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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: February 15, 2024, 02:36:53 PM
After a break due to the Asian Cup, Saudi Pro League matches will resume. Al Taawon was a team that impressed at the beginning of the season and became one of the strong contenders in the Saudi Pro League but slowly they began to show a decline and it was quite detrimental that made them already out of the title race, today they will face Abha one of the weakest teams this season who is struggling to get out of the relegation zone.
The away team is favored in this match, and seeing how Al Taawon has suffered two consecutive defeats from the last five matches this is a great opportunity for them to be able to return to victory, although the three-point result will not improve their ranking in the standings, but the victory will not be easily obtained by the visitors because Abha although a weak team has the motivation to be able to win three points which will be enough to help them to slowly leave the bottom three.
since the beginning of the season Abha was only able to pocket 4 wins and 2 draws and the rest lost all.
this a sign that Al Taawon still able to get the advantage of stealing 3 points from Abha because Abha current condition really in the bottom of the standings with a very bad performance even though H2H Abha can hold a draw and also defeated Al Taawon but the condition already in a different this season Al Taawon becomes stronger even as a guest in the match but surely Al Taawon will at least score 1 score or even more.

IMO, betting for Abha score can also benefit because as a host I believe that Abha will at least try to score 1 score and bet Abha over 0.5 score with odds @1.42 very profitable.
862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: February 15, 2024, 12:28:48 PM
Lyon is very likely to escape from the relegation zone because they are currently three points ahead of Lorient who is in 16th position and five points ahead of Metz who is in 17th place. Moreover, it looks like they are starting to play well, and winning against Marseille is the key to their revival even though there is an opportunity to lose again in the next match is still wide open but the teams below them are also very likely to lose so Lyon's position will still be safe to be able to play in Ligue 1 next season.
Facing Nice, they also have a chance to get a point, even if only one, because Nice, even though they are in a much better position than them, their performance is not that impressive because they only focus on defense, if Lyon can break through that and score a goal then they will win again at home.
yep, only the draw that we are able to expect because to defeat Nice not an easy job and even though Nice currently unstable but the team difficult to predict sometimes lose to a weak team sometimes very strong when competing against a strong team so there no hope for beating and better Lyon more focused on producing drawing score.
what I know at this time is that Nice can be defeated by continuing to put pressure on the defense definitely Nice will look easy to defeat, but unfortunately Lyon attacking players are not strong as last season so there is no choice but to compete with the defense formation and try to consistently getting 1 point will be better than losing points at home.

I have predictions if the score scores will be the same as having 1 score but if Nice wins it will end with 1-2 for Nice.
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 15, 2024, 09:58:34 AM
Arda Guler is increasingly left out of Real Madrid's main squad and even though he has recovered from the injury he received at the start of the season, he still doesn't get the playing minutes he deserves under Ancelotti. Now there are rumors that Real Madrid wants to loan him to another club and there are several clubs linked with Arda Guler, from Spurs, Milan to Leverkusen.

As usual, Real Madrid aims for its players to gain experience at other clubs and after that Real Madrid can give them a worthy place in the Real Madrid squad. That's what Real Madrid previously did with Brahim Diaz, who was on loan at Milan and after returning from Milan he became an important player for Real Madrid today. I know that a talented young player like Arda Guler will become increasingly frustrated if he doesn't get playing time and therefore next summer will be the deciding factor in whether he stays or goes on loan if he wants to gain more experience outside of Real Madrid. We know that it is not easy to break into the Real Madrid starting squad and all the players must be patient in getting their turn.

