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8661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: September 21, 2016, 12:56:33 PM
gambling addiction is a horrible thing, because it will make you lose a lot of money, you might think that you have unbeatable strategy but it is impossible

making strategies  in gambling doesnt make sense since theres no strategy on gambling  and  you would definitely lose money when you play gambling because of the house edge. Gambling addiction is  so hard to remove  from yourself especially when you are already got  hooked into it,
8662  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: September 21, 2016, 12:52:47 PM
As the title says, do you think that you're addicted to gambling? or you just don't realize that you're addicted Roll Eyes
If you ask me, i used to addicted to gambling but stopped after suffer big losses even though i'm still in profit.
Well im not addicted on any gambling website because i have control on my self even i got lots of bitcoin on my wallet i consider not to play gambling because i don't feel much safer in gambling where i could lose all my money in just a minute and im just earning it all the way/.
You are doing the right thing and for sure you would  not get addicted into gambling since you play seldom and  does have control on your funds and you are already aware on the risk involve in playing gambling.  For me  i dont really play gambling at all but ive tried some  dice then after that  i never play at all.
8663  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price will be fail to bottom line ? on: September 21, 2016, 12:48:27 PM
It will not happen.  Never.  Since many people now are using bitcoins now, there would be a little chance that its price would fall.  Its life is on the hands of us, people who uses bitcoins.  It always depends on us on how we will handle it. There would be a fall if people will stop using it.  If no one demands for it.  That would be its end.  In case it goes down, I would buy some. Grin

You cant  assure of  that bitcoin would have no end since lot of things in this world  have ending but  as you said  bitcoin would  impossible to die as of now since its been used  by many people as of now. As you said if no one uses bitcoin  then it would surely die but as we can see as of now  bitcoin is being used already by many people.
8664  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why price of Bitcoin too stable? on: September 21, 2016, 12:13:01 PM
I am really interested why the price of Bitcoin is too stable now, probably no investors to buy Bitcoins?
Or peoples don't trust Bitcoin now?
Probably just a small stable period?
Stable price of bitcoin maybe traders are waiting for the price has increased or they may have planned the big holders of bitcoin drive up its price . So it's better to keep aside our bitcoin good sign because it is not quite the price moves he might suddenly be increased by not knowing it .

Stable price as of now means  theres no sellers and theres no buyers  thats the  cause   of which bitcoin price somewhat stable for now. I agree with you  we  must  hold our bitcoins as of now it might increase again same   what happened last previous week which the price suddenly goes up,
8665  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are floppy disks safe to store wallets? on: September 21, 2016, 12:07:43 PM
I was doing some cleaning on my room and I found some floppy disks, they are around 15 years old! from the Sony brand. I don't have a floppy disk device anymore on my computer, so I used an older computer because I was curious to see if they would still work.
To my surprise, they worked and all the files were accessible.

This made me think that, you could store some Bitcoin related stuff in floppy disks too? Obviously having backups in other places too.. but floppy disks may be yet another cheap way to store files. If I put my seed key in a txt (compressed in a 7z file with a pass) and my wallet.dat file on that floppy disk, it would have lasted for 15 years. I hope that if I do this, in the next 15 years when I find the floppy disks again, I will be rich Cheesy

For  me  i would never do such thing  because in near future you would have a hard time  to open that floppy disk since in future for sure computer wont read anymore floppy disk  as i assumed. Well it would work on   90's years but  bitcoin does exist on 2009 as  far as i remember. Better not to proceed at all, you just risking your money on there. hahha
8666  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you ever lost Bitcoin? on: September 21, 2016, 12:03:59 PM
I made the mistake of leaving coins at Cryptsy years ago only to come back recently and find them shut down.  Sad
Very sad to lost bitcoin, but sometimes it will gives us more learning to be careful into the next thing we do in our bitcoin, i think now you will be more extra careful on the site that you invest.

mistakes would   make us learn in our  journey with bitcoin and  for sure we wont  make the same mistake again since we are already aware of it. We do lack of knowledge  thats why we commit mistakes which is normal for me and i treat it as a stepping stone  to my success because  i assume that no one didnt commit a mistake  in the beggining.
8667  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 21, 2016, 11:54:59 AM
Are you inspired by those bitcoin millionaires? Are you thinking of filing a resignation letter on your day job (if you have any) and focus on bitcoin instead?

