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901  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2017, 02:13:14 AM
they aren't the world reserve of dirty fiats which is about to lose its status, to bitcoin.

You gotta stop drinking if you think this is true.  People say platinum and palladium would never be considered as monetary instruments because they're monopolized almost entirely by South Africa and Russia.  The idea that Bitcoin could become the world reserve currency while monopolized by China is honestly a joke.  It's not possible for Bitcoin to defeat gold and silver on Exter's pyramid.  It might have some use somewhere, but it will never be the main unit of account.
902  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 21, 2017, 01:52:21 AM
And here is my theory on how Trump might actually help the jewish bankers on accident even if he tries to fight them:

but the dollar will crash and media will blame trump

I don't remember the exact number, but I think it's something like 60-80% of international trade is in USD.  A lot of that is probably from the oil sales and such.  Unless the US prints a lot of money or foreign countries switch to denominating trade in other assets, it's very difficult to bring the value of the USD down in relation to other garbage fiats.  That's the whole catch with being a reserve currency, you're required to export more currency than you bring in (a trade deficit and implosion of domestic manufacturing).

The only way Trump can "make America great again" is to destroy the dollar, China style centralized devaluation, print dollars to infinity with hyperinflation, or some other such tactic.  Some people have theorized US currency would be switched into two different units with a new domestic only dollar.  Such a tactic would likely only help the scumbag jewish bankers implement the SDR to take over the world with the SDR as the unit of account, though.  Then 1st world nations would descend into poverty as slaves of the IMF/BIS.
903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2017, 01:42:46 AM
but the dollar will crash and media will blame trump

I don't remember the exact number, but I think it's something like 60-80% of international trade is in USD.  A lot of that is probably from the oil sales and such.  Unless the US prints a lot of money or foreign countries switch to denominating trade in other assets, it's very difficult to bring the value of the USD down in relation to other garbage fiats.  That's the whole catch with being a reserve currency, you're required to export more currency than you bring in (a trade deficit and implosion of domestic manufacturing).

The only way Trump can "make America great again" is to destroy the dollar, China style centralized devaluation, print dollars to infinity with hyperinflation, or some other such tactic.  Some people have theorized US currency would be switched into two different units with a new domestic only dollar.  Such a tactic would likely only help the scumbag jewish bankers implement the SDR to take over the world with the SDR as the unit of account, though.  Then 1st world nations would descend into poverty as slaves of the IMF/BIS.
904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2017, 01:30:21 AM
trump sees a broken down golf course, hotel, or country.

and then, he makes it gr8 again.


905  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 21, 2017, 12:48:32 AM
The Divided States Of America (DSA):

Anonymint, I hope you posted that as a joke because it was clearly written by a Marxist.



If we imposed a system like bitcoin upon a society

Coincube, you're gonna need to settle down on the excessive religious stuff or belief you actually can impose anything on anyone.  The reason gold and silver have value is because they still have value no matter what you ATTEMPT to impose.  Gold and silver are money and everything else is credit because it can be defaulted on.  Even Anonymint's claim of some magical new coin that solves all problems even if it works is just flat out credit and will never be anything compared to gold and silver as shown below:


Fiat has always been a derivative of metals, a coupon to exchange for them.  What essentially happened is that the bank defaulted on you and you were left holding the bag if you didn't turn your coupons in beforehand.  Just like everyone who currently owns fiat is holding the bag still.  Fiat can default.  Bitcoin can essentially default if the thing becomes unusable somehow.  Metals can't default because it exists as more than a concept.

Cryptocurrency is honestly overall just a joke.  It's riddled with counter party risk and potential black swans where it's virtually the same as fiat in that regard.  The only real question is if it was launched as a government scam or failed experiment by some other entity.

As I already posted before, Bitcoin was created with a Rube Goldberg pricing mechanism that attempts to make the user believe the pricing mechanism is identical to gold and silver mining, having an actual price floor, where none really even exists:

http://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-7-bitcoin-is-not-an-actual-store-of-value-because-there-is-no-real-price-floor-or-inelastic-demand

It's really almost identical to fiat in all aspects once you take into account inevitable centralization of all these systems whether it's by stake or mining (just externalized stake).  It just takes people a LONG TIME to cut through all the bullshit and get to the bottom of the Rube Goldberg machine and articulate why all these things are the case.  I don't consider myself an idiot and it's taken me years to articulate why all this stuff is the way it is, and Anonymint is the self proclaimed smartest person in the universe and he's still sorting through it all.

