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921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: September 03, 2017, 10:26:32 AM
My plan is to not turn it in to a fiat, trying to keep my bitcoins few for exchanging. Mostly try to gather as much as bitcoin as I can but not nowadays at these levels, it is not affordable anymore, waiting for the best time.
922  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Free Poloniex Auto Trading Bot on: September 01, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
Trading bot is supporting instrument, if you have an expectation trend some how, it makes trading easier for you  ut if you setup the bot only behaving by itself then you are in a very risky situation.
923  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How to create trading bot? on: September 01, 2017, 11:47:33 AM
I would love to see a bot take advantage of price corrections. Every time I've seen a huge run in price, it is always corrected about halfway down (number off the top of my head).

For example, NEO (formally ANS). I bought in at $12, and in the past week or two we've seen it make a huge leap to $50. Today, it's at $34 which is the correction. While watching the graph hit $50, I knew I should have sold and waited for this current price to buy again. In fact, I've seen this happen to every single coin that I've ever held. It makes that initial jump, then the price corrects. If a bot could be coded to watch for a new ATH (all time high), and then sell when it has dropped 5% under that ATH (this is when people tend to panic and sell of everything, which causes the bigger drop) I believe it would be very profitable. Then if the bot were to wait a few days for the price to stabilize, and buy in again it would maximize the traders profits!
This is the basics of the assets world. Every asset born, develop, stabilize and downward. The point is to predict each movement before it happens and this is not easy for sure.
924  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Bitcoin Atm on: August 31, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
Crypto ATM olmamasinin en onemli nedeni sanirim regulasyon olismamis olmasi, globalde de oldugu gibi baskilama olmasi muhtel.
925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: August 30, 2017, 10:37:31 PM
It is never too late !

Bitcoin is volatile and its price keeps going up and down. There’s a group of people fear this volatility and do not invest. And there is another group of people who trust bitcoins , who believe in it and invest in it. So , which side you belong ?

I would like you to analyze why the Bitcoin price is increasing the main reasons behind its rise.
Yes right. Just wait for the perfect moment then buy it. There will be no late buying in bitcoin because we all know that bitcoin price goes down and down sometimes and that could be good for buying and then afterwards it is good to sell or just hold it in your wallet because it will have a profit.

Never too late to give any kind of investment, just to decide by the time frame. Bitcoins is better to buy in different time frame with different costs  to decrease the average cost. As an example of buying each quantity but every week or day in a different portion.
926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: August 30, 2017, 05:06:19 PM
This is true for the regulated systems or markets that demand and supply managing the price but do not forget that we have unregulated market what we are buying/selling trading, so demand/supply is not the major effects on pricing.
927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future? on: August 30, 2017, 04:58:32 PM
As long as the Bitcoin community adopts the technology it rapidly, it will a bright future. I only see the Bitcoin community increasing. We are at an all-time high price and more and more members and signing up to become an integral part of Bitcoin.

We currently at the beginning stone age for bitcoin so blockchain system, we will see much much more thing will be happening in the future. I am not talking about price wise, technology and development wise.
928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future? on: August 30, 2017, 04:54:40 PM
Of course today,bitcoin drives many investors who invest in bitcoin and so does popularity of bitcoin that is growing rapidly along with development of bitcoin users in various countries.
And if you look at this fact it is possible that bitcoin will continue to grow until it reaches peak

Absolutely with you with an addition about the peak point. Still waiting to see the ST peak around 5k then shorting it, there is a bullish level on 5kUSD point.
929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are holding Bitcoin? on: August 30, 2017, 04:50:44 PM
Due to Bitcoin become a reserve money for converting to other coins in the long run it will increase more for sure but fluctuate as a matter of fact. We will have it in coming 10 years in my point of view.
930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: August 30, 2017, 03:35:26 PM
Bitcoin and Ethereum are here to stay, in terms of 5 to 10 years, Bitcoin and Ether will be around. When application for commercial transaction gets wider...
931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs altcoins, will they survive? on: August 29, 2017, 04:39:55 AM
Bitcoin has the capability to survive in the future, but not all altcoins can survive in the future.
But only those altcoins who build big community in this industry who will survive like eth, ltc, xem, maid, bay,
and waves.
people recently really worry about the bitcoin transaction getting slow , the fee getting high but the price itself much help bitcoin to survive until today , otherwise bitcoin might could slowly disappear replaced by altcoin breakthrough with its technology. what i believe are the cryptocurrency world would live for a longer than people expected.

