I am not sure whether i will be thrilled about the bonuses on a casino but what i know is whales would take any opportunity the casino gives to have the better edge when they are gambling and i am small fish in the pond and i do not bother about these bonuses.
the good days of casino bonuses are over. there was once a time when the casinos gave away so many coins and did lots of promotions to "get the word out" and get more people to come and try their services and they are good promotions. these days all the bonuses and promotions are designed in a way to "trap users" instead. Yeah in the past bonuses were made to keep the user active in the gambling activities as well to gain good reputation to the gambling websites. Now bonuses provided by few gambling websites perfectly a trap the users and profit out of it. This needs to change as well the bonuses should make the user happy to play more. Well as you've said, those days are well past us now. Its all about profit for casino owners and i agree with you, though there may be some casinos that provide bonuses for the sake of the players and not themselves, most are only thinking for themselves. I personally use these bonuses to play a game of dice or slot and really i don't get anything from it Bunoses are made by them so that people could try to play at their site and surely we cannot withdraw it since as you said their are so many condition that impossible for us to reach so we can withdraw their given bunos to us and its not appealing to me thats why i doesn't care on those since i cannot get any benifits from that. Its a strategy on most gambling/casino sites online on where they announce good high rates of bonuses specially on deposits which would really lure you to deposit because of the bonus and one thing comes to your mind when you are encountering for the first time that you can directly withdraw it but you will realize later about the rollover requirement of those additional bonuses and you will tell to yourself that you fall on a trap. |
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Copying concept from a reputable gambling site does really give a bad impact already the credibility on your site and just like other said here its already a red flag to the community and can't be trusted.1 BTC giveaway is decent to lure out fools but I think no one would fall for this.
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does bitminer really pay because when i see payouts nearly 50 ppl are payed everyday
I'm sure that's are fake payments. They make transfers to their own addresses, then mix them and send them one more time. They just loop it and give it as a payout. Try to track them, and you will see that they are going to nowhere! Check just few posts from this thread and you will have answer if they are ligit. Other site actually do that and i will not be surpised if bitminer will fake theirs stats to. We should be aware for that one since surely that payouts are just displayed by them so that they can lure people and scammed them when he right time for them comes so its very better if we just not stick to them since we cannot surely earn some money for that kind of scheme. If you are careless enough you will surely fall to the trap of scammers and its not new anymore on people or site make use of fake transactions or payouts to their own account and if you are a wise person which would seek and investigate you will find out and see it on your own eyes on how they are connected to each other which means this indicates they are purely scam. |
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I think its8really risky...
I understand that people do it but... i don't know if giving your coins to a casino is really a great idea.
They can leave anytime with your money and you cant9do much :/
Bitcoin casinos investing is possible today but extremely risky, the best way to invest passively in gambling casinos is by investing in the sites bankroll, some bitcoin gambling sites have house edge, meaning the long run, if you run them correctly they should all be profitable, however in the short run gambling site can take a hit and have to pay for gamblers and this where bankroll comes. Well that is the main idea of investing in the casino itself, you do not create one or invest in the creation of one. You invest in the already made casino and you put your money against all the gamblers of the casino. House edge is simply that, an edge over the gamblers. It is nice for the investors and the casinos, though if it is too high then no one will gamble at that casino. There must be some sort of balance there. Investing on house edge is not risky if you choose right site to invest. And here must put your money on well-reputed site and old sites. We have many sites like this to invest. But sometimes our bad luck we will get loss in this investment. It's common in any business. Take a risk and make money. Without taking the risk, we can not do anything. Some times risking is like a suicide so better before we risk we should know that the gambling site we invested on is trusted,legit and properly giving the dividends to their investor so that we can assure to gain some profits on said kind of investment. And also it is advisable to not put all what weve got on one site only so that we can have a choices to earn if one of our investment fall down. It sounds exaggerated call risking something as a suicide , isn't it? Of course you have to know very well before making any decision to invest on some casino. You have to spread to several place , so you can monitoring the profit progress between the casinos and make a judgment on that comparison. When we are talking about suicide then we are talking about on risking all the money you had because you already mentioned about suicide but if we are talking on decent amount of money to make investment its not really relevant to say such thing. Diversifying your money is always a good way to make comparison on your investment. |
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2 comments for this site:
1. Site has too many ads which doesn't like by most potential visitors/gamblers because this is quiet irritating and could make the site load even slower.
2. This kind of game have been out on previous year or months but none of them seems successful at all because it cant get much interest from the public.
