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9101  Other / Off-topic / Re: In 20 years, what would you like to do with your bitcoin? on: August 15, 2016, 04:06:18 AM
i think holding 100bitcoin for retirement day in next 20years is good option, im sure in future bitcoin will be famous currency and 40% offline merchand use it like visa/ master card.
better is to use most of the bitcoin to open a business in the real world. I suggest to open a business related about the technology. because with technology we can help the development of bitcoin in this world.
yeah, opening a business with bitcoin would definitely be great, i would also like to shop with bitcoins and use it daily all the time
though for that you would need a lot of bitcoins for the first time investment, i think that in 20 years i would like to use my bitcoins on daily basis
I think whatever you want to do in bitcoin 20 years to come? I hope you can gather a lot of bitcoin. because I think the cost of living will be greater in that year. and you have to collect a lot of bitcoin if you want to live comfortably

We must assume that situation would happen , as the year goes by the price our our common needs does  increase too, therefore we must  save bitcoin as much as we can  so that  in the future  we would live enough for our living. 20 years is  a long  game but  we would reach there no matter what.
9102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 15, 2016, 03:02:55 AM
You can do something different to avoid gambling.  Like store your all bitcoin in xapo vault as it takes 48 hours and more one confirmation to process the withdrawal.  So, may be you will keep and make you to feel good.
Feel good? I don't think so. Gamblers usually are short-tempered. This 48 hours of waiting will just make them upset and so mad that the gambler wouldn't do it again. It might make a gambler get away from gambling for a short while but it will give him a bad experience. Also, a gambler would always find a way to gamble. So even if his money is stuck in Xapo, he can always look for a friend and ask for a loan. He knows he can give it back after 48 hours.

Thats right, even what thing that you do in order for them to stop then they would definitely find a way to gamble no matter how hard it is.  Especially to gambling addicts  if they like to gamble then   no one can stop them  as they know that he could pay him  even its 48 hours.
9103  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Steam accepting btc - will it affect the forum market? on: August 15, 2016, 02:55:18 AM
Well, i think that not many people are selling games here.
So steam accepting btc probably won't affect it so hard, it is not so popular to buy games here anyway...

even the are a few  who are in gaming here but the true things is that steam is already  accepting bitcoins as a payment and steam has a lot of gamers or users maybe  it would be a nice advertisement for bitcoin its appearance in steam.
9104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Kim Dotcom Predict 2000$ per Bitcoin ??!! on: August 15, 2016, 02:53:02 AM
I even don't know who is Kim Dotcom. Honestly I already don't know to whom to trust. Here on the forum there are hundreds of opinions about bitcoin and price for it. Someone say that it is dead and another one promise 4000$ this August already. It all is making  me confused. But I believe that bitcoin will rise a bit more soon.

Me too i dont even know him , there are lots of speculation from different person here in online world either famous or non famous personalities. All i can say that i treated them as all speculation without any certain basis since bitcoins price is unpredictable and no know what would be the exact price in upcoming years.
9105  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 15, 2016, 02:47:49 AM
It is not really gambling. If you study and know the strategy of hyip you can know how much time it will pay you . Thats what i do

Yeah maybe, but why do you want to risk to invest in the site that will definitely scam. May I ask if you ever get a profit from HYIP. For example, after achieving ROI, because before ROI can not be regarded as a profit. Thanks

Maybe he has strategy of earn and run,  joining hyips on the first day it launched then pursuing and hoping for a roi, it would be lucky if you get roi on that site but  it doesnt work all the time since most of the hyips  dont usually last long because they cant sustain the  high returns for their members.
9106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 15, 2016, 02:43:10 AM
deposit $10k and play martiangle. start from $1. lol

but that's not my strategy.
Martingale isn't really that much of a profitable scheme, well, only to a certain amount as it would fail sooner or later.
There is really no legit way of making profit from gambling that much easily. All requires a good considerable amount of skills on a particular game. Your one skill may not work on another gambling type for easy money making. That is the reason most of gamblers do fail.
Yeah this is the reason doing martingale is actually not wise, unless u have a really big balance and do it for short time.
However your only chance to make really good profit from gambling, you need to win it in very low amount of bets ( big bets ) and stop playing after that, because winning constantly is impossible.
Winning constantly is not impossible, only highly unlikely. And highly unlikely means something like a one-quadrillionth of a percent chance, depending on how long you keep going for. On a long enough timeline the survival rates of everything (and in this case a winning streak) approaches zero, and in gambling a chance approaching 0 means that it is basically completely impossible.

The martingale method is great for small bets with a massive balance, but it starts to falter beyond that.

