Actually everyone is learn in his own experience, your experience is may be not good with trading, But i want to say not be a personal, trading is not made for everyone, because i have also learn the lesson, from gambling and trading, both are risky and if you know that you are lucky than both gambling and trading would be suit you.
Thats true, everyones learns from its own mistakes that have been done thats why we shouldnt quit easily especially on trading since no one makes a perfect trade on a single try everyone of us suffer losses but if you think that you make continous suffer from lossing trades no matter how you try then you should stop because it might that trading is not for you. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Exactly, we learn from our mistake and experience but sometime we quit our field and go to the other way, but it not for successful man talk, just like he said in his thread, that he quit the trading, because only he has discourage, as we all know that trading is risky so be a man and do it again. I believe all risky fields give us lose, but it doesn't mean that you left it all. As i saw on what OP said , hes trading already for 2 years and the result is still the same. 2 years time is already long and we must able to get trading techniques and experience with since we are trading for long times which we know already the ways and things to avoid. In his case maybe trading is not for him and find another investment that might suits him.
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It easy to save money from monthly salary because if you not spend that much then you can have what you deserve in life first thing to do is don't bye some items that you dont need. Two place and save some money everyday open bank accounta where you can save cents of money so that you can have money when needs are comming.
Thats wont work for the people with small salaries and great needed consomation , so i would suggest investing some part of the salary in profitable and trusted trading platforms. Somewhat you have a point that there are really some people could hardly save because the salary is just right for their needs, how would they invest if they dont have saving? As you say investment means you need money to start and also trading is not an easy thing that can be learned by others so easily.
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Its still doesnt guarantee that if it rise slowly it would also fall slowly. Just like what happen before on bitfinex hack, we certainly stabilize on $670- 680 price then suddenly drop its price because of hack, we really dont know what would happen in the future. if that incident didnt happen then our price as of now might $700+ i guess.
$700+ sounds reasonable. OP was complaining about not reaching yet $1000+. It's quite a difference. I am patient but the next rise will be to $10^4 (so between $5k and $49k). I don't know when it will be, but it will rise to the next order of magnitude.
That would mean either another bubble, either a continuous slow rise for years. I prefer the second. You have a point, its just a another bubble to reach that price would quite unrealistic to consider. As we see the bitcoins price movement as of now its quite slow compare to previous years i guess or just me. If this movement would continue it might not reach a high amount on upcoming years.
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I beg to disagree as this strategy has failed so many times, so what OP is saying is that one can't lose 5 times in a row? Or I didn't get that... When no too long ago someone posted how he lost 14 times in a row... It is gambling for crying out loud which is based on chance and that chance is not a respecter of the numbers of winnings or losses... Its just chance
chance or luck but still we can't say what will be the results 5 lose in a row is not impossible but if you can manage to move away much early i think OP can really win some [profits because of the multiplier that he use just needed to make proper entry and timing when to start and when to go out. But still the method of OP would surely be busted on the long run since house edge do always win. 5 lose in a row in bustabit is not impossible since i used the same strategy what OP said but i did experience 7 lossing streaks on 1.1x betting style. Maybe OP is just to lucky that he didnt end up like me.
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How much money do you make from trading ? Your expect and result, Also never forget to tell your principal
Thank you
I don't know whether it has the same topic like this before or not if yes please post here,
Your question isn`t very specific. What trading?Altcoin or forex? Anyone here can write "I make XXXXX$ from trading."But can anyone proove that he is making that amount? True, there are different kind of trading it maybe forex or altcoin trading because it would lead to confusion to members that would read it. Some may answer on forex trading and some may altcoin which is not the same but one things for sure trading either forex or altcoin is not easy and you would need enough knowledge to be profitable. I didnt experience on forex trading but on altcoin i do trade sometimes i just getting bounty for coins and sell and exchange it to bitcoin directly and decide to buy again potential coins. you just explained it right but since we are in this forum which caters more from bitcoin to alt coin all i can say is that it is hard to calculate the actual loses or earnings because there's always a time frame from each coin when to pump up and when to pump down and i don't want to calculate everything just wanted to make sure that im earning from my investment. We have the same thinking because same as yours im not thinking on my losses which is just normal for me when i do trading . I usually mind on profits when i intend to choose a potential coin. We cant really catch up or know the time frame that you said on when to pump and dump its price of a certain altcoin.
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best way of managing money is investing it becasues if your money is not in form of cash and available to you, they you would not spend it without thinking. that way you have your money put in a good investment and making more money from it but also it is safe and out of your reach to waste.
