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8941  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: March 28, 2017, 04:51:55 PM
many bitcoin price manipulation was a pretty big play.
therefore making huge profits but there are still problems as members of this makes bitcoin bitcoin prices do not ever fall from the previous lowest price.
There was a time when a simple news could impact the price of bitcoin but i think things are changing and if not for the forking and power struggle we would not see a price slide and even now the price is recovering,price manipulation is possible in alt coins where they have low volumes.If you are holding millions of dollars of millions worth of bitcoin then you could manipulate the price .

I agree. Does that mean bitcoin is gaining trust or there are just much more holders now than spenders or panic sellers.
I guess we learned a lesson from before like the $800 rise then back to $600.
That is a good experience for us to see how strong bitcoin could be.
There are different types of how it could be manipulated. But as I see now, there is not much. Only dumping and pumping back for a mild profit.
I think bitcoin is somehow making it easier for others to make money just like that although it is still risky for me.
8942  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: March 28, 2017, 03:32:11 PM
First thing it is called altcoin because it is not bitcoin.
Replacing it will bitcoin an altcoin?
Kind of hard to swallow and hard to imagine it. So example ETH will be the main crypto currency so what happens to bitcoin?
Just imagine it. Isnt it a little awkward?
I believe nothing can replace it. It made its grounds and it is to hard to break it.
8943  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: March 28, 2017, 10:28:40 AM
We are truly living in the future, and those that cannot see it are cavemen,

Don't be like that, people that aren't into bitcoin can't be consider as cavemen. They are just probably not being reached by things about bitcoin. So they don't know why bitcoin is a good currency and investment. But once they had enough knowledge about it probably they are the ones that will voluntarily ask someone about it.

Very true. I once tried to explain What Bitcoin is to one of my senior who is also a finance guy and till now, even after 1 month he haven't understood how bitcoin is created. I hope he will get the concept one day.  Smiley

I agree with you. It's useless for people to talk about what they do not care about. I respect the choice of people and I will never impose my opinion on bitcoin.
But if a person is interested, I am ready to share my knowledge about bitcoin

I think many of us have pass this way also.
The hardship of understanding it even though it is easy for us.
If all is new to you and you dont even have the slightest idea that will be much harder.
I understand it though it will just need more attention from the one who will be teaching him. I have been there also. Try to be patient with the guy.
8944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: March 28, 2017, 06:10:22 AM
People should use bitcoin because it is going to be the future online currency of people who are living through the web. And it is very reliable to use this instead of using payment processors that are charging high fees for our transactions. Because of bitcoin we are secured and anonymous when purchasing something online.
i agree with you that bitcoin is already is online digital currency and a lot of people are using bitcoin for online shopping and i hope we can be use bitcoin for direct shopping in local stores in the future.

It's going to happen once the whole world already had enough knowledge and known bitcoin as a real online currency. For sure those businesses, local and international are the ones to voluntarily get into bitcoin. That's why as early as now, you should use bitcoin so that when this time comes, you already know what to do.

And when the Blockchain could support more simutaneously transactions. It's worthless to have all the world population aware about Bitcoins and wanting to use it if the Blockchain isn't able to proccess so many transactions at same time. But until that time comes, I think everything will be ready to support the mass adoption.

Yes, when there's already a solution for this network traffic about transactions that are causing delay in confirmation. It's now ready to be adopted by a lot of people and we can make each of our transactions to be an instant once we send it to the receiver. There's just lack of popularity with bitcoin since many are still doubting on it.

Possibly. But there is still a problem after that. Getting them to know bitcoin is really the main issue. They dont have the enough resources to instantly have a glimpse of it.
There are still rural places into which cannot be reached by internet or just dont want to. Besides, other people dont just care and would rather just do their job instead of getting more which will make them restless. Laziness to view one more thing and just want to stick to what they do.
An advertisement would really work or maybe posting it to news all over the world. But I doubt that will happen.
8945  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: March 27, 2017, 01:30:25 PM
Currently function of the bitcoin is already good, no need for a bank. If there is a bank, I think bitcoin function bitcoin equal to fiat money, I think it is not nice, bitcoin must be different with real money so no need to bitcoin bank.

More like Paypal. It is like an online bank for you to purchase what you want in the world wide web.
Lucky for Paypal they hit the spot of being used normally like a fiat also and the people got used to it.
Shops also agreed and made it as a payment method.
Why not bitcoin? Because we are not centralized? Because we are not using US dollar?
If you go through it somehow there is like power behind it.
While they dont even see how Paypal is robbing them.
8946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: March 27, 2017, 10:24:25 AM
Giving up gambling is quite easy, when you don't have any money left to gamble with, You will eventually stop gambling.

It may be easy for you but not for others who are severely gambling and can't get out of that addiction. It's why many are keep on making new years resolution and will stop gambling noted on it. But in the end after a couple of days, they are keep on coming back, addiction in gambling is a cancer we all know about it.

