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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 04:57:18 PM
ICN is 7% down compared to yesterday, I suggest you sell.  Wink
I thought HODL and now you want to us to sell. You're not consistent.  Grin  is it possible to invest on ICNP without holding ICN?

My understanding is that you have to own ICN by way of ICO purchase in order to get an invite to the performance fund.  If they dont raise the capital they want, they will open it to the public.  My guess however is that they will have no problem getting that funding from ICO investors and it will not see a piblic offering.

You had to participate in the ICO in order to get invitation to ICNP. Once you get that invite, you can buy-in any way you want - crypto or fiat.
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 03:14:52 PM
^^^^  seems my post above was placed inside the quote.


"Thanks for posting that.  I will definitely need to have a few btc set aside for when the performance fund is offered to ICO participants."

that is if they will not reach the limit. there are lots of investors waiting to get into it, wanting to be a big player. If I have the btc, i'd be the first even if not invited. but just in case, its a good thing to have btc ready.
Till now they Only spend 5000 eth of the performance fund. There is still lot ICO fund performance fund still left.
We have got about a month to ready with Bitcoins to invest in performance fund.

Also, I read somewhere on reddit that you can invest directly with ICN  in the funds.

Did anyone of you participate in the beta testing of performance fund? ( There was a form to be filled for testing)

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Did anyone of you participate in the beta testing of performance fund

Don't think it was released. It should be beta testing for the platform, not ICNP.
883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
The buy tsunami wave is growing on Kraken.  This is a great sign.

Only 162 btc on the sell side to 80k sat.  That number shrinks every day.

Tsunami season ahead of us. We have ICNP tsunami, ICNX tsunami, platform access tsunami, first dividends tsunami, OFM tsunami, debit card tsunami, unique offline key generator tsunami..
And then dividends tsunami strikes again. and then again. and again. and again.
If you find ICN anywhere cheaper - BUY IT

I think Iconomi will be announced a tsunami area soon.


Edit: Inspired by this, of course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgJ73rzabi0
884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 03:07:45 PM
The buy tsunami wave is growing on Kraken.  This is a great sign.

Only 162 btc on the sell side to 80k sat.  That number shrinks every day.

Tsunami season ahead of us. We have ICNP tsunami, ICNX tsunami, platform access tsunami, first dividends tsunami, OFM tsunami, debit card tsunami, unique offline key generator tsunami..
And then dividends tsunami strikes again. and then again. and again. and again.

I think Iconomi will be announced a tsunami area soon.
885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 02:48:54 PM
^^^^  seems my post above was placed inside the quote.


"Thanks for posting that.  I will definitely need to have a few btc set aside for when the performance fund is offered to ICO participants."

that would be a good idea
Smiley
886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
If I put 1000 EUR in Ico, I will get little dividends from the profit... but if I put 1000 EUR in the Performance Bond, it would already be doubled...I want to put money in the performance bond, this was one reason I invested in ICO, to be invited to the big game.


It's performance FUND and not bond..
It was stated here and on reddit few times - the team has ~4.5M usd worth in the funds, so clearly they don't need more funding now.
When they will need, invitation will be sent to ICO participants and if
Quote from:  Jaka
"capitalization limit will not be reached in a few days, we will open ICONOMI.performance also to the public"
887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 01:52:47 PM
Will ICN be part of the performance fund?^^

No. How does that even make sense?
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 11:33:30 AM
I read that Performance Bond was released on friday? Why didn't we get invitation? I am fine to get Dividends, but want to invest in Performance Bond which probably gets much more profit.

They've released it but it's not open for public yet. Consider it to be in a beta testing phase
nothing like a beta testing phase. Real money was invested into Golem ICO.
The reason ICNP is not open for public (first ICO participant, and then to the public) is because they still have ~4.5M usd in the funds
889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 10:39:07 AM
I read that Performance Bond was released on friday? Why didn't we get invitation? I am fine to get Dividends, but want to invest in Performance Bond which probably gets much more profit.

They still have money to invest in the performance fund. ICNP does not need more funds at the moment.
890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 10:22:10 AM
Hi,

I did not mean with the volume...

I was discussing about the price

1 GNT ico price is .000015

and trading at 0.000035

So its almost double of ico price

The question is will iconomi sell of this and get some dividends

Two things:
1. Price is related to volume and the depth of buy orders. You cant't dump 5M golem tokens with almost no buy orders and expect to get that 2x price..
2. Iconomi should not discuss or announce exit strategies, just like they haven't discussed buy-in strategies - it's bad market manipulation.

You put your money into the fund as ICO investor - let the fund manager manage it.
Sit back and enjoy the ride
Smiley
Do you think that their second investment this quarter could be Wings?

Sit back and enjoy the ride
Smiley
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 09:48:48 AM
Hi,

I did not mean with the volume...

