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9101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 17, 2017, 08:57:44 AM
I have been gambling for 3 years and every time i decide to quit it there is something what bring me back. Not only me but with a lot of people is the same.
Is it addiction or just those casinos have something that pushes us to keep gambling?
It is not about money because even if i have enough money i keep gambling for no reason.
 

Yes because you cant resist the price for gambling. You are being blinded by the winning and rewards. Look at how much you have lost in gambling and it can help you to stop.

One needs to ask one's own self whether they are addicted or not. There is nothing to hide in front of your own self - only then one can realize that they are addicted or not. Others can only give you opinions and suggestions but introspection is the important thing to understand if you really an addict. If you are then you need to control your playing habits and put a stop to unnecessary gambling habits.
9102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 17, 2017, 08:54:10 AM

..snip.,


That is some serious discipline. Although sites I play at have higher minimum withdrawal restriction. And I would feel like I am just contributing to the already congested blockchain.

Also most likely those winnings that you claim looks like faucet winnings.

Cheesy
Do you really think that you get a good profit from gambling compared to other opportunities?

I really dont believe everything I see - things that we see on the internet and we are not able to interpret if the thing is faked or true if not enough satisfactory proof is provided. Then again many people do win big in gambling. I suggest people to keep gambling to a limited amount and not be too serious about losses. If you feel desperate to winning back lose you are no good than an addict. Also be careful of what you see in the internet because it may be just half the truth or totally false.
9103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 17, 2017, 08:51:11 AM
Oh yeah, gambling is really exciting. Sometimes you even feel like that before gambling, you can't wait till you can end your work and gamble a bit, sadly this is sign of addiction. You also feel very nice after you win, even if it's small amount,  i guess this is second reason why we gamble - first reason is because we can win  money from gambling.

It is really exciting just because I still have money that I can afford to gamble. Sometimes I use a small amount but for some rare occasion , I might be too overboard sometimes but it is addicting for me and Im still teying hard to figure out the best way to stop gambling for myself
if you still enjoying the activity i guess it will be hard for you to find the best way to stop, since sell will should take place to really achieved and quit this habits, i'm sure that enjoyment is the big reason why you became addicted better to look for some extra activities to divert attentions.
I will be only addicted to gambling if am winning all the time, but when you are losing, you would find a way to definitely quit. Every habit can be conquered if you have a strong mentality and will enough to stop it.
even peole become addicted if they are losing money, becasue after losing moey he is not accepting his lost and he start trying again and again and in fact it make poeple addicted to gambling.

Important thing in gambling business is the fact that the casinos exploit the people to follow their ego and not to accept defeat. We must not accept defeat is what most of us have in mind - but in gambling one must accept their losses or else the losses will keep on accumulating and then the person may go into debt. Chasing losses is a vicious cycle and only leads to more loss.
9104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: July 17, 2017, 08:48:27 AM
Not everything, but money is the most important thing in gambling. Why? Since money is what we are looking for here, money is what we need here. When we win, we earn money, when we lose we lose money. We can not gamble without money.
Indeed mate. Without money you can't gamble. Yes, I agree also that in some people's opinion that gambling is for fun and entertainment.. but in the long run money is still lingers on because you will be expecting to win money and how you can play consistently without money involved.
No one will bother gambling if there was no price or money involved in it , that's all we want , we wouldn't waste all our money just to get nothing in the end.

But then everyone knows that the casinos are running a business and that no one is doing a charity work here to give away money for free. The owners and investors of the casino run it for some return and not to go bankrupt. Hence it is mostly a loss in part of the player and not the owner. Still people go to gamble and lose their money - except some few very lucky people who win jackpots.
9105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: July 16, 2017, 11:21:13 AM
What is the prime motto for your gambling.
Many people here are against considering gambling as a earning source. Without money, you will not be able to gamble.
Just for fun type of gamblers, only a demo account or a video game is more than enough.

Please share your ideas on role of money in gambling.

IN gambling, MONEY is the main reason why a lot of people/gamblers are getting addicted into it, and we cannot blame them because of their greediness that's why they are getting addicted into it.