Where do you think Arda Guler should be loaned? In my opinion, Leverkusen is the right place because there they will be able to develop their talents much better under Xabi Alonso.
this a strategy for Ancelotti to let Arda Guler gain a lot of experience with other teams and for me this is not a problem for Arda Guler because she is still very young and still needs a lot of experience to improve the expertise he has and it seems you have said that it is like the previous case that there were some players who would be left to try new experiences with other teams to be a great player.
reason Ancelotti did this because I was sure that Real Madrid relationship with Milan was very close so it was no wonder that Brahim Diaz had been lent to Milan to find his talent.

from what I see today there are only 2 teams that are very suitable for Arda Guler, only Leverkusen and Milan but closer to Milan because previously Brahim Diaz was once a great player after lending to Milan.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why in some religion gambling is forbidden? on: February 15, 2024, 08:04:07 AM
When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?
I am sure some people have given the right answer but I will only give additional opinions that I know.
every religion provides the best guidance to its people and provides guidance to avoid any adverse effects and everything that is forbidden in religion there must be benefits in the prohibition but as religious people we are not always required to obey the rules because humans are always make a mistake.
I mean even though gambling is prohibited in certain religions, there are usually many who are determined to gamble but still have to understand the risk and not to get the bad impact.

as I know in the religion that I see says it prohibited to gamble and if I understand it in the prohibition for us to avoid negative impacts such as addiction, stealing or robbing etc.
now, in this case it clear that every religion has their respective rules and most importantly the prohibition actually to regulate us so as not to fall into misery.
865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Repeating mistakes on casino games in gambling site on: February 15, 2024, 07:48:16 AM
from my own experience in the casino game, I will prioritize stop for a moment after suffering a defeat and back again after a few days to try luck again but when I am lucky I try to continue the bet that I do with the assumption to continue to get luck but the fact is true what is said by others here that the longer it survives in the game will be losing and house edge always wins.
stop gambling for a moment can make a gambler make the same mistake that makes no sense for me because in history I bet on a casino betting gambling is always the best way to avoid emotions and keep the budget to gamble remain intact and can be used to bet again later days and I understand what you mean but I don't agree if I have to gamble at any time or every day.
866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them on: February 15, 2024, 07:26:42 AM
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What do you think?
not sure if my answer has ever answered first but in my opinion the two options are suitable to be used to help families who are addicted only we have to see how the condition of the addict.
If indeed a gambling addict is able to have changes with the first option by providing gentle support and using words that can penetrate their minds and encourage their minds to continue to avoid gambling slowly and if it works well it would be better for the first option to be maintained and Increased by several aspects.

but if a gambling addict has been given assistance with the first option but in a few days it has given an increase in avoiding gambling and in a few months it seems not gambling but apparently silently still made a bet, I think the second option must be done in the sense of not being too rough using physical but enough with harsh words to push his mind even deeper so that it is really depressed and eliminating the desire to gamble.

this is all just about the two options but actually there are many more ways to help families who have the habit of gambling but from the 2 options have represented everything and can be applied to different conditions.
867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Difference between afford to lose and can't afford to lose. on: February 15, 2024, 07:09:17 AM
When you are depending on someone for assistance because you want to gamble it means that you are risking what you can not afford to lose. Why because you don't have the money to gamble but someone have to give it to you before you can stake.
But when you have jobs that pays you money so well and you are gambling it means you are risking what you can afford to lose. Why because ones you lose your job will give you another money.

However, many people would say even if you have jobs but you are staking higher it also means you are gambling with what you can not afford to lose. Moreover it's true and I have to dauth but I have a feeling that ones someone that have a good paying job is staking more than what he can afford to lose, there is no different between addiction there.
after understanding a few moments what do you mean all of this about gamblers who have a job is one of the gamblers who is able to lose? if true maybe this case is like another thread that is slightly related to your case Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler.

to distinguish a gambler who is able to lose or gamblers who are unable to lose, we cannot compare with whether gamblers have jobs or not but we can distinguish it by seeing whether the gambler can always gamble using a small budget in accordance with what he has today and Will he gamble regularly to pursue his defeat.
It is true that a gambler who does not have a job and relies on loan money from other people seems bad but we cannot judge that person to say he is a gambler who is unable to lose because we don't know even though he doesn't work but has a large asset he saves behind the scenes, only he did not want to sell his assets before the target was determined.