Who is a gambling addicted probably has traumas in life and uses gambling to escape from their own life. The person isn't sick because he is a gambling addicted, he is a gambling addicted because he is a sick person.

Everyone has the capacity to think bigger, to have hobbies and dreams, life can't be so low and restrict to something like gambling... Overcome your traumas and you will overcome addictions.

I don't think that that's the case in general. For some, the effects gambling relieves them of stress, sometimes gambling is a way for them to express themselves and some just for plain enjoyment. If you have something that you really like or you're really fond of, veering away from it would always be hard

I agree with you.
I think the one on top of you said it too harsh.
It is not just because of that. There are a lot of different reasons for a person to gamble.
I have friends who does it and they are very happy with his life. Sometimes he even does it with her wife.
You dont know what every person think so better make it straight.
Gambling can be enjoyed. It just depends on the person who is doing it.
8947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: March 26, 2017, 01:28:29 PM
today bitcoin can be called as a currency. bitcoin has a value which is fantastic. some institutions and large companies were already using bitcoin. This is a positive value for bitcoin use in their daily lives.

Yeah and that is kind of a problem also. It is considered as a currency so those who are on top of this industry may want to take it down.
There is a lot of movement also unlike other currencies which moves like worms into slowness.
That kind of technology is kind of different to them and it might scare other countries.
Well for now, it is way going down in price. I am thinking someone or something is behind to all of this.
8948  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: March 26, 2017, 07:48:24 AM
I guess those who are trying to break it down fails.
It is still there and a little bit more will hit the $1000 mark again.
There is no stopping bitcoin as long as people see more about it.
Now, I think they are seeing profit with the very cheap price they could buy and maybe sell again when it rises back.
8949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: this is just sad on: March 25, 2017, 04:04:09 PM
market cap is a meaningless number
 

Its not entirely meaningless.  It may not be entirely accurate, buts not stick our heads in the sand.
Every day, ethereum is gaining users, and Bitcoin is losing too many because our network cant scale
and is losing utility.



Meh. Not real users. Rage quitters, traders, hedgers, gamers. They ll come back because of the real scarcity.
The potential higher velocity of ETH is bad for the monetary value. But even this can collapse once ETH scaling is reached as well..

Yeah and they will come back regretting it.
They will have to pay more than what they have sold and could make them rage more.  Grin
There will always be new buyers.
Looking back at the chart. Try to browse up. Look how high all altcoin market cap is. That website sure makes a good lie.
8950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Its time to grab bitcoins from the whales! on: March 25, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
Yakamoto is correct time to spread it to other people.
I guess we should pursue more to buy if we cant anymore.
Of course we cant sacrifice all our money for buying it all so we need help.
Other small investors would love to hold some bitcoin if they will be pursued to think that it will rise if they do buy now.
Somehow it needs to be a wholesale.  Grin
8951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 25, 2017, 05:52:05 AM
For me experience in gambling does not matter as long as you know the game or how to game works you can just bet atleast 1 satoshi to try it before do a stupid things on bettings some of us are just lucky to make a profit  i think there are lucky people who can make money every day.
it is not necessary but will helpful when you have it ,
so better you get a lot of experience before make a big bet ,
then you can make sure you are confident enough to place that bet ,
it was the benefit gamble using bitcoin , you can gamble as low as 1 satoshi!
We always learn when we tried something new isn't it and when we fail we always find ways to make it succesful experience is when you are going to try new im confident when im palying gambling thats why we are loosing tho. You can gamble as low as 1 satoshi to try if the system will make you lose or win.

Yep, I have done that too. Betting 10 satoshis just to test the fairness of the gambling site.  Grin
We all want it to be fair and I have done some numbering to how much I lose and how much I win.
You can only do that when you have experience with gambling.
 First timers wont do that and they will just keep on betting without testing it. So it is important for me.
8952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can i do with Bitcoin? on: March 24, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
It depends really.
First, we don't know about your experience, life goals, what you want to achieve in your life etc.
Second, please be aware that some ways of using bitcoin, like trading, gambling etc. can be very risky and costly.
Lastly, it depends where you live really.
In some countries you already have a lot merchants which accepts bitcoin, a lot bitcoin ATM's...
In other countries you don't have really choice but to either spend bitcoin online or keep funds in the wallet.


