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9081  Economy / Speculation / Re: 350 USD in August on: August 16, 2016, 10:49:57 AM
For the past 4 days the average drop of Bitcoin is $4 per day so if this continues to happen until end of this month we are looking at $64 drop from today's rate since we still have 16 more days to go to close August. That being said, $350 is far from the what we have now that is its only $4 per day drop and we may reach close to $490 - $510 by end of this month.

The reason for the bitcoin price drop is that people are more interested in the altcoins now as they are more innovative.

Agreed people are getting attracted towards altcoin as it allows them to make quick profits, and that is the reason they are investing their money into it.

People trade altcoins to gain more in BTC or fiat.
Nobody who is serious in really investing in any altcoins.That is crazy!
I mean look at all those scams, and fast daying alts when whales or devs have dumped their premined stash.
The only coin you can reall invest in is Bitcoin!And even here you have to be very careful not to have too much in skin in the game.

You cant compare bitcoin with altcoin because bitcoin is a lot better and already well developed and very popular and yes  you may gain profit with  some altcoin but its just a few pumps and  suddenly dump forever which is not good compare to bitcoin that increase its price that no one altcoin could  compete with it.
9082  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: August 16, 2016, 10:45:42 AM
signature or selling services  you can make a good revenue

Yes signature campaign will give you fixed income and earning from selling services will depend on skills that you hold, if you have more skills then your earnings will also be higher.

Selling your services can generate more bitcoins for you if you have some great skills and if you have confidence on your skills that you will get hired if someone will see your work, so you just have to open a thread and show your work to the community and you will be done.

Exactly and you can expect higher payouts by offering services, and if you are capable of performing multi tasks then your earnings will keep on multiplying in short duration.
this is not that easy as you guys saying.. this is not about just writing a thread and offering something.. you need to have a high quality skills and experience first. because the competition is very high right here. and lots of experts are already offering their services here.. you need to be qualified well here.

There are really lots of experts  there  in this forum which they offer their service for which the newbies have skills would  have a hard time on having to get one job since the competition here is very high as you said but  just try and try to apply and  you must  show in public your recent projects so that anybody would be aware  of your  awesome skills.
9083  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Getting rejected in all signature campings???! on: August 16, 2016, 07:24:52 AM
Yeah its better to go step by step rather then getting higher account instantly as if you are not quality poster then you may get banned and then that investment would go in vain.

Strongly agreed, because if we step by step with gradually also gain knowledge about bitcoin, and it was the one that could make our post meaningless or highly qualified. Because if we have not a lot of knowledge and be required to make a quality post it will be difficult, even be considered low quality of the campaign that we follow. Thanks

That is why it is good to read a lot first and watch over the threads about bitcoin, that way you will always see the latest replies and that could be a good source of knowledge about bitcoin, in two months time, for sure OP will have a good knowledge, enough for him to atleast participate on threads... rushing right now to join a signature campaign would just push him to post a lot that are meaningless.

Agreed,  rushing into things without knowledge  would definitely put you in problem take  a time on reading useful informations in this forum first so that you would have idea on bitcoin  and into other things related into so that you would not be innocent when you are already in a signature campaign.,
9084  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 16, 2016, 07:21:25 AM
Why is this thread still going Huh

He's not going to give anyone 10 BitCoins.

Can we close this nonsense?
Do not enter here if you do not like the topic, this is will be the plan for those users who have 10 bitcoin in their wallet some of the users are collecting some idea in the plan of other users.

Yeah that's right. It doesn't matter whether he/she give it or not the 10 btc. for what most important is get some idea of other's in case we come to that point of having that amount of bitcoins. Besides you are free to leave this topic session dude. We don't wanna be rude to you, were just stating the fact in here. no offense, godbless

Your  too bitter dude, Op just want to  know the ideas and   views regarding on the topic he stated, he didnt say that he would really give us 10BTC and thats  a commonsense thing  and no one would really give you that amount but  the idea and opinions of most users here are important.
9085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 16, 2016, 07:18:34 AM
For gambling that don't have provably fair like sports betting and live dealer, yes you can earn profit in long term. You just need big bankroll for it and i'm sure you can earn much money.
As long as you invest time with planning and doing research on the bets, then it's surely a profitable gamble in the long term.

