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8921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 29, 2019, 03:55:54 AM
I'm sorry to hear that. Gambling addiction is a horrible thing to deal with, and takes a tremendous amount of will power to break free from. You've lost a lot of money, but you still have the most important and valuable thing.... Your life and health. Try to find something to replace gambling with. It could be a hobby or a Church group. Stay strong and keep moving forward in your life. Your past doesn't equal your future.

He really needs help from a professional,  if he has a weak motivation and heart he would have lost his mind just thinking all his lost, a professional help will allow him to set up activities and guidelines together with his family on how to overcome those losses it's actually
 a mindset.

If he wants to go to a professional, then I think his problem will be solved, and he can realize that what his doing is not right so he can start to fix his life to be better. But that will depend on him because not all people will realize and want to visit a professional to solve the problem and mostly, people will don't care about that. People will still play gambling without thinking about their life and the family, and that will only make their life will ruin soon or later. He needs to aware of that and tries to stay away from gambling for the first thing that he needs to do now. And he can start to build some activities or think about the other passion that he might have.
8922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you guys started to gambling with cryptos or fiat money? on: August 29, 2019, 01:24:54 AM

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Although cryptocurrency is less than 10 years, it becomes popular now, and we see that many people are trying to use cryptocurrency, and they use it for playing gambling too. In the future, there will be many more people will come to the cryptocurrency because they see the other benefits from cryptocurrency. They don't have to think about the verification process because, in the crypto gambling website, they will found so many gambling websites which don't require verification to join with them.
No arguments about that mate because we can clearly see the improvement and popularity of cryptocurrency gambling all over the forum(and outside the forum as well because many sites now are introducing crypto gambling and even inoculate media’s)
And also what people will like to be in here is the opportunity of passive income even if they don’t feel like betting,because they can invest in gambling as well.thats a lot of things to be here while traditional gambling cannot give

Yes, you are right. With help from the media, crypto gambling will attract in many countries, and that will make people want to try to playing gambling using cryptocurrency. I am sure that they can found a new passion for playing gambling with so many coins available in gambling places.

People will find out that with the cryptocurrency, they can playing gambling and also they can investing in each coin so they can have the opportunity to make a profit. If we talk about investing, I think that will make people want to try too because they will see that investing in cryptocurrency can give them a passive income in the future.
8923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I don't know how to trust a gambling site nowadays! on: August 29, 2019, 12:23:51 AM
I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.

Obviously no one likes KYC, casinos that ask for KYC only do so because they are forced by the law. That's why most crypto casinos are located in countries where they are not prosecuted by the law.

Yes, most gamblers don't like KYC because they have to send their personal identification to the gambling website. They are afraid that the website owner will sell their data to another party which needs those data. We heard that in the black market, the data could be sold with easy and without any regulation or law.

But there is a gambling website which applies KYC for the members because they want to know who is the customer and where the money comes from. The gambling website owner doesn't want to see his gambling website is used for the money laundering.
8924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Are airdrops profitable and worth my time ? on: August 28, 2019, 05:29:17 AM
Always worth of airdrop but depend on which one airdrop you are joining,  I earn much money from airdrop last year but know I miss many airdrop because hard to get good airdrop.

Last year will be different than now because I think the era of airdrops has been ended and it replaces by the other way. But if there are one or two airdrops can reach their success like before, I guess that the other project will come out and they will give the token as an airdrop to repeat their success in the past. But still, it is hard to get money from the airdrops, but if you still want to join in the airdrops program, you can do that but make sure you can choose the right airdrops programs to participate because that will give you a chance to make money or not.
8925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The fuel for the next bull run on: August 28, 2019, 04:29:02 AM
The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

I am not sure about that because we don't have any right information about what the trigger for the next bull run and everything can be possible to happen later. I don't mind to see the cheap coins price will increase so high like what I saw in 2017, but I will gladly if I can see all of my coins can grow higher than now.

The next bull run will not happen for the project based on real-life only because there are many altcoins, especially the old coins that can back to the highest price. And if the bull run comes, I am sure that the cryptocurrency will rise again and will grow because that will attract people to come and join in the cryptocurrency.
8926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I don't know how to trust a gambling site nowadays! on: August 28, 2019, 02:27:47 AM
I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.
8927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the difference between binary option and gambling? on: August 28, 2019, 01:27:38 AM
If one look at binary option trading and gambling holistically you will see that there is no much different between them since you the player is not privilege with some analytical tools to help you in making an inform decision before you participate in any of them.

