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8641  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: September 10, 2016, 10:42:30 AM
How much money do you make from trading ? Your expect and result, Also never forget to tell your principal

Thank you

I don't know whether it has the same topic like this before or not if yes please post here,



Your question isn`t very specific.

What trading?Altcoin or forex?

Anyone here can write  "I make XXXXX$ from trading."But can anyone proove that he is making that amount?

True, there are different kind of  trading  it maybe forex or altcoin trading because it would lead to confusion to members that would read it. Some may answer   on forex trading and some  may altcoin which is  not the same but one things for sure trading either forex or altcoin is not easy and you would need  enough knowledge to be profitable. I didnt experience on forex trading but  on altcoin i do trade sometimes  i just getting  bounty for coins and sell and exchange it  to bitcoin directly and   decide to buy again potential coins.
you just explained it right but since we are in this forum which caters more from bitcoin to alt coin all i can say is that it is hard to calculate the actual loses or earnings because there's always a time frame from each coin when to pump up and when to pump down and i don't want to calculate everything just wanted to make sure that im earning from my investment.

We have the same  thinking because same as yours im not thinking on my losses which is just normal for me when i do trading . I usually  mind on profits when i intend to choose a potential coin. We cant really catch up or  know the time frame that you said on when to pump and dump its price of a certain altcoin.
8642  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: September 10, 2016, 10:40:01 AM
best way of managing money is investing it becasues if your money is not in form of cash and available to you, they you would not spend it without thinking. that way you have your money put in a good investment and making more money from it but also it is safe and out of your reach to waste.

Investment is an option and can't be considered as ways to manage the money "generally".

Managing the money only covered those money in hand on how will you use it to make enough to cover your daily needs.

The term in investment thing should be "managing the money in investment". It has an own aspect and different from the general term of "managing the money".

Yes investment could be considered as ways on how to grow your money.  And actually it could be also part of the plan on how person will manage his money.  Like he would save some of it and then when he have enough he could buy some stocks or buy some mutual funds as an investment.  And to be able to have savings he need to be really aggressive on where his money goes.  Like having a list of his daily expenses.

This is the best way  on how  you manage your money you must list your daily expenses which you could have always a preference.  more investments and diversify it would surely give you  potential profits which you could also make a saving and  pile  up on long time and build or invest another business. Thats how it goes and continue for sure you would no have problem in financial things.

I agree with you we must have a list regarding on our spending so that we would have an idea on what we should do next and we must limit our spendings on non important things with this method we could save even more and  could be used on future  purposes. Diversifying  is also good.
8643  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: How Can I Earn Bitcoins? on: September 10, 2016, 10:35:40 AM
Signature campaigns are risk free & you're earning money for just writing replies here. Also, you're increasing in rank which is increasing the weekly or monthly payout too.
Nope , signature campaign has a risk too . Such as spamming in this forum , banned because spamming , join signature campaign with alt account. As long as , you read the rules and not tried to break the rules , you should be fine.

True and you have a point there is a risk  also on signature campaigns  as you mentioned  but you could possibly avoid those risk if youre sensible enough  about on what you should gonna do when you are already on a campaign.  Signature campaigns is the most common way on earning bitcoin here in this forum.
8644  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 10, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
I would not. I can use  bitcoin as a partime job in  which I can earn extra  money but cannot get  an full time income on bitcoin I think.
for now yes we can't but if we learn more especially when we learn how to do alt trading maybe i can say that we can leave our day job, alt trading will give us a lots of opportunity to earn more than what we have in our regular day job so basically im just preparing myself to learn much deeper coming from alt trading before proceeding and invest huge amount of my investment.

I would  disagree with you,  altcoin trading would really give you decent amounts  when you  have a succesful trade but its not on daily basis and  some coins  may move its price in a matter of weeks  or months thats why its still risky if  you fully depend on it and you decide to quit your job because of altcoin trading.
8645  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: September 10, 2016, 10:24:22 AM
It was no secret if you want  to earn bitcoin from  bitcointalk only by join the signature campaign  and for other way  is only continues checking giveaways by some new  site. it's the two ways that  i know to earn bitcoin in here.
Don't forget to sell your services to make money on bitcointalk, and it's more profitable , also anyone will use your services again if you're services is good and never had a problem with you . Indeed , for sell your services must have skill to sell.