so we cannot judge whether gamblers are able to lose only from whether they have a job but we should see more behavior in how they gamble.
868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do coaches get sacked over poor performance of players? on: February 15, 2024, 03:22:56 AM
regarding the Mourinho case, I hope you don't read from one source but look for the most confirmed source.
when a club has a problem, especially if the problem is with a star player or a popular coach, many media outlets will exaggerate the problem by changing the true story.
and in my opinion Mourinho case of leaving Roma is because he is no longer able to handle a team that cannot get the players that Mourinho wants so improving the team's performance will be very difficult. on one hand, Roma financial condition is in a slightly bad condition so Mourinho is not there allow to bring in players at high prices.
If the players really didn't like Mourinho, he should have been fired from that time, but in fact Roma's performance last season was still fine without any problems.

the dismissal of a coach cannot be predicted whether it is because the players don't like the coach or the management doesn't like the way the coach works, but what is certain is that as long as a team doesn't make any progress, management will definitely fire the coach to save time to immediately find a new coach who is capable. to improve the team's performance.
869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: February 15, 2024, 02:22:23 AM
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What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.
there no best advice unless you tell all that to your friend family and tell them about their addiction and then ask them to go to rehab to get special treatment.

I don't really understand the situation but I'm sure your friend has a family and gambling addict can recover if there strong encouragement from the family because without family it will be very difficult to cure a gambling addict because no one gives encouragement.
but if you want to give advice to your friends, you can tell them about how gambling actually works and show how dangerous the bad effects are if you can't stop gambling.
but I'm not sure whether your friend will listen to your advice but I think the advice you give will be ignored.

this an example of the bad impact that gamblers have when they have a wrong understanding and think that gambling can return the money they have lost and can recover the losses they have lost, that a very wrong understanding and for me very ridiculous.
with examples like this, anyone should be careful to control themselves to continue trying to be responsible gambler.
870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 14, 2024, 07:40:21 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, I once found news about Tuchel's future at the Allianz Arena after Bayern Munich lost against Bayern Leverkusen in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich (CEO) said that Tuchel will stay at Bayern Munich for next season.
Bayern Munich's match against Lazio, in terms of strength, Bayern Munich will not experience big difficulties. From experience, Bayern is also better than Lazio. If Bayern cannot win in the 1st leg, the chance to qualify is in the 2nd leg.
If Bayern Munich fires Tuchel at the end of next season because he failed to win the title, then I believe Bayern Munich must find a coach who actually has a tendency to win titles rather than one who likes challenges like Tuchel. I think Tuchel is very worthy of being retained as coach regardless of the final result this season, but of course people always want titles and trophies.

If Bayern Munich can win the title this season in the Bundesliga, then who is the king other than those who keep winning it? This is not very good for a competition that sends 4 representatives to the Champions League, looking the same as Ligue 1. Regarding today's match, Bayern Munich and PSG are both favorites to win. Lazio and Real Sociedad know that, but they have a home advantage that cannot be completely underestimated.
Bayer Leverkusen remains far ahead of Bayern Munich on the Bundesliga rankings. If Bayern falters domestically, winning the Champions League could be the only way for Tuchel to keep his job. Coach Thomas Tuchel must change the style of play by deploying the ball quickly and limiting excess passes in the air. Harry Kane's form is the main factor leading to Bayern's success. The prospect of a blank season is opening up for Bayern Munich. Therefore, the pressure on Kane and Tuchel also becomes greater. I believe that with class and extensive experience in the European arena, this is also an opportunity for coach Thomas Tuchel's team to stabilize their mentality and regain confidence. A victory against Lazio will open the door for that.
Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga match only controls the ball too quickly in putting pressure on the opposite to the opponent is very important to make the opponent's mentality decrease but the problem not in the Bundesliga, so I will not be sure if Tuchel will do the same strategy at UCL.
against Lazio is not a tough task even though this match Bayern Munich will compete as a guest but see I guess there will be 2 scores that will be printed by Munich or even more.
maybe in the Bundesliga it looks bad lately but I still believe the victory will belong to Bayrn Munich
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 14, 2024, 06:34:16 PM
Frankie De Jong gets about 20 million a year, I think that is not the highest after Mbappe, there are plenty like Kane, but it is definitely high. Barcelona can't afford to pay him 20 a year, they can sell him or just release him after his contract is over. I do not get why people are mad about it, Barcelona was managed poorly and they lost all their money that part is true and you can be mad about that part.