But in the binary option, I am sure that there will be some analytical tools that can help us to make a profit. Binary option and gambling will be different if we can use the tools in the binary system because we don't depend on the luck itself, but we also know how to analyze the market.

Perhaps, if we don't have any sign in the binary option, then it is called as gambling because we cannot use any tools nor we don't know how to use the tools.

The other differences between the binary option and gambling will be the amount of money we use. In the binary option, we should have some amount to start, but in the gambling, we can use the faucet to start although we cannot bet in big money.
8928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Overall winning - Dice on: August 28, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Have anyone profited out of dice in the short or long term. I have been trying the best and lost all, I can't leave it. Once after I loss I have gone beyond my ability. Finally as the wallet got emptied, I bought bitcoin particularly for betting and lost even the amount earned from my day job. I used to experience win, but at the end it is a loss. I miss the right time to stop and leave. Cry Cry Cry
You’re not a good gambler if you can’t handle your emotion, the moment you lose you should know how to stop or else more money to lose. I also play like this before but I learned a lot from that experience so try to learn from that. You don’t need to earn always, just try to win and make your winnings greater than your capital.

But sometimes, we cannot stop from playing gambling games because we always thought that in the next roll will be our luck, and we can win the money. I guess that is why people continue playing gambling especially dice games because they know it is hard to succeed in the dice games, but they know that they have a chance to win in the next roll. But yes, I agree that if we can earn some money from dice games, it is better to stop and get out from the places so we can save the win money, and we can play for the next days.
8929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In the end, the developer who made the token becomes junk! on: August 27, 2019, 05:38:36 AM
now prize hunters face a harsh reality .. that most projects end in fraud and some of them might make a profit but not big, on the other hand the bounty hunter must also be patient to wait for their tokens to be listed on the exchange or at least have a sale value in the market ...
but seeing the unstable market situation, it is also very risky for new tokens generated from the project. Why?
because it all depends on the project developer !!!
I see that many developers no longer care about their project work map and if the developer cannot run their project correctly, the token will become junk !!!

That is what happens with the project if the teams are not serious about working for their project. They will leave the project and leave the investor, and the bounty hunters will be desperate without coming back to the project again. The developers need to have a clear vision about what will they give to the people if the project can succeed in the future. We see many new projects have this experience, and they cannot continue the project because they think that now is not worth to continue. They need to get out of the cryptocurrency, but they need to come back to the project, work with the project again, make sure their plan can run well. But if not, then the project and the token will become junk.
8930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the benefit of being Satoshi Nakamoto? on: August 27, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
The only benefit of being Satoshi Nakamoto is I will have a huge amount of bitcoin in my wallet, and I can sell it in anytime I want. I can sell my bitcoin, enjoy my time with the money without revealing my identity to the public. I feel better to stay hidden while I can do anything I want with the money because I will be one of the richest people in the worlds. But as the OP said, being Satoshi Nakamoto will attract the government to interrogation him about the blockchain and bitcoin because I am sure that Satoshi Nakamoto still is the biggest mystery to them.
8931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: don't rely on gift tokens, balance your time with other things. on: August 27, 2019, 03:32:18 AM
don't rely on gift tokens because that will only bore you and not to mention you have to wait for them to be listed on the exchange or at least until they have a sale price to make up for your hard work.
I suggest balancing your time with other things you can do in this market and I think there are many ways to make a profit besides a prize campaign. I say this because I also feel bored with them and what I produce from gift tokens does not produce sweet fruit.
at this time I balance with trading, how about you?

I am trying to search the other profit from trading because I see that right now, I have a chance to buy low and sell high. Although I cannot make a huge profit in one or two-time trade, I am sure that if I can do many times trading, I will have a bigger profit from trading. I have my tokens in my wallet, and it's waiting for the token get list on the exchange. But I realize that it will need a long time to see the token will get a list, so I decide not to think about the tokens.

