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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 08:51:42 PM
Bitcoin Gold has just listed on Coin Market Cap
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/

So far it's valued at more than BitCash

ridiculous. they don't have a blockchain and it looks like they won't for quite a while yet - https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/785aqe/daily_discussion_monday_october_23_2017/dosannj/

there's no way it should be listed. it's nothing but a future that may not ever be redeemable.

Neither did Cash or Segwit2x before being listed

When the fork block happens it's just a save of the blockchain nothing more the actual release it slated for 1 week later this was made public over a month ago now if the code is not ready in time this may be pushed back but I asked them about this maybe last week and was told things were still on schedule

Current future market value if it holds or increases puts Gold in #3 and pushes ripple down to #4 and cash down to #5
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 08:34:38 PM
rip bcg

g ? don't you mean h
883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 07:55:18 PM
Bitcoin Gold has just listed on Coin Market Cap
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/

So far it's valued at more than BitCash
884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 07:43:34 PM

Pulling data now from the exchanges with futures

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/
885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 07:31:28 PM
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/

No data yet but its listed
886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 03:54:06 PM
When mining?

Could be another week yet I wouldn't expect to be able to until November
887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 02:08:44 PM
Hello, Just a few question. I don't know if this is answer or not, But I want to know what wallet I will use to hold my BTC to received BTG? It is the same process on Bitcoin Cash hard fork or not? And Trezor or Ledger Nano S is compatible to received BTG??

I didn't notice the answer on my question was stated on the OP.   Grin


Both Trezor and Ledger have stated support

https://twitter.com/TREZOR/status/922454532839432193

https://twitter.com/LedgerHQ/status/921706672443322368

888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Bitcoin Gold: Because some devs want lambos! Smiley

I believe most of the premined coins will be timelocked and released in the future I think its supposed to be 3 years

How do you know that, people have perception that dev will unload or dump their premine, but if that's the case that will be good for holders or airdrop claimants I still don't know on Yobit why they are giving that high price for Bitcoingold much higher than Bitcoincash.

https://btcgpu.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BitcoinGold-Roadmap.pdf

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889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 01:45:14 PM
There is already a bitcoin version in equihash. Its called BitcoinZ dunno how people missed this during the hype.
Yeah its not a direct copy of the real bitcoin chain, but someone has already tried this with equihash.

Dunno but Roger seems to think BitCash is something special for jumping so high in the CMC charts and if this can dethrone that then ill be more than happy and even happier if it can dethrone B2X it has already peaked above the current B2X futures so its entirely possible
890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 01:22:42 PM
Hi, can not get it. BTCGold is scheduled to be forked up on Oct,25 but you are talking of the coin that is already in existence and traded. Is this a name collision or what?

Fork scheduled on 24, but this at Youbit is something strange.

It's just a future market no different to the one that existed for BitcoinCash before launch and the one that exists for segwit2X already   
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
Hi, can not get it. BTCGold is scheduled to be forked up on Oct,25 but you are talking of the coin that is already in existence. Is this a name collision or what?

It's a futures market trading on IOUs basically you are locking your BTC on the exchange and trading the BTG you will get after the fork and all gets released when the fork happens
892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
Bitcoin Gold: Because some devs want lambos! Smiley

I believe most of the premined coins will be timelocked and released in the future I think its supposed to be 3 years
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 12:45:54 PM
BitgoinGold now live on Yobit https://yobit.net/en/trade/BTG/BTC currently around 0.08 BTC



wow, yobit is very fast to traded there. the price is 0.08 is high enough
I am afraid to buy it right now. I think bitcoin gold is altcoins.

Its almost 0.19 BTC on yobit now ~$1100

EDIT: now almost 0.2 BTC
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 12:35:02 PM
so when can we start to mine this

At least another week
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
BitgoinGold now live on Yobit https://yobit.net/en/trade/BTG/BTC currently around 0.08 BTC

896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 11:06:24 AM
WTF
Your Hashrate: 0.00 KSol/s
Pool Hash: 0.00 KSol/s
Net Hash: 353881.29 MSol/s

hello someone already mine the coin ??
  how did you get this result
Hello friend!
I do not know, it was the pool statistics for half an hour

which pool ?
897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 10:54:08 AM

I would worry more that the cash miners support B2X more and jump over leaving cash dead like all the other failed forks before it (classic, xt, unlimited)

The Segwit2x futures only put at at around 1.5 BTC or ~$900 so far its not looking like much of a threat but it it does succeed we still have all our coins on the other chain  

Also the miners are trying to force the EDA right now (one reduction is already guaranteed to happen)

Well at least they actually went through with the Bitcoin Cash fork. Classic, Xt and Unlimited never even got to germinate since no one was willing to lead the charge. I think Segwit 2X is more of a threat, because they actually have designated a particular block; so they definitely know exactly when they have to all start to charge, in a coordinated manner. However, with no replay protection, I wonder how many of these miners will actually participate in the mutiny they all keep pledging that they will, with their "signaling." We'll see how many of them actually have the balls and which will just quietly go on mining the original chain.

