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9061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably Fair for investors on: February 19, 2017, 01:06:49 PM
Anybody here know about vdice.io ? They have opened up ICO to distribute their vslice token which represents the share of any investors in vdice and profit is shared according to site profit and numbers of share. They also uses ETH smart contracts to roll the results, is there anyway they can also create fake player and make fake bet?  Huh
Yeah seen it and they are doing a campaign now which pays vdice tokens also as a bonus.
You mean dummy users? What for? For more traffic or for gamblees to see some people are playing?
I dont think so.  They won't need that once they finish their ICO. I am thinking of investing there also.
9062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Saving bitcoins on: February 19, 2017, 10:28:36 AM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?
Why people would decide to put bitcoin on a bank? Rate would really changed since banks will surely reduce the inflation profits of your bitcoin and which way they make money on and thats why its really nonsense for building a bank since we could make our own bank and full control of our money.

One more thing is they could have cobtrol with it because they will have the highest number of bitcoin in case people started using it. That might guve them some more profits with just generating false information about other people funds.
We dont want that to happen right? It is better for bitcoin to be in possesion of scattered people than that.
9063  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: February 18, 2017, 05:49:20 PM
I do not agree with the gloomy future of paper money which you wanted to tell. Paper money is the backbone of today's economy and accepted in every corner of the world. On the other hand, a majority of people didn't hear about bitcoin yet. Only a minor percentage of human population heard about bitcoin and even lesser number of people are using that. So I don't see bitcoin as a threat to the paper money in any way.

Paper money is so deeply rooted to the society, it is nearly impossible to uproot that also paper money is being supported by the government. So the future of paper money is still as shinning as ever. Bitcoin is not threat or it doesn't have the power to be a threat to the paper money.
Paper money will keep on existing that is correct but make no mistake the banks and the state are not happy with cash, because they cannot track it, many illegal business are made with cash and tax evaders can use cash to avoid being detected in their financial operations.

There have been ways now to track that.
They are more afraid with the bitcoin technology because it is sure to give them problems about monitoring it.
They will be blind as what is happening now. Illegal transactions such as weapons are being done even this time and they would not known.
Why they hate it? Because they are not the one who is getting the profit.
9064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Daily use of bitcoin? on: February 18, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
Why would you even want to use bitcoins in routine daily shops? you just need to use bitcoin wherever and whenever it's convenient for you not to replace it with fiat.

That I totally agree. Use it whenever I want. If you want to cash it out or make it to fiat then do so. That is your own money now and nobody should block your way into using it.
Some do think it should be kept hidden until the big rise. Question is do you have to really wait if you could make a little profit out of the movements of bitcoin.
9065  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Newbie on: February 18, 2017, 04:23:20 AM

If you are looking for a trading altcoin check my signature many altcoin there are new release also you can buy cheap altcoin there.
Almost new altcoin is always release in yobit so check it out.

Yobit is the place of many cheap coins. where is  also a good place for the beginner in this forum also, though majority of the coins in yobit was really called shit please excuse me for the terms. but still yobit was a good exchange that I can say, I don't care what other's says about me.

i disagree. because i have tried both yobit and many other places. and among them, yobit is the worse. so i ask you why would you choose the worse place among all other much better exchanges?
i mean what feature did you see there that is good enough that you chose there?

If you are choosing for the best and aspiring one go for bitsane though this is a new exchange, it has a very easy and clean environment.

The coins listed here are still few though it has a very good platform for those traders who are looking for the best.

And also sick of using worst exchange, try it pals.

That one is noted. Yobit got a lot of coins in their but you dont know what to pick because they dont clean some who are not even moving anymore, sometried reviving it just for another scam reason.
I hope Bitsane also takes the reputation of picking the coins that will surely stay for long. Just dont let those shitcoins be registered to them.
9066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: February 17, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
First of all you are doing a great job in thinking ahead.
They say thumb drive or a hardware wallet here but all those could get wrecked also if your hard drive fails then you might get more problem.
Some say paper wallet and I would have to agree with that. That is one safest thing that you would do and that might last longer than others.
9067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: February 17, 2017, 11:50:26 AM
maybe yess, because bitcoin still have some problem, also the fee rise everyday, the price rise and the fee rise, in future i think bitcoin can't be micropayment anymore, maybe less fee like dogecoin or other can be next generation for bitcoin
I think we do not know what will happen in the future, we'll just say it might happen? see technology is always evolving and it is possible that there is a coin that is more sophisticated than bitcoin

Technology is not the reason that makes a cryptocurrency strong but is the trust, support and confidence of users to bitcoin. Even though there might be a coin much sophisticated to bitcoin but still it will never replace bitcoin if it does not attracts the heart of the people. The secret of bitcoin is the people who love it and more and more people are coming into bitcoin as time pass by. This just tells us that bitcoin is irreplaceable.