Most betters actually spend time before they bet researching about the bets and finding really good tippers. When you are approaching gambling in a scientific way then the chances of finding gambling as profitable in long run is high.

Without any proper plan and approach, most of the gamblers blame gambling as not profitable.
Very rarely your plan might work with gambling to get your profits, especially a long run has nothing to do with your plan. You may argue that you will enhance your plan over time, but you should never forget that gambling house will also get enhanced over time to beat you all the time.

Maybe there are some  strategies  or techniques  that may work for a little time but  for sure  it wouldnt last in the long run. As he said   the gambling house  would definitely find ways to beat you out. Gambling is just a matter of luck and  for me there are no techniques or ways to maintain  on making profit which is really impossible .
9086  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn bitcoin by sig campaign? on: August 16, 2016, 07:15:25 AM
We have very many signature campaigns. Each have their own slots from Newbies to Legendary... Find out the campaign according to your rank and start posting quality posts. They will pay you the bitcoins if your posts are qualified.
Right. To earn more bitcoins you require a good written English. Each post requires minimum of two to three lines. This should be qualifying and constructive.
only the length of the post doesn't works. the post should be constructive and play a good rule to the topic. a single line post can be constructive too.
so just focus on getting more and more knowledge about crypto and bitcoin, and rank up your account.

Agree, even those single liners  post are just  enough as long it contribute to the topic and  doesnt  go  off topic then  youre  okay compare to those  many liners out there but  it lacks  of information and  some are  not relevant to the topic. They just post  long sentences just to make it  good  to the  eyesight  but the  thought actually is missing.
9087  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: August 16, 2016, 07:12:08 AM
signature or selling services  you can make a good revenue
but offering service needs some skills and experience. another way of making money on bitcoin talk is to sell digital goods,
lots of people here buying accounts, like facebook, twitter accounts, hackforum, thebot accounts, you can sell all of these type of accounts here . and you can sell hitleap views also.

Yes,  selling services  would  require  amazing technical skills which could definitely give you decent amount of bitcoin. Agree to him , there are lot of ways   to make money in this forum like selling  digital goods  and there are lot of things to choose from just search in this forum you would definitely  see what suits you.
9088  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: August 16, 2016, 07:03:09 AM
In my experience, buying the dip on currencies that have a decent bought of volume has delivered good results. Of course you never know what is a dip and what is a top.. you need luck. Example, ETC dipped, I bought, and now im making money as it goes higher.

Yes studying the current trend why the price sits in a certain range will really help us to plan our next trading moves. Yes it's not accurate but at least you have an overview on what will supposed to be happen.

And besides it's really interesting to make an own strategy and you will see good result after.
It is true, if you are new in trading, make sure you start with a little amount for your trading since you do not know how the market would react so most of the time you fail on your prediction, but with little amount you can manage your losses and what is important is you can learned.

The moment you have learned already, that is the time to set up a huge capital for trading.
yeah. if you want to become a successful trader then you actually have to try everything yourself with small amounts of money to be able to trade bigger in the future
Even in real business, you need to start small as there is no guarantee that when we start we will automatically succeed. Most of the time in the first try we fail so to minimize the risk we need to put only a little but a decent amount to learned how to trade.
your right, before achieving success, We surely would undergo failure. I had a friend who had three times failed in estate ventures, but he never gave up, so eventually this time he was successful. and the point in trading is patience.

