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881  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: September 02, 2023, 09:34:52 PM
Ah coinlocket$ è italiano o comunque ha partecipato alla board italiana?  Roll Eyes non sapevo! Lo becco spesso nella board gambling discussion dove è molto attivo! Ma non sapevo che aveva partecipato alla board italiana
882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: September 02, 2023, 09:27:33 PM
Atalanta - Monza 3-0
Napoli - Lazio 1-2

as I said a few weeks ago, the potential of the title contenders will be seen during the direct clashes between the title contenders. Today Napoli lost playing at home and against a good Lazio but the defeat is undeserved given that Napoli played much better than Lazio. Yesterday Milan won against a horrendous Roma and took the lead alone. Obviously it is still early to say who will definitely win the tournament, there are too many games left but it is already possible to make more accurate estimates


I would say yes! this championship starts uphill for Roma, just one point in 3 matches is very little! I can understand that many important players are missing due to injury, but tonight I really saw Roma absent, no valid game ideas, this was a big match not to be missed against Milan. I think Mourinho will have to work hard to get this team back on track. However, Roma fans will be unlikely to challenge Mourinho, after all he is the coach who won them the Conference League and last year took them to the Europa League final, and the fans will be forever grateful.

I was honestly shocked how few people managed to hold up
Milan really amazed me with their performance, maybe they are recovering
For Roma, on the other hand, it was a crazy beating, a slap that we hope will help wake them up a little

Nothing to say about Milan's performance! they played to win and they succeeded. What stands out most to the eye was the bad performance of all of Rome! really embarrassing, they only woke up in the 70th minute and even playing in numerical superiority they didn't know how to take advantage of the advantageous situations they had
883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: September 01, 2023, 10:32:16 PM
The problems are getting more serious for Roma. It was like they weren't on the pitch in the first half. The last 30-minute part of the match was some hope for Roma after the red card. However they barely scored a goal in the stoppage time. Leao's goal was really incredible by a half volley by the way.  Smiley

I'm happy to see that Milan won of course as I was expecting for that. They started this season much better than Roma so they were the closer side to the win on paper. But I must admit that I didn't expect Roma to perform this poorly. There is still no win after 3 matches for Roma. Maybe it is early but some people might start criticizing Mourinho slowly.

I would say yes! this championship starts uphill for Roma, just one point in 3 matches is very little! I can understand that many important players are missing due to injury, but tonight I really saw Roma absent, no valid game ideas, this was a big match not to be missed against Milan. I think Mourinho will have to work hard to get this team back on track. However, Roma fans will be unlikely to challenge Mourinho, after all he is the coach who won them the Conference League and last year took them to the Europa League final, and the fans will be forever grateful.
884  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [DIY] come usare BITCOIN in modo proficuo ed efficiente nella vita REALE on: September 01, 2023, 08:53:14 PM
A me la svizzera viene un pò distante, sapete se in Slovenia o al massimo in confine tra Trieste e Croazia ci siano alternative no kyc? Sono le Nazioni che in un Oretta max ci arrivo anche in auto

Puoi vedere su questo sito coinatmradar.com innanzi tutto se ci sono, una volta che li trovi puoi guardare nel dettaglio  o chiamare la ditta in questione (penso). Non so quanto sia fattibile, ho visto questo sito tanto tempo fa ma per ovvie ragioni non posso usarlo.

Grazie per l'informazione amico! non conoscevo questo sito ma purtoppo non mi visualizza atm nelle vicinanze nelle nazioni che mi interessavano. Sai o sapete per caso se esistono dei cambiavalute anche estere che accettano btc e che non richiedono documenti?

No mi dispiace, purtroppo le nazioni che citi, slovenia e croazia sono per me irragiungibili. Ti posso dire se questa cosa la puoi fare a malta (chiedo ad amici miei) ma quegli stati sono veramente fuori portata per me.
Prova a scrivere nel forum croato o serbo, se non mi ricordo icopress dovrebbe essere di quelle zone.