However, afterwards as in if you look at it right now then we can see that they are doing the right thing. How can a company who sold a lot of stuff just to keep the lights on, can afford a 20 million a year player. They should go with cheaper players, that would make it a lot better for all of them without a doubt.
At the same time it would be a risk for them, because they also need quality players to maintain their performance, and as we know quality players have a high price. Sure, some of the cheaper players will help, but how much will they contribute? There are also relatively cheap players who show a very good game, but they are rare to find.
One of the things they can do is to use young players, yes of course with the risks involved. But if they are lucky enough, then they will find a very good young talent that can help them get better.
All methods have their own risks, they just need to choose which risk they will take.
getting players at low prices just like gambling because if lucky will definitely get cheap players but can help improve team performance to be stronger but correct what is said by @jody.drummer if cheap players can make a strong contribution is very impossible to get it except to have young age and able to increase the talent of the young player to become a very talented player to help the team win the title.
option to get cheap players for me will only spend money but will only get a slight increase in Barcelona but I will agree more if I sell the main players who don't look good and look for other players who are stronger in performance.

so that when getting a quality player Barcelona will never worry because the player will certainly try to help the team become stronger than throwing money in vain with just the same appearance.
872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 14, 2024, 05:16:08 PM
Apart from all that, the fact that both Liverpool and Arsenal can still be considered as other candidates is quite reasonable and getting odds that much for the current time is still reasonable in my opinion. I think it is still quite difficult to determine who wins and because the difference is not much different and every week the results are still different, this will be a very complicated season for the three leading teams.
It's actually difficult to guess who will win the EPL title this season, although many people believe that Manchester City will win the title this season, Liverpool and Arsenal are still very important because they could win the title this season if they maintain their consistency until the end of the season. , they could win it, sometimes the most difficult thing is when at the end of the season most of the clubs at the top of the standings are often very inconsistent.

What can be taken as an example is last season where Arsenal were believed to be going to win the title last season but they ended badly so they had to give up Manchester City to win the title last season, that is what Arteta must learn not to make another mistake at the end. season and also includes Klopp to put pressure on his players to maintain their consistency at the end of the season because the title this season is very important for them for their farewell to Klopp who will leave Liverpool after this season, of course the title this season is very much sought after by Liverpool
It is difficult to predict the final results of this season while there are still many matches left and there are still many surprises that occur even though currently Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City look strong but we don't know what will happen because in the EPL since the beginning of the season there are many surprises such as Spurs And Aston Villa who had given a surprise could reach the top of the standings even though it was only temporary but a surprise like this that made us worry whether there were still more surprises this season.

personally, I am actually more confident if Man City will still be able to get another title this season even though there is no guarantee but we don't hurt to predict each other's opinions.
873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: February 14, 2024, 02:52:29 PM
We will experience loss more often than we win, so we must try to prevent greater losses by limiting our gambling. It is painful if we experience loss, but as long as we can accept the loss, we will not feel pain because it is an amount we can accept. Many of us also experience losing a lot of money in gambling but if we have set a limit, it will not be so painful because it is a limit that we can afford. If we aim to win, we may have difficulty because we will experience many losses and may end up spending all the money. That is why we have to use limits when playing gambling so that we can prevent many losses and accept those losses well. We can leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to recover the loss.
gamblers who come to have fun will always be able to limit themselves and know when is the right time to gamble because those who gamble for fun usually have critical thinking or are wiser in managing their financial budget for gambling and respect their budget to have fun later day so they will never regret even if they often lose before they stop gambling but they don't have the thought to chase those losses.

different from gamblers who come to make a profit, usually they only think about how to get a win and always try continuously to get a win, no matter how much they have lost, the most important thing is that they can get a big win like they want, but without realizing that when the longer they bet, the smaller the chance of winning because emotions will get the best of them and when they lose they will really regret it and want to chase their losses to recover the money they have lost.