906  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 20, 2017, 04:49:03 AM
Gold I accept but silver is industrial and varies more over time and has less advantage over bitcoin and its own variance.

I wrote an entire page for why I consider your statement wrong, that "only gold" is money:

The r0ach report vol 8: The real fundamentals involving gold, silver, and copper as money

http://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-8-the-real-fundamentals-involving-gold-silver-and-copper-as-money


907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Whose got control of adamstgBit account and is censoring around here?

No idea but you have people that don't even know how Bitcoin works typing "Bitcoin is the new gold", then I post that it's not possible for Bitcoin to defeat metals as a store of value on Exter's pyramid and post is insta-deleted.  Posting the simple objective fact that Bitcoin does not make metals obsolete is considered heresy.  This is an economics speculation thread.  Whether Bitcoin can or can't defeat gold or silver's market cap is part of the equation in quantifying price.
fiat beats gold's and silvers and ever other metal's market caps combined.

put that in you pipe and smoke it.

Fiat has always been a derivative of metals, a coupon to exchange for them.  What essentially happened is that the bank defaulted on you and you were left holding the bag if you didn't turn your coupons in beforehand.  Just like everyone who currently owns fiat is holding the bag still.  Fiat can default.  Bitcoin can essentially default if the thing becomes unusable somehow.  Metals can't default because it exists as more than a concept.
908  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2017, 12:13:26 AM
Whose got control of adamstgBit account and is censoring around here?

No idea but you have people that don't even know how Bitcoin works typing "Bitcoin is the new gold", then I post that it's not possible for Bitcoin to defeat metals as a store of value on Exter's pyramid and post is insta-deleted.  Posting the simple objective fact that Bitcoin does not make metals obsolete is considered heresy.  This is an economics speculation thread.  Whether Bitcoin can or can't defeat gold or silver's market cap is part of the equation in quantifying price.
909  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 19, 2017, 11:16:21 AM
That is why crypto is the new gold.

Gold and silver are the new gold and silver.  Bitcoin will always be a tier or more below and never able to defeat it on Exter's pyramid:

The r0ach report vol 7: Bitcoin is not an actual store of value because there is no real price floor or inelastic demand

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-7-bitcoin-is-not-an-actual-store-of-value-because-there-is-no-real-price-floor-or-inelastic-demand
910  Economy / Speculation / Re: Lose all your capital fast, with MatTheCat and his TA 101A! on: January 19, 2017, 10:51:55 AM
John Hussman, who saw the tech wreck and housing bust coming, also sees this market as irrational. He sees a drop between 50-60% on S&P. Predicted 83% drop for tech bubble and 40% for housing bubble.

I predict larger than 40% drop in housing (sans hyperinflation) because this collapse will cause the credit markets to freeze and housing prices are entirely a derivative of the debt markets.  House prices are astronomically high because the mere existence of 30 year loans.  The ability for people to purchase big houses while not actually having any money and spreading the cost out over 30 years inflates the price of everything.  As soon as the credit markets freeze, house prices implode to nothingness since the price has to be paid entirely or mostly up front instead of spread out. 

That would also cause mega deflation to the point where you'd probably have to move to an entirely new monetary system unless they unleash hyperinflation and destroy it that way in the process.

Anyway, here's a post I'm sure MatTheMat will love:

The r0ach report vol 7: Bitcoin is not an actual store of value because there is no real price floor or inelastic demand

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-7-bitcoin-is-not-an-actual-store-of-value-because-there-is-no-real-price-floor-or-inelastic-demand
911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: January 19, 2017, 08:27:41 AM
Went on Steem posting rampage.  This is kind of what my stance has evolved to on the subject after much debate.  Will be interesting to see what Smooth says on this topic since Anonymint replies are usually akin to:  "yes that is correct", or "no, you are stupid":

The r0ach report vol 7:  Bitcoin is not an actual store of value because there is no real price floor or inelastic demand

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-7-bitcoin-is-not-an-actual-store-of-value-because-there-is-no-real-price-floor-or-inelastic-demand
912  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 19, 2017, 05:19:56 AM
Why would interest rates rise in an inflationary supply expanding scenario? Doesnt it rise to curb deflation?

