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9121  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: October 09, 2016, 10:23:15 AM
Bank and bitcoin have advantages and disadvantages of its own. to save money cash me, I prefer to Bank because guaranteed very safe to invest I prefer bitcoin because bitcoin very promising to be used to invest
For now that is the best way on how to treat our money, we cannot really rely on bitcoin wallet for our savings as that is very risky, there is no insurance at all and we cannot determine that the future of bitcoin will succeed although looking good IMO.

It is good to be safe than sorry, so put your money in the bank for savings so you will not regret.
9122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 09, 2016, 10:19:23 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers vs Philadelphia 76ers also I am having same thought about this match. I would prefer -10.5 @2.60 for Cleveland cavaliers in this upcoming match of preseason. The margin of point isn't going to be lesser than previous game in my opinion. At least chances are very good with this option.
Your bet just lose, this is a no brainer game for me because the line is too low (-6.5) in favor of the cavaliers at home against a shitty team, this was a trap and you fall for it, I won the game actually but not on the point spread although sixers covered. I bet on the sixers total and hit it.
I wish fading the public always work that way but sports book are also smart, they made a good line to make a trap on the bettors. Anyway, good game for the bulls and the knicks, they both get a win today.
9123  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 09, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
With 10 Bitcoins I could do a lot of things. I would cover some debts and some amount I would invest to get some further income. Maybe in altcoins or trading, maybe buying some shares. Or I would think about investing in my own business. Part of it I would save for rainy days or wait for the price to go up big time so I can sell and earn.
If I have that amount I will not use a certain portion to pay my debts, I need to put in mind that it is the capital given to me or entrusted to me so I need to make a way to grow that amount and with different opportunities here online, it would be easy for me to grow that amount.
9124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 09, 2016, 10:12:51 AM
gambling one day never makes me happy because gambling has given me a lot of money one day .but also never made me lose all the money I had. we can only conclude gambling on the day of the incident.
so after what the results bring you mate ? if we are talking about big wins or big losses maybe you are correct but if we are dealing with everyday gambling or addiction it will surely wrecked our life in the long run.
Gambling daily is not good because you will be addicted and with the chance of winning that will become lower and lower, you will not enjoy gambling on that situation and will end up blaming gambling for your failure in life.
That is no question a big addiction on the part of the gambler, I think no one can gamble in a daily basis because it would be easy for him to wipe out his entire bankroll gambling daily, we know gambling has ups and downs and we might feel mixed emotions that will lead to doing all in.
9125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 09, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
just for have fun and for use relax time i think

You are right just have fun and relax and only spend what you can afford to lose.  Because i guess  the common  problem that gamblers are facing right now is that most of them gamble to earn so they become stressed instead.

I have been gambling for quite awhile already and I am practicing an emotionless way of gambling and it proves that I get not that stress because when I lost a session, I just go ahead for another session - those losses are part of the calculations and if the odds is in your favor, then you will emerge as victorious against the casinos.. You win some, you lose some.

But we both know that most of us do thinks like you does, even if they tried on they just cant i believe that you have already mastered self control well i guess through your experience

yeah experience definitely will be your better teacher when gambling. though there are people who even at the beginning have self control already to make sure they don't gamble beyond their means and just try to enjoy gambling with what they have. i think this is an intelligent way to gamble.
Lucky for them if they have already a self control so they will not lose more money in gambling. But for others although they have been playing for a long time, they cannot learn how to discipline themselves in gambling that is why they keep losing in the long run.
I think that is already called a skills in gambling, with good discipline they will not lose big in gambling and they will enjoy. To be honest I was one of the gamblers who have lack of self control and I really blame my self when I am in gambling and I do chase my loses, but somehow I learn my lessons and started to have a little control.
9126  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 09, 2016, 08:05:44 AM
No one here knows how to be rich otherwise they would be rich already, posting on bitcointalk wont make you rich, gambling wont make you rich and trading wont make you rich unless you are already pretty wealthy and you know what you are doing, people who think you can make 100 bitcoins with 1 trading are dellusional. Not saying it's impossible but it's just highly unlikely and it would take a lot of time, years and years
I disagree, if that was right then there will not be class mobility, the fact that someone is not rich right now does not mean he does not know how to do it, becoming rich takes time.
time and more time it is just timing and eagerness to be one, getting rich needs more action and dedications. it is not because you don't know it sometimes it is the timing and lack of knowledge on how do it so as of now i keep tracking myself to find how to become rich hahaha.
It is good to be rich when you start from rags to riches, that is when you feel the biggest satisfaction and fulfillment there. Of course there are many ways to be rich but one thing I am sure is that it needs hard work, and by utilizing your skills you can be rich if you use that in business.
9127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 09, 2016, 08:02:29 AM
no i do not consider trading as gambling there is a big difference between the two, trading is a little safer that gambling, trading always give you a chance of recovery, while gambling do not give you any chance of recovery.