Martingale doesnt work in any gambling situation  and it doesnt matter how big or small your bankroll is.  Martingale may work a little bit  if youre lucky but sadly it would rape you out  with losing streaks in the end especially on dice games.
9107  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to get big satoshi instantly on: August 15, 2016, 02:39:52 AM
getting big result you have to take risks, if you do not want to take the risk, you may need to have a skill that can be sell and get paid a high.

I think you have to learn about the trade, the risk can be minimized if you already quite expert, you can even get greater results.

No one can do something in the best way for the first time, everyone learns from there mistakes and then they reach to the highest peak of success in that field, so if someone wants to earn a lot of money then he would surely need to risk big amounts as well for that, even if he fails sometimes but he will manage to reach his goal someday.

Yeah in any field when you are new to it, mistakes will always be a part of it, and mistakes are important as unless you don't commit a mistake how will you learn from it, take mistakes in a positive way and treat it as an learning experience.

As we all know  we learned from our mistakes and someone must treat is as an experience and mistakes are just recipe on having  a  succesful career. As you said   we  really fail at first on whatever things we are starting.
9108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 15, 2016, 02:08:04 AM
How to stay away from gambling, Ofcourse all you need is decipline in your self because if you don't have decipline in your self then you are going to be addicted once a week is enough to play gambling then if you don't have money or bitcoin just stop playing gambling because you always get nothing in your hand and you don't know that all you money you spend it on gambling

Discipline is very important if you want to stay away from gambling because without discipline you are going to keep on gambling. If you are going to treat yourself on a very dangerous situation that you are going to get addicted with it and you know what is going to happen if you are not going to stay away from it then worst things are going to happen.

THe very important things to stay away from gambling is  you must have a  strong self discipline and  a strong dedication to stay away from gambling since these things would help you and  think to another things that would make you busy and  forget about gambling.
9109  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: August 15, 2016, 02:05:51 AM
Can I borrow 6$ from any of you guys?
This kind of post belongs be in the lending topic and not here in a thread about managing money.  Cheesy
But with all the hard nose lenders there I can't see this happening for you for even this amount. Undecided

No one would  definitely give you that amount even its only small because money is money and we require to  do a hard work to obtain it. You are right  this one should be in the lending section, and no one would surely give  that small amount because it needs a collateral for sure.
9110  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn bitcoin by sig campaign? on: August 15, 2016, 02:03:04 AM
We have very many signature campaigns. Each have their own slots from Newbies to Legendary... Find out the campaign according to your rank and start posting quality posts. They will pay you the bitcoins if your posts are qualified.
Right. To earn more bitcoins you require a good written English. Each post requires minimum of two to three lines. This should be qualifying and constructive.

No one needs to write too much in a post to make it constructive or helpful for OP but you should just write your point and the point you are writing should be relevant to the topic directly or indirectly, and that would be considered constructive.

Its always good to keep short and sweet, the basic concern should be to contribute to forum by posting quality information, even a single line would be sufficient.

It doesnt require  it have to be 2 to 3 lines because   1 line sentence would be enough  as long its direct to the point and contributed to the OP's question then it should be fine rather than having a 2-3 liners but  the main thought is empty then its still useless.
9111  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to get big satoshi instantly on: August 14, 2016, 11:03:09 AM
the fact is that gambling and trading were able to get a big amount instantly.

but if you avoid it, maybe you can look for giveaway or contest that gives great reward.

All methods mention by you will need great level of luck, as gambling is very risky and there is least chances of winning, but I would prefer to go with trader as its bit safer in compare to gambling.

Gambling is totally dependent on luck while trading requires a lot of skills and knowledge from the trader, in gambling it does not matter if how big your capital is, you will still lose but in trading the bigger your capital is the more profits you can earn with it.

Trading is always good to earn bitcoins fast, and it involves less risk in compare to gambling as you said you can make profits from gambling only if luck favors you on that particular day.
Yeah right trading is more less risk and you can make a lots of profit instantly.. but honestly i recommend to go in safe way that you dont need to invest or to have a capital to make a profit instantly.. better to have good skills that you can offer you here in our forum this is the best to choose if you dont have money to invest or to have capital for trading.

Yeah don't jump directly into trading hoping to make big profits in a single day, best thing is to start earning coins from various sources and save those earnings for the future.

Dont rush up to things which are complicated for a newbie in bitcoin world because you would definitely screwed up in trading because you dont have any idea of it. If you have skills then you can go to services section and find there. YOu would gain huge amount if you are good enough or highly skilled.
9112  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 14, 2016, 10:55:23 AM
You can save money by creating different portfolios of investments. We have to divide in ratio proportions how much we'd want to save and in what kind of investment scheme. The schemes could vary from Fixed/Recurring deposits with banks, trading in stock markets, mutual funds, Public provident funds and various other methods.
In savings you will not think of investment first, let us say you only receive a little amount of salary, the question is are you still gonna save? The answer is absolutely yes, you need to save as that is compulsory and that would take care of your future in case there are emergencies that would require you to spend money.