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Can you explain how provably fair works in your game?  I would also like to know this because my main concern is that I could post a bunch of games, then the house could beat me in all of them if it knows what I'm going to throw. I guess provably fair would indicate that there is no way for the house to know what I am throwing? House wont beat you because you are directly playing or competing with other player which means house is no involve but expected on this is when you withdraw they will certain get a percentage on the amount you would withdraw from that game.This game is somehow similar on Bitdouble game which is coin flip that also makes duel from other players but only on two options unlike on this game which you have 3 selections. |
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There's already been a few threads on this, but it seems worth warning people again. Cloudbet is refusing to allow me to withdraw my funds. I've been trying for 5 days now, had multiple support tickets closed without response. I've included their latest response below. Note that they are citing two "rules" that are nowhere documented on their site.
1. You have to make a wager (I did)
2. You have to withdraw to the same bitcoin address (I no longer have access to that wallet)
Fortunately, my case is "only" .15 BTC so not that big of a loss if I can't get it. Either way, I won't ever be using their site again -- good luck to you if you do.
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Adrian (Cloudbet)
Mar 21, 12:08 UTC
Hi,
Thank you for contacting us.
We notice that you have deposited and are now submitting for a withdrawal without having made any wagers. Can I ask that you explain your reasons for doing this?
If you wish to withdraw without making use of Cloudbet's services, you will need to withdraw to the same wallet address that you made your deposit from. Once this is done, please contact support again and we will check the destination address.
Best regards,
Adrian
Cloudbet Support Team
Why is the support ask if why didn't wager if you already wager. I think support of cloudbet is not that dumb to ask you a question without basis. I see many scam accusation on cloudbet it all comes from newbie without proper proof. But of you are telling the truth, cloudbet don't have the rights yoir withdrawal of you really don't do anything against the rules because AFAIK, there is no rule on cloudbet that needs a wager before to withdraw. Unless that money is a bonus This is true,cloudbet would not be dumb enough to ask this thing if there's no basis and in fact on what you have said that most people complaining are newbies without any strong proofs. If he refuse withdrawal even you did the things required but sadly the btc account you used have fastly lost it?how?if you used it to deposit then asking for withdraw I guess it's not too long time. |
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Yeah, it's the timing and spacing of gambling are things that should be taken into account. But if indeed they could not make a plan and execute it well with the perfect, then the behavior of the "stop at the right time" was only a dream. Because no one can stop at the right time when indeed they do not have a strong commitment. Let someone who has the establishment of strong and can adapt in something quickly, because it will determine the profit for us
Everyone know how to stop, they just choose not to. People keep trying too hard to win higher amount day by day and they forget what they are really looking for. They are looking for profit and even $1 count as a profit however most people will choose to keep on going , in the end they are going to lose everything yeah the problem people will never feel enough on earn money , so no matter you have managed zero to hundreds dollar if you decide to continue play , then it could be back to zer even worse , you just need to be patient . Human nature is always a greedy one without satisfaction. So people even on continued winning won't give a break, just goes on expecting more and more. This at times leads to entire losing and standing zero in the wallet. Regret comes in last, you will not win in the long run if you are greedy enough, we can win but we cannot beat the house as they have unlimited money and they have all the advantage. Thinking to win is a positive attitude but without considering the risk is a stupid decision. Every gambler knows about this fact, but most of the gamblers are failed to stop gambling on the right time. Whether while winning time or losing time they can't control themselves until they lose everything they have in bankroll. The best way to avoid more losses is always gambled with the limited amount so that no need to regret so much even though you lose your bankroll. Losing control into ones self would really be a big factor specially on playing gambling because you will surely lose up money on the end on playing gambling if you let your emotion controls you that's why we should be aware on whats happening on our bankroll and betting styles. |
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Just saw some big whales on BitDouble.io who bet big there, which they come and bet everyday. Imagine if they are your referrals, isn't that great? By sharing your referral to your friends, maybe one of them who join under your referral will be another big whale and gives you good amount of money.
Yes, there are whales who are playing on Bitdouble and as you said making them as referrals would really generate you some money without doing nothing and imagine on getting even 5 of them which do play on daily basis with big amounts wager then it would be a good source of coins for you. Don't forget to share up your referral links on Bitdouble.io site and might get some whales which you didn't expect.  |
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Op it's very difficult to find a question answer which won't be equal as each one will have a different answer. For me betting is fun and I enjoy it. I treat Bitcoin gambling as an additional source of betting. This helps me to save my Fiat money which I would have gambled away. Plus with Bitcoin gambling I find it easier to gamble on various sites that I was not able to do before due to lot of restrictions. I see there is no reason to feel that bitcoin is bad or should even be considered bad. People should Indulge in healthy betting.