But trading is still a zero sum game, meaning that someone's profit is another man's loss. So it's not safer than gambling by default, in fact you need a lot of experience and knowledge and even some talent to be able to trade successfully.
pretty simple to consider trading as gambling , those people who have no idea about how to trading properly are people who gamble on trading , and those people who have tons of experience like a pro , they are the real trader and it's not gamble at all.
Exactly, they only rely on what people will say and just follow that will succeed in the long run as we need knowledge and skills than luck in trading, they are gambling in the sense that they are only on the temporary wins and not consistent in making money.
9128  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: October 09, 2016, 07:57:35 AM
holdimg your bitcoin is the ultimate key for succession. it not only helps to tobget back your profit but also teach you to clam at very hyper points and i belive it helps in our life too so we can give some importance to our close one's too
Holding is good but only a certain limit that we can afford to lose, there is a big risk in holding for the future as we do not know if bitcoin will still continue to succeed, therefore it is just right to put a limited amount, enough to earn a decent income when bitcoin will be the mainstream currency.

that is one of the biggest risk when holding  yyour bitcoin in a period of time but the bitcoin community now is keep growing and the price also keeps growing so now i could say it is something safe but we cant predict what if it will die so if i were you try trading Smiley

You can trade the bitcoin with other good altcoins. The examples are the Ethereum, Monero, next one could be ZCash.
What I see now is that only ETH is more profitable in trading because you ca easily predict its price movement, and I think this time ETH has started to fall its price and we should wait for a better opportunity to buy as the next thing will happen is it would pump again in a short period of time.
9129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 09, 2016, 07:52:55 AM
It's not strictly gambling but I think alot more people have got rich from stock markets that have crashed or a sudden burst in interest in their stocks that goes through the roof after buying lots of it at a very cheap price. For example the guys who got in first with bitcoin.
I will not consider stock market trading as gambling because it will come in trading category.And if we are talking about gambling i never heard any one become rich after gambling,certainly i am not rich from gambling even in loss.
Im sure sure also in stocking bitcoin in markets because you could lose money there , if you want to trade your coins into another crypto then you should not to play gambling , trading and gambling you can't use that in the same time you need to focus on one thing talking about gambling is not good idea if want to become rich work for it work hard and you will achieve what ever you want in life i am sure with that.
Gambling will only give you a happy moment but it will never make you rich, although others can do it but we do not belong to the gifted people who knows how to be rich in gambling, we should focus on investments that is proven to be profitable like investing in gambling sites and holding our bitcoins.
9130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 09, 2016, 07:20:24 AM
I will suggest to stay away from gambling either as investor or as player. Gambling is where everyone keep traveling in circle and never reaches no where in the end as you are walking in circle and there is no destination. It is hope what keeps the people intact to do so. Investment in real life project which have scope of growing is good and right way of becoming rich or turning your money into huge over the time.
There are risks in every money making schemes, i think investing in gambling site is safer/less risky on the long run. (everyone have their own point of view)