The total value of more than 800 publicly traded cryptocurrencies and crypto assets pushed past $160 billion for the first time ever. As for most cryptocurrencies, I agree completely they will likely die out. It is usual that as 90 percent of businesses usually fail in the first few years, there is no reason to believe that coins have any difference. Bitcoin has the strongest community of all cryptocurrencies and also the most resilient. With the standard of measurement improving swiftly with infrastructures like ATMs, debit cards, hundreds of thousands of merchants, as the community getting stronger it will either become a universal payment system or simply a digital gold standard that stores value. I don't think Bitcoin is going to die. Better to know that where does it stop?
932  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Online Shop that accepts BTC on: August 28, 2017, 05:09:37 PM
Quite a few big sites have already begun to integrate payment options for Bitcoin. Overstock.com was the first big online retailer to start accepting bitcoins in January of 2014. Expedia is one of the world's largest online travel booking agencies, and since June of 2014 users have had the option to pay for their hotel bookings with bitcoins. Also, you can't spend bitcoins at every website or offline store, but you can use your bitcoins to purchase gift cards for places that don't directly accept bitcoins, eGifter is pioneer of this. Foodler is an online delivery and takeout service that lets users order food from a variety of restaurants. It was one of the earlier bitcoin adopters, implementing a payment option for the digital currency in early 2013. Electronic retail giant Newegg started accepting bitcoin in July of 2014. Newegg has chosen BitPay as its payment processing partner for the digital currency. Those are the majors that I remember right away...
933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So Bitcoin is better than Gold? on: August 28, 2017, 04:51:50 PM
It's fair to say that not only is bitcoin hitting record highs, but the market is extremely volatile. Many people have made speculative investments in the currency, with no upper limit to the price of a "coin" in sight. This is not the same on regulated markets, exchange or Gold.
934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How about them WAVES!!?? on: August 27, 2017, 02:51:52 PM
Decentralised assets need also decentralised exchanges dislike bitfinex and mtgox as they are controlled environment, this is an important point.
935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin will survive after 100 year ? on: August 27, 2017, 01:42:37 PM
Difficulty continues to raise day by day.
936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY SOLD MY BITCOIN CASH! STEP BY STEP GUIDE on: August 04, 2017, 05:50:38 PM

On a separate note, here's my thought why one should get out of BCC asap and not to listen to all those people saying keep BCC and see what happens.  Of course just like picking stocks, you make your own decision, i could be spectacularly wrong, but it's something i can live with given the below.

1) BCC network difficulty will drop significantly, it will become a small fraction of the BTC difficulty weakening it significantly and making it susceptible to 51% and other problems.

2) Every single person who has BTC now has BCC instantly (minus the dorks who stored it on coinbase before the split), it's basically free money.  BUT there is absolutely NO - NOT A SINGLE - use for BCC. What do you think is going to happen? people did not spend money buying BCC, its just there one day, with no use, and tons of uncertainty.

3) Majority of the people still have no idea how to get this thing to an exchange to sell it. Once thing settle down in a week or so, the rush for the exit will start.  Look at almost every single instant gratification alt coins, they almost ALL end in zero.  Unless some major backing or news comes for BCC, i strongly believe same will happen.  Just ask yourself, who will be buying those coins? we know everyone has them now, but who will actually spend fiat or BTC buying them?  Are you willing to spend BTC buying BCC  at 1:5? 1:10? 1:20?  there's your answer.

In my view, it's really a race against time to get BCC to an exchange, and convert to BTC, You are racing against everyone else.  Every hour counts.



Some of you can whine about my negatives toward BCC, it's your right. But the facts have proven themselves.

At the time of my original post at start of 8/3,  BCC/BTC was at 0.14 (source viabtc).   As of now 8/4 afternoon, BCC/BTC is at 0.09.

In a mere 36 hours, BCC has lost 35% of its value, meanwhile BTC (source coinbase) remained flat and did not drop (think it went up ~5% in the last 36 hours).

The facts speak for themselves. And this price action occurred despite

1) Many are still in a holding pattern not knowing how to get BCC to an exchange to sell - the floodgate has not opened fully yet

2) The difficulty adjustment for BCC hasnt happened yet.
937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / FINALLY SOLD MY BITCOIN CASH! STEP BY STEP GUIDE on: August 03, 2017, 06:41:59 AM
First i just want to say ,,!,, to whoever created this whole bitcoin cash mess.  Although i dont agree with the hard fork just to stroke some egos i have no problem with it as long as the community supports it.  But the entire execution is a clusterfuck piss poor mess, whoever are responsible for them are fucking idiots.

1) Why would you name your coin bitcoin CASH?  instead of something more unique.  Any time anyone trying to google your coin, i.e. bitcoin cash exchange, bitcoin cash wallet, bitcoin cash whatever - instead of getting to the relevant result you get spammed with bitcoin and cash conversions/comparisons.  It's almost you dont want your coin to be found and want to promote bitcoin.  Why not call it bitcoin iamnotafuckingidiot,  so when someone googles it, they actually find results about your coin.