Interest rates rise in a no bid market.  The alternative is that the govt confiscates your money in the bank and replaces it with bonds.
913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Lose all your capital fast, with MatTheCat and his TA 101A! on: January 19, 2017, 03:39:51 AM
MatTheMat, you should visit the Armstrong thread in economics section.  I'm not a fan of him, but it's the only thread where actual economic discussion goes on.  My general stance is that gold should currently be around $2200 even in their rigged system, but they've rigged it down even further to try and support NIRP/ZIRP.  Silver would probably hit around $75 in that gold run.  As for stocks, the stock markets are almost entirely a function of debt levels.  If the debt stopped increasing for instance, I would see a DOW drop to something like 6000 with a brief stop around 10k on the way.

Other interesting stuff:

The r0ach report vol 5: If there's any plausible conspiracy involving silver and bitcoin, this is it

https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/if-there-s-any-plausible-conspiracy-involving-silver-and-bitcoin-this-is-it

The r0ach report vol 6: Why I don't buy platinum

https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-6-why-i-don-t-buy-platinum


r0ach DOW forecast

I wouldn't touch the stock market right now with someone else's money, let alone my own.  We will either have some form of super inflation or the DOW is gonna bring the pain in losses soon.  Take the following chart for instance.  Each time margin debt went parabolic, it then crashed the DOW to BELOW where it originally went parabolic from.  This means DOW is going to have a mega crash down to something like 6k, while taking a brief rest around 10k on the way (this chart is old and it looks much worse now):



The only way out of that is to print a metric fuck ton of money to inflate the bubble even higher.  You also have a comical relationship in the following pictures.  Trump would likely have to increase debt levels by somewhere between 10-20 trillion to keep this thing afloat, which would then send interest rates to pluto and have the entire world on fire with unserviceable debt.  We truly are at the endgame of the debt based scam currency here (the Clinton disparity is entirely dotcom accounting fraud):






r0ach energy forecast:

When complex systems collapse, they devolve into simpler ones.  They never jump into a higher tier of complexity.  Complex systems also tend to require exponential resource (energy) curves.  Peak conventional crude oil already happened in 2004.  Peak working age demographic already occurred in every nation that matters.

Wealth comes from people doing work in the real world, not shuffling around papers.  That work is either done from things like burning fuel to do the work for you, or humans physically doing it themselves.  With both working age demographic and energy output declining, people will be spending more time and effort doing work for the basic necessities and nobody is going to be overpaying people for shuffling numbers on a computer unless it involves something to do with solving the energy problem.

"Excess" energy is why a day's wage in Rome was a small amount of silver and why it's a larger amount of silver now.  Instead of humans having to dig it up, the work was being done for free by machines, thus devaluing it's worth.  But, the time of arbitraging "free" energy into depleting all resources like metals as fast as possible is over now (that and the fact peak metals is occurring regardless the state of energy).  Unless fusion power solves all these problems (not likely because fusion is actually low EROI), then we already hit peak energy, peak cheap metals, peak cheap food, and this energy arbitrage scheme is ending, possibly in a Seneca cliff.





Here's one example of such a chart.  Remember that all wealth is based on energy output since abundance is really just machines burning fossil fuels to do work for you instead of you doing it.  In the gas sector, the high energy yielding conventional stuff is all cratering, so all they did was grab more of the lower return on investment stuff to try and compensate (same thing in the oil market).  So, as this cycle continues, your civilization's wealth continues to decrease until you get to the point of borderline thermodynamic collapse if it uses as much energy to drive the shale oil to market as it does to extract it (and shale is low return on investment).

So, I hate to rain on your parade, but there is no so called knowledge age unless there's some type of enormous energy breakthrough.  Russian govt energy analysts see things getting really bad by around 2020 and say there is no technological solution in sight.  There is no coming out on the other side of the monetary reset with some type of "utopia".  In fact, one of the reasons it's currently crashing is because it relies on infinite growth and the energy situation prevents that.
914  Economy / Economics / Re: Re: Looks like yet another charlatan on: January 19, 2017, 02:27:46 AM
Remember his call on the Dow at 40K by 2015?