Per parlare con loro puoi usare google translator, siamo un forum internazionale, sfruttiamo questa cosa!

Siamo all'opposto Grin a me Malta è davvero irragiungibile, almeno che non mi trovi in ferie nella mia amata siculandia. proverò a chiedere nelle board che hai proposto, tentare non nuoce! sperando di trovare riscontri positivi. comunque se non sbaglio icopress dovrebbe essere Ukraino non serbo ma magari sà qualcosa anche lui
885  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: [DIY] Come creare un signing device utilizzando un vecchio smartphone on: September 01, 2023, 08:48:48 PM


secondo me si hanno più smartphone che scheletri negli armadi  Grin Grin
io in primis quelli vecchi non li butto mai, li conservo! magari diventano d'epoca e prendono valore (magari!!)
ecco una cosa da non sottovalutare sarà la obsolescenza programmata, ormai tutti i device sono creati così, ma basterebbe non aggiornare il device e caricarlo di os che diventano sempre più pesanti e l'hardware non riesce poi più a reggerli

Non aggiornarli non mi pare proprio una buona idea, ma se sei pratico puoi mettere gli OS open leggeri. Io non mi sono mai cimentato in questa opera ma ci sono delle guide e mi pare di capire che sei uno smanettone di quelli duri e puri.
Puoi provare a mettere uno di questi OS se vuoi recuperare qualche vecchio smartphone.

Abbiamo tuttavia un trend contrario verso i dumb phone leggevo in un articolo, mi fermo qua siamo OT.

Non è una buona prassi ma stiamo parlando in questo thread di tenere offline la pripria chiave privata al 100% o quasi, se aggiorni il software (ovviamente se disponibile) per via di forze maggiori devi collegarti alla rete, di conseguenza non hai più la certezza di avere le chiavi offline, questo è il succo del discorso. L'alternativa esiste! aggiorni il device prima di eseguire la guida sopracitata, poi scolleghi il tutto e fine del gioco. Per ricollegarmi alla questione aggiornamento, faccio un esempio pratico, facciamo finta di avere un Samsung S3, ormai vecchio e stravecchio, ma funzionante, pur volendo aggiornarlo sarà anche difficile reperire l'ultimo aggiornamento disponibile per quel tipo di smartphone. come dici tu si può ovviare con un os alternativo ma non saprei dirti effettivamente se ne vale tanto la pena smanettare
886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 01, 2023, 08:39:45 PM
I personally think that maybe Napoli can do better this time. They haven't been regularly joining the Champions League above all else. Therefore there was some lack of experience. They still did great last season of course. Because they made it to the quarter finals. However they couldn't deal with Milan obstacle despite a big effort.

But this time I will be expecting an even more competitive and aware team. They should be able to develop better strategies against especially the experienced teams of the tournament. When it comes to their group now I can just say it is quite easy for them. We should be watching a tough fight between Napoli and Real Madrid for advancing as the leader.

the group where Napoli was placed after the draw is quite within Napoli's reach, I personally think they could finish second in the group without major problems, Real Madrid are the number one candidate to win the group and are favorites to win the Champions League . However, if Napoli maintains last year's pace, they could do even better and reach the semifinals, but it all depends on the post-group draws
887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: September 01, 2023, 08:34:49 PM

Surely the purchase of Lukaku by Roma is an important acquisition, but Lukaku alone will not be enough for Roma to win the Scudetto, Mourinho has already coached Lukaku and I think he will be able to make him express his qualities to the fullest! we will see in the coming days if José will be able to shake up his Roma, who have only collected 1 point in the standings in the last 2 games


it means many things that Lukaku goes to Rome and not to Juventus
- it means that Juventus doesn't have much money
- it means that Chelsea want to unload Lukaku
- it means that Roma have very high ambitions

I could say that this is a good sign, the championship becomes more balanced, more teams will fight for the Champions League and consequently the matches will be a lot of fun

in the end what matters is that, we pay to have fun

I would add one more option,
- Lukaku was hoping for a top team but there was little time left and the only one who made an offer was Roma Grin