that's the difference, even though I'm not a hypocrite if gamblers who are having fun also want to win, but it's just winning that they want, not the big profits they want, like gamblers who come for profit.
874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler lost what he couldn't afford to lost and broke his TV after game Lost on: February 14, 2024, 02:23:24 PM
He now makes two different lost counts at the caused of his inability to control his gambling emotions and his over confidence to had staked what he can't afford to loosed.
this is a sad story that I have read for the umpteenth time and there are many more stories that are almost the same, some are even worse when a gambler who gambled with money he couldn't afford to lose ended up committing suicide.
of the many stories, this is one of the things that must be taken from the positive side, namely never doing things that you cannot afford to do, like what your friend did. this is one action that should not be imitated anyone and we all have to understand the risks if we forcing to gamble using hot money which should be used for daily needs but is used for gambling but ends up losing, feeling emotional and venting his emotions on the things around him.
regret is always the end of an action that has been done but there is no point in regretting it.

after an incident like this, your friend should realize that he is unable to control himself not to get emotional and after this he should also regret not gambling anymore because I am sure that if your friend gambles again in the long term he will experience much worse problems.
875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 14, 2024, 02:04:05 PM
If they can take the risk of no more than 1%, they can avoid gambling addiction because by using that amount of funds and by having self-control, they can gamble moderately and will not exceed their limits. They will always remember that greed can cause them to lose a lot of money and be unable to control themselves anymore. That is why they must continue to try to control themselves in gambling so that they do not become addicted to gambling and can also save their money from unnecessary losses. They will not want to continue gambling because they know that it is not good for them, especially if they only have limited capital to gamble. They will always try to prevent the seeds of greed from growing because that will only make them slowly become addicted to gambling. By always ensuring they stay within their limits, they can enjoy gambling as entertainment and never want to cross their limits.
gamblers who have a mediocre income would be better advised to continue learning to control themselves consistently with all the rules that have been planned by themselves, as you said, using 1%-5% will not cause big problems as long as they are committed to their own rules.
and several things that must be paid attention to are not only about self control but also always learning to get used to the mind not to expect to win large amounts from gambling so that when gambling using a small budget, a small gambler can enjoy every bet he makes.
because if gambler doesn't get used to thinking positively, self control will definitely be difficult because all starts from the mind.

and actually there are many more ways to be consistent and make good use of the planned budget, such as betting in the right places and betting small amounts is one way to manage that 1% budget well.
such as choosing to bet on sports betting with small bets and being able to bet every day with small amounts compared to having to bet on casino games which are usually difficult to quit betting when very comfortable with the game.
876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changing initial option and losing the bet on: February 14, 2024, 01:07:01 PM
These acts has cost me from losing bet many times, as a gambler share your thoughts on this and have you been in a similar situation.
until now, I still make this mistake when I have a plan to bet on a game that I have determined, but when accessing gambling, I forget the first option and am tempted to try another game, for example, I want to bet on football, but when I log in to my gambling account, I saw a new game and it made me curious and had to try it.
after I try it depends on whether I'm lucky or not because sometimes even though I prioritize the second game, sometimes luck gives a little win to add to the budget for betting on sports betting but when I'm not lucky maybe I'll just try a few rounds after the game makes me a little bored I will continue betting on sports betting.

and I have read many people who say here that they have indeed experienced the same incident as you did and that it is not a mistake or a determinant of whether we will be lucky or not.
877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will AI Take over the Position of VAR? on: February 14, 2024, 12:13:24 PM
So what is your day on this matter. Will AI takeover VAR?
In this day and age, technological developments are increasingly sophisticated and nothing is impossible, but you still have to maintain VAR.
I mean, currently most coaches are really helped by the existence of VAR to decide what policies will be implemented in violations and for me it is not the AI that is at issue but whether the coach will be fair enough to make decisions.
I really understand the situation, maybe AI can control VAR, but if that happens there will definitely be other parties who will analyze or give certain punishments if VAR is controlled by AI and on the one hand, for me, VAR + AI will not be a serious problem in the future, so in any case VAR will still be maintained even though later AI will master it.
878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Anyone +18 Play Gamble? on: February 14, 2024, 11:40:12 AM
I'm not sure if anyone has answered my answer, but IMO +18 is a person who can have better control than -18.
this means why gambling always says that at least new customers must be 18+ because someone who is mature enough has better emotional control, although this doesn't guarantee it, but at least they can control themselves better.