It is true that money is the driving factor behind gambling and gambling addiction in fact the whole gambling industry runs on harvesting people's greed and ego so that they gamble more and more and continue to play. In EV- games luck is everything and if you are lucky you can be a millionaire there. But in EV+ games the profit is more associated with those who have a sound knowledge of the games and the players whom you bet on.
9106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 16, 2017, 11:16:16 AM
After sometime I have learned to accept loss without so much regret. The fun now is with the events, promotions and in dice games, hunting big payout rolls and boasting it on chat.

Even mere chatting is addictive especially to a site full of keyboard warriors. Cheesy

It is always fun to gamble that is why I keep doing it. I dont know how theothers are going to enjoy it but everytime I win it is fun for me. Imagine that someday I can get alot of money by trying my luck with a small amount? that is going to be very great day for me however I know that it probably wont happen to me because I have bad luck
i never think that there is always fun and entertainment in gambling, i think we can only feel fun and enjoyment in gambling if we are making money there. bub if there is no money in gambling and if we are losing money there the i think we feel gambling as one of the most boring activity of the world.
in one side,you are right,gambling not always fun,and also people can't be play it for always looking fun or entertaiment,but i think people can be really entertain and fun when they playing gambling without any decision,including money,they just make fun with it,play with some friends,make fun with some bets and its really fun for me.

I don't like think too long, I always try to enjoy gambling addiction as a hobby that continues to be developed with analysis, income-generating hobby is also one of the best factors in the economy, I just need input seriousness in that and never give up.

Hold on, mate. Careful with inputting seriousness. Better do it easy way, it's a hobby like you said yourself. So, you can "give up" at any time you want, and it wouldn't be a problem. I like very very much everything what you said except the last part.

If you take gambling seriously then you will not only hurt yourself but also the people around you. Gambling itself is dangerous if done in an irresponsible way and thus one should take it as a source of entertainment only. Where you pay the casino owner some cash and in return you are entertained - not the best method to recreation i guess but its the way of the casino. If you think you are going to be a millionaire by gambling - well thats the start of becoming an addict.
gambling is one of the most serious game, it is the game of money, where the chances of losing money is more that gaining it, therefore you need to be too much serious about your gambling activity and need to play it with planing and strategy.

That is a delusion that some people have about gambling and it denotes that they are addicted to gambling. The fact that one can be come rich by playing with their money is itself a wrong thing. One must understand that the casinos are built by the casino owners and for the profit of the casino owners and not the players. If you are serious about making money get a job or start a business and not gamble.
9107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 16, 2017, 11:13:53 AM
If you have enough wiseness to do it, you can.

Actually, you cannot make a 100% sure prediction that the lucky streak will continue or the losing streak will stop.Of course, there is a reason behind this uncertainty. Even if he/she has a wiseness strategy,gambling will not be a long term profit.
Correct, it is impossible to predict whether our luck will continue or it will run out, in fact that is one of the principles of our universe, there is randomness that we cannot predict, if we could I would have unveiled the principles of the universe long time ago.

If you worry about the investment amount on gambling, you have move backward once you see the continuous loose in gambling whether it is casino or betting. In these both option you need to be little aware of the loosing money and need to overcome the failure.


Gambling is not an investment per se. If you think of investing your money go for trading and buying altcoin to sell, they are much more profitable. In gambling if one is on a green streak they need to stop as soon as they can. You never know when the house edge is going to kill you balance and you will end up broke. Then bankroll needs to managed properly if one think of making any profit in gambling.
9108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 16, 2017, 11:10:34 AM
Those people who consider the earnings of money as their pleasure the. They may be disappointed from this field in some cases while people who consider the fun of playing games in gambling will get the pleasure if they spend only that amount of money which they can afford for entertainment

Some people like me are looking for pleasure and some people are looking for money, we cant know what other's intention when they play because there are alot of people. Alot of people are gambling everyday and they have different thing that will make them keep on coming back everytime they decide to stop
People who gamble for fun and to make money have every reason to return. But the most often makes the gambler back is because gambling has become a habit, if it becomes a habit, whatever it would be difficult to stop.