Lukaku will certainly make Roma's attack make a leap in quality, but Roma's midfield in my opinion is not among the strongest around

Well, it could also be said that Juve now has many problems and since Lukaku can't get out of competitions anymore, except in pure Serie A, then that is a limitation for him as a player and also he wants to be champion of something, but champion, no. Regardless of what competition, it has to be and he wants to be champion, personally I would think that Lukaku chose a great team, Roma is a team that promises a lot, in the Europa League they showed great football and as I said before, I think they They did not have the required luck, despite the fact that it was seen as something that was stolen from Roma, they reached a final that against all odds was won by a good Sevilla, they had a great line-up and they were a little more prepared to win, the Mou that day because he became somewhat excited, he fought with many people, and at once he was seen with such intensity, what the Mou did was great news , honestly what I think is that the Mou can do more things with this team and He wants to get rid of the spin, and with Lukaku he can do it , now the Combination of Lukaku and Dybala is very good.

Chelsea release brutal transfer statement as Romelu Lukaku reacts to Jose Mourinho reunion



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Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku's awkward exit from Stamford Bridge has been highlighted in an incredibly short goodbye statement from the club with the Blues failing to wish the star any type of good luck as he joined AS Roma on a season-long loan.

The 30-year-old had spent most of the summer looking for a way out of manager Mauricio Pochettino's ranks after he told the Argentinian he didn't want to be part of his plans going forward.

Pochettino's response was swift - sending him to train with the reserves and reportedly not speaking with Lukaku until he left the club - with the manager looking to make his stance clear from the outset.

Following his loan move at Inter Milan last season, Lukaku claimed he didn't want to return, leaving supporters to brand him a 'traitor' while Juventus and Chelsea had reportedly agreed a deal before Lukaku declined to negotiate for personal terms.

Source: https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/chelsea-release-brutal-transfer-statement-27629199

At Inter there was a lot of discontent with Lukaku, he can be in the club he wanted, but here he emphasized something a lot, he didn't want to return to Inter, and it's strange, because he's a player who can decide, now with everything what happened because it is a great option to take, what he did at Inter was not bad for me, but who knows what happened to him to not want to be at Inter, and if at Roma, but there is something that He must stand out and he wants to stay in an Italian team, Rome will open the doors for this player and it is obvious that things can happen and it can be proven that he can be champion here, with Moyu whatever it is based on football can achieve it, and he knows it, in fact, Mou is a coach who can basically do anything to win, and as I said, he has a home for victories, and with a Lukakyu who can get along with Dybvala it would be great what they can do, a goal festival if they set their minds to it.


I do not doubt the technical qualities of Roma, which is a great team, but to date I do not see her as a contender for the title. This is the proof tonight that he is losing to Milan at home and is playing a really embarrassing game, the first shot on goal was made in the 70th minute. Lukaku will have to put on his shoulders the entire offensive department of Roma if he really wants to win something, if he really wants to become a champion, In the inter a team that played mainly to get him the best chances and put him in a position to score goals
888  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [DIY] come usare BITCOIN in modo proficuo ed efficiente nella vita REALE on: August 31, 2023, 07:45:13 PM
A me la svizzera viene un pò distante, sapete se in Slovenia o al massimo in confine tra Trieste e Croazia ci siano alternative no kyc? Sono le Nazioni che in un Oretta max ci arrivo anche in auto

Puoi vedere su questo sito coinatmradar.com innanzi tutto se ci sono, una volta che li trovi puoi guardare nel dettaglio  o chiamare la ditta in questione (penso). Non so quanto sia fattibile, ho visto questo sito tanto tempo fa ma per ovvie ragioni non posso usarlo.