and regarding whether new gamblers must have experience before gambling, it is not necessary and the most important thing for me is that a gambler must understand how gambling works and have good self control.
experience just a story from the past and all of that does not guarantee that gamblers will be responsible, but if they know how gambling works and can know what risks need to be avoided, they are definitely worthy of gambling.
879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 12, 2024, 10:58:52 AM
Arsenal impressive and scintillating performance today at West Ham was a way to send strong message to the top two clubs at the top of the English Premier League standings that they're actually one of the strongest contenders for the league title and I'm sure their message will be well received by those two clubs.
Arsenal at the start of the season was so impressive that I began to think that they were gonna finally win the league title this season but unfortunately, they started underperforming which made lose their spot as at top of the league table. But with the way they're currently playing, I think they still have a chance to win the league this season but that'll be very hard of you ask me
a very big score and I have to admit that this time Arteta team has really returned to its consistency even though previously it had lost its consistency, but Arteta managed to provide a very appropriate strategy to be able to gain the trust of the fans again.
6 scores is a big score that humiliated West Ham at home without even having any resistance.

but even though Arsenal are back they can be more consistent but I'm worried if they lose their consistency again like at the start of the season Arsenal were very good but in the middle of the season Arsenal experienced a decline in performance and this time it has started to improve again but the worry still makes me doubt because it could just be temporary commitment again.
however, looking at Arsenal current condition, it seems that Arteta as coach has realized that the match schedule is getting thinner, so if he doesn't immediately continue to get definite points in every match, it will really endanger his current position which is still very close to Spurs and Aston Villa.

It seems like the interesting match didn't just happen at Arsenal vs West Ham, but the dramatic match that Man United beat Aston Villa really surprised me because at first I thought it would only end in a draw but surprisingly McTominay managed to seal the win with a header towards West Ham goal.
the slightly ridiculous header made McTominay could have been thwarted by the West Ham goalkeeper because the ball passed in front of him but for some reason Emiliano Martinez seemed shocked and was unable to ward off the ball that was in front of him.
880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 12, 2024, 08:14:16 AM
Currently, Leverkusen's consistency has put them in the top contending spots for the Bundesliga title. Even though it's not so certain yet as there are still games to determine the victor, there's every possibility that there may be change of hands this season.
Munich are doing their best to match up the intensity of contest Leverkusen are putting forward.

 Definitely they can hold onto the pressure for a while and for Leverkusen, they are not resilient in pursuing that major aim. Alonso and his squad aren't giving up and weekly they put up a whole different energy towards that trophy race. The time is sure going to be tough for all their opponents and the games will go almost to the last end before a victor can be confirmed.
It's no surprise that Leverkusen currently looks more consistent and no one thought that Xabi team could reach the top of the standings without being defeated and could even beat the bundesliga giants.
we don't know what will happen but at least being at the top of the standings and beating a big team like Munich is a big achievement for Xabi who is currently experiencing success with Leverkusen to continue to maintain his position at the top of the standings.
Bayern Munich looked bad when facing Leverkusen even though Munich performance was very impressive but they were still unable to break into Leverkusen goal.

we may not be able to speculate to say who will survive until the end of the season but look Leverkusen undefeated and no matter how strong a team is, it will definitely experience defeat at least once in a season and I can only say that at least Leverkusen will experience 3 defeats until the end of the season this and if that happens certainly Munich will take the opportunity to unseat Leverkusen but it looks like Xabi goal is to get the bundesliga title undefeated to gain very valuable experience.
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