Its normal for us to suffer such failures in life  before achieving  succesful things ahead. Just consider and be ready that you would definitely exprience these things because its part of  the learning process.  You would learn everytime  you have made a mistake in such things.
I agree, success is the sweetest when you experience a lot of challenges along the way and you were able to surpass it, investing will give you a chance and opportunity to be rich in the future but it will not guarantee that you will be rich as you also need to work hard to achieve it.

Being successful would  do require  lots of hard work , time and effort and along its way there are trial  and errors   you would experience  and these things would be the stepping stone in your successful journey. Just pursue and  have a strong dedication on achieving your goals.
9089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 16, 2016, 06:59:27 AM
I prefer to invest. investment is much safer than playing gambling. investing one of which is by trading. I trade altcoin to obtain greater profits.
trading risk is quite small.


Well maybe you are an expert in trading and that's why you are saying that risk is quite small, because from my experience trading is absolutely the same thing as gambling, which means you lose all you have eventually.

It requires knowledge to trade. If you have no knowledge on what you are trading for then it is what you have say, it is like gambling and you are throwing your money away to the others. You need to be more knowledge in order to take money from people pocket.
That's right and the risk is very huge as you are just like basing on your luck on that matter, it is not necessarily that when you are in trading you will consider trading all the coins you say because you have no time in getting the full information of all, just focus on a number of coins and study it carefully.

Having a  research on a certain coin would be helpful in your  trading career because  it lessens the risk on losing  your money on  scam coins out there and you are right you cant buy all of them and  also its  just a waste of money. Trading  altcoins would be also a good source of income if you play  smart on it.
9090  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: August 16, 2016, 06:55:40 AM
Bitcoin important for me because I learned how to earn money through bitcoin . The bitcoin is a big help in my studies because I retrieved my school expenses such as school projects and penetration . A big help to my parents because they do not necessarily spend more on my studies . Bitcoin is very worth it to me.
Bitcoin is help for all of the members of this forum, specially the ones who are participating in signature campaigns, it seems that you are making a good money of bitcoin that do all  of those that you said.

Bitcoin is really worth it for all of us because it is giving a good service to each person that is going to use it. Just like for its transferring service, you can easily transfer any amount to any person where ever is he in the world within minutes he can just receive it immediately. That is why it is really worth it for all of us.

Easy money transfer and with small transaction fee  is  one of the most useful features of bitcoin because you wouldnt have a hard time on going to remitance centers  just to send money from your friends family etc. only you have to do is just a few click away and viola! transfer succesful which is very useful to us bitcoin users.
9091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 16, 2016, 06:42:16 AM
It is not easy to stay away from gambling if you are an addict
but I agree some advice here to block the gambling site in your browser or find a new hobby in your real life.

Agree, its not really easy to stay away  from gambling if you are already get addicted into it , you would definitely find ways   to play on it.  Even if they block the gambling site in your browser  and still useless because  you could easily play outside  on another  pc. Finding hobbies and  things that would keep you busy would be also  a good idea.
9092  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: hack the bitcoin network for 1000 btc? on: August 15, 2016, 04:29:05 AM
This guys is just trolling and no one could even do that to hack bitcoin network. If anyone could do such hacking then maybe hes the richest in bitcoin holders. And no one would  definitely accept that job, you do the hardwork  and you give the 950btc to him and 50 for you? What a nonsense
9093  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 15, 2016, 04:25:35 AM
I actively spend my coins on gambling and trading and sometimes to recharge my cell phone, and whatever profits I am earning from gambling and trading  that I am saving for future.

Why are you wasting your coins in gambling? I am sure you wouldn't have made good profits from it as everyone looses in long run, better you should save it for future.

I think gambling not always wasting and lose if you know how to control and manage yourself at gambling, because i also spend my coins in gambling and i'm not always lose on gambling.
You may not lose always, but at the end if you calculate it you might have lost more worth bitcoin. You will realize that if you have saved it, it reaps you more profits at that time than wasting in gambling.
Exactly if you save your bitcoins for future then whatever profits you will be earning will be higher in compare to gambling for sure, as the percentage of loosing will be higher in compare to winning in gambling.
Yeah right.. i dont why they are not calculate all their gambling how much they lose and how much they win.. honestly if you calculate it you will see that you lose a lot more than you win. So its better to save it for the future and make your own business online that you can make a profit with your business.