I wouldn't touch the stock market right now with someone else's money, let alone my own.  We will either have some form of super inflation or the DOW is gonna bring the pain in losses soon.  Take the following chart for instance.  Each time margin debt went parabolic, it then crashed the DOW to BELOW where it originally went parabolic from.  This means DOW is going to have a mega crash down to something like 6k, while taking a brief rest around 10k on the way (this chart is old and it looks much worse now):



The only way out of that is to print a metric fuck ton of money to inflate the bubble even higher.  You also have a comical relationship in the following pictures.  Trump would likely have to increase debt levels by somewhere between 10-20 trillion to keep this thing afloat, which would then send interest rates to pluto and have the entire world on fire with unserviceable debt.  We truly are at the endgame of the debt based scam currency here:



915  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 19, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
The only constant is the Second Law of Thermodynamics which informs us that entropy is trending to maximum. The Knowledge Age is all about increasing entropy. You had better make sure you understand this and stop clinging to incorrect bullshit.

You keep repeating this nonsensical statement over and over.

Arguing with a zealot is a waste of my time. Enjoy.

You don't even seem to understand the science and math of what you are writing.

You do not because you keep pretending it's impossible for current civilization to enter another dark age.  "Increasing entropy" is not a roadblock to stop a dark age, it's the exact opposite.  How do you get this logic completely backwards?  The more increasing complexity in a system, the harder it falls.  The more inputs required to make a system function, the more of an exponentially, unsustainable resource curve you have being required to make it work (both in terms of specialized humans and physical commodities/overall energy input).  

So technology is doomed by design to experience intense crash cycles and wipe out many previous gains unless you live in an entirely open ecosystem, which we don't.  You could maybe try to claim the solar energy radiated from the sun is a bypass to this fact, but you would still need resources to build panels all over the place and continuously more resources to service and replace them since humans don't natively absorb sunlight and turn it into fuel to do work.  Not to mention metric tons of batteries everywhere.


Martin Shekelstein'sArmstrong's latest gold price talk where he speaks a few paragraphs while saying absolutely nothing:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/gold-bullion-v-coins/

...

So first he's saying gold is going to crash way below $1000, now he's typing some obscure reference that the 2015 closing was the low...
He is not giving you the details, because you are not a paying subscriber.

So first Armstrong has a magical computer that hands him information about a supposedly deterministic universe which would allow anyone with access to this data to instantly become the richest person on earth, but instead of becoming rich, he just needs US to give him OUR money?  You don't see anything wrong with this picture?


P.S. I don't feel good about sharing his paid subscriber info in public and hope Armstrong will not get angry at me. I do it this one time only to teach you skeptics a lesson. Now watch what happens.

The fact that Armstrong has the exact same prediction and timeline for everything no matter which candidate won the 2016 election should show you it's complete bullshit.  Yes, we all know the system is going to crash, but it would likely play out in vastly different ways and timelines under the banker preferred candidate and non-banker preferred candidate.
916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: January 18, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
New one.

The r0ach report vol 6: Why I don't buy platinum

https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-6-why-i-don-t-buy-platinum
917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2017, 01:28:51 AM
Honestly, I'm not sure if any really knows what these banks plan to do

918  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 17, 2017, 01:07:35 AM
Martin Shekelstein's latest gold price talk where he speaks a few paragraphs while saying absolutely nothing:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/gold-bullion-v-coins/

I say he says nothing because the amount of Orwellian doublespeak makes each of his sentences cancel out each other, such as:

"The benchmarks come into play in 2018, but they could be the first high rather than a low and that would confirm a change in trend. The 2015 closing is the lowest"

So first he's saying gold is going to crash way below $1000, now he's typing some obscure reference that the 2015 closing was the low.  Let's cut the bullshit here.  Everything Armstrong does is similar to what Elliot wave traders do, and everyone knows how stupendously wrong Elliot wave traders get things.  In fact, you can't even tell if he's now claiming that was the low or not because he writes his posts obfuscated and poorly on purpose so that later they can be interpreted either way for him to claim he's right.  