It is better to search for the profit from another way, and don't depend on the token only because we have time to make a profit from trading. So let we try to buy any potential coins at the market, and hopefully, we can make a profit again.
8932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: August 27, 2019, 02:31:28 AM
To take out my family either dinner or lunch and bring the children’s in places they wanna go

Another part will go to my Friends bonding with Beers and Barbeque

The bigger part well of course for my wife as sheas involved in every amount spend in our house

And the last part will be another capital when I play again because I don’t wanna take the money from my work payments or from my personal allowances

Well, that is a good thing that you want to do if you win the games so you can bring the money to your home. Yes, we can celebrate our winning with our family or our friends because they deserve to get what we win. I also will do that if I can win from the games especially if I can win much money from gambling, and I think we have the same thought Grin

We have so many things that will come to our mind when we win but don't playing for another round with the win money because you need to withdraw the money after you win. Remember to share the money with other people around you so they can feel happy too like you.
8933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I don't know how to trust a gambling site nowadays! on: August 27, 2019, 01:28:02 AM
I don't think so. If the gambling site is an old and recommended site, then I don't think that it scam because they are proven to be the good gambling site. But if that site is a new gambling site, then we need to be careful because we don't know if they are good or not. Sometimes, the new gambling website uses a big bonus to attract gamblers but then the member required to deposit some amount before they can get the bonus. We don't want to do that, because the free bonus is a bonus which we can get without having something.

We have so many recommended gambling website which we don't have to do KYC, and that website is not fishy. Perhaps, you need to find by yourself.

As long as you can found recommended gambling website in here, you don't have to worry because the website has already proven to be the good gambling site.
I don’t understand the reason why we all have to write off new sites. I understand that most number of people who have been scammed happened on scam site but don’t you think some of these new sites might be giving out high bonuses as a marketing strategy to getting more players? The reason old trusted sites might not be given this out could be because they already have a high base of players and they believe they would always be chosen over newer sites.

In my opinion, we can also try out some new site but to avoid losing, it’s advisable to play with small money so that it can easily be forgotten if lost.

No, we don't have to write off new sites, but we need to be careful if we want to play at new gambling sites. No one will know what is going to happen with the new sites in the future, and we don't have to spend so much money on that site. The problem is many people are trying to playing gambling at a new gambling site because they think that the site is legit, but after they get the win, they cannot withdraw the money.

The high bonuses are to attract the gamblers to try their site but only a gambling website which serious with their business that will satisfy their customer. The scam gambling site will not give their promises to their customer because they only want to get their money, and then they can run away from them.
8934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 27, 2019, 12:25:28 AM

It’s a very bad idea to try to recover loses in gambling, it makes players end up with more loses, if I were the OP, I would just be patient with BTC and not be in a hurry to get back all money together by gambling. This was a huge mistake.

There is nothing wrong with recover loses. All people, including you, must be ever feel want to recover your loses before ASAP you can. When OP decided to gamble his money, who knows if he would be ended losing it all. He could be won more than he had before too, if he knew he will ended lose it all, he would never ever want to gamble his bitcoins

Although there is nothing with recover losses, we need to realize that recover loss in gambling would be very difficult than in another thing like trading. We still cannot always win in any games, and even we can get more losses if we force ourself to continue. The losses will be bigger than before, and we can end up by losing all we have.

That is why I don't want to use bitcoin for gamble because, for me, bitcoin is too worth to just for playing gambling. The pain of losing the bitcoin amount will be too hurt than if I use the other coins for gamble.
8935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Make Money Without Trading or Gambling on: August 26, 2019, 06:00:03 AM
Gambling in my opinion is not a good solution if we want to make money. because there is no technique that can be learned and there is only speculation we cannot know the extent to which we can be lucky to gamble but if trading knowledge and also techniques can be learned

Yes, it is not. It is better to do the other thing than playing gambling to make money because we will feel it's very difficult to win and we don't have a big chance to get big money from gambling. I think we could be lucky in the trading than in the gambling because we have so many potential coins that can increase in anytime although now we still face the bear market. Who knows, after this, the market can increase higher, and that can trigger all coins to rise again after it slept for a long time.