Having skills  would be an advantage  here on this forum especially if you have those technical skills related to programming, graphic design, developer then its a sure skill to be profitable in this forum and not only that you  could earn decent amounts and i think its the best way to earn a good amount here.
8646  Economy / Speculation / Re: Welcome back! $700 on: September 10, 2016, 10:20:35 AM
bitcoin now is trend up go to rise
i hope next month bitcoin price in reach 700dollar every one bitcoin
before halving bitcoin price in reach over 700 dollar
so its now bitcoin price can rise to reach 700 dollar again

I think the end of September likely to reach $700. also see the price of bitcoin increase quite rapidly 2 weeks earlier was in the range of $575 and is now nearly $625. if price able to reach $700 at the end of this month I hope at the end of the year reached $1000
don't hope too much the price just started rise so still have a chance to go down $ 600, we still have many time for this month so would nice if the price rise step by step.
$700 is my hope, not so bad if it could be achieved by the end of this year, but $1000 is a miracle if it could be achieved this year.
ya right, price could still go down, as I look at some predictions still say that prices could fall to $400. not so sure of it, because I believe bitcoin prices will remain at $500 if a decreased trend.

I think it would surpass $700 in the end of the year since we saw the price as of now  its already on $630+ which a little bit more rise it would reach $700 in no time but we should not be confident or expect too much since we dont know what would be the  price on upcoming months and we dont know the things that may happen along the way.
8647  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think that the current dump is going to destroy the image of bitcoin? on: September 10, 2016, 10:14:30 AM
no big dump, the price remains above $500, even after the news about hackers bitfinex, bitcoin prices recover quickly enough, although not completely. so I think this is all going to be fine Smiley

Previous $670 mark price  dump to $540 max  because of the finex incident but still its not  considered as a big dump, its just a $100+  price drop and as we can see now  as of today  that bitcoins price is  already recovering up  and going  to $600+  ongoing. Price dumps are just normal because of some circumstance but still  bitcoin would probably  recovers.
I also believe bitcoin prices will be stable and will probably rise until next month, I hope bitcoin prices could reach $ 700

We are believing on the same thing all of us here in this forum, we would like to see bitcoins price to go up further more because we are all investing on bitcoin for sure. Dumps are just part on bitcoins ecosystem because there are  things that affect why the price is going up and down.
8648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: September 10, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
If you accidentally find a private key and you can't know the owner, then its probably not illegal.
Its imposible that you can find a private key in internet for free. unless if you made a private key generator and try to install it in electrum..
Or if you have bought a data base with a lots of private key and addresses and you have a brute force we can say that is an illegal..

The whole point is that it's statically impossible to find private keys, even if you have a number generator.  But there is always a random chance of finding a key. That's not stealing.

Hacking into someone's network or phone is stealing.

Finding  private  key is somewhat impossible  as same as others said  even if you used number generator  its still useless. You are right if you bought  a database then its possible to access those accounts thats not yours which is trully an illegal thing to do. At OP if   he get those bitcoin on that wallet address  then it might not be considered as stealing since if he intend to give back those coins he didnt even know whos the owner of that bitcoin.
8649  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I do trading? on: September 10, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
Trading is not hard to understand and you need to find some exchange website that you can trust or in short your second bitcoin wallets home, For im holding my bitcoin which i get from my weekly campaign so that i can have a capital to start trading , And i choose yobit as my trading where i can stock those alternative coins.

You are right , we  made the same thing  that i used  my signature campaign earnings on trading. I do  use my earnings on yobit since i joined to their campaign and i directly purchase coins from there and make some good profits but be sure  that we must choose the right coins in able to have a profitable trade hence, there are lots  of dead coins  on yobit site.
8650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: September 09, 2016, 03:58:29 PM
Please post here to cry about your gambling losses. No bragging about winnings or tips please, this is only for pure crying, whining, complaining, and venting your frustrations.