Spending bitcoin on gambling is waste of money, everyone knows what end result will be but still they invest there hoping that they will jackpot someday which seems to be unrealistic.
That would only be a waste of money if you do not win, but if you win you will feel contented with the amount you bag especially when that is a big amount. But for people who are afraid to risk their money in gambling then they stay away or just play it for fun betting a little amount only.

Yeah and if you are into gambling since long time and if you are confident that you can win it big then you should go for it or else simply invest that money somewhere else.

In gambling, we do not need to fool ourselves and think that we can win though our record is not telling the story, we should accept the reality so in that way if we are that serious in gambling we can easily adjust our method and can improve to have a better chances to win.

You may win once or twice but you cannot win every time and I am sure the amount that you loose will be higher in compare to that you have won, so overall if you look at the statistics then you will be in loss.
If you can easily accept your defeat in gambling the better because that would limit your loses, some gamblers use rage in gambling which would make them a decision to chase their bets until they lose a bigger amount in the end.

You should have self control in gambling and you should also have control on your emotions, and to make profits from it you should be aware what is the right time to quit.
That's easy to say but it is really hard to do it, when you are gambling you are in the hot seat that you feel you own the world when you are too lucky and having a good streak, that situation is very dangerous as we let our emotions take over and not our brain to use in gambling.

Its really easy to say when you are not playing gambling but in the true situation its really hard to do it because  you would lose your self control and  the greediness is overcoming you already which is a really hard thing to control.
9094  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: For the newbies on: August 15, 2016, 04:23:46 AM
Agree with the part about faucets. They will make you work from dawn till dusk for weeks, before you make your first $10, so not worth bothering with.
Youre absolutely right you will need years before you can collect 1 btc in faucets. Even if you are claiming per hour or per 10 minutes still not enough,

Faucets are just a waste of time and doesnt even worth for your time and effort but those faucets give me  experiences in the past when i was only a newbie. After im done with faucets and i just realize that they are just a waste of time and i decide to join signature campaigns instead.
9095  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 15, 2016, 04:21:41 AM
I would estimate 10-20 BTC

Seems very low to me. Not sure from which country you are from but I would assume you need at least 1-2btc a month at current prices to cover all living expenses, pay taxes, enjoy leisure, etc. You would need these 10-20 per year just to live.
Of course the bitcoin price will rise and you will need less coins,but the living expenses are rising alsim

It depends on the bitcoin price. I reckon the bitcoin price will double every two years, so that price will be $500,000 each then.

I don't think that is possible, we don't know whether bitcoin will exist that long or not and even if it survives its very difficult to touch that price.

Even on $4000 seems unrealistic and its hard for bitcoin to reach that price soon. How much more in $500k then its  very very imposible to happen. As  other said we wouldnt even know if bitcoin would last to for so long that it could rich some  moon amount.
9096  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can i enter a signature campaign as a newbie? on: August 15, 2016, 04:18:01 AM
To be honest you will not find any campaign right now that will allow you to join them with this rank, do not rush for it, upgrade your account first and they join any campaign.

Agree, dont rush into things just take time to read and learn first with this forum since this forum has lots of information you would need  and it could be a very big help in your bitcoin journey. Just rank up your account and as you read or post to threads youll gain knowledge for sure.
9097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: August 15, 2016, 04:15:30 AM
yes that's the main problem right now. I think if that kid was properly be guided and monitored is the best way your the parents to know if their kids was doing illegal stuffs like gambling. Gambling sites has really don't have the capability to know that all their users is legit.
Most cash-only gambling sites actually have high tolerance for non-adult gamblers.