Yeah that is why even if they spend a lot for advertisement they would do it.
That is like just business. Spend some capital and profits will come at the end. It is just riskier with this kind of currencies.
They might end up failing and all capitals will be lost. Now that ICO's are there it made it more easier for them.
Offerings like this are not experienced by Bitcoin so still there is no chance it will be replace. Others will just be options.
9068  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST bets, chat, quick deposits, charts and API, JOIN NOW! on: February 17, 2017, 10:21:29 AM
I love gambling at your site and also like the feature of instant payments I only had one problem is it possible to remove that fees because if you see it in terms of competition most of the sites don't take fees and also withdraws instantly.

Somehow they take profits here too. If those fees wont be implemented then there can be chaos there.
 Imagine players withdrawing even with the minimum amount. That is a lot of traffic and might affect the speed of the games also.
And I think the fees are somehow acceptable rather than other gambling site.
9069  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 17, 2017, 08:14:30 AM
If you're thinking about long term investment then I would say Gold but for short term bitcons is the best option.

I don't think that Bitcoin is suitable for short term investment. IMO, BTC is more suitable for medium term and long-term investment. Don't expect Bitcoin to give you 1,000% ROI in 6 months. That is not going to happen.  Grin

Medium term yes I will agree with that.
It is suitable for those who are impatient also but there will be not much of a profit.
That is what is investment is all about. The longer you are staying the better the claims will be.
Short term investments are the riskier one. It is like gambling your money.
9070  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: February 16, 2017, 03:38:26 PM
Yes, trading really an unpredictable job to do and mostly wrong decisions could result to loss of profit. You can't when to buy or to sell because the trending of the altcoins market is very fluctuating and it also relying on the bitcoin price movement. In order to have that to be nearest to predictions is, you must be able to be updated on whats is happening to the trading site that you have invested shares. Be able to learn the ways of trading ways and seek advices from those who are experts of altcoins tradings.

Yes indeed. Trading is the war of highly intellectual decision makers. If you are weak, you are the victim of the pioneer in trading. They will just play with you until you surrender. In trading you must know how the movement of the market price works. And if Alt coin trading is being discussed. You MUST know what are the tactics the devs and the veterans are using to troll the noob traders to take advantage to them

I'd rather say it is the war between price manipulators for the money of the rest of traders. It is unlikely that it will the war between the manipulators themselves since they are not there for losses but for profits. If they see that there is no sure way to make money they will just stay away. So the only possible way to trade successfully long term is to stay with the winning party

But unless you have an insider information, this is a very hard thing to accomplish

I agree with you. Those big amount holders have the ace up their sleeve. Whenever there is a big wave that comes we just have to go with it.
One problem is panicking in a little movement, we have to be sure that every drop will be counted. Without an inside informant that is really hard, we can just rely on predictions which have a little low percentage that will come true.
I suggest getting to know the history prices for more information and instinct.
9071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: February 16, 2017, 02:05:41 PM
It's like asking is the computer the future of type writer?

Yes it is Bitcoin/other crypcurrencies is the future of money because most of the functions of people right now is in a digital way and along with money also it will be digitilized no matter what we don't want it, it is inevitable.

That is way too different to be compared.
I only agree with the way people are using digital technology now but still there are people who don't and we have to consider that fact.
We are talking about money here. This case it is fiat. You change a fiat you change how the one whole country will negotiate with their trades specially with the street vendors.
9072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: February 16, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
Invest BTC in btc trading and you get a good circle going on Wink
Yeah, I think thats the safest option that he can have.Invest into BTC and trade if you dont have time to do that then invest into a mining farm or set one up yourself if you get cheap electricity at or around your place. You will need a lot of cooling equipment along with the rigs though. Could be expensive on the whole.