This thread had to be made because there are too many crying threads, this should help save forum space.

I believe this thread should be stickied as well.


I didnt cry when i lose money in gambling since i already know on what would happen on the long run and  i risk only my  extra money just to entertain myself and  after that  ill stop and dont intend to add up even more  money  because  in this case it would surely wreck your life.
8651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 09, 2016, 03:56:12 PM
For me if you can make profit in the long run then you have skill and lucked on your side because for me theres no 100% chance that you are making profit in the long run because sometimes if you spend too much time on that website you can probably lose everything.

bet discipline so I think it's possible to win in the long term, although it is not possible for you always win, but if you are smart to manage everything up, it should be able to win in the long run. I like playing every weekend and bet on sports betting, always run well and every week there is always benefit.
It is easy to say bet with discipline but in real gambling most of us failed to do it, our emotions will take over and we lose in the long run. If we have tried many times but we still failed, we should start to accept the reality that gambling is not for everyone and only those people with extreme skills will be given a chance to win in the long run.

True, because  i experience such thing when  im in the middle of the game which my emotion do  control me and its really hard to control and it pursues you to bet even more even you are already experiencing lossing streaks which  you  found out later that you lost such big amounts. Thats why we dont let our emotion control over us when we are playing gamblgin.
8652  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: September 09, 2016, 03:54:50 PM
I only invested in poloniex till now and everything went fine. I started lending a week ago so i don't have much experience but i don't think i will have any problems. The only risk is sharp movements in the prices other than that i have no fears.

Good you have nice experince with polo. It is not more risk then anything else i have on my list. Just put small amount you not fear to lose.

Thats right you must  put on your mind  that if you invest you should accept already that you are risking your money and might possible to get lost of those coins that you invested as  long as you are aware on what you are doing  then it might  be good for your investment  and we must  take  effort on it.
8653  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 09, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
a full time job you will always have steady income till you work there so dont go looking at bitcoin for steady income cause that is probably the most unsteady income you could hope for.
Still bitcoin is very profitable but not what your looking for if you want x paycheck amount every month.

I agree, if you want steady income, get a full time job, or enroll in a signature campaign and always meet the qouta.  That way you can have a steady income no matter how big or small it is.   So steady full time job and a well established signature campaign can give youa steady income and a bonus Cheesy

Its better to have a steady day job rather than going with jobs on bitcoin but its not bad since its also another source of income which adds up on your monthly salary of your day job. Handling them both would  really benefited you n the long run. Signature campaigns would do but  the earnings  is not decent  enough to support living.
8654  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you buy Bitcoins? on: September 09, 2016, 03:51:11 PM
I buy bitcoins as a long term investment. I think there is still potential for big gains in the future. I think bitcoin will become more popular over time and therefore more valuable.

Yeah it was a superiority of the bitcoin. Indeed bitcoin we give us convenience and comfort that is better than any other digital currencies, but just the same we must also be careful in storing bitcoin. Because the internet is very prone to happening hacking s and go online shopping to those whose store accepts bitcoin u.s. payment method. Thats why i love to buy bitcoin.

of course bitcoin can give you a lot of confidence, in my opinion with bitcoins you can make some good money in the future

Most of us here  have really faith in bitcoin and  that why we are here in this forum because  we are earning bitcoin and  have high hopes  that it would increase its price in the future and would make  us profitable in long term and short term. We do buy because we believe on the potential of bitcoin.
8655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 09, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
Do not ever try gambling . If you try it once , you can become addicted and can also feel curious .
 If you win , you can become addicted . If you lose, you can be curious .
So , do not ever try gambling .