2) Why go production with zero planning and infrastructure in place? The official website has jackshit, absolutely no instructions on how to actually get bitcoin cash. None of the wallet linked are verified - and even worse it puts people's bitcoin at risk when they try to mess with the private keys on their own to get bitcoin cash not understanding the full picture.   Why would you not have an official bitcoin cash wallet and clear instructions on how to get the bcc coins. Another wtf moment.

3) Only 3 exchanges currently support bitcoin cash trading, so why the fuck would you list a dozen that does not, just to confuse people.

/rant off.

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Now on with how to get and sell your bitcoin cash.  This guide by no means is perfect nor do i claim it's elegant/ideal approach, but that's how i got it done, balancing risk vs result. I will try to keep it in simple terms so it's easy to understand.

bitcoin = BTC,  bitcoin cash = BCC

1) SAVE YOUR EXISTING BTC -  Send all your BTC to coinbase or another trusted wallet. (you can create a new local BTC wallet on a different PC to send the coins, but i prefer just dump it all to coinbase since i trust it and it makes things much simpler - less worry about security).

2) Wait until you have 6 confirms and coinbase also confirms the transaction is done.  At this point, you should have no BTC left in your old wallet.

3) FIND ALL PRIVATE KEYS -  Export all private keys that had BTC into a txt file from the now empty wallet, 1 private key per row. Quick fyi - 1 wallet can contain many public/private keys, and your BTCs were likely spread across them, so to get all the BCC you need all the private keys that had BTC in them.   Below are the exact steps if you are using bitcoin core wallet:

A) goto Help --> Debug Window --> Console
B) type: dumpwallet "C:\yourpath\wallet_pk.txt"   

At this point your entire private key list linked to the wallet is exposed as readable text file - danger! But your BTC is at coinbase or somewhere else safe correct?

4) Go through the wallet_pk.txt  file from previous step, and parse out all the private keys that had BTC linked to it.

Example below,  private keys are on the left.  You want any rows that have "label" and "change".   Ignore "reserve" as those keys had no BTC.

Code:
cTtefiUaLfXuyBXJBBywSdg8soTEkBNh9yTi1KgoHxUYxt1xZ2aA 2014-02-05T15:44:03Z label=test1 # addr=mnUbTmdAFD5EAg3348Ejmonub7JcWtrMck
cQNY9v93Gyt8KmwygFR59bDhVs3aRDkuT8pKaCBpop82TZ8ND1tH 2014-02-05T16:58:41Z reserve=1 # addr=mp4MmhTp3au21HPRz5waf6YohGumuNnsqT
cNTEPzZH9mjquFFADXe5S3BweNiHLUKD6PvEKEsHApqjX4ZddeU6 2014-02-05T16:58:41Z reserve=1 # addr=n3pdvsxveMBkktjsGJixfSbxacRUwJ9jQW
cTVNtBK7mBi2yc9syEnwbiUpnpGJKohDWzXMeF4tGKAQ7wvomr95 2014-02-05T16:58:41Z change=1 # addr=moQR7i8XM4rSGoNwEsw3h4YEuduuP6mxw7
cNCD679B4xi17jb4XeLpbRbZCbYUugptD7dCtUTfSU4KPuK2DyKT 2014-02-05T16:58:41Z reserve=1 # addr=mq8fzjxxVbAKxUGPwaSSo3C4WaUxdzfw3C

So using above example, you should now have below private keys.  (and no those are not my private keys, just samples..)

Code:
cTtefiUaLfXuyBXJBBywSdg8soTEkBNh9yTi1KgoHxUYxt1xZ2aA
cTVNtBK7mBi2yc9syEnwbiUpnpGJKohDWzXMeF4tGKAQ7wvomr95

5) GET BCC WALLET - Download and install electron cash from:  http://www.electroncash.org     

DISCLAIMER:  THIS IS NOT A VERIFIED BITCOIN CASH WALLET (THERE IS NO VERIFIED BITCOIN CASH WALLET CURRENTLY - see my rant).  SO USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.   

This wallet worked for me for BCC, but i am by no means vouching for it.  And if you do download, make sure you download it from the official website.

6) Upon opening the wallet, you should got the Network window.  if not goto Tools --> Network.  And choose "electrum-abc.criptolayer.net" as the Node (there is a whole another mess of the wallet defaulting to BTC network creating mass confusion, that's why you doing this to force it to this BCC node/network, read: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6qyn18/electroncash_notice_how_to_select_bitcoincash )

7) Use the default options in the setup wizard to create the wallet, on the screen that says import private key, put the private key you saved from step 4).  Alternatively, just goto Wallet --> Private Keys --> Import to put the keys.