You can really expect different answers since people do have different minds and have different opinions on this matter but reading on your comment seems like statement of yours are contradicting and confusing. Gambling as an additional source of betting? What? Helps to save Fiat money? You serious? You play gambling and saving money isn't possible instead you are spending your money on playing it. |
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RogerCoin heard it from Adam Meister and like it how you will call it Well this will be the close name and appropriate for calling his coin. And this is also a good I could better suggest vercoin, which seems better than rogercoin. These guys have made the best profit out of bitcoin , now what they need is to have an identity. So everyone focus to gat a celebration based on their own entities which won't survive long.
Well that is greediness, it's the reason why they want to make his own coin. Too bad I can't see that their coin isn't going to survive for a longer time just like what btc did. Greediness indeed and no matter how many bitcoin he do posses its better to stick to it and shouldn't plan to make his own coin called "RogerCoin" lol. We don't know on what in his mind but this coin will surely dump to the bottom after a price increase hype then suddenly die after. He is now against the bitcoin core which he came from, well surely that the concept of keeping your dogs humble so that it won't bite you when it grow old. This is what is happening now, upgrading the core which is a better concept rather than making his own and competing with the original one and dividing the people's thought on it. Agree on what you have said and these scenario does really happen even on daily living not only on this cryptoworld.If its his own decision then its up to him it might get some attention in the community but for sure hype will eventually go down and go back to its origin and im really expecting on that. |
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RogerCoin heard it from Adam Meister and like it how you will call it Well this will be the close name and appropriate for calling his coin. And this is also a good I could better suggest vercoin, which seems better than rogercoin. These guys have made the best profit out of bitcoin , now what they need is to have an identity. So everyone focus to gat a celebration based on their own entities which won't survive long.
Well that is greediness, it's the reason why they want to make his own coin. Too bad I can't see that their coin isn't going to survive for a longer time just like what btc did. Greediness indeed and no matter how many bitcoin he do posses its better to stick to it and shouldn't plan to make his own coin called "RogerCoin" lol. We don't know on what in his mind but this coin will surely dump to the bottom after a price increase hype then suddenly die after. |
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what a win !!! JIocb did max bet on black and win bet 1000mbtc  What a nice catch you have there mate. 500mbtc on black and he hit the black which give him 1 btc. This is one of the biggest winnings on a single bet ive witnessed on the site. |
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Losing 10 times in a row at 67 % winning chance seems somehow impossible. 0.002 % chance to hit that, and that is no must, seems legit. to hit that, if it is somehow good for the bank ever and ever again is suspicious. and those losses stumblin around 10 and 30 seem planned.
Another newbie without any proofs talking if he get scammed because losing 10 times in a row at 67% win chance? To be honest i never had that losing streaks, the longest i've had only 7-8 streaks loses at 70% but anything can happen in gambling. 0.002% chance to hit it still possible, because you could win at 0.001% win chance too when you gamble. Just like you said! I've been winning 2 or 3 times in a row at 0.001% but I've never complained and i'm sure that no one will ever complain when they are winning! only when they lose! So does winning/losing determines fairness of a dice casino? For the OP it seems like it is! I personally don't really care as I'm not gambling to make a living. I gamble for fun, and yes I do hope every time I will hit the jackpot! But this is only a dream that lasts while I gamble! Didn't made a way of life out of this. Yes,probably op didn't expect that he suffer 10 losing streak which he believed its not possible on 67% chance and now hes claiming or accusing bitsler a possible scam.? Seriously? If you are a newbie on dice game you will surely say this thing and yet you didn't still experience 11x-15x straight even more. You will surely be amazed on how dice works. |
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I understand that you put these bonuses up to attact the customer thats fine but you make it damn near impossible to get the whole bonus out, it they were to release .01btc bonus per $1000 bets thats reasonable to what i experienced of .001 btc released per $1000 bet no point in even offering it at that point but ya i agree read the fine print im sure some sites are better than ones ive experienced when it comes to bonuses.