Depends on yourself, not all people will be addicted when they win and be curious when they lose. If you know how to control yourself then addiction will never be with you. On other hands, addiction on gambling is not that bad imho as long as you are addicted to the game instead of addicted to the "money"


but being addicted to the game  is  also the same because  if you do gambling  you dont play it for free and it also needs money, therefore if you play gambling its always  involves money. Even how many times you said  dont get addicted  on just aiming for profit as long  you are playing you would really got addicted. The most importan thing is that you must be sensible and  aware of what you are doing
8656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 09, 2016, 02:51:12 PM
I did not hear until today that anyone settled in their life because of this Gambling. Yes, only people say that they made a big profit, but they do not make sure that the gambling is fixed their life. Comes to me I am not a regular gambler, and it not set my life and also not wreck my life.
Unless if they are the owner or the dealer of live gambling because if gambling business is really profitable and gambling owner i think never defeat depends if there is hackers monitor for a long time..

Gambling business is really profitable thats why there are lots of gambling sites that are almost existed every month. They saw this business and investments  would surely do good profits on the long run and the players of their site would  get high chance on lossing against the house and thats reality some  gamblers wreck their life.
8657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: September 09, 2016, 02:45:27 PM
Gambling is so fun because we enjoy and at the same time we can also win money, actually it is only fun at the beginning but when you are addicted and you do not have control on your self you will experience the sadness, therefore to continually experience fun, we should also do gambling with discipline.
Yup until we do not lose big amount in gambling till that Gambling gives us More fun. But once we started to lose money back to back it will start to giving us sadness. So play gambling how much you can afford. Then only we can able to enjoy this gambling. If we go for a long run method, then I am sure the day will end with sad.

Lossing your money on the long run would  not enjoyable anymore thats why we need to control our self when we are playing gambling and we must control our emotions and  we must make a limit to our bets or  a good bank roll management with these things you would really enjoy your self  without worrying yourself of getting being wrecked in the end.
8658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice To Earn Or For Fun? on: September 09, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
I am playing dice for some few days and earning instead of losing with a new method invented by my self or even if it was invented before I didn't know anything about it I came up with this method by my self, now you think is it right if I keep winning ?

Do any of you guys earning daily  from dice? or you just play for fun and leave it to chance whether you win or lose?

I don't really believe in strategy in strategies in pure gambling like dice etc.
You are probably on a lucky run. It could even last a few months I guess. Probably not common but possible. If you just keep wining on the long run, then I think you found a problem on the game and not a strategy.
Yes, his lucky days are going now so he is making a profit in Dice game instead of losing. But I am also not trusting this because in Dice game winning percentage is very less and here no strategies will work. So how he is making a profit is a really big question. For me, the Dice game is just fun not to Earn money.
Thats the thing what im thinking about that someone had manage to make profits on dice since  these games are just  made on lossing all your money . I treat dice games  as an entertainment for me and  i really dont expect to get profits with it no matter how you set the odds  the result would be still the same.
8659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 09, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
Most of the times investing is better because its safer and also can be more profitable, if you want to play it safe its better to choose investments most of the time.

You are correct, investments it far away better than gambling because with investments you could possibly earn profits with it although it may have some risk on lossing  your money but not  compared  to gambling which  a more higher chance  to lost  your funds in an instant.  If you think for your future  then its  the wise  decision on  making such investments.
8660  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 09, 2016, 02:27:18 PM
If I was desperate for money I think that I would try to lend some money from the bank because I do not know what else to think of.
I know that lending money costs you more money in the end but sometimes you do not have a choice.

Exactly, it depends on the situation actually if how much time do you have for getting that money, if you have enough time then you might be able to earn some but if you need them too early and the time you have is not enough for earning then you will have no choice then asking for a loan.

That's why just only consider to take a loan if ever a person really needs it badly or really can considered as an emergency or urgent one.

Desperation really happens when the time like that happen.

Also for investment purposes, just take a long term loan if people are already sure on what kind of investment they will choose so that they can bring back the loan without any problem in the accepted terms.

I agree with you there are really some circumstances that we  really need to loan especially when we dont have money at all and theres an emergencies that might happen in the future which really needs financial and thats the time we could  borrow money to someone but be sure to repay when you already have a money so that  everytime you borrow they wont refuse to you since your a good payer.
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