week, I think we'll get a strong bounce back up to $3600 though, then continue to drop back down.

Yeah I seen it and the possibility is there, as I checked lately. We will possibly see that $2500 next week if this current situations will got worse. But the strong bounce back might be similar to the previous times from past months, which brought other investors regrets of not investing their money for less cheaper bitcoin and eventually price rises back few days after sudden fall.
865  Economy / Economics / Re: How to invest in bitcoin? on: September 22, 2017, 04:05:30 PM
the best way to invest bitcoin is saving , the more you save the more you profit if price up
To invest in bitcoin means to buy bitcoin you should plan an economical strategy for investment you must keep your vigilant eye on rise and fall of the prices of bitcoins you will also take risk for some time because great risk great profit is also a basic principle of economics.

Investment will take a long process to and when you are deciding to invest with digital currency you need to have strong dedication. No matter what happens to the currency, fluctuations will occur most of the time and you will not easily panic. Taking risk can be hard to adopt but if you wanted progress, you really have to deal with it.
866  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'm a beginner, I want to start trading. What should i do? on: September 22, 2017, 11:35:05 AM
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As a trader that's good to know first the first the coin that you are investing, and you may join some free airdrops in order to earn coins which can be used for trading practices. It's not actually hazard in term but a risk if you invest while you are new to trading, that's why it's recommended to work for your coins first like earning bounty tokens from different campaigns at altcoins marketplace.
867  Economy / Speculation / Re: WILL BITCOIN FALL DOWN IN VALUE? on: September 22, 2017, 09:48:56 AM
Nobody can predict the future, if they could they wouldn't share it with everybody. The China news is already out there and bitcoin has tumbled, the impact of the news is already factored into it's current price. If China got more strict about enforcement, it may go down further, but plenty of Chinese people will continue to use it as an investment. It's decentralized, so is hard for any government to stop.

I agree that nobody can predict the future here in digital currency bitcoin, and it's beyond our control that people were really affected and feared about what had happened to china. Good thing about with china people, they don't lose their hope and remained staying strong on their eagerness to grow on their investments thinking that it's decentralized currency.
868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: September 22, 2017, 09:01:59 AM
I never really believe in superstition so I don't think that it would have an effect in gambling,if you're going to lose you will lose it's just about the luck and your skill.

Same with me here, there's no significant effect on our gambling luck of we adopt those non sense gambling superstitions associated to our gambling activities. Every people should view into the reality that the whole ideas about gambling is based on a race like in a race track, because you needed to beat the finish line. So that finish line is you chances of winning and it's a matter of perseverance and random situations.
869  Economy / Economics / Re: South Africa's Super market started accepting bitcoin on: September 22, 2017, 05:42:43 AM
How they are accepting the Bitcoin payments? I don't think that they will be OK with direct Bitcoin payments, as it takes 30-40 minutes to get the necessary 3 conformations. So the only option is to use a third party processor such as Bitpay or Coinbase.

I guess that using those third party might be expensive much for that,  because of the fee charges when payments will be processed. It's not a bad idea of waiting for that less than an hour, maybe we have the options to wait further or must make and advance payment transactions. Those people should be able to adopt the current system that really involved time as well.
870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Prices Reach $5,000 Again Without China? on: September 21, 2017, 11:02:47 PM
Can Bitcoin Prices Reach $5,000 Again Without China?  Roll Eyes Huh
I think price can go above $5000 without China. if China bans bitcoin itself(https://news.bitcoin.com/china-block-all-bitcoin-transactions/) we might see huge fluctuations in price, once everything settles down we'll move forward without China.
in fact bitcoin is a decentralize currency and the users of bitcoin are available everywhere in the world, and the users of bitcoin are even increasing from time to time which is making bitcoin more stronger, so we can expect that the China will not effect bitcoin any more. i am sure that the investors from the other counties will give good support to bitcoin and they will never let bitcoin down.

