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8901  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: August 26, 2016, 02:24:23 PM
i will accept my salary in bitcoin, in fact now im join signature campaign and i get salary each week in bitcoin.
i think accept salary in bitcoin is best idea to hide from tax.

Unless you're from a third world country and the signature campaign payout levels with your weekly or monthly wage, you can somewhat make that comparison. But when you're not, then the only way to look at signature campaign payouts is to see it as a bonus. And nothing more.



You have a point, signature campaigns earning would be decent enough to compare the salary rate in 3rd world countries which is very useful because you won't do hardwork already because you are already earning decent in Bitcoin and it really depends on what country do you live but still remember the risk on Bitcoin because it's not stable as of now to fully rely on.










Even if you are from third world country I don't thin that only earnings from signature campaign would be sufficient for living, as payouts are too low and it can take care only of your basic expenses.

I knew some people here who made a living  with just the earnings on signature campaigns which is really incredible because  as i can see the amount of joining signature campaigns  is just enough as a pocket money for your self but some  already made a living with it especially who live  in 3rd world countries which i mention earlier.
8902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 26, 2016, 02:17:59 PM
Gambling means fast and easy profit, but with huge risk. So i wouldn't recommend you to gamble with huge amount, better invvst that money somewhere ,like in gambling site, so you will get safer profit
I believe investing also has risks because of the fact so many guys are making gambling sites to scam others only. They wait till the investment from people grow big and then scam. I do not like either gambling  nor investment because I think both have risks gambling obvious risks and investment has some hidden risks.

If you decide to invest on gambling site then you can also search for  those reputable gambling  sites that already operating  for how many years for sure  they wont scam people, well i cant say that they wont reallt become scam but  as you can see their statistics maybe they would last for a long time  and  you could take the advantage of it.
8903  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: How Can I Earn Bitcoins? on: August 26, 2016, 02:11:03 PM
i want also bitcoin Grin
but many way to get BTC , and it cant fast ..
slowly but sure , Im played at Freebitco.in and Freedogeco.in
safety faucet  Wink

I agree that Freebitco.in and Freedogeco.in is trust faucet until now, but you must wait about one hour to claim free bitcoin, I think this is waste time, for fast to get free Bitcoin from faucet, try faucetbox.com. More than 100 trust sites and of inevitably pay because collect in official sites.

Stay away from faucets its just a really waste of time and doesnt worth for your time and effort you made and you only small amount of satoshi, im not really discouraging you but its the reality on faucets, its much better to participate on signature campaigns  rather than faucet and its better because earning are decent enough and worth for your time.
8904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: August 26, 2016, 02:08:27 PM
They said gambling is fun but for me gambling is the worst thing i never forget in my life because in real life i have been addicted on it. My saving is lost almost my things lost because in gabling but now i decided to stop for my family to make a good relationship to them its hard but i can do it.

I think gambling is fun because we are excited for result of the match ( in case of sports betting ) and hence we are very much excited while we also feel that we know how the match will end so I personally love sports betting the most.

Gambling just like a game, we do enjoy the winning moreover to get some profits. It's so excited waiting the result for some kind of gambling like sports betting that we have predictions about it after do some research and and analyze. But, whenever you get addicted to it, that's how problem comes just like loss much money and ruin your life, don't think to makes living there, it just for fun.


Gambling is  really a game not only "just". lol . We do enjoy playing when we are winning  but  if we suffer loss then its not fun anymore. Regarding sports betting it does really have the chills or excitement  because you dont know what would be the results on a certain game unlike other gambling games that show results in a blink of an eye doesnt  any give thrills but only sorrow if you lose big amounts  like on playing dice.
8905  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? on: August 26, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
Better buy bitcoin while the price is lower. Maybe you will never its price like this. Borrowing bitcoin is better when the interest is low. Check or visit the lending section. Check if the interest are low. Ofcourse you need something to stake. I suggest do not borrow, better earn some money and buy bitcoins. If you are too needy then you have no choice but to borrow.
although the interest is low but maybe that is will become burdens for your self you can't think with freedom in your minds and always thinking about the date of pay off and paying the interest. you will never feel comfortable with using borrowed way.

Businessman very closely with freedom in every case and it is indeed a very heavy burden to give something if business people. If you want to get something big and the maximum is indeed we should avoid loans. Because in the loan we have to pay the loan principal and interest is huge

yes as much as possible we should avoid loans, especially if you borrow from a bank or money lenders who have high interest rates.


That's my personally reason for avoiding the loans from everyone because I think the interest is always high, and you don't predict what will happen in the future, whether you will pay back you loans or nothing. just take a decision with low risk in the future.