Grazie per l'informazione amico! non conoscevo questo sito ma purtoppo non mi visualizza atm nelle vicinanze nelle nazioni che mi interessavano. Sai o sapete per caso se esistono dei cambiavalute anche estere che accettano btc e che non richiedono documenti?
889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 31, 2023, 07:37:20 PM

Surely the purchase of Lukaku by Roma is an important acquisition, but Lukaku alone will not be enough for Roma to win the Scudetto, Mourinho has already coached Lukaku and I think he will be able to make him express his qualities to the fullest! we will see in the coming days if José will be able to shake up his Roma, who have only collected 1 point in the standings in the last 2 games


it means many things that Lukaku goes to Rome and not to Juventus
- it means that Juventus doesn't have much money
- it means that Chelsea want to unload Lukaku
- it means that Roma have very high ambitions

I could say that this is a good sign, the championship becomes more balanced, more teams will fight for the Champions League and consequently the matches will be a lot of fun

in the end what matters is that, we pay to have fun

I would add one more option,
- Lukaku was hoping for a top team but there was little time left and the only one who made an offer was Roma Grin

Lukaku will certainly make Roma's attack make a leap in quality, but Roma's midfield in my opinion is not among the strongest around
890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 31, 2023, 07:20:36 PM
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I am obviously not happy aboit this draw due to some certain things. I am a fan of England teams and I have been having a great affection for Newcastle but I am just surprised to see a deadly fixture for them.
PSG
Dortmund
AC Millan
Newcastle
This is not a good draw for a club that first appeared in the Champions League recently. This means that Newcastle might not qualify from the group stage of this year's Champions league. Just sad

It seems like Group F is the one that attracts my attention the most in this group phase, I'm not even sure which team will qualify for the next phase. AC Milan has made quite interesting progress so far, especially when they brought in new arrivals in this summer's transfer window.
As for Dortmund, this team cannot be underestimated, in fact they could have surprises. Even though in two matches in their domestic league, Dortmund did not play with their best performance.
PSG, is the most interesting part.
I want to know how Luis Enrique carries his team's squad when they play their matches in the Champions League. the reason is, their opponent is not an easy team to overthrow.
Newcastle, which is hard for us to guess. even though they have just returned to competing in this league, we cannot yet confirm how they will play their matches in this group phase. I think either way, they have a pretty good team. Let's see how they will face their opponents, and at the same time test the mentality of Eddie Howe's squad.


I think Milan can show the best performances with these teams, obviously it's a very difficult group, the slightest mistake could cost you dearly. Unfortunately there are no low-level teams in this group, but they are all of the same level and I'm sure they will put on a show in every match in group F

891  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: voci di insolvenza di bittrex - strano accadimento stamattina on: August 30, 2023, 07:52:48 PM
Fino a qualche mese fa non tutti gli exchange richiedevano il KYC, oppure te li chiedevano solo se dovevi fare trading e withraw di grossi volumi, tipo mi viene in mente Kucoin che fino a poco tempo fa se dovevi prelevare fondi fino a 2000$ non richiedeva KYC, con KYC invece potevi prelevare fino a 200 bitcoin al giorno o una roba simile, ecco perché il VPN potrebbe entrare in gioco, potevi maggiorare la privacy se non avevi KYC
892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 30, 2023, 07:36:20 PM
It is very risky for Liverpool to lose Mohamed Salah because he is not like his former team-mates like Firminho or Mane and Mohamed Salah is still in his best form so his contribution is still very much needed for Liverpool. Even if Mohamed Salah leaves for a Saudi league team, it will only prevent Liverpool from achieving their initial target of being able to compete in the top 4 again. Mohamed Salah's role is more important than any other player at the club and Jurgen Kloop must be able to persuade him to stay at least until this season before Jurgen Kloop finds a suitable replacement for him.
Seeing how Sadio Mané's absence from the club has been felt by the Liverpool team so far, and if we talk about Mohamed Salah's departure from Liverpool, I do think it will greatly affect the entire Liverpool team's performance because it is almost like the team was built or structured around Mo. Salah since his arrival at Anfield. But the management of Liverpool should ensure that they make a good replacement for him before letting him go; hence they may experience another setback this season.