Good thing about decentralized bitcoin, is it's ability to gain it's good price as well. That's why it's famous around the world now and more people were investing for a future plans of aiming at higher price rate and will sell for bigger profit gains. More investors aside from china is not worried about it, because they relied the whole world's populations and not from one country.
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Good Online Dice, When You Can Win Up To 0.1 BTC In 30 Minutes on: September 21, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
All of them are good but i recommend pd since that's the site where I play. To be honest man, it's not up to the site or how many you've deposited but it's up to your luck. When I was still lucky way back 2015 with .035btc depo I can turn it into .1btc in more or less than 2hrs in pd, but sometimes achieved in an hour.

I agree that it's based on the luck that we have during the scenario of the game we played. For past year experiences from gambling at dice games, well at first it's very promising but in a long rounds of play the host of the game will be getting back your bets, and you'll eventually started to lose. You can't achieve long lasting good wins, but you will have to lose in order for the online dice to gain their profit also.
872  Economy / Economics / Re: If you have a lot of bitcoin, should you spend it or save it? on: September 21, 2017, 02:20:48 PM
You can't continuously accumulate their savings. To ensure your living needs you will still have to sell some of their bitcoins. I think Part of bitcoins should be used as a reserve Fund? part income and part purchases. Then you will be fine.

Selling your bitcoins isn't that bad at all, because it's a sustainable sources of emergency funds. It's applicable when you're really out of money so you can sell that btc amounts that you have stored in your wallet. Better to learn how to spend it wisely, because if it came a time you needed the money for very important reasons you have funds to use for.
873  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September? on: September 21, 2017, 12:38:50 PM
What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September?
According China Exchanges Shut down and China miners Ban
the news about china who baned bitcoin on September 30th has certainly scared people. there will definitely be a price correction because china has a very large number of bitcoin users. but we can speculate further, for example is when segwit happens. in that condition many predict the price decreases because of the existence of bitcoin split. but the fact is that the price is actually increasing and now we have seen the real evidence. bitcoin is hard to predict, but I believe prices will increase in October.


Most of us here expected for the price to increase in October because that's the actual trend of bitcoin for many recent years past. After fluctuations happened regarding dumping of bitcoin and price eventually decrease, this will recover and pump again. It's not within our control now, people are demanding to invest with bitcoin because it's more profitable than fiat savings investments.
874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: September 21, 2017, 12:14:45 PM
Better not to compare the two, because as I understand both coins. They have different purpose or goal. Bitcoin aims to disrupt Paypal and online banking. Bitcoin is like a digital gold, offering a monetary system free from inflation and intervention of government. While Ethereum has the goal of using a blockchain to replace internet third parties - those that store data. In short, Ehtereum wants to be the World computer. Though Ethereum allows faster transactions than Bitcoin. But we cannot say that Ethereum is better in all aspect. Bitcoin will never be in the first place in coinmarketcap if its not better in all cryptos.

Very well defined and a certain answer is elaborated. Bitcoin's generation nowadays is unstoppable now, that's why in coinmarketcap it gained it's leading marks as we can see in the updates of all cryptos. For me the future still depends with bitcoin, and I don't know why other people claimed that an ethereum altcoin will beat the odds of bitcoin. We shouldn't be easily be corrupted with negative rumors and gain confidence with bitcoin to rise more higher than before.
875  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: September 19, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
I think that some of these people need to download something like lemonade Tycoon the old days. They simply teaches you the fact that you start off with something small and completely and totally devote Revenue that comes from that small thing in the building, and then with that higher Revenue you devote that into building something more. Continue this till you have what you want. A lot of these clicker games on the smartphone demonstrate that.
It is the reality of life. One cannot kame money easily with having money in his pocket or account. But those people who are already stable and are rich, they can make money by investing their holdings in some business. And I think that in this day the most profitable coin business is bitcoin. The reward, the price and the market cap has increased by many times form the time of start. I will recommend bitcoin for money makers.

I agree mate,  money isn't to earn in every situations,  but as long as you're hardworking and having descipline you will be successful. But the most certain in this world is to look for a job and if you earn good amount, you will have to save for the future. That's why we needed to invest for a business, so trading altcoins can be the best oftions to do for your money and it served as a running business in the future.
876  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you think about the future of bitcoin? on: September 19, 2017, 11:00:08 PM
China just want's to keep monetary stability and is pushing on the brake... (for now)
US is basically doing the same.