Investment is an option and can't be considered as ways to manage the money "generally". Managing the money only covered those money in hand on how will you use it to make enough to cover your daily needs. The term in investment thing should be "managing the money in investment". It has an own aspect and different from the general term of "managing the money". Yes investment could be considered as ways on how to grow your money. And actually it could be also part of the plan on how person will manage his money. Like he would save some of it and then when he have enough he could buy some stocks or buy some mutual funds as an investment. And to be able to have savings he need to be really aggressive on where his money goes. Like having a list of his daily expenses. This is the best way on how you manage your money you must list your daily expenses which you could have always a preference. more investments and diversify it would surely give you potential profits which you could also make a saving and pile up on long time and build or invest another business. Thats how it goes and continue for sure you would no have problem in financial things. I agree with you we must have a list regarding on our spending so that we would have an idea on what we should do next and we must limit our spendings on non important things with this method we could save even more and could be used on future purposes. Diversifying is also good.
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Signature campaigns are risk free & you're earning money for just writing replies here. Also, you're increasing in rank which is increasing the weekly or monthly payout too.
Nope , signature campaign has a risk too . Such as spamming in this forum , banned because spamming , join signature campaign with alt account. As long as , you read the rules and not tried to break the rules , you should be fine. True and you have a point there is a risk also on signature campaigns as you mentioned but you could possibly avoid those risk if youre sensible enough about on what you should gonna do when you are already on a campaign. Signature campaigns is the most common way on earning bitcoin here in this forum.
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I would not. I can use bitcoin as a partime job in which I can earn extra money but cannot get an full time income on bitcoin I think.
for now yes we can't but if we learn more especially when we learn how to do alt trading maybe i can say that we can leave our day job, alt trading will give us a lots of opportunity to earn more than what we have in our regular day job so basically im just preparing myself to learn much deeper coming from alt trading before proceeding and invest huge amount of my investment. I would disagree with you, altcoin trading would really give you decent amounts when you have a succesful trade but its not on daily basis and some coins may move its price in a matter of weeks or months thats why its still risky if you fully depend on it and you decide to quit your job because of altcoin trading.
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It was no secret if you want to earn bitcoin from bitcointalk only by join the signature campaign and for other way is only continues checking giveaways by some new site. it's the two ways that i know to earn bitcoin in here.
Don't forget to sell your services to make money on bitcointalk, and it's more profitable , also anyone will use your services again if you're services is good and never had a problem with you . Indeed , for sell your services must have skill to sell. Having skills would be an advantage here on this forum especially if you have those technical skills related to programming, graphic design, developer then its a sure skill to be profitable in this forum and not only that you could earn decent amounts and i think its the best way to earn a good amount here.
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bitcoin now is trend up go to rise i hope next month bitcoin price in reach 700dollar every one bitcoin before halving bitcoin price in reach over 700 dollar so its now bitcoin price can rise to reach 700 dollar again
I think the end of September likely to reach $700. also see the price of bitcoin increase quite rapidly 2 weeks earlier was in the range of $575 and is now nearly $625. if price able to reach $700 at the end of this month I hope at the end of the year reached $1000 don't hope too much the price just started rise so still have a chance to go down $ 600, we still have many time for this month so would nice if the price rise step by step. $700 is my hope, not so bad if it could be achieved by the end of this year, but $1000 is a miracle if it could be achieved this year. ya right, price could still go down, as I look at some predictions still say that prices could fall to $400. not so sure of it, because I believe bitcoin prices will remain at $500 if a decreased trend. I think it would surpass $700 in the end of the year since we saw the price as of now its already on $630+ which a little bit more rise it would reach $700 in no time but we should not be confident or expect too much since we dont know what would be the price on upcoming months and we dont know the things that may happen along the way.
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no big dump, the price remains above $500, even after the news about hackers bitfinex, bitcoin prices recover quickly enough, although not completely. so I think this is all going to be fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Previous $670 mark price dump to $540 max because of the finex incident but still its not considered as a big dump, its just a $100+ price drop and as we can see now as of today that bitcoins price is already recovering up and going to $600+ ongoing. Price dumps are just normal because of some circumstance but still bitcoin would probably recovers. I also believe bitcoin prices will be stable and will probably rise until next month, I hope bitcoin prices could reach $ 700 We are believing on the same thing all of us here in this forum, we would like to see bitcoins price to go up further more because we are all investing on bitcoin for sure. Dumps are just part on bitcoins ecosystem because there are things that affect why the price is going up and down.
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If you accidentally find a private key and you can't know the owner, then its probably not illegal.
Its imposible that you can find a private key in internet for free. unless if you made a private key generator and try to install it in electrum.. Or if you have bought a data base with a lots of private key and addresses and you have a brute force we can say that is an illegal.. The whole point is that it's statically impossible to find private keys, even if you have a number generator. But there is always a random chance of finding a key. That's not stealing. Hacking into someone's network or phone is stealing. Finding private key is somewhat impossible as same as others said even if you used number generator its still useless. You are right if you bought a database then its possible to access those accounts thats not yours which is trully an illegal thing to do. At OP if he get those bitcoin on that wallet address then it might not be considered as stealing since if he intend to give back those coins he didnt even know whos the owner of that bitcoin.