a top player like Mohamed Salah will be difficult to replace in such a short time available to make purchases in the transfer market, I wouldn't be surprised if Mo Salah moved to Saudi Arabia, now with their stratospheric contracts they are tempting for everyone! all are willing to lose prestige to get money in exaggerated amounts
893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 30, 2023, 07:28:06 PM
this year the scudetto fight will be very fierce, Napoli Inter Juventus Milan they are all at the same level and I think they will fight to the end, Juventus not playing the European cups could have an advantage, we will see what happens during the direct clashes between Inter Juventus Napoli and milan. these are the matches that decide the fate of the championship
For real, it is going to be a tough battle in the scudetto this season with all the teams intent on winning. Napoli can still successfully defend their title, they were able to keep some key players in their team that were important and contributed to their win last season in the team, they did not loose players like Victor Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia to other big teams in this transfer season. They already have a good start to the season. Other clubs like AC Milan still have a very good start and should not be overlooked as possible candidates to win the league too.
Indeed, Serie A is now more competitive and the competition is very tight from other teams, but for Napoli there is still a big chance to get the Scudetto title again this season and for other teams, they are currently trying to appear consistent to continue to pursue the title even though they have to compete with Napoli. .

but there is one big team that makes me a little regretful, namely Roma, which at this time for some reason almost lost its performance and failed in a few matches earlier this season, even their fans were disappointed with the decline in performance at the start of this season and somehow Mourinho seemed to have a little trouble improving Roma performance to be like before or just because Mourinho this season can not get enough new players.
for a while I avoided betting on Roma because 2x let me down.

@len01 while Roma didn’t have the best start but their fortunes are about to change because they have signed Lukaku pending some small formalities and he’ll guarantee them lot's of goals and his experience of playing in Serie A is a bonus. Furthermore I have already said it and I’ll repeat that Roma can definitely win the league title and Mourinho will definitely want to win the title and now he has the perfect opportunity so too early too rule Roma out.
@Juggy777 No doubt the arrival of Lukaku will boost the attacking line of Roma, and high their moral, because he is an experienced striker, who has played in the league and premier league, such a top league experience is enough for him to deliver in Roma, wish I believe strongly he will deliver. But winning the league this season is hard for them, Juventus is and Napoli are favourite for the title.

Surely the purchase of Lukaku by Roma is an important acquisition, but Lukaku alone will not be enough for Roma to win the Scudetto, Mourinho has already coached Lukaku and I think he will be able to make him express his qualities to the fullest! we will see in the coming days if José will be able to shake up his Roma, who have only collected 1 point in the standings in the last 2 games
894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 29, 2023, 08:56:46 PM
I love Arsenal too, but when it comes to playing against Manchester United, my legs begin to wobble.
Arsenal and Manchester united have had a long history dating back to previous premiership seasons which see both clash with Manchester United claiming the upper hand.
Things have sure changed these days and though both teams could be evenly matched in both technicality, tactics and youth, the game might likely come off as draw or be in favor of Manchester United.
I do however beg to differ and would opt for an above 1.5goal margin.
Arsenal still surprises me with their sudden remarkable, outstanding performance from the previous season, gaining good results presently is all dugged out during the time Mikel Arteta was appointed by Arsenal board, they trusted him and gave him an extended period to relaxed and adapt to the team, checking out the present condition  of the gunners, they immensely changed for the better. Moreover this is new season, I expects the very best outcomes from them, specifically pointing out to the game between Arsenal and Manchester United.

I must say that the work done by Mikel Arteta up to now has been a great job and the results have been seen, a pity that last year they failed to win the Premier League by dominating it for most of the time! this year, however, they have to work on the mistakes they made last year if they don't want to repeat what they suffered last year, they started the championship very well this year but the last game despite playing with an extra man they let themselves be joined by fulham in the final minutes, these are not points to lose along the way if you want to win the championship
895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 29, 2023, 08:39:28 PM
this year the scudetto fight will be very fierce, Napoli Inter Juventus Milan they are all at the same level and I think they will fight to the end, Juventus not playing the European cups could have an advantage, we will see what happens during the direct clashes between Inter Juventus Napoli and milan. these are the matches that decide the fate of the championship
For real, it is going to be a tough battle in the scudetto this season with all the teams intent on winning. Napoli can still successfully defend their title, they were able to keep some key players in their team that were important and contributed to their win last season in the team, they did not loose players like Victor Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia to other big teams in this transfer season. They already have a good start to the season. Other clubs like AC Milan still have a very good start and should not be overlooked as possible candidates to win the league too.