Me? I do have a day job and I consider bitcoin as my side job. I don't want to lose that another source of income just because bitcoin is awesome.

Personally, I would not quit my day job to go full time on bitcoin.  I get a sense of satisfaction out of my day job but with bitcoin, you will never know.
I would never quit my job to going full time on Bitcoin because I am sure that it would not work and I would not make enough money to pay for everything.
It is far better to do Bitcoin on the side so that you do not have to rely on it.
Depends on your capacity mate, it is good to know that you know you have no capacity to go full time with bitcoin, if you value your job because you are relying on that for your daily needs it is better not to gamble of quitting at all.
I think the work in bitcoin can be done in half the time so I think if you have a lot of free time after work at a real job you can fill it with working on bitcoin, so in fact you do not have to get out of your main job to be able to work in bitcoin dude ?

I agree! You shouldnt quit in your job because first bitcoin is not stable also our earnings is not stable unlike our jobs real jobs it is stable. If you have a free time then that is the time to do some.sidelines bitcoins ! Just earn it when you are free

You are right quiting your day job would be  a risky thing to do since bitcoins price is unstable because if we  intend to do full time with bitcoin we cant really sure of having a fixed  stable income on everyday basis since as we all know  earning bitcoin is also hard  it do require lots of effort and time.
8668  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcoin affects life a lot on: September 21, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
It is your life, make it what you want it to be.

If you want to go outside more, go outside more.
If you want to commit yourself to Bitcoin, commit yourself to Bitcoin.

I'm sure you'll find a way of making a balance. Smiley
If you make some good money with Bitcoin then I am sure that it effects your life somehow because in this world it is all about money and who has more or enough.
I am sure that Bitcoin has made allot of peoples lives a bit easier.

You are right, bitcoin is money and  people does need it to survive for daily living which means  that bitcoin does really affects people lives especially on to those who are in need of  extra income and which bitcoin does support it which we should be thankful that  bitcoin was created would somehow relief on the  scarcity  of others in terms of financial.
8669  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: September 21, 2016, 11:35:10 AM
Yes I think its worth believing into the bitcoin because it has a great future a head and it stays a good investment if you are asking me.
we should all just have patience and stay believing right now.

Bitcoin is really the future of crypto currency and as well as currency of the whole nation. And while it is still on its early years if you are going to believe and adopt it today and you are going to have bitcoins already while the price is still low. So when the price is going to increase, then you can just going to simply get a profit with it.
We have seen in the past that those who believe in bitcoin is already rich now, and for me I will still believe because I consider this stage where we are now is too early yet and we can still make more money in the future as bitcoin has more room to grow, we just have to continue to support bitcoin.

you have a point though , its not to late to invest into bitcoin same as the thing  that they do when bitcoin is just starting up they believe then they succeed  and  become rich especially to those early adopters of bitcoin. As of now bitcoins price isnt high enough  to be scared  to invest, its still young  and could still grow further.
8670  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: September 21, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
Diversify is the best strategy. There is no good reason to go all in on any one single thing. Mix it with stocks, foreign currency, Bitcoin, even gold or silver and you will be far better off. Even saving money is a part of diversifying.

Correct. Never put all your eggs in one basket. In other words, never put all your investments in a single asset or commodity. This applies to crypto currencies as well. To protect against inflationary currencies like fiat, it is best to invest into Gold and Bitcoin. BTC can be seen as digital gold where it fights inflation after each halving making it more scare as time goes by.  Grin

Yes, you have the idea that we must diversify our  investment  but  the big question is, do we  have a money to invest on the things you mention? FOr sure  most of us would definitely a hard time since investing   into it is no joke even in a single investment you would surely lend all your money. If you were rich then theres no problem at all.
8671  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: September 21, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
Isn't investing in BTCBTCBTC casinos simply betting against the players?