A lot of capital needed for that mining thing.
BTC to BTC or the other way "altcoins"
Have done some research just now and I see a lot of people are really getting hooked with it. I see that the only part you will be doing is monitoring each price which could make you a little busy. I suggest making a list in an excel form or anything where you could write the best altcoin here which have a lot of movement too.
9073  Economy / Economics / Re: Build a Bank Of Bitcoin on: February 16, 2017, 11:56:32 AM
I would not. First is I dont know you.
Second are many questions.
1. Would you rely on the bitcoin price as it grows also?
 Example: If I stored 1 bitcoin to you now and the price is $1018 then suddenly it goes up by $2000 does that mean you my store bitcoin in your also have that price? You might lose some money with that.
2. How much is the interest? Is that interest going to grow according to the price of bitcoin?
9074  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you choose casino to play? on: February 16, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
It is the crowd for me. How many people are there.
That is my means of telling how legitimate a website casino could be or even the physical one.
Website design is also a factor I want it simple and not much going on specially wirh the introduction.
My internet is not that fsst so I want to somehow equal it with the casino site.
The simplier the better.
9075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should we ReBrand Bitcoin? on: February 15, 2017, 03:35:23 PM
I agree in one of the reply. It might make it as an altcoin.
We are still few in numbers and others might get confused for now.
Only those who are really popular can adapt with changing their names or logos.
If there will be a chnage it is not yet now or the next year. We need more people supporting it.
One question. Who will rebrand it? The bitcointalk community? The largest amount of bitcoin holder? No one can.
9076  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Can Hit $2K ? on: February 15, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
$2k huh? Some of the people here are predicting much higher prices.
It is really awesome now how they trust bitcoin unlike before.
Now the real question is are you going to hold it even if it falls for a day or two?
I am also thinking above that since we are growing in number of users now and how about companies that are opening that are accepting bitcoin.
Keeping this up will generate a huge change with its value.
9077  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] YOLOdice.com Signature Campaign on: February 15, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Hello everyone!

I've a few important announcements to make.
First is that this campaign is a huge success! Lots of users want to join, hence I'll be a bit harder from now on on the quality and participation of members. There is still no minimal number of posts per week, but inactive members might get a participation warning because we need the campaign to be active!

Second is about post counting. From next round (Monday 20 February) this changement will be taken into account:
-Posts in Beginners help section will be counted as fully paid
-Posts in Altcoin section will be paid as half.

We thought a lot about that, it seems that some users posts nearly only in altcoin section. The problem is that YoloDice only accept BTC so altcoins aren't interesting for this site. We decided to not penalize completely users by stop paying those posts, but it's important to ensure you're active in other parts of the forum.
To compensate a bit we openned the Beginner section as you could attract new members which would be great!

Please as usual feel free to PM for questions linked to the campaign.

I agree with that altcoin part since they only accept bitcoin.
Thank you for the update. Fully noted.

Updated my signature code.
I know there is no spot for Sr. Member so I will just stay with the full member pay until there will be one.
Thanks.
9078  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which site is the best for sports betting? on: February 15, 2017, 01:26:57 PM
And directbet wins!!! Yey!  Grin
Of course it will be. It is the fastest way to make your bets.
The best part is, there is not much going on with their website that is why it takes just a little while to load.
Specially when you are trying to chase the game even if it is ongoing. Love that idea of live betting.
9079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about the idea of a bitcoin shop in big cities? on: February 15, 2017, 08:20:56 AM
I don't like that idea because bitcoin is a virtual money so it has to be created on the net and not in a shop. That is ridiculous from my point of view.
At one point what's been said is right that it need to be used as a virtual money which needs to be got only from internet. But another important thing is that it needs to grow further for which all kind of users is required. So only through shops and other banking services only it can be popularized.

Somehow I disagree.
What is the problem in shops using it? He said shops in big cities so literally internet access is existing there.
This shops can do it because they also use internet.
Look at the credit cards, the usage of it have been successful and the banks didnt even do anything. Are they the one who provided those technology to which they will swipe the cards? No.
If a shop wants their sales up they will be the one who will make an effort to make it work.
9080  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: February 15, 2017, 04:18:21 AM
Sportsbetting and poker is really fun but I havent win that much
I am kind of betting in the losing side because somehow i think I am lucky. The problem is iy always lose until the end.
Good thinh I can win it back in poker I guess my luck us really there and really enjoyed playing it even if it takes time.
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