You are right. Most of the bonuses actually will reduce your chance to win. They make it attractive to confuse people with marketing and things. Some sites do have worth while ones but most just stretch your playing time and are often the same as the free giveaways just in higher amounts. Still... If you have good luck and a high bonus multipler on the deposit then you must reach the wage limit and of you do it means you have plays a lot and most likely will have won a lot since you forced to play that long. So its go big or go home with those promotions. Bonuses is keeps the gambler stays and attract more gamblers, it gives us good experience in gambling and gambler do prefer to stay in a gambling sites with a lot of bonuses as that means they are valued as a customer. Although this days I never won bonuses but still the chance that they are giving is already very appealing to us, we play to be the one who will win the bonuses and that give additional thrill as a gambler. of course , there is no goal for a casino owner except to get more player to come . with exaggerated bonuses promotion , it is really help the business to grow . not often people who can make the rollover requirement cleared. that is the challenge , take it or get nothing , i just don't want to collect a bonus that have something like rollover, too excited for me  , i could spend a lot of money to chase this. You are right and this is just a common strategy for gambling site owners and as you said this thing are just luring out potential players on the site which they are blinded by high amount of bonuses/deposit bonus but when they deposit they just realized they would need to rollover it to withdraw which they learn a lesson after that time which it happens to me also that's why I don't really care at all on the bonuses as of now no matter how good it is. |
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I will play gambling if I do have money to spent on but if I don't have then I wont play at all. Planned gambling doesn't happen on me because I would depend on the money I have left since I have lots of important thing to prioritize and should use my money on those and if I do have extra money then that's the time Ill play gambling.
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When did you start gambling online (and offline if you do not mind sharing)? Is it because of the awesome Games and Rounds forum at Bitcointalk?
Do you only start gambling after you use Bitcoin (or any other cryptocurrency) because you feel that you cannot be tracked?
I have tried card games on real life which I do sometimes join those people who do play those games but I don't often play and just tried it but never try to gamble online because I don't know how to put up money or deposit since they always require card which I don't have that's why I cant play and when I discover this forum I saw there are lots of gambling sites that do accept bitcoin to play which is really great and been try different games as of now. |
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The worst moment of a person who gambles is when you lose you have especially your love ones. It's not the money or material things you have but it's those who loves you or understands you before that have decided to left you.
That is the moment where we just realize that gambling never did good anything to us. We don't matter how much we lose and who do we hurt. Our only desire is to gamble and earn money from it. In that moment we don't realize the consequences it can do if we continue that habit in the long run. I do consider it that this thing would be the most painful result on playing too much gambling which we would lose our loved ones in our life and as you said its okay to lose up money or things but losing the people you love means a lot to me.Therefore you will surely realized that how gambling does really affect you and you will surely regret it and that's why I don't play gambling too much because of the risk of addiction.Worst experience on gambling when I do lose money which is common among players. |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this... I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos. i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games. I'm bit worried to play on new site since they doesnt got any reputation to hold our money or running a gambling site and im very vigilant on these since there are many scam site who pretend to be good while in reality they are just a scam and running a site without a proper fairness beneath on them. Thats why i mostly go also to those big sites who already tested by majority so that i would not cry later on and file some scam accusation on those scamtards people. Most of the case we should really always seek for the most reputable ones compared to those newly launched gambling sites because the risk of being scammed is there that's why its really ideal to make some investigations like checking community feedbacks regarding on sites fairness,supports and other important thing should be considered on a good gambling site. |
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If you are not willing to pay for a training, there is free content on the internet, and many traders give tips on youtube. But be aware of the risks... I realized that many experienced traders consider binary options a very risky thing, and prefer forex instead.
Actually it's a gamble and do have higher risk than the normal gambling game and trading platform. But I like the idea of watching youtube videos, when I wanted to start with something I don't know. I always visit youtube and as well as google. That is the best way to start with it and also reading tips from binary option experts is a good addition. Google is truly helpful but sometimes google tactics will not actually occur nor effective when we apply it on our trading/betting times and also i think the best way to learn easily is to find experience individual that can teach us on how to trade nor deal on binary tradings and so that i think you can learn easily from them, but first for start up we should used some spare money that we can afford to lose so that we will not be fall if we are been beaten by our bad decision. i think learning about trading bitcoin is not a difficult job, one can learn about bitcoin trading from internet, but i think the most important and difficult job is to get experience in trading and that can only be possible through trading. It's really difficult job because the bitcoin market movement is really fast comparing with the altcoin. if you're not usually use them in your trade and you will be lost a lot caused by the market movements. Comparing the movement of bitcoin market and alts we could really say bitcoin does move even on smaller scales but speaking up on price spikes and volatility alts are on edge but no matter on which market you would do binary trades risk is always there and I do try to do binary options not on bitcoin but on forex currency pairs and I could say its very risky if you don't know how to trade. |
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