Or are there programs that give you dividends from the fees?
If the game has greater than 0% house edge, which is the case almost everywhere, then investors are at advantage over players.

Correct but if any players win big amount then investors may need to wait for long time to recover back their money otherwise they investors are always makes money from these casino investments in the long term. But shorter term it may be quite risky.
That might not always be the case. Just a like a player may win big amount, they can lose big amount as well, yielding BIG profit for investors in bankroll.

You are right , ive notice some  investments on casino sites sometimes  give you a positive profit sometimes a negative one which theres nothing at all since  theres a possibility also that they would suffer losses because   it cant really be avoided for someone to wig  huge amounts even there a house edge. Thats why its quite risky.
8672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: which dice site is better ? on: September 21, 2016, 11:14:49 AM

If you want to find the best site to play dice you should go to google and search for it because every gambling site has almost the same things so you can almost use everyone.

Why do you want to go to google search? You can find many good trusted sites to find in this forum itself, no need of any google search. Bitselr is also one of the best site for dice game, got a good support to help you and the withdrawals are instant. If you want, you can try and check this site.
I think there needs to testimony from any user or gambler so we know which sites are the best dice and trusted to be able to use to gamble and earn a profit, so it is not a matter of making a topic about which sites best dice, because if you're looking for a article on google could have been an article of staff a site dice

doesnt matter at all since all could give his  testimony which site does he play , they may differ  on appearance at all but  the  game would be the same  and also theres no such specific site that would give  you profits. All  of dice sites are just depending  on luck on able to win.
8673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 21, 2016, 10:45:41 AM
I 'm only a small invest in gamble because if you do not beat me greatly . Because I know myself that gambling luck is needed . And gambling should not be vicious because most addicted to gambling because of their desire to win big . And others are becoming greedy because of gambling .
So i do invest a small enough to me for to beat so i did not think much because it is small capital

playing gambling with small amount is really safe the rest of our money, but its different, if we use the rest of that money to play gambling even we know that we only get loss. so this is what the best we can do while we play gambling.

Even how small you bet  on playing gambling  its still gambling and  when you play everyday its a sign of  addictiveness whichis not good. We would  lose too much money if we intend or keep on playing  on  long time because gambling is designed  to loss its players. So the best way to stop loss then we should not play gambling after all.
8674  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: September 21, 2016, 10:32:11 AM
Advice, tips, speculation please.
I think that you should hold on to them because the value of the Bitcoin is going to rise sooner or later so hold on to them.
Then you can sell them for a profit, so I suggest that you do not do anything else with them.
Though the price is unstable in bitcoin but it can not rise to that must that people are expecting it to be.o p should invest 1-2 bitcoin in eth or dash ,they both have good scope in future.

Well investing on altcoin isnt bad after all since its also good  to diversify your money  in able to make money more if one investment doesnt work out. You are correct we must not expect too much  that bitcoin price would definitely  rise up in the future since we really dont  know on what way would the price go.
8675  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did I tell you? BTC will stay down under $600 on: September 21, 2016, 10:26:33 AM
The price is under $600 again, I don't know why the big dump happened. I bought bitcoin at $620, now I am at loss   Cry

No need to panic about it... Just consider it as fund for a while til the price goes up higher than the price when you bought it... I checked it and that was a long red candlestick, which also happened last time this month also... I think, like everyone said, it is normal... Just avoid watching the price too much, it will just stress you out...  Smiley
You are right is  just a normal thing  in bitcoins price movement. Its  not a rare case though since it does really drop its price sometimes  and then suddenly goes up again. True, watching too much  on bitcoin price would surely gives you stress because  you are always expecting that the price would go higher  on the amount  you bought it.
8676  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: September 21, 2016, 10:23:49 AM
You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin.
Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit

....
thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that

Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000
If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now  Grin

For sure  if   the pizza guy would able  to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but  sad to say that was before in the past which is  somehow a very regretting  situation.  Manipulating price  or moving bitcoins price would  definitely  need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or  to be  bought,
8677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: September 21, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.
Only difference is chances of your getting caught is less with Bitcoin.That is why bitcoin should be used with much care a needs to kept safely

Yeah indeed. Ofcourse stealing bitcoin is illegal cause taking anything which isn't yours without permission is illegal. BUT they can't really catch you so easily cause bitcoin is so anonymous so it's the perfect crime but still it's a crime.