I believe that Napoli, Inter, Juventus, Milan will most likely fight to the end. I can't tell you with certainty who will win the Scudetto because for me everyone starts on an equal footing, perhaps whoever has more top-level players will be able to fight more, for example Inter have a top-quality reserve player for each starter, but that's all it will be enough, you also need the will to win
896  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: voci di insolvenza di bittrex - strano accadimento stamattina on: August 29, 2023, 08:06:15 AM
Ho dato una veloce ricerca perché sono un po incasinato questa mattina, ma ci sono notizie anche vecchie che citano che è in fallimento, non ho indagato molto vedrò nel pomeriggio, ma questo articolo sembra interessante

https://it.cointelegraph.com/news/sec-announces-24m-settlement-case-against-bittrex-former-ceo
897  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [DIY] come usare BITCOIN in modo proficuo ed efficiente nella vita REALE on: August 29, 2023, 07:48:25 AM
A me la svizzera viene un pò distante, sapete se in Slovenia o al massimo in confine tra Trieste e Croazia ci siano alternative no kyc? Sono le Nazioni che in un Oretta max ci arrivo anche in auto
898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 28, 2023, 09:50:05 AM
Bookmakers especially take into account last year's performance, Inter won two trophies last year, the Coppa Italia and the Italian Super Cup, and were also the Champions League finalists and finished third in the league, they made many changes during the summer transfer market. but according to professionals in the sector, Inter has not weakened but strengthened. A thought that I don't fully share because in my opinion the attack has weakened and also a lot. I still see Napoli as the favorite to win the Scudetto! but time will tell for sure how this season will end
899  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [DIY] come usare BITCOIN in modo proficuo ed efficiente nella vita REALE on: August 28, 2023, 06:54:56 AM
Il lato negativo è che si perde l'anonimato perchè le carte Mastercard richiedono, se non sbaglio, KYC sempre, anche se prepagate.
Personalmente non conosco il servizio ma, a prescindere dalla tua incertezza sul KYC, dubito fortemente che possa mai esistere una possibilità che Mastercard offra un servizio di pagamento anonimo, pure per importi minimi come 50 euro: le possibili complicazioni legali non giustificherebbero assolutamente nessun tipo di possibile guadagno anzi, ci sarebbe perfino il rischio che possano perdere di credibilità dato che potrebbero venire associati a riciclaggio e chissà che altro.

l'anonimato è inteso per il servizio che offre bitrefill non per le prepagate mastercard, perchè acquistando il taglio della ricarica purtroppo devi dichiarare nominativi e dati sensibili, però se a qualcuno non importa tanto la privacy rimane una ottima alternativa al cashout. da studiare se questa operazione alla fine risulti come un effettivo cashout da cripto a fiat
900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 28, 2023, 06:48:08 AM
I give a brief summary of the matches played so far,
the second round gave us many surprises.

Napoli wins and convinces by beating Sassuolo 2-0 with goals from the usual champion Osimhen and Di Lorenzo

Milan put on a show and won with a clear 4-1 against Turin

Fiorentina started very well, going 2-0, they recovered the lead and drew 2-2 against Lecce

Lazio lose again, this time 0-1 against Genoa and now find themselves in last position with 0 points

Roma struggled and lost 2-1 against Verona

After a good start in the first match, Atalanta lost 2-1 against newly promoted Frosinone

Juventus, on the other hand, drew 1-1 against a very fierce Bologna who recriminated a sensational penalty not given by the referee and which most likely would have given Bologna the victory

I think all the bets made in these matches have all gone up in smoke Grin
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