Seriously, read that link.  NO ANALYST on the entire planet writes things that cryptically because you don't qualify as an analyst in the first place if you write like that.  He will then reference this cryptic, Nostradamus level post a year from now that says absolutely nothing claiming he was some type of prophet.  The more cryptic you write, the righter you can be!  Look, Nostradamus predicted Trump victory! (electoral college was December)

919  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: January 16, 2017, 08:21:12 AM
Sounds like you have been reading srsroccoreport.com.

Steve
He and I used to argue back in 2006 and 2007 when I was a silver bug. He is not that smart. If you are following this charlatan then you are really in deep shit.

It doesn't matter what that guy says because the Russian govt analysts say the same thing about oil.  I'm not digging up the PDF right now, but the summary is that around 2020 or so the Russians start to have problems keeping up with exports.  I don't remember the year for Saudi Arabs, but I think it was 2030-2035 or something.  Who knows what either group really has, though.  Maybe they both have more, maybe SA runs out sooner.


Technology (knowledge) always rises to fulfill demand. We can even produce oil from coal if need be.

This is bullshit.  The Russian report says no known technology replacement currently exists and it's a large problem.  I do not think they're lying or that anyone has UFO technology they're keeping secret to fix everything.  The Nazis turned coal into fuel for vehicles in the war, and the US supposedly has something like 100 years of coal, but I don't think this is actually a viable method to power all the cars you see driving around today.  It would likely be better to just replace them with electric and use the coal to power plants to charge them.  

This is probably why the US is subsidizing the hell out of Elon Musk.  But, getting rid of gasoline and using coal to power literally everything would likely make every human habitat on earth resemble ecological disaster China, so I'm not sure how much of a solution that is.


Occam's Razor informs you that corruption is the reason. You don't need to invent some elaborate delusion.

No, Occam's Razor does NOT give you that conclusion for why they keep trying to ram carbon tax on people.  It doesn't whatsoever.  Mostly because you would need to believe there is a conspiracy among scientists, govt, liberal celebrities, etc, to falsify data, which might be the case, but Occam's razor doesn't give you that solution.  Occam's razor is of ZERO USE for figuring out most things that go on in govt.  You definitely don't figure out jews run the entire media and banks or that our entire foreign policy is based around benefiting their middle east cult using Occam's razor either, but that is the case.  The only people that deny that current state of affairs are idiots and shills.


There is no peak energy. It is another religious, Malthusian delusion.

This is wrong once again.  My original statement was talking about peak energy mainly in oil and natural gas sectors.  While it is possible you might be able to cover the entire surface of the planet with fusion reactors, you would likely not be able to attempt to start that task until around 2050 (and nobody even knows how viable they are).  Meanwhile, in the real world, conventional crude oil has been flatlined since 2004 and lower return on investment sources were substituted to try and offset that:





The only constant is the Second Law of Thermodynamics which informs us that entropy is trending to maximum. The Knowledge Age is all about increasing entropy. You had better make sure you understand this and stop clinging to incorrect bullshit.

You keep repeating this nonsensical statement over and over.  There IS NO direct correlation between entropy and the 5 billion complex variables that hold human civilization together.  How did your infinitely expanding entropy variable prevent Rome from entering the dark ages?  It didn't.  You are trying to apply some oversimplified computer science/physics concept to a mass of violent monkeys known as humans thinking there is some correlation where none exists. 

And please don't try to claim it creates some sort of unstoppable trend line.  I don't care what the trend line is if the "temporary dip" off course is a 400 year dark age that's 7x longer than my lifespan.  It's like seeing Armstrong claim the "death of Marxism" occurs in 2083 LOL.  It's like, what the fuck are you even talking about Armstrong?  Next he's gonna say don't buy gold until post-2083 since Marxism is bearish for metals.
920  Economy / Speculation / Re: Silence! accumulation? on: January 16, 2017, 07:41:59 AM
I prefer it this way. I guess most of people want it to be like that even though they don't admit it , this should allow them to get more bitcoins while they can. Increasing with stability is definitely better then a pump-dump because the faster It goes UP , the faster It will go down after that. If people decide to dump , then Its on our favor and that should decrease the price for us in order to buy more.

That's not really how it works.  We pumped this thing up like $30 - $40 right before halving and what happened?  The Chinese cartel came and tried to blow it up because they didn't have their money right yet.  People just jump in to try and prevent slow rises and try to force all cliff wall rises and dumps.
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