Interest rates are the thing are holding me to borrow  or having a loan to someone because you might not able to pay if they  pile up big interest on your loaned amount.  Like as other said you wont know what would happen tommorow  it might be good  or bad and it may affect   that you may not pay those loans and  they continue to grow overtime which is a really bad situation.
8906  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 26, 2016, 02:01:32 PM
I think I won't do that, I don't even have a job now because I'm still a student. But I think if in the future, I do have job I still won't do this, except if my job is a Bitcoin related job.

can you sharehow much bitcoin your earning during 6month ? higher than realjob or not ? im very interesting to know more, because i have plab to go full time on bitcoin too.

What do you mean? I never even do any "real" job in my life. And especially since I am a student so I don't have time to earn Bitcoin all day.
So I can probably earn $408 in 6 months.

No need to go full time in bitcoin specially if you are a fresh graduate, it's good to practice your profession first, but if time comes that it seems like you are not comfortable with you profession, you could  try doing it part time and part time on bitcoin too or incorporate the two, fiat and bitcoin, accept both in all your services..

Yeah bitcoin can be earned in part time and I don't see there is any need of getting full time into it as full time job gives stable income and bitcoin is really good as an passive income.

exactly, having a steady job would be better rather than you go fulltime on bitcoin but you could still join those two   as source of income  as long  you do proper time management and   for sure  it would be a good thing  because you are both earning in bitcoin and in fiat.
8907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 26, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
Actually i never saw a man, who has rich from Gambling?
I m not playing gambling because i saw a lot of people who has lost everything in gambling.
So i want to ask if anyone is here how has rich from GAMBLING ??
First Of All Gambling Is Not A Way to Become Rich, The Only Way to Become Rich is Our Master Mind and Money If We Use Them Wisely.....
And Gambling Is always Depends Upon your Luck And  I Also Never Seen a Single Person Who Becomes Rich By Gambling.....

You know many peoples play gambling only for earn money in a hurry time, also you and me whenever play gambling so only for money. Instead we are saying gambling is a fun and enjoyment but main thing is that less time and earn a lot of money.
But your second point is absolutely right.   
The fact is we cannot dictate people to stop in gambling as that is their decision, regardless of their method that is for them and they are not kids anymore that we need to teach on what to do, once you enter into gambling you are already a matured person and you know your chances so it is fine to think that you can be rich in gambling as long as you know how to accept when you cannot achieve that.

You have a point and maybe some of the gamblers have have same aim in playing gambling which is to become rich with it. You are right we can't stop anybody on their decision on life because he's already aware on that certain thing when he decide to enter at hes also aware on the circumstances.
The reality is more gamblers are poor so aiming money is the goal for them. Gambling sites are earning money from the loses of the poor people as they are the type of gamblers who rely on luck in gambling and since luck cannot beat the advantage in the long run they lose.

Gambling is an industry and also an investment for  the  website owners for sure they would like to profit rather than bankruptcy  thats why they build this business , they for sure  to  make an advantage  on their players . Most of the websites claimed that they are provably fair  but i still have  suspicion that they have the advantage always thats why most of the player lose  on the long run.
8908  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: August 26, 2016, 01:52:23 PM
Fiat will stay exactly the same, no matter what the price of Bitcoin is. Nothing can change fiat beside the governments themself. The only chance for Bitcoin to make fiat less usable/interesting, is when people world wide start to use Bitcoin more than their fiat currency.

Thats not possible though because  even how many people who used bitcoin but still they are exchanging it to fiat and  bitcoin could not  make paper currency disappear since  they only rely to the value of fiat   equally to their   value in the market which is really impossible to happen that bitcoin could make fiat  money useless.
8909  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE NEWBIES CONSIDERED AS FOOLS? on: August 26, 2016, 01:49:56 PM
I think not. There are also smart newbies.

What means smart newbies? In my opinion smart newbies just read and learn. This all thread is against "Newbies" that playing with experienced users just to troll, cheat, or just do pist offsomeone.

In real talk there are newbie rank or new accounts made by another veteran member which used just to troll someone in the forum or just used for arguing wit someone. They would create new account instead on using their mai account to hide their identities and avoiding negative trust. Well just saying real talk here.

Why it's allowed to sell high rank accounts in this forum? I noticed that a lot of people selling accounts with ranks. According to this scammer can buy high rank account and beginners "maybe" will trust him and get scammed? To be honest in a lot of forums it's against rules to sell accounts, but on this one - it's allowed.