It seems a lot of you guys are answering the question from the header directly, you should read op's scenario. I don't think it's stealing because in his scenario he didn't plan to take anyone's Bitcoins. He merely created a new address and found Bitcoins in it, he didn't 'steal' them, he got them because of some glitch. In a case like this I would totally keep the coins for myself  Grin

you have a point , OP  just accidentally  generated a new bitcoin address which theres already funds in it which is a very rare scenario  because as we all know new addresses are unique  and  cant possibly have identical. In his case  it wont be considered as stealing since he dont use force or does have any intentions to steal it from the owner.
8678  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best place to buy more than 100BTC on: September 21, 2016, 10:14:22 AM
Hi Guys,

I was wondering about the safest way to buy more than 100BTC? I would really appreciate your feedback guys

There are  reputable  exchanges out there  that could directly buy 100 worth of btc but same as other said  it would need some verification.  I would suggest coinbase because  ive tried  to buy some bitcoin there  it was fast and easy. I wouldnt suggest buying  on personal since the risk of being  hold.-up would be high.
8679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 20, 2016, 02:36:30 PM
Investing money is much better than gambling.
When you gambling, you play against the HE, when you invest, you play with the HE Smiley

Investment is a better option, albeit you still have a chance of losing everything even if you invest in the House Edge if someone's luck is enough to get a good gain gambling on that site wherever you have invested your coins...

That's why when you invest your money don't put in any new sites which got very less bankroll, and it can be easily eaten away from big players. You should choose a well-established site to invest but your earnings may be slow on these sites but safer to compared to investing on new sites.
Exactly, usually new sites offers good investment program but when you are a wise investor you will not just easily believe on that because in the business what is important is the trust, even if your are just earning a little amount but that is already considered as profit and you can accumulate it to a bigger amount if you receive it continuously.

Yeah that is definitely correct,

Trust is the foundation in business,

Because for example, if you are earning a lot in a business which is not trusted at all and you've invested a lot in it, and it dissolve then good bye money and your profits are not that high enough to compensate the amount of money you've invested in to that said investment site.

So it is better to look for a trusted business to invest your precious money with.
We smart to invest dont invest in ponzi site. better to invest to your knowledge and start your own business using skills..
This is i think that you will not lose and you can use it lifetime. not unlike you invest it to a project that you didnt know how long they will alive..


Why not try to invest in bitvest as you are going to be with the house edge or if you don't want to invest in gambling sites. Then you are just going to do simply as trading.

Because trading for me is a good way to get good profit if you are just going to be a good trader to it. But if you can do it both, gambling and investing at the same time.

Then that is going to be better.

Investing on a gambling site  is also a good thing you are with the house edge which is quite profitable on  long run but theres still a risk since we dont  know when  they would stop to operate. Trading is the most common way but its not for all since trading would require knowledge and skills to be profitable.
8680  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn 0.1 Bitcoin in month? on: September 20, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
You can start trading if you have already good knowledge about it, there is many Bitcoin's users earning good profit with trading. Also you can selling your skills in the marketplace section
Trading won't gives you 100% of earning where there are chance that you can earn that much of bitcoin by chance but there are chance also that you could lose bitcoin and if he has already good knowledge in trading then he could use forex because there you need skill.

Very true on doing trading  you cant assure yourself to be profitable  100% in any moment since  you could also surely experience some loss  because  prices are moving in different ways and you cant predict it anytime. Just like as you said forex would do  require some skills to be profitable. 0.1 btc a month would be possible here in this forum by doing  the basic signature campaigns.
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