Saving is actually good for the people who are not rich and are not earning a lot of money every month or everyday because if someone earns a lot he does not need to save anything because he will always have extra money, but the ones who earn a little that can only run their house for the day then they should just a small percent of it.
Well for me i just save bitcoins for my future to use it in my own business or to buy an house and lot this is just my dream for my future and for my family..  saving is a good thing for those dreaming for their future.. if you spend a lot of money or bitcoin for nothing and you dont saving you will never be rich even you are making a lot of money.

Saving is really important for future, in fact even if you are earning millions but if you are not saving then its useless, as you never know what future holds for you.

If you want to save for the future, I'd recommend you to do it in Gold. The price will only keep rising year after year. People will be looking for Gold soon, as it's the only one which can be used as a currency in case of a financial collapse.
Investing in gold requires a good amount of capital and you can only invest in that if you are already rich. Majority of the people here are just starting to have there investment because they are encourage by the people who got a successful journey with investing in bitcoin.

Agree, gold investments need a huge amount or capital and  only rich could definitely do that because average person couldnt do that. Thats right most of the people here  are just starting to their investment of bitcoin because they see the big potential of bitcoin in the future.
9113  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: August 14, 2016, 10:50:32 AM
since i am indian and in india there is no practical way to spent btc  . but i am using btc to spent at purse.io to purchase some gift card and purchase items .
I think for the delivery of goods from abroad will require quite a long time? of course we can not use it in everyday life?
I really want to buy goods instantly and pay for it with bitcoin. and may occasionally buy at online shop

As of now  that is commonly happening since bitcoin couldnt spend  in all countries into physical stores or some merchants. Some may exchange it to fiat so that they could buy goods  and other necessities and wants. As we see that bitcoin has a bright future maybe it would be possible to buy goods directly by using bitcoin itself.
9114  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? on: August 14, 2016, 10:47:20 AM
I think the right moment to borrow bitcoin is, if we are in need of money for unexpected needs such as illness. Or purchase goods online, but the goods are really needed and can not be postponed to buy it. for investment I prefer to use my own money

Yeah, that's right, we should borrow money on those emergencies, and purchasing goods that are needed to earn, or if it is part of our workhorse such as memory module of your computer, but I think it is also good to borrow money if we are going into investment, but just make sure that you know the investment very well and the investment has a good record and you know you could pay the money on time and with interest aside from your profit..  Wink

Yes it would be useful to borrow if you use it in something that is really urgent or use it in an investment that you can generate money from and would provide you potential profit . I've read somewhere that using other people's money to generate your own money is one of the qualities of a good investor but being sure that he can repay the money he borrows so that it would be a win-win situation.

If you intend to borrow to someone so that you would have a fund on investing on things but  remember you must be  wise enough to put in a right investment so that  its a win-win situation because if you  put it on a wrong place  then you would  suffer big loss which is a really bad thing.
9115  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 14, 2016, 10:45:06 AM
I want ask anyone if i give you 10 Btc what will you do. because i want investment but i have no any good idea to invest it (except gambling) but i don't like dambling.So i want ask you viewS.

Unfortunately, there aren't many places where we can invest our bitcoins but we can try trading them in altcoins and vise versa but this task requires lots of time, stress and we need to be very patient.
I try as much as possible to not spend them in unnecessary things and not to cashout, was thinking to spend on cloud mining but that does not worth.


Spending your bitcoin  in cloudmining sites would be a bad idea because most of the cloudmining sites out there turns out to scam in the long run which is a really waste of your money. Trading would be a good investment but it still requires effort and observation and you must be  aware of those sh*t coins  out there.
9116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 14, 2016, 10:42:51 AM
Many would say that investment is a much better option than gambling but i would go for gambling because in gambling i am not depending on any third party for the profit or the result to come.Also return in gambling is much quicker,we get to know whether we won or lost in some time where as in investment alot of patience is required.

 But in gambling, the odds is always against you. And you cannot rely on it to give a steady profit. There are more chances that your money will turn to zero than it winning. But in investing, you can manage all the risk. Investing in a really good company will give you a steady income.

How can you believe that thing, if you keep on playing it I am sure it will against you and most probably you will lose it but if you only play once or may be couple of times, there is no way you could lose it. There is no way you can know particular company will give you steady income, some trustworthy company that give you stable income have possible or chance to scam you too. There is no guarantee you will earn in every way except working but still I prefer to do both rather than to choose each one of them
I agree with you. There is nothing called safe and sound in the world of gambling. You may win once or twice but the chance of winning is very low and when you do, you’ll easily be addicted to it and your money will keep losing if you don’t control yourself.