Moreover the habit tends to be addictive and that is when it becomes dangerous. If one thinks that they need to gamble and forget all interest in other things they need advice and help from others because they are seriously addicted. There needs to be a control on the gambling habits of a person before it starts to eat way that person. If done only for fun its alright if kept under control.
9109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 15, 2017, 10:51:17 AM
For most of people it's much hard to accept the lose on online gambling casino every time we got cheated by that casino. That is big reason which keep to chase our lose and in the end got addiction. This kind of thinking is really big problem and that is why so we see people crying while playing.

Accepting lose is never been easy to all of us. We have different levels of pride, there are gamblers that can easily accept defeat. But for some there are that can hardly accept it. Before it is one of the reason why I'm coming back, it's pushing myself to recover my lose and there is something telling in my mind that I shouldn't accept defeat.

Gambling isn't something that can be win only by determination, trying to recover your lose is a bad moves, it can make you lost a lot and it can drive you to gambling addiction, if you have a mindset to recovering your lost, I suggest you to quit gambling before you bankrupt

Most people are a fool, they think that once they lose then good luck will come and they are going to win. Thats what people keep thinking and they fall into delusion thinking that they can win. In the end they will keep doing the same thing over and over again until they are in complete denial

Luck has the bad habit of slipping past our hand in the moment we need it the most. People are always making mistakes and thats why we are human. It is common for anyone to think that now their luck will shame and they will get rich. They may be true but most of the time they are wrong and they lose a lot of money. The only way to control this is to play in a responsible way and not take risks specially in EV- games.
9110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 15, 2017, 10:48:53 AM
You can follow whatever rules and have enough discipline, if you play against a house edge, you will lose longterm! But if you play skill-games and follow rules like bankroll management and have discipline, then you can of course make $50-100 a day.

I agree with what you said.  In  skill based games, all we need is a bankroll management so that we can have control in our bets.  We can sync our bet on how good our cards are and win big from it and we can limit our bet if we do not have a good cards in hand.  With what you said, it is possible to earn money from gambling in the long run.  I have tried it and it is working fine for me.
Bankroll management is important in any game of chance, but in skill based games you need more than that, you need skill, you need to be good at the game you are playing or you are not going to be able to win at all in games like poker and sports betting.

Bankroll management is important in every sphere of life and not only gambling. If you cannot control your expense then you are already a beggar. In gambling one must have some idea about the house edge if they are playing EV- games. Then control the bankroll usage accordingly. If you go in YOLO and  bet maxed then its only a click away from a death trap. The idea behind the bet max button is to make the owners rich and not you - in most cases.
9111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 15, 2017, 10:46:11 AM
After sometime I have learned to accept loss without so much regret. The fun now is with the events, promotions and in dice games, hunting big payout rolls and boasting it on chat.

Even mere chatting is addictive especially to a site full of keyboard warriors. Cheesy

It is always fun to gamble that is why I keep doing it. I dont know how theothers are going to enjoy it but everytime I win it is fun for me. Imagine that someday I can get alot of money by trying my luck with a small amount? that is going to be very great day for me however I know that it probably wont happen to me because I have bad luck
i never think that there is always fun and entertainment in gambling, i think we can only feel fun and enjoyment in gambling if we are making money there. bub if there is no money in gambling and if we are losing money there the i think we feel gambling as one of the most boring activity of the world.
in one side,you are right,gambling not always fun,and also people can't be play it for always looking fun or entertaiment,but i think people can be really entertain and fun when they playing gambling without any decision,including money,they just make fun with it,play with some friends,make fun with some bets and its really fun for me.

I don't like think too long, I always try to enjoy gambling addiction as a hobby that continues to be developed with analysis, income-generating hobby is also one of the best factors in the economy, I just need input seriousness in that and never give up.

Hold on, mate. Careful with inputting seriousness. Better do it easy way, it's a hobby like you said yourself. So, you can "give up" at any time you want, and it wouldn't be a problem. I like very very much everything what you said except the last part.

If you take gambling seriously then you will not only hurt yourself but also the people around you. Gambling itself is dangerous if done in an irresponsible way and thus one should take it as a source of entertainment only. Where you pay the casino owner some cash and in return you are entertained - not the best method to recreation i guess but its the way of the casino. If you think you are going to be a millionaire by gambling - well thats the start of becoming an addict.
9112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: July 15, 2017, 10:42:40 AM
As i know gambling is all about luck and how to control my greed, except sportbetting (of course need skill and strategy).