Its not really allowed in what we usually think but this forum does not  prohibit to sell account to others but im not really fan of  these kinds of transaction because  account would be  used on bad purposes same as you said. Forum does not have rules that  selling accounts is illegal  for sure they would really like to impose these rules  but  i think they have  a hard time  on stopping  this transactions.
8910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: August 26, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
Stealing is punishable by law and in some countries they even cut your arm for doing such thing. So stealing bitcoin is the same as you take someone else money without their permission. In the best case if you get caught you will end up in jail. Of course I don't know yet a single person from the hackers of bitcoin exchanges who have been caught so chances of you getting caught are really slim. But yes its illegal and you should stay away from it and be a good person with good behavior in general.

I don't think that you get OP's point... He said that he didn't mean to get those coins and it just so happen that when he generate an address it already have an amount stored in there and owned by someone else which OP also said that he is aware that it is very rare to happen... Though it was not his property, I think it is not stealing since he didn't do anything to get it except for generating an address.

He might not read the  Ops queries first and   he replied directly  Grin . Well ,  op generated an address which is already owned by someone thats why he ask  if bitcoin sealing is illegal, for sure  he would intend or try to get those bitcoin  because   he already have an access to it therefore if  he got those bitcoin then its stealing  and  its a crime.
8911  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn bitcoin by sig campaign? on: August 26, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
When you will be ranked to member or at least Junior member, you can try to enrol into sigmature campaign that you like, and then they might accept you

Now a days the most important thing for getting accepted in a campaign is the post quality... you might have a sr. member account but if your post quality is poor then it would be hard for you to get accepted in a good campaign.

Correct, Even if you have  high rank account   with  poor post quality  then it would be still useless since you cant easily join signature campaigns because sig camp managers are strict to select to their participants especially on quality of post because they dont want to accept those spammer because  it would only  bring  trouble  or stain  to a signature campaigns.
8912  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do I make money with $100 USD BTC on: August 26, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
For fast way I recommed for you to try to trade $100 USD buy bitcoins for now and set it to high price and wait to someone to buy your price for you Bitcoins.. This is the safe I think buy cheap and sell high.. dont buy Altcoin because most of them are not stable, and make you money loss in just some hours.

I also like me you,buy bitcoin at low prices and sell at high prices or must double, but have to wait long to be sold at high prices
if it is very profitable to buy ALT coin,because ALTcoin is pretty much on the market,You can buy coins that are crowded or more people are buying
so loss if you just trade bitcoin not try altcoin

trading with btc/usd would  be  really time consuming if  you have a small investment , you would feel your profit  if you have  huge  capital especially on short tradings iin btc/usd pair. Altcoin would be still profitable if you are smart enough  on  choosing the right coins  that would surely pump up and developed in the long run because there are lots of alts now  just  pump and dump forever.
8913  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: August 26, 2016, 12:33:10 PM
People lose more money every year stored in their bank accounts and atms as compared to Bitcoins, the only bitcoins that get stolen are because of either carelessness in handing private keys or investing in scams.

i think no people lost his money in bank, it's just lower interest if we compared with bitcoin interest (rising price).
but i think not all people who stored his money at bitcoin get interest, growing his money, some people who buying bitcoin in $700 and hold it, now lose arround 20% of his money.
yeah but things can be changed in future. even I am pretty much sure things will get changed in future 100%..
bitcoin price dropped little bit but it will raise again and everyone who invested when the price was 700$ they will also get profit. this is the game of patience. anyone one who have strongest well power well be in more benefit..

and banks won't give this amazing feature, but there is no chance that bitcoin can disappear banks. banks will remain.

Yeah bank is going to remain because the people really needs bank for the security of their money. And mostly, people who have millions of bucks are going to lend their money to the bank for the bank is able to use that money for investment and the bank is going to do the bank so that your money is going to grow easily.
banks are just  definitely as a storage on our money and it doesnt connected  wit bitcoin and  it wont be possible tha bitcoin could make bank disappear since  they dont really have connection at all. Yes, banks  is  more secure on your fiat money it would  still grow your money there but  it not as big  as you expected  in per annum basis.
8914  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I earn money in this forum? on: August 26, 2016, 12:22:03 PM
Hi everyone. I'm a newbie here. I was just curious how my friend gets income in this forum. I wanted to ask how can I earn money here? thank you Smiley

Signature campaign (probably the best way)
Offer your skills Services

Agree, signature campaigns would be easiest way to earn Bitcoin here in the forum and it's far better than those faucets which is a really waste of time. As other said you could also sell your goods and if you have skill then it's a plus because for sure you would earn decent amounts with that goodluck.
8915  Economy / Economics / Re: Soo, I'm planning on buying €1000 in bitcoins. Yes or no? on: August 26, 2016, 12:14:02 PM
If it is a planned investment, which will not compromise your financial life, I don't see big problem. The important thing is to be aware of the instability in the market, the risks involved and invest considering these factors.
There is no problem as long as you are aware of the possible outcome, you only not focus on the positive outcome and you also need to know the negative outcome so you can weigh things better and you are confident with your decision to invest.