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Trading is not hard to understand and you need to find some exchange website that you can trust or in short your second bitcoin wallets home, For im holding my bitcoin which i get from my weekly campaign so that i can have a capital to start trading , And i choose yobit as my trading where i can stock those alternative coins.
You are right , we made the same thing that i used my signature campaign earnings on trading. I do use my earnings on yobit since i joined to their campaign and i directly purchase coins from there and make some good profits but be sure that we must choose the right coins in able to have a profitable trade hence, there are lots of dead coins on yobit site.
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Please post here to cry about your gambling losses. No bragging about winnings or tips please, this is only for pure crying, whining, complaining, and venting your frustrations.
This thread had to be made because there are too many crying threads, this should help save forum space.
I believe this thread should be stickied as well.
I didnt cry when i lose money in gambling since i already know on what would happen on the long run and i risk only my extra money just to entertain myself and after that ill stop and dont intend to add up even more money because in this case it would surely wreck your life.
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For me if you can make profit in the long run then you have skill and lucked on your side because for me theres no 100% chance that you are making profit in the long run because sometimes if you spend too much time on that website you can probably lose everything.
bet discipline so I think it's possible to win in the long term, although it is not possible for you always win, but if you are smart to manage everything up, it should be able to win in the long run. I like playing every weekend and bet on sports betting, always run well and every week there is always benefit. It is easy to say bet with discipline but in real gambling most of us failed to do it, our emotions will take over and we lose in the long run. If we have tried many times but we still failed, we should start to accept the reality that gambling is not for everyone and only those people with extreme skills will be given a chance to win in the long run. True, because i experience such thing when im in the middle of the game which my emotion do control me and its really hard to control and it pursues you to bet even more even you are already experiencing lossing streaks which you found out later that you lost such big amounts. Thats why we dont let our emotion control over us when we are playing gamblgin.
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I only invested in poloniex till now and everything went fine. I started lending a week ago so i don't have much experience but i don't think i will have any problems. The only risk is sharp movements in the prices other than that i have no fears.
Good you have nice experince with polo. It is not more risk then anything else i have on my list. Just put small amount you not fear to lose. Thats right you must put on your mind that if you invest you should accept already that you are risking your money and might possible to get lost of those coins that you invested as long as you are aware on what you are doing then it might be good for your investment and we must take effort on it.
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a full time job you will always have steady income till you work there so dont go looking at bitcoin for steady income cause that is probably the most unsteady income you could hope for. Still bitcoin is very profitable but not what your looking for if you want x paycheck amount every month.
I agree, if you want steady income, get a full time job, or enroll in a signature campaign and always meet the qouta. That way you can have a steady income no matter how big or small it is. So steady full time job and a well established signature campaign can give youa steady income and a bonus ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Its better to have a steady day job rather than going with jobs on bitcoin but its not bad since its also another source of income which adds up on your monthly salary of your day job. Handling them both would really benefited you n the long run. Signature campaigns would do but the earnings is not decent enough to support living.
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I buy bitcoins as a long term investment. I think there is still potential for big gains in the future. I think bitcoin will become more popular over time and therefore more valuable.
Yeah it was a superiority of the bitcoin. Indeed bitcoin we give us convenience and comfort that is better than any other digital currencies, but just the same we must also be careful in storing bitcoin. Because the internet is very prone to happening hacking s and go online shopping to those whose store accepts bitcoin u.s. payment method. Thats why i love to buy bitcoin. of course bitcoin can give you a lot of confidence, in my opinion with bitcoins you can make some good money in the future Most of us here have really faith in bitcoin and that why we are here in this forum because we are earning bitcoin and have high hopes that it would increase its price in the future and would make us profitable in long term and short term. We do buy because we believe on the potential of bitcoin.
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Do not ever try gambling . If you try it once , you can become addicted and can also feel curious . If you win , you can become addicted . If you lose, you can be curious . So , do not ever try gambling .
Depends on yourself, not all people will be addicted when they win and be curious when they lose. If you know how to control yourself then addiction will never be with you. On other hands, addiction on gambling is not that bad imho as long as you are addicted to the game instead of addicted to the "money" but being addicted to the game is also the same because if you do gambling you dont play it for free and it also needs money, therefore if you play gambling its always involves money. Even how many times you said dont get addicted on just aiming for profit as long you are playing you would really got addicted. The most importan thing is that you must be sensible and aware of what you are doing
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I did not hear until today that anyone settled in their life because of this Gambling. Yes, only people say that they made a big profit, but they do not make sure that the gambling is fixed their life. Comes to me I am not a regular gambler, and it not set my life and also not wreck my life.
Unless if they are the owner or the dealer of live gambling because if gambling business is really profitable and gambling owner i think never defeat depends if there is hackers monitor for a long time.. Gambling business is really profitable thats why there are lots of gambling sites that are almost existed every month. They saw this business and investments would surely do good profits on the long run and the players of their site would get high chance on lossing against the house and thats reality some gamblers wreck their life.
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