I see quite some people write the same thing. This means that maybe the price even won't go down much. It's a wise solution for those who think of btc as a long-term investment. For me, however, bitcoin is the source of income. I never have more that 0.2 or so in my wallet, because I earn btc, sell it for fiat and use to pay for rent. I am intending to do the same thing before the 1st of August.

I think btc crashing and prices going down are different things sometimes. Of course, if btc crashes the prices will inevitably go down. However, they can also go down in other cases like robberies of some big markets or people getting nervous that btc may crash and selling everything because of it. Now bitcoin is nearly $2800 which is totally fine. We can't prevent panic selling in general but we can keep calm ourselves and contribute something into anti-selling this way. As for the crash, the miners have to support the implementation as much as possible and this will help btc to stay the king.

When people first find out what is cryptocurrency, they meet bitcoin. They buy some, then sell. They use btc to get along with cryptocurrencies. That's why btc is so unstable. It is true that there is no crypto that can be as stable as fiat, for they are decentralized. Yet there are currencies which are more stable. These are mostly currencies that are constantly worthless, but there are good ones as well. They are not a lot more stable than btc though. I mean litecoin and doge. Perhaps we can add ripple here as well. Over the last 2 months the price didn't jump that much.

It is fair indeed and as lots of scams are out there on the market, vdice is a great option. Perhaps people have to pay a lot for this secure way of playing... Nevertheless, as a minimum bet is currently worth around $50, I think there have to be made some changes. If it was reduced I believe a lot more people would gamble out there. Otherwise people are likely to choose a cheaper and less secure play instead. What is your opinion on this matter. And what is the opinion of the owner? Is it actually more profitable for a site to work with such sums? 

I am for cryptocurrencies in general and a year ago I thought that this is where the world is moving, this is how things will get done in the future. I think we all remember discussions about times when one could buy a cup of coffee or some goods in the supermarket and pay via bitcoin. Now nobody says such things because it is obviously impossible. Perhaps the currency which has chances to become new fiat is dogecoin, because it is cheap, safe and fast. But even a good currency can't become a part of everyday life yet. As the main point of currencies is decentralization, owners of online wallets, trade websites and markets are unknown. This leads the to temptation to steal of the money and disappear. Sometimes they get caught but mostly they aren't. I think that cryptos can replace fiat only by losing anonymity at least in important cases like with website owners. And they have to be regulated by laws so that owners of markets where people lost money really take full responsibility for that.

Yes, I agree on that matter. Bitcoin will be in danger but ethereum is a different and independent platform, so I think it will live its own life. If btc succeeds, eth will just go on the way it does now. If btc gets hurt (hard fork situation) then ethereum will grow in price, because people will sell their btc to buy second best thing which is ethereum. But then again, who knows, maybe people will make the failure of btc the end of cryptocurrencies.

You've mentioned hacks.. I guess this is what I hate most of all in all this coins-related stuff. If fiat is stolen, people usually have something from which they can start digging in and they finally solve the case. With currencies it is all based on trust and often people use this trust to get rich. They already are rich, because they hold huge websites with lots of money from which they get some stake. Greed doesn't let them stop there and they make people who are not so rich at all lose their money. That's what I regret most.

Unfortunately, I guess there are more and more of such cases. I read their official letter to users. I think they are not really planning to reimburse the money. At least, definitely not all of it. This is the second time a lot of eth gets stolen. The first was with ethereum-wallet.net and in that case we got 40% of money and that's it. People suspect the owners there as well. I am starting to hate this coin.

I think what these guys are doing is wrong and dangerous. They invest in a coin to make the price grow, then wait for others to buy this coin and sell everything, right? They make people lose their money. They can make you lose yours as well if you are with them. Beware of such things. Market should be more or less fair IMO.

Naah, I think spoetnik has ideological basis to be against ethereum. It's his views that don't let see the facts. This guy, on the other hand, just panicked along with others. It is hard not to do that. When I see a dump starting and I know it's just because of panic, I prefer not to look at the prices till it is over.

I think you are wrong in some ways, I think. Coins in red thing being over would mean that the market would be growing again. For that btc has to get Segwit successfully implemented. If btc goes Gard fork, however, this would mean that interests are split and so some people aim to pay for one thing and others for another which will result in huge price drop

I have only bitcoin and two cryptos. Both are successful. Bought eth for 16 dollars (but got 60% stolen) and ktccktkcyckt for 20, when there was a drop of price. I wanted to buy doge recently but found out only this crazy website where it was worth 0.1$ whereas its real price was 0.01 at that time

I don't think this sounds realistic. People would rather care about food or diamonds. Moreover, I think cryptocurrencies may in fact cause the world crisis. Why? Because people invest in currencies and sell them, thus earning money. They mostly don't use them. And this means that they are not worth these big sums people get when they sell them.

Well, people are worried because of Segwit and I think this can cause damage to btc price by itself. And what of btc doesn't succeed in implementation? What if a lot of miners don't support the change and as a result we have 2 currencies? In such a case price will go lower than $1k for sure

As far as I see from the replies in this thread, it is not people from this forum that mainly sell a lot of money and cause these problems on the market. I guess those are people who used to invest using fiat and invested in some papers like on Wall street. They don't understand that currencies are not the same as papers and that it is actually them who mainly make the market go up or down. But then again, it wouldn't be possible to earn money investing into things if there weren't big price jumps out here.

Perhaps you are right, I didn't notice that. Well, I don't panic along with all these currencies going so down. I suppose it's all right for that to happen from time to time. Maybe this will clean up the market, destroy worthless currencies and leave only those people aim to use in their life or at least those in which they're ready to invest.
Now might be the time to buy ethereum, because it hasn't been so low for quite a long time.

I am not sure bitcoin will manage to overcome such a thing as a hard fork. Especially if both versions will have many miners on their side. That would mean there btc would be at least two times less powerful and that will make eth better if of course it does not lead to the death of cryptoworld because of major panic and thus result in economic crisis.

Yes, right, I forgot.. It is based on smart contracts, isn't it? I did wonder before whether it is possible to abort or change such a contract. How does it work? Say, if it was set for one year, is it possible within the year to change it? Or the possibility of change has to be included in the contract in advance?
You are talking about a new contract here. Is it possible to make a new contract that will contradict the previous one and start processing instead? Or maybe the new contract can be made only when the previous one has come to an end?

I use MEW now, that's where I got my reimbursement sent but before I just bought some eth for $16 and kept them in ethereum-wallet.net, so yeah, I lost 60% which is sad. From that time I don't feel like investing in eth even though it might be profitable.
I don't know whether it is a scam or the site really was hacked... Administrator used to write from time to time about the development of some system to return money but I guess he hasn't written for a while and this is a bad sign. If only there was a chance to make him pay us that money..

Yeah, I wanted to write about this list.
It is quite surprising that the age doesn't matter a lot. Litecoin, doge and maybe ripple still mean something, whereas the 3 others don't. And ethereum was released later and yet it doesn't make the coin worse. I think that age matters in certain aspects. For instance, a brand new coin has to exist for about a year to prove that it is okay. But I don't think that it is important whether a coin is 2 or 4 years old.