Well, we should know the things and consider on the possible circumstances on the future and as an investor then you should expect the unexpected delima that you would encounter along the way. They are right If the money you would plan to invest does not compromises anything then there's nothing to worry but just remember the risk involved.
8916  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is Bitcoins going to die? on: August 26, 2016, 12:09:10 PM
someone said bitcoin will die in 2035,then I searched in google what really bitcoin will die in 2035,and I also ask users bitcoin What really bitcoin in 2035 will be lost

bitcoin could die anytime,but what if bitcoin really dead,what happened to this forum if bitcoin really dead and worthless
I believe bitcoin will remain there until whenever,and the price of bitcoin getting up


believe bitcoin until doomsday  Grin



maybe you can give link or anything that say bitcoin will die in 2035. i am doubt enough with that. i mean the biggest factor to bitcoin die is the user of bitcoin it self and also the developer of bitcoin. but as far as i know when bitcoin still have a fans (user) bitcoin still not have potential to die.

I also would like a link to support your theory, it is impossible to predict things in the next 19 years, and i think now bitcoin is showing a great development, so if this keep continue i believe bitcoin will last long, but all of that also depend on all of us to support bitcoin

That's right Bitcoins existence would really depends on us people who uses it, because if no one buying Bitcoins or used it then we can really say that Bitcoin would be dead anytime soon. As we can see Bitcoin is becoming popular as the years goes by and there are already lots of investors on it and also being adopted already by some countries. Bitcoin won't easily die in my own view but no one knows what on the future.
8917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 26, 2016, 10:58:54 AM
Gambling is addictive because it gives you a potential chance of earning money without doing anything. All you have to do is to win your bets. It is unlike a job where you have to work hard before getting paid.

In terms of getting money instantly I could really say that in gambling games you could really get cash fast compare on salary on your day job but remember isn't stable at all and you don't win all the way in fact you may even lose than gaining money itself. It's really nice to get money with your hard work. Gambling is addictive because it gives you the chills in playing and the aim of gaining profit was also there.
8918  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 26, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
It's an interesting idea to have internet business and BTC as a daily job.

Yeah, but you need compare your day job with full time on bitcoin. Which one is more worth than that two and you need think about the future if you go full time on bitcoin.

You should think first carefully if you made such final decisions before. You switched and think on the things that could possibly happen on the long run. Well,we can't stop anyone In their decisions as long as he know that his doing right and don't compromise anything on making such decision. Just like on switching to Bitcoin and leaving your day job as an example.
You will not know the result unless you tried, nothing is safe in this world and any venture that promises a good reward involves great risk. So if you know how to manage the risk and you have calculated it and the result is in your favor you should go for it.


Correct, you must try things first so that you would get results and if you think that it has advantage for you then proceed. I agree there's nothing safe in this world, the most important thing is how you handle the risk and sustain your journey in your life.
8919  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: August 26, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
i will accept my salary in bitcoin, in fact now im join signature campaign and i get salary each week in bitcoin.
i think accept salary in bitcoin is best idea to hide from tax.

Unless you're from a third world country and the signature campaign payout levels with your weekly or monthly wage, you can somewhat make that comparison. But when you're not, then the only way to look at signature campaign payouts is to see it as a bonus. And nothing more.



You have a point, signature campaigns earning would be decent enough to compare the salary rate in 3rd world countries which is very useful because you won't do hardwork already because you are already earning decent in Bitcoin and it really depends on what country do you live but still remember the risk on Bitcoin because it's not stable as of now to fully rely on.








8920  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you ever lost Bitcoin? on: August 25, 2016, 01:51:59 PM
I didn't lose any bitcoins, because i am very careful with them, but once i lost altcoins, because i forgot my exchange account log in info so i couldn't log in to it anymore

I don't understand how can people forget their log in details, I mean its such an important and critical factor and people simply forgets it, bitcoin is a money and you cannot afford to be so careless with that.

maybe he has  lots  of account and not able to remember those  accounts he owned or  he just to busy to forget those thing or maybe hes a kind which  could easily forget something easily. There are lots  of things   when people  do forget things but  bitcoin is a money we should not  forget those important things.
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