I have experience in gambling (casino), somtime i hit big only with faucet or free money and i can withdraw from that. but because my greed i always want more and more, then i'll come again with my money as bankroll. Bet more and hope win more, but because of that i'll lose my money little by little and usually i'll stop after my bankroll to be "0". I call that with greed.
Anyone here have any suggestion to control my greed? Let me know.

i suggest you to lean on the other side of life.there are many ways to be busy to forget gambling in a short time.but on the other side it is only you who can decide.its not me not the others.

no one but the person itself can derive what he wanted to do with his life, controlling greed have its own way with the different personality of the
players/gamblers for the sake of this argument i guess we should treat this from our own way doing it with self willingness would beneficial to
us and by doing much practice from one settings to another will really help us to control it.

I agree with you mate. Only the person itself can control his own greed. Some people will give you feedback or suggestions but at the end it will only be you who controls it. You will turn against grred once you will experience it and that may change your point of view in gambling once you start losing and left nothing.

In many cases the greed may not be the driving factor as well. Someone may be forced to gamble because they have no other method to earn money. They need food to survive and maybe gambling is the only way to earn for them. But the the majority of gamblers gamble due to competition with other gamblers and greed. These competitions are started by the casino itself and is a very good method to exploit  addicted gamblers.
9113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: July 14, 2017, 09:57:57 AM
Always start with a small amount of capital.

If you used to gamble with bigger amount of capital when you gamble, greed will start to come out if you are holding bigger amount.

But if you'll maintain to hold smaller value of capital, you're good.

You are thinking gambling to be an investment - it is not so and should not be considered as such. Casino bankroll investment is a good thing to do but gambling is totally different.

Whatever balance you gamble with (one you refer to as capital) - you cannot beat an EV- game. So the thing is that you must stop early and not chase losses. If losses are high just accept then and move one.

In EV+ games you can gain knowledge and skills first before you play. Luck is not the only determining factor here and so you can get an edge if you are making educated guesses.
9114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 14, 2017, 09:53:54 AM
After sometime I have learned to accept loss without so much regret. The fun now is with the events, promotions and in dice games, hunting big payout rolls and boasting it on chat.

Even mere chatting is addictive especially to a site full of keyboard warriors. Cheesy

It is always fun to gamble that is why I keep doing it. I dont know how theothers are going to enjoy it but everytime I win it is fun for me. Imagine that someday I can get alot of money by trying my luck with a small amount? that is going to be very great day for me however I know that it probably wont happen to me because I have bad luck
i never think that there is always fun and entertainment in gambling, i think we can only feel fun and enjoyment in gambling if we are making money there. bub if there is no money in gambling and if we are losing money there the i think we feel gambling as one of the most boring activity of the world.

The fact that gambling attracts attention is that it has some money making abilities for the players. But there are methods to lose more than what you can win in gambling. Do people really give away jackpots for free? There are people who are fooled by such ads and they should be ashamed of themselves because they cant control their greed and they fall for that trap. If gambling was profitable then everyone would have gambled and not worked hard to earn money.
9115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 14, 2017, 09:50:07 AM
I really doubt that it is possible in long term. Yes, there are numerous poker players who win often and a lot, but much much more other people who are losing their money.

The only way to be profitable in long term is ownership of casino company or poker rooms
Probably the one who is losing are the ones where the money comes from the players win and the casino is happy from that because they earn something from the loss of somebody. In the long run, the casino always wins and there is nothing you could do about it.
I guess not all the time that casinos always wins in a long run because there are gambler that wins and hit a jackpot so that gambler wins and not the casinos.

You see most gamblers who end up winning jackpots are all ready addicted to the gambling games. Either they will still gamble with that won money and end up losing that as well hoping for more jackpots which is rare Or they will waste it on some other game because they are too ecstatic because of their win. The casino owners dont like it when someone wins a casino that is why they send provocative messages to them hoping to make them greedy to gamble with that won amount again so as to make them lose.
9116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 14, 2017, 09:46:32 AM
I agree that is gambling addiction because you play gamble to make more income even though you lose a lot of money or bitcoin. In addition to that, I think why some people coming back in gambling sites I guess they really want to withdraw all money that they lose in gambling. However, the main reasons that keeps you coming back is gain a lot of money because you know that gambling will help you to become rich in the near future.