Well you have your point of view but what if i know that this thing would surely happens most of the time when some players keeps on defeating the house, how could you possibly gain your prpfit
most of the time? meaning to say the house build a charity? i just cant say it can do that because its a system and if that particular things always happen the casino owner will change his system for sure but for sake of argument he just mention that it is less riskier to bet with the house mostly house wins i the long run for sure.
The mere fact that they are in business to make money, they are more smarter than us so if we have a system that we are successful using it, it no time the casino will know that and will certainly beat your system, the same with the reality that no system will work overtime because we loses in the long run.
9131  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 09, 2016, 07:14:11 AM
I usually buy bitcoin every pay check no matter what the price is just so that I can have something in my savings that I can get or sell in the future. My past experience on stacking up bitcoins is a success and I got a lot from it. Also, bitcoin is a great eShopping helper because it lets you buy things online without that much of a fee like what most credit cards impose.
wow you really maximizing your uses of bitcoin me just saving my earnings so i dont need to buy, i know big future to come along and i was thinking to lend big amount of money and put it inside my btc investment.
So you really have a good amount of savings already because you can already lend money, that is impressive with working online dude and only few can do that, I hope we will succeed  together as bitcoin should make a big part of our life when this succeeds.
9132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 09, 2016, 07:10:32 AM
My reason on gambling is always for profit. I'm curious for people who gamble just for fun, if they lose their bet and lose their money, are they still fun or not. Because losing money on gambling is not fun.
by gamble for fun you may wouldn't get hurt , as if you gamble for profit and expecting a lot of things and it's just give you a regret and disappointment , they would just walk away if get losing money as it was part of the game and it's fair.
You will always be satisfied with gambling despite of the loses if you are gambling for fun.

Everyone should gamble for fun if they do not want their life to be ruin because of gambling, it is advisable that only those matured people will only play in gambling as they have the right control and discipline to avoid addiction.
9133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 09, 2016, 07:07:27 AM
I think the best way to quit gambling is to focus all of your energy into doing something else. Become so occupied that gambling can't get into your mind because you're so busy and at the end of the day, you'll be too tired and sleepy to gamble. Of course this isn't a thing that you can do and become successful with it in the first try especially if your will isn't that strong. If you succeed at first, then you're lucky. Otherwise, look for something that can make your will stronger and eventually this method will be a success.
I think it's quite difficult. we have to really look for activities that can make our activities completely solid. without the desire we all will be difficult to achieve what we expected.
If you will always say that it is difficult you can never quit in gambling.

We know that it is difficult when we are addicted already but it can be done if you have faith that your future is not yet over, you have to think of your family and your future that you can do better without gambling into your life.
9134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: October 09, 2016, 07:02:03 AM
Gambling will be a problem if you always think of this and if you think what you have lose in this. Acceptance I think is one way for you to realize that there are really always a losing side in this kind of game and entertainment. Gambling will never be a problem if you just don't take this seriously.

Acceptance do only happens to gamblers who loses the amount that they can afford but for those who should be earning a decent amount by that time and become greedy then loses all instead including the capital then it woul really be hard for them.
Yeah it really is a problem due to their desire of earning money fast and earning their money back due to not accepting the fact that they lost a decent amount of money.

Absolutely, ive met pro gamblers before and i was really impressed on how can they managed to control their emotions , but of course most of them gain that skills through their experience im gambling world

exactly. i think mostly this problem applies to people who are just starting to gamble as they tend to lose it both when they're winning or when the're losing and trying to get back what they lost.
That is because we use our pride in gambling, we cannot easily accept any defeat although it is already obvious that we will be losing due to the house edge, if we let our emotions play the game we will be blind with the reality and  most of our decision is wrong including chasing bets.
9135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: October 08, 2016, 08:21:11 AM
Bitcoin get me into gambling, because back in the old days, there are many signature campaign about gambling sites and because of that i get into gambling because of it.
I am just new here but before I came here I am already know how to gamble and I am even thankful because of bitcoin I can easily gamble online and choose different games which can give more much satisfaction as a gambler.
9136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 08, 2016, 08:16:28 AM
As most users quoted, gambling should never be introduced to kids. Upto certain age most of the day to day happening gets fixed deep in their mind, this would apparently make them lazy as well lacks concentrations other factors. To avoid such scenario kids need to be kept away by parents when they involve into gambling.
Absolutely right kids should be no way near the gambling because surely gambling is not made for kids.Even adults are not able to handle to pressure of gambling so kids can never do it could make bad affects in their life.So they must be away from it atleast till they reach a certain age.
Kids would not learn how to gamble if parents would not tolerate them.