I do think this way too. It depends on your place is the first thing you should think about.
If your country dont care about bitcoin then it is okay. Some website wallet could open up for your country and be connected to a certain bank.
At that point you could withdraw your funds easily into cash.  That is good.
How do you really want to spend it? That is the next. Is it just for investment or you have other things that you want specially with the internet things which bitcoin is connected.
8953  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin prices go to the moon? on: March 24, 2017, 02:24:26 PM
Bitcoin should come down to $200 again so i can buy it and let it go to the moon Grin
Don't make me laugh, I don't think bitcoin will down to 200$ go try to list it in the water if that happen Grin
Bitcoin now has been reduced at below 1100$ but it will be never be drop in below 1000$. It can recover it at once more than 1200$ Wink



In the history of the bitcoin, haven't been priced down to $1000, so to be a $200 I think it's impossible.
We can see now, every year the price of Bitcoin is surely increased. I believe in the end of this year, it's will be $1500 - $2000/BTC.

Yeah. It went down really hard before because there is not much of supporters.
But now? Bitcoin became a big fish in which many will be supporting it and willing to do what must be done to not let that happen. Pumping it will be easy if ever it will go down.
I think many of us have already saved money in case a fall would happen so we could buy more. Right?
8954  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Up And Down on: March 24, 2017, 09:47:21 AM
It seems to be some GIANT investors manipulating the bitcoin market.

Any ideas?? Huh Huh

It was always like this, there's nothing special about today or this week, or this month...

I strongly agree.
Do we really have to talk big about this? I got a prediction.
Some people here will use the BU thing again to make a maze to why bitcoin is waving like this.
One more prediction. There will be lots of them that will use it as a reason for this kind of things.
It will come true.  Grin
8955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which is your favorite gambling game? on: March 24, 2017, 08:34:59 AM
Still it is poker which takes out your skill once you are in front of the poker table.
Sports betting also which is easy. Team A or Team B only. If you are a fan of one team you can make the game more exciting by betting on them.
Dice is just too basic. It will just depend to which website you will play.
I prefer Yolo now. Before I have been playing at Yobit but I dont like the way it all end up.

8956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any place to gamble IF the Mayweather vs McGregor fight will happen? on: March 23, 2017, 01:52:32 PM
The fame whores.
This will not happen, it is just fame that they want and it is being bitten by people.
McGregor wants to be known to cover up his lost. Pfft. This two will not fight and McGregor is way to far to get the fight that he want. Mayweather won't risk his clean record just for him.
8957  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST bets, chat, WAGERING CONTEST with 1 BTC PRIZES IS LIVE on: March 23, 2017, 08:48:06 AM
site profite over 58 btc Profit

nice site for play dice
The profit is good but recently it went down from 60 btc to 58 btc i did lose some money in bankroll i just hope it becomes 70 btc soon

Ohhhhhh no some players won 2btc this cant be true

Lol
Why can't it be true. Site is probably fair. Everyone have equal chances of win and loose. If they play smart they can win and if they hurry they can win/loose.

Yeah. Kind of like a greed to take back what is lost in an instant.
That is not how it works. Sometimesbit takes a lot of time to get it back and there are times you will win on the start. Beginners luck.
8958  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not treat BU as Alt? on: March 23, 2017, 06:11:25 AM
I dont get it.
I have read so much yet I cant still understand.
They say it is an altcoin but alts should have a price right?
Some say it is part of bitcoin, if that is the case then there should not be a price for this or else they will be a competitor.
If they will get their profits through bitcoin only then I can't say they are an alt but more like an option to transact.
Which is it really? Can someone make it clear?
8959  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: March 23, 2017, 05:05:04 AM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
all traders not always earn profits even professional trader can experiencing lose but you have to learn from losing it can give you a little hint to be better than the last

In short it is called experience.
The feeling of losing makes you stronger the next time and also make you more wiser.
Now you will be making decision that would rely to the information that you will get first.
Without information you wont be risking anything or try to make a trade with an altcoin that you have never even read what it is all about.
With that, losing chances will be very low and you can take it the lost again because it already happened to you.
8960  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: March 22, 2017, 05:34:17 PM
Yes good is just a rock and Fiat notes just paper. Bitcoin is just digital. They all serve the same function and that is to trade. Otherwise we would all need a massive supply of everything because I have only a shovel and some pocket lint to trade but I need a cow because I want daily milk. That's why we use these are items like gold silver copper other rate stones etc etc because they are just that, they are rare. Using them means you don't have to keep a cow with you in case someone will only accept cows in a trade. Now you have one item that has value and you can use it to trade for anything you want. We don't live in the Stone age anymore I think we have moved on from paper I mean we use pc's now we don't keep records on paper ? So why keep.money on paper ? It's just a currency it's form will change as we evolve. Or should we go back to carrying a whole.bag of coins that weigh down your pockets and get you killed.Or have them stolen or would you rather have a 200gram phone ? This is the she if technology.

Yes everything is upgrading and we just have to live by it.
The faster everything becomes the better, so we could do other things like being with our family when every transaction is done.
I wouldn't like carrying a gold in my bag so that I could trade it to a cow or for a milk. Every trade should change the way it is to give convenience to everyone.
It is not really a danger with cryptocurrencies, it is the danger that not everyone will follow or could follow.
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