On the other hand, you can’t 100% sure that some investing sites won’t scam you and don’t be fooled into those sites that promise will give you way more that you can imagine, it’s totally a scam, so it’s not a steady income with investment.

Safe way or  good techniques in gambling doesnt exist at all even others  always claim that they have strategies to gain profits in gambling. Thats true,  chances of lossing are higher than the chances  of winning and thats the reality in gambling that why there are many gambler out there suffers too much loss.
9117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: stop gambling on: August 14, 2016, 10:38:55 AM
dude its a part of gambling website its your back luck because you always get lose of your money but since you decided to stop playing gamble then congrats to you Smiley and for those people who always win they can't stop because it helps them with their daily living where they get the money to use everyday gambling is for people who always take the risk Smiley
I would like to know why is that? People who play tend to lose all the time while others do not.
Is there a scientific explanation to this?
I just thought it was strange how someone can have this so called bad luck all the time when they play and never see a win no matter what they do or how many times they play. Undecided

No scientific explanation could answer that, someone loses and someone  win and that relies only on how lucky you are. THere are  people who are  born lucky and some  maybe unlucky in playing gambling games at all.  Just like me  when im playing gambling  i always lose  thats why i stop immediately may 1:20 ratio.
9118  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 14, 2016, 10:35:35 AM
if you save your money you will get nothing
I think it is time to invest your money to get earn for your investment
I personally, If I have money I dont think to save it , I want to invest it.
I think both are important, you need to save because in the future there might be some desperate need of money and when you invest all of it you will not get anything because investment also does not guarantee that you money will grow, sometimes you fall.

Yup saving is important as if your investment goes wrong then saving will help you as a back up money which can be used at the time of emergencies.

thats one of the purpose of having a savings, it would be used  for emergencies or any circumstances in the future which involved  financial problems.  Its a life saving  situation when you have an emergency fund or savings  since you can easily use those funds to back up the certain situation.

Yes saving should be our primary concern, and people who cannot afford to invest big will prefer to save first and then after reaching to certain value will prefer to invest it somewhere.
It is always a good plan even to those people who dont have enough  money to make such investments because they lack of funds. A wise person would make a way and saving  money  until he/she reaches his goal  on the exact amount then he would  make an investment to expand or maximize its profit.
We can all do that if we are willing to save, the problem with the people is they have big dreams that they will have a comfortable life in the future but failed to execute the plan in the present time, the present will always dictate the future, if we don't invest now we will not earn in the future, very simply right?

Agreed, to have better and comfortable life in future we need to act in present and should be ready with great action plan and if you follow that plan then you can earn great profits in future.

Its just a normal thing to do, if you have plan on having a good and comfortable future then you must act and do whatever it takes in the present so that you would achieve that goal because  if you planned a certain thing but you have no action then it would be useless.
Exactly, because that is our dream to be rich in the future so we should be more responsible now and do hard work with our current job so by the time we will be promoted we will receive a bigger salary and we can save more.

It really depends on our action on how to build up in the present . We should do hard work and time and effort so that we would be successful in the future years.  When you are already earning enough to make a savings then dont forget to save.
9119  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: August 14, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
Bitcoin is recovering from bitfinex issue, and those should end on this month, and the current price for sure is the whales forcing it to keep lower soo they can make easy income. Bitcoin will and must readjust its value till end the year.

That could be right. I think the price is kept low so that the whales can accumulate more bitcoin at present.

that is right, the price was kept low with all the big sell walls that whales put up back when it was rising, you could see it at big exchanges at the time. and now everybody seem to be happy about this price because they can buy at a low price and accumulate more.

These things is expected to be happen, some may panic selling there coins because  they see the bitcoins price drop drastically but for sure whales  would put up back as you said. Moslt of the bitcoin earners or investors would see this pricedrop as an opportunity to buy more.
9120  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: August 14, 2016, 08:03:42 AM
Bitcoin is very complicated as we never know what is the best time to sell, if price goes higher we expect it will go much higher but suddenly it falls back and we miss the opportunity to make profits.

Exactly. And that is the reason why someone should not sell all his coins at once and he should also not hold all the coins he has, he should just sell some of them when he see a good price and hold the others for next time because it might grow higher or it might drop again, so just make some profit and keep some for making more profits later on.

Yeah that is the right thing to do, sell it when you can make profits from it instead of holding it for a long time as you never know what price it will hold in next few days.

All must sell or buy bitcoin in the right time in which this situation would make an impact on bitcoins price it would  make the price move and doesnt  stable its price for a long time. If theres a huge drop on bitcoins price then theres a problem  it might  those coins are sold for a cheaper price  but others sees it as an oppurtunity to buy more then the price would gradually rises.
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