Gambling is bad for kids as they have limited experience and they cannot decide very well, they might be addicted and parents are making a liability in their family, parents think that is cool but really not.
That's really true, it is the negligence of the parents that makes there kids learn how to gamble. If there kids will grow a big gamble they will have to blame themselves and not the kids of making the wrong decision, it is good to show our love to our kids but never teach them gambling as that is not good for them.
9137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In gambling, Money is more important than knowledge and luck on: October 08, 2016, 08:12:31 AM
In gambling money is the most important for you if you aim for money, therefore it is just right to be knowledgeable in order to make the right decision and you will win most of the time. If you can do that consistently, you will make profit and you will win in the long run.
9138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: October 08, 2016, 08:09:29 AM
I don't think I am that greedy. I play dice very rarely and sometimes roulette, and I'm not expecting anything back. I hope for the best and expect the worst. You just can't make a living off gambling.
You need sometimes be greedy because if you are not greedy then you do not know how to save money or you have enough money so you do not worry about it.
I sometimes have to be greedy and I have to save the money.

Well there's a difference between being greedy and being responsible in handling your money. Nothing good really comes out of greed. In gambling for example, the worst thing that you could do would be to get greed take over as it would refrain you from having enough whether you win or lose.
Being greedy might collapse all your responsibility in handling your money. failing to control your greediness will result in total collapse of your gameplan.
In my experience too, we could not achieve anything by being greedy. I have seen many greedy gamblers are becoming poor in just one bet itself. If you want to sustain in gambling for long term, you should control over greediness.
This is the only problem by many gamblers if you are greedy you will never make any good profit with your bitcoin..
You should push your self to control your self from being greediness so that you can not lose all your bitcoin in 1 day..
You cannot blame them because most of the gamblers are not rich, they gamble hoping to make money in an easy and faster way. The bad thing is that they failed to analyze the other side of gambling, they are only focus on the reward but not the real risk.
correct counting winnings but never think about the risk thats why many gamblers always lose never think of some circumstances.

if we are got many winning then the risk is always forgotten and this is because we are too greedy to win the games and this is what i am do in the past and i only get loss in the games. i realize that i am too greedy when i am winning the games and want to win and win again but the fact is i can not win in every time i am play gambling.

Thats the reality  on playing gambling and these  kind  of scenarios  of greediness are just  normal  which most  of  gambler and players do lost their money and winnings  in the long run because they are  still seeking for more profits as you said   you cant win  everytime when you  play gambling thats  why if we won a particular amount then we should learn on  when to stop to  avoid  loss.
It is not that we should stop fully, while we are in our gambling session, we should know that it is not good to gamble without limit. Always consider stopping at the right time even if you are winning or losing.
9139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 08, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
Not possible, you will highly get to the point that you will lose except if you are cheating and that is not cool anymore. You will lose the excitement with that and might end up in jail.
Cheating on  gambling site would  be possible  if theres a  bug  or exploit on the script of a certain  gambling site  but  its also a rare case even to find one of this  situation  because   gambling site owners  wont let this thing  happen because  if  this would exist they would surely lose  huge amounts. Gambling is  designed for entertainment and  if  you intend to  play it then expect you would  suffer loss.

I don't think you want to cheat on a site to make money out of it. It's completely illegal, why would you do that?

if he want to get to jail, then you could do that and yes its illegal for us to make cheat. i think every site have a bug and there is any side that could be exploited, but its depend for us, we want to play with legal or with illegal.
Cheating is an opportunity as rarely you can see a site that is vulnerable to cheating, what will happen really is that they are cheating on us than we can cheat them, they are smart and we cannot outsmart them. Maybe we have to accept the reality that there is no way we cannot lose in gambling.
9140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: From 5 mBTC to 526 mBTC in couple hours! on: October 08, 2016, 07:57:24 AM
I can say that you are really lucky of achieving that amount despite of the limited bankroll. I believe all of us has luck but maybe for me it has not come yet in gambling, my suggestion is you withdraw that amount and focus in sports betting.

Anyway, congratulations to you.
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