All those new ICO and ICO scams are financially disrupting countries and peoples lives. The scams need to stop.
People are hitting on Bitcoin like it's a casino ... all or nothing.... It's not healthy investing!

For now countries are just protecting their economy which is basically a good thing.

Give it time and crypto will get it's place in the economy ....



Well,  the future of bitcoin might be that struggling compared from past years and based on those mentioned in this thread that crypto will get the place for the economy. I know there will be positive progress in the future of bitcoin and although it now that stable, but it doesn't mean were not thinking great chances of growing it's valuable assets.
877  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Could China Ban Miners. on: September 16, 2017, 12:00:24 AM
With the amount of fake trading and money laundering Chinese exchanges were doing I t was only a matter of time until this happened.
I'm also confident trading won't be banned in China, although the exchange owners are panicking and closing down. Once the government makes all the rules and forces them to apply for a license everything will return to normal and prices back to $5000 levels.

I am not certain about it that trading wouldn't be banned in china, because they even banned those bitcoin to fiat exchanges how much more with the trading sites. That's the reasons why those exchange sites closing down due to fear of being banned or sanctioned by the law of the government in china. This chaos must really be negotiated well by the government and we will have to see the outcome for the next month's effect of bitcoin price to rise again.
878  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Once we apply for a signature campaign, how we will get confirmation? on: September 15, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
Once we apply for a Signature campaign, how does we will get the confirmation from them? and how much time it will take to get the confirmation?
No one treats to specially.You need to check for updated spreedsheet.If you are accepted,your name must be reflected there.
Also,don't worry too much about signature campaign at the moment.You will be rejected from most of the campaigns for terrible posting quality.Learn basics of the forum in the meantime.

Mostly the applicants of the signature campaigns here was rejected due to late applications, and many is posting an advance application prior the start of the campaigns usually at bitcoin service section. One reason that other managers won't be accepting is due to inactivity and the low posting quality of the applicant, as said here it's defined as terrible poster and defined as shit poster.
879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: September 15, 2017, 04:09:24 PM
I try to set up limit for myself but by addiction I some time go beyond the limit. And many of the time I can't control my mind while I am crossing the limit. So I now deposit and play with small amount.
it is mean nothing when it comes to gambling , setting up the limit maybe work for a couple times only , but as time goes by you will feel like too excited to gamble , and that is the reason why you always crossed the limit no matter how hard you are trying.

however by making small amount to deposit it is a form of setting the limit i think.
Playing with small amounts is also a way to set limits, it helps us to not lose too much money, but sooner or later I think he also once again pass this limit because greed and addiction will become stronger and more serious as we continue to gamble for a long time. Setting limits is also just a painkiller help us temporarily forget the pain but when it loses its effect, the pain will return, even more pain than before, the pain here is addiction and greed in gambling, it will make us lose control and take everything we have, then our family and people around us

You needed to do that certain ways in order to control everybody's addictions on gambling. This could prevent you to gamble with more money to be wasted for, but the good is you have better opportunity of gaining good profit. If those money you have will be used for you family if you're a family oriented person.
880  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: September 15, 2017, 03:11:14 PM
It's all up to you man, a house is a very good investment because it doesnt depreciate instead it just goes up in value usually, land is very important now, the more land you have the richer you technically are so you could take it to the moon and be the man that took btc to another level.

But I guess that is not smart. If you do that you need a lot of Bitcoins I think. May you should now wait indeed for a good value. I think the price rise will come very soon, we all hope for it. It all depends on you.

If you need a house and the real estate market in your area isn't already pumped to the sky, then why not? You can also choose to buy just started companies if you think they have a very high potential of succeeding.

For that price right now I don't think you can use your fund if bitcoin's price still remains volatile. Waiting is a very common ideas that investors will choose to do now, bitcoin price will have to gain it's better value before we can dump our holding for important expenses like of property buying. Even if other people had negative expectations about it, but it's not the end of everything and bitcoin existence will still prevail.
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