Perhaps, the investment can be a way to make money, but we need to select the right investment so we can be able to make money. There are many people who already invest their money into many coins because of they sure that the time will come to them to make huge money again. So we could choose an investment, trading to make money while gambling is for having fun in our busy days.
8936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is investing in crypto a good idea? on: August 26, 2019, 04:59:16 AM
In the digital technology era like today, we need to open our mind and our eyes to see another chance of investing to make money. Investing in crypto is a good idea because we can buy so many types of coins to be our new investment so we can make a profit from what we invest. We don't have to just invest in the traditional investment if we can have the other investment because our reason is to make more and more money. And now, we can do that in the cryptocurrency and I am sure that the cryptocurrency will attract more people to invest.
8937  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a Stock Market Crash affect Bitcoin? on: August 26, 2019, 03:58:50 AM
It could affect bitcoin in both ways. first btc could increase in value fast, because people leaving the traditional stock market and looking for other opportunities.

people who are invested in btc and in the stock market selling their stocks with a loss and taking profits on their btc investments to cover the losses. so, there are some different scenarios how a stock market crash can affect btc in my mind. 
That means more whales are coming and by that scenario, we can only assure that the price will go up if the demand increases but the price of bitcoin can go the sideways and might follow the trend of the stock market. The price of bitcoin should stay on a higher level, we can’t afford to see bitcoin’s recession.

I am sure that many investors from the traditional stock market are already invested in many coins, especially bitcoin, because bitcoin can give them a big profit once the price increases. Although now the situations of the market are not good, we have a chance to see the market will have a bull run time because from the last year until this year, the price can increases so the bull runs itself will come in the right time. But we need to hold the coins for a while if we don't want to miss the chance to get a bigger profit in the future.
8938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Would you Like to See in a New Casino Site on: August 26, 2019, 02:54:35 AM
We'd love to see that new Casino site will accept a number of different cryptocurrencies not just only for BTC, ETH, could be at least the top 10 coins in CMC maybe. Prizes may vary depending on the capability of the house and some basis of the wide competition.
Above all, the most important we are secured, friendly user and comfortable to be there.

That will be a good idea to have a different cryptocurrency and not just accepting btc, eth. I am sure that will make gamblers stay for a long time, and they can send another coin to continue playing gambling. It will be better if they can also accept the cheap coin for bets because people who don't have much money or coins can buy a lot of coins from the market so they can send it to the gambling websites to playing gambling.

Perhaps, the new casino site can add chatbox like the other gambling website so they can talk to other gamblers and share their experience or talk about many things. Although chatbox is an old feature in the gambling site, I see that now, the new gambling sites don't have the chatbox, so I think that will be good if it's available.
8939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What withdrawal fee do you consider as fair in gambling sites? on: August 26, 2019, 01:48:01 AM
The withdrawal fee I consider to be fair will be 10k sat - 50k sat but only some gambling websites which use that amount of the fee to send the withdraw. Sometimes the fee will be bigger because I have that experience in the past, but I don't mind as long as the bitcoin amount can arrive in my wallet without waiting for a long time. But for 0.001 btc as the withdrawal fee will be too big and I don't think that gamblers will comfort with that because their money will reduce to big too.
8940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the difference between binary option and gambling? on: August 26, 2019, 12:30:37 AM
I always measure gambling from the level of risk and reward and i do believe that, this is the reason why cryptocurrencies traders, binary option traders, and forex traders are been referred to as gamblers by those that did not know how there work, as it is possible to have your entire accounts wipe out if you take risk with all your funds and at the same time it is also possible to double or triple your funds by just small movement in you favour.
It is almost impossible to come out with profits in binary options and a lot of strategies are out there and I have tried many of them. One thing is very common and that is: the gambling companies keep making money and binary option websites owners are among millionaire in their countries. My question is that,  is binary options part of the gambling industry as it deals with betting?

When it's called trading, it's not gambling, that is not the same. Binary options are not part of the gambling industry as if we know how to do binary option, and we could make a profit. While in gambling, even we know how to play, it doesn't mean we can always win because gambling will need one more thing, which is luck inside the games.

Both binary options websites and gambling website owners make huge money from the business, but each people on each business are making money too. But I think the percentage of every people in each business will be bigger in binary options than the gambling industry. I think the difference between binary options and the gambling industry is we can learn on each business, but the chance to make money will be bigger on binary options.
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