Last I heard, 2x mining signalling is at over 90%. So they'd be foolish to mine the 1x chain - that will all get orphaned on 2x chain. Have you even considered what will happen to 1x block interval with an instant 90% less hashpower?  I'm estimating it will be a block every 100 minutes, each completely full of transactions with very high fees... I don't think using a Segwit address will make much of a difference... and I don't like Garzik and his henchmen one bit... but Kore is done, fired, and I won't shed any tears about them.




Probably the same as when antpool, viabtc, btctop and the rest moved all power to cash... oh wait never mind I forgot the miners go to whats profitable and I can't see the B2x chain being more profitable so far futures put it at near $1000 plus BTG which currently has futures at around $300 so meh I either double up or still own the most profitable chain whichever wins

EDIT: Segwit2x futures are now just over $1000 and BTG futures on yobit that recently launched are close to $1000 both much higher than I ever expected
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 01:09:28 AM

I would worry more that the cash miners support B2X more and jump over leaving cash dead like all the other failed forks before it (classic, xt, unlimited)

The Segwit2x futures only put at at around 1.5 BTC or ~$900 so far its not looking like much of a threat but it it does succeed we still have all our coins on the other chain  

Also the miners are trying to force the EDA right now (one reduction is already guaranteed to happen)

Well at least they actually went through with the Bitcoin Cash fork. Classic, Xt and Unlimited never even got to germinate since no one was willing to lead the charge. I think Segwit 2X is more of a threat, because they actually have designated a particular block; so they definitely know exactly when they have to all start to charge, in a coordinated manner. However, with no replay protection, I wonder how many of these miners will actually participate in the mutiny they all keep pledging that they will, with their "signaling." We'll see how many of them actually have the balls and which will just quietly go on mining the original chain.

I expect most to stay on the core chain with the only ones mining on B2X are the ones mining on cash now

899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 12:44:41 AM
Yes but looking over twitter and reddit comments it may not go as smoothly as expected a lot of users are angry about this and the miners seem to like the old EDA so "could" create a community split like ETH & ETC this was born from differences over an official upgrade


You guys are always complaining the one big miner mines the majority of blocks.
Well whichever way that miner picks is the way that the network will go.

So which difficulty adjustment they prefer will be chosen.
Everyone else can just shutup unless they have a warehouse full of ASICS that can outmatch the big miner, (who has supported Bitcoin Cash from Day 1.)

ASICS Talk  &  Bullshit walks  
(The Way Satoshi intended.)

* I be more worried that segwitcoin falls into a death spiral when 2x appears and the hash is split between 3 chains. *
Whether the EDA is still in place or a new difficulty adjustment, either way Bitcoin Cash has a difficulty adjustment.
Shitwitcoin has no difficulty adjustment in place to stop a death spiral.


╥Aztek

I would worry more that the cash miners support B2X more and jump over leaving cash dead like all the other failed forks before it (classic, xt, unlimited)

The Segwit2x futures only put at at around 1.5 BTC or ~$900 so far its not looking like much of a threat but it it does succeed we still have all our coins on the other chain  

Also the miners are trying to force the EDA right now (one reduction is already guaranteed to happen)
900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 22, 2017, 11:22:06 PM
Happy because bitcoin cash is now ranked 4 and already past Litecoin, I was initially pessimistic about the future of BCH but now everything is answered and no need to hesitate to invest Bitcoin Cash.

It's been dropping like a rock from the main pump in August. It's just a question of how long until it drops below litecoin, and then starts working its way down the list.

My condolences to all who have tried to catch the falling knife, but with the lack of a solid development team, B2X stealing BCH's thunder and cannibalizing its support BCH is going to fade into obscurity. At least be sure to get out before Coinbase and other remaining services release their coins and further waves of dumping hammer it.

Why does Coinbase hold those coins back for so long at all? Does anyone know the reason? I haven't been following that.

Probably because they don't support this but are having to reluctantly support it due to user demand so right now there working hard on getting Segwit2x which they do support ready for when it forks first
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