It is addiction that will always cause us to come back but when you can control the addiction then it is not going to hurt you. Just like me, I control my addiction by playing for fun with small amount so Im not going to hurt myself. I am only hurting myself if I use high amount to play and lose everything when I play

Even a small amount can hurt you if you are not careful enough. There are many ways gambling leads to mistakes and losses and hence it is advisable to be careful of games and not play too much. Otherwise you may end up losing more than you can afford. In all luck based games if you are gambling more and more the chance of losing is always there and hence one must control their habits.

If it is a small amount that you can afford to spend then how is it going to hurt you? it is just like giving away some money to the poor guy on the street, it wont make you poor and it is the same thing that I did. Except that I gave my money away to the site operator everytime I play on the site

Honestly speaking I really care about every penny I earn because I am poor and dont like to waste money at all. Even a single pence I try to use that in any savings method of add it to my piggy bank. If I can then I save then up so I can invest it later on. However everyone doe not have the similar idea about money and to many people money is earn to waste so for them it may seem awkward.
9117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 13, 2017, 10:07:47 AM
I agree that is gambling addiction because you play gamble to make more income even though you lose a lot of money or bitcoin. In addition to that, I think why some people coming back in gambling sites I guess they really want to withdraw all money that they lose in gambling. However, the main reasons that keeps you coming back is gain a lot of money because you know that gambling will help you to become rich in the near future.

It is addiction that will always cause us to come back but when you can control the addiction then it is not going to hurt you. Just like me, I control my addiction by playing for fun with small amount so Im not going to hurt myself. I am only hurting myself if I use high amount to play and lose everything when I play

Even a small amount can hurt you if you are not careful enough. There are many ways gambling leads to mistakes and losses and hence it is advisable to be careful of games and not play too much. Otherwise you may end up losing more than you can afford. In all luck based games if you are gambling more and more the chance of losing is always there and hence one must control their habits.
9118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 13, 2017, 10:05:36 AM
no gambling can be profitable in the long run, trust me, i have been there, u win big now, you will lose bigger latter

What is the player is cunning enough and understands that gambling more and more means more losses than wins and hence they plan to stop on their green streak and never to gamble again? This is done by many players but the fact is that person is tempted to waste more money in gambling even after the big win. If they are able to stop gambling once and for all then they are with a net profit and thus they have actually gained something.
9119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 13, 2017, 10:01:58 AM

There is always an opportunity to earn more in gambling if you just play and continue what you do and be honest on what you can do. I do not feel contended whenever I gamble because I don't feel something that is missing with me, it's just me and who I am is just a chill gambler and just up for entertainment.

After sometime I have learned to accept loss without so much regret. The fun now is with the events, promotions and in dice games, hunting big payout rolls and boasting it on chat.

Even mere chatting is addictive especially to a site full of keyboard warriors. Cheesy

Those events are only meant to bring more profits to the casinos and in other words make more players enjoy the game. But that is just a cover up because the casinos want to recruit potential gamblers from the people and ruin their lives. If you dont get addicted to it then its good but the fact is most people have a mindset where losses only lead them to make more bets and get addicted.
9120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: July 13, 2017, 09:58:58 AM
You can't control your greed when you let your emotion play. For example if you win a lot of btc you will said to yourself that it's time to stop now but your mind will continue playing and expecting to profit again but in the end you will lose. If you want to control your greed you must have stick to your guts. If you want to stop playing then you must do it, you must implement it and no more bets.

I suggest let the job done by a bot. You set your bot stop limit on loss and stop limit after getting a particular amount of profit too. No human hands means no mistake Cheesy

You must be f-ing insane. What you plan on doing? a robot to all stuff for you. Are you seriously that lazy? Remember that the human brain is what is powering the robot and hence it cannot overcome what has been programmed into it. In case you think no human hands mans no loss, you are welcome to try but there will only be more losses than what the human would have done. All those bots are just made to make people gamble and not save then from losses. If that was the case then the bots be free rather the developers of the bots would become millionaires.
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