Bitcoin gambling sites however, just as you said, have no legit way of determining if their users are all of legal age. They probably wouldn't mind it though since more users = more profit for them because of the house edge.
As long as there are no rules they have violated gambling sites will continue to operate the way it used to using bitcoins because the are only after of profit and they will do all things to improve their market to maximize their income.

Well, thats business no matter what happen they dont mind  if there are minors are playing as long teres no complain about them or any violated rules then they would definitely continue their operation to make good profits.
9098  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 15, 2016, 04:13:51 AM
Saving money maybe the most stupidest way  to lose your money. Why? Because even if your money is inan bank savings account every year you lose in Inflation your money depreciates its value and you don' t know it. So maybe investing it is a better choice.

saving money as in having money aside for when you need it is a good option. but if you save money just for the purpose of earning interest, then it's not a good idea. to avoid seeing your fiat holdings decrease in value people should always choose to invest a part of their wealth. that's the only way how you can avoid seeing the value of your wealth turn into hot air.
Saving money and setting it aside must be the way on how you silently or blindly make you money decrease. I mean if you set money aside inflation will decrease your money's buying power. While Investing it in atocks whicha has an annual 20% return is not bad and actually beats the inflation rate of most.

Investing in stocks seems to be risky as it goes same like investing in bitcoin as no one can control the price, but as we know that higher rewards comes only with higher risks.

Investing in stocks is a lot easier than bitcoin. Because when the prices go down they still buy because they know it is on a discount we call it averaging down, a popular technique of Warren Buffet that made him into a billionaire.

When you average either stock or any other product should think twice whether that product future is good or bad because sometimes prices will come down due to short-term issues and during that time if you average down then surely you will make a good profit in the long run. But sometimes due to some real and permanent issues prices will come down then it is better to sell off immediately and take the lose instead averaging down to take more losses in future.

Its your decision on when to sell on a certain timeframe. Some may hold for so long and dont mind if they loss some money out of it they dont care and they are just hoping  to have a pump up in future. Some may panic sell because of being afraid on losing those funds.
9099  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: August 15, 2016, 04:11:24 AM
I am visiting dark marketplaces but I don't want to purchase anything from it. It gets me scared whenever I'm trying to visit it because a lot of scammers and hackers are all over there.

Its okay to visit or just  sight seeing in the dark marketplaces  there would be no harm but  on purchasing something into their would really put you into trouble because you dont know whos behind that identity. If you are trying to purchase drugs on a certain person which you dont even know then the truth is  fbi is on that then you got screwed  in the end.
9100  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: August 15, 2016, 04:09:36 AM
not yet, but i want to. first i need to check out how everything works and then if it is ok i buy some to start.

Just a piece of advice try not to but Smiley  Try to earn it so that you can experienced of how hard it is. Through this you can grow in this industry then if you think that your knowledge is enough then try to improve your earning strategies using those bitcoin you get or earned.


Yeah it is a good advice that you are going to try to earn for it so that you are going to know how important it is to have bitcoin at all especially when you did great effort for it. And you are going to earn just for holding it same reason like buying and just for holding it. Your investment is going to be your effort at all.

That's right in this way aside from gaining some amounts you are also learning. If you fail it is fine because you have nothing much to lose at all. You can directly stand up and try again then grow.
Yeah failure is one more step towards the success, even if you fail you should never give up and try to improve your skills and over a period of time you will surely succeed.
Failure is an important step to succes, but if you have just failures there is a problem

Failure is a step to success if you learned from it. If you take that failure as a stepping stone and not repeat the same mistakes you made. But if you failed and just ignore it and try again doing the same mistake you made, then there is something wrong with you.

We dont usually made the same mistake twice because we wouldnt do that definitely because we already know that we failed on that way. Just try  and try to different ways until you find the  best way to achieve your goals. With this mentality you would definitely succeed in the future.
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