I was discussing about the price

1 GNT ico price is .000015

and trading at 0.000035

So its almost double of ico price

The question is will iconomi sell of this and get some dividends

Two things:
1. Price is related to volume and the depth of buy orders. You cant't dump 5M golem tokens with almost no buy orders and expect to get that 2x price..
2. Iconomi should not discuss or announce exit strategies, just like they haven't discussed buy-in strategies - it's bad market manipulation.

You put your money into the fund as ICO investor - let the fund manager manage it.
Sit back and enjoy the ride
Smiley
892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 09:16:41 AM
Iconomi invest its first in Golem total of 5000ETH

so....

1ETH=0.015btc=1000GNT(golem token)

5000ETH=75 btc=5000000 GNT tokens


Right now on Liqui 1GNT=0.00003 btc

5000000 GNT=150btc

from 75 btc to 150 btc double in a day..Great move..

I just wanna say...get me the fu**k dividends now

Are you for real?
did you see the buy orders there? Are they anywhere close to 150btc?
What about trading volume?

893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 09:14:25 AM
finally a big move! and we are above ico price again!

Come on ... no big move ... is just a lauzy 5000 ETH ... If it would be one of the few 10th of small investments then yes ... but like this, I feel that they are just doing some things so that those that invested cannot say they missed the milestone:
- Put ICN on major exchanges -> most people were thinking on Polo / Rex -> they added it to Kraken (I am sure for many was the first time they heard about this big exchange ... there are reasons for that)
- Start ICONOMI.performance before end of the year -> I am sure people were thinking on few millions invested in different projects that would actually generate some profit that splinted to 100 mil icn would actually mean something -> they invested 50 k USD in an ICO

You see the big discrepancy between what people expect and what the team is doing ? The dangerous thing is not the discrepancy but the fact that they what to leave the impression that they are on time and all its ok. Not cool.

Kraken is a lot better as it can bring fiat to the crypto so all of the tokens benefits unlike in polo and trex.
Whatever it is that the team are doing, the definitely are doing it right. If you wanna buy cheaper ICN, buy now before you miss all the stops.
When you mentioned Kraken can bring fiat to the crypto, I think I now know the reason why ICN have not been listed on Poloniex and Bittrex, it is a legal issue, I din't think Poloniex and bittrex have the license to trade tokens like ICN presently

It was chewed up sever times already, but let's spin that one again..
Why do you think Kraken legal team decided to ignore that?
Kraken and Polo are both regulated, US-based exchanges. If anything, Kraken is much more selective about what gets listed than polo.
Yes, they are both regulated and US-based companies, but what are you going to say about Bittrex, you only need 3BTC to get coin listed on, I'm very sure you agree with me that we need high trading volume and this can be achieved by getting ICN on other big exchanges

well, depends who is "we". I don't consider myself a member of that "we" group for now, because I am long on Iconomi and don't intend to play short with my investment.
I think polo can add a lot to ICN price once the first milestones are achieved - active ICNX and ICNP this year and OFM in 2017.

Said that, I do understand the frustration of all "traders" (people that just want to dump for 3-5x ASAP).
What I don't understand is the small brain they have, thinking that bitching and whining about it here will help somehow.
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 09:08:10 AM

but jokes aside, Kraken is a horrible exchange if you're not in to trading. I'm only a buyer, and that shit was hard to get through

100% agree. Kraken UI is shitty as the teletext from the 90's.
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 08:10:01 AM
Oh goodie, the price went down a bit, since i missed ICN at 15k sat, now is my chance Cheesy

hop up before it is too late
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 08:00:52 AM

I decided to use this every time a "when polo" question pops up.
Depending on the momentary mood and level of trolling, the date may change to 30Feb2017
Wink
897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 07:40:51 AM
From last update on medium by Tim Zagar (ICONOMI.performance fund is launched with the first investment),  Daniel Zakrisson is joining the team as the head of investment evaluation.

I admit I wasn't following Daniel Zakrisson work. After spending some time reading his crowdsale analysis, I can say that IMO it was a very wise choice to add him to the team
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 06:25:09 AM
when iconomi add to poloniex or bittrex?

31Nov2017
899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 14, 2016, 06:07:48 AM


Very true! it's like when ETH was still under $0.50, now it's above $10

very likely. I see that you moved the arrow a little bit to the right, correct?

Indeed, ICN is about to take off.
Soon people will say "I wish I bought more ICN under $1", just like they said with ETH.

yepp, they will.
And we will be here with the popcorn

Just wait till Iconomi platform launches this December... Wink


can't wait..
Smiley
Actually OFM launch next year is much more important.
900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 13, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
Polo has so many shit coins, why you want ICN on it?

Why I want ICN on it? The question is why not? What bad thing could happen if ICN would be listed there? These are the questions ... not you try and find a decent answer Wink

Easy answer - ICN will be another coin to play with for the big whales just like any other shitcoin there.
Price won't represent the REAL value of Iconomi, but some close-group heavy traders short price manipulations.
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