8 ) At this point you should see your BCC balance reflected.  Double check make sure the BCC balance is as expected, if not you may missed importing 1 or more private keys. Go back to step 4) and recheck.

9) GET YOUR BCC OUT! - Now it's time to deposit the BCC to an exchange.  As of aug 3rd, i am only aware of viabtc and hitbtc exchanges that accept BCC deposits and is actually working.  I am not going into detail on which of the 2 exchanges to use, you make your own call (i used viabtc fyi)

Once the exchange is determined, send 1 BCC from your electron cash wallet to the exchange to test, set the fee bar to max - so you get your transaction in the next block.  Don't be cheap on the fees, you getting all this free coins already and given the network is still a baby - try to get your transaction confirmed asap. (at least in theory, it should help!)

10)  Check on your chosen exchange that the 1 BCC arrived and is confirmed (shouldn't take too long, took me 15 mins).  Once that's fine, then send the rest of your BCC over as well, again i recommend use max Fee to send.  Do NOT leave any BCC in your electron wallet, as it's an unapproved wallet, god knows what security holes it may have. You want to get in and get out asap, not leaving anything in that wallet.

11) GET YOUR BTC OUT! - Make the BCC->BTC trades on the exchange, then once again, get the fuck out and move the free BTCs you just got to your trusted wallet asap, not leave it on the exchange.  Those 2 exchanges that currently allow BCC deposit/trading, i wouldn't leave anything in there. Who knows what will happen given the volatility.

---- 

On a separate note, here's my thought why one should get out of BCC asap and not to listen to all those people saying keep BCC and see what happens.  Of course just like picking stocks, you make your own decision, i could be spectacularly wrong, but it's something i can live with given the below.

1) BCC network difficulty will drop significantly, it will become a small fraction of the BTC difficulty weakening it significantly and making it susceptible to 51% and other problems.

2) Every single person who has BTC now has BCC instantly (minus the dorks who stored it on coinbase before the split), it's basically free money.  BUT there is absolutely NO - NOT A SINGLE - use for BCC. What do you think is going to happen? people did not spend money buying BCC, its just there one day, with no use, and tons of uncertainty.

3) Majority of the people still have no idea how to get this thing to an exchange to sell it. Once thing settle down in a week or so, the rush for the exit will start.  Look at almost every single instant gratification alt coins, they almost ALL end in zero.  Unless some major backing or news comes for BCC, i strongly believe same will happen.  Just ask yourself, who will be buying those coins? we know everyone has them now, but who will actually spend fiat or BTC buying them?  Are you willing to spend BTC buying BCC  at 1:5? 1:10? 1:20?  there's your answer.

In my view, it's really a race against time to get BCC to an exchange, and convert to BTC, You are racing against everyone else.  Every hour counts.

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if this helped you, please donate some btc to 19XxPAWSUmtcjcDFuUhQtbgzwt5KP1vPF1
if not, i tried.
938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Aug 1 summary on: August 02, 2017, 07:38:34 PM
Thank you theymos and everyone else who provided explanation of this rather confusing process to get bitcoin cash coins.

Below is my simplified understanding and also a question based on all the posts i read, please correct if any is wrong:

1) Install a completely new and different bitcoin wallet client (ie if you have bitcoin core wallet now, install something like bitcoin knots wallet).

1)Send your bitcoins from your existing wallet client to the new bitcoin wallet client - this is done so if the existing wallet private key is exposed later to scammers you dont risk losing the bitcoins, since they have already been sent to a different wallet.

2) Get the private key from your old (now empty of bitcoin) wallet.

3) Install a bitcoin cash wallet client

4) Load the bitcoin cash wallet client with the now empty bitcoin wallet private key, and you should see your bitcoin cash coins.

5) Then you can use the bitcoin cash wallet to send the bitcoin cash coins as you desire.

My question is on the bitcoin cash wallet client - many of the bitcoin cash wallet states they are bitcoin wallets? How do i know the wallet i installed is a bitcoin cash wallet or bitcoin wallet, and related, the coins that appear after loading the private key, is bitcoin or bitcoin cash?

Basically how do you differentiate between a bitcoin cash wallet vs a bitcoin wallet? Almost all the wallet recommended on bitcoincash.org describes themselves as bitcoin wallets, NOT bitcoin cash wallets.  So how do you what coin you actually have after installing and loading the private key?

Also what do you guys recommend as the best bitcoin cash wallet and bitcoin cash exchange to buy/sell bitcoin cash, since coinbase doesnt support it.
939  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: May 31, 2016, 03:51:50 PM
I would have been much better off just buying BTC.

That's the truth.



940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Karpeles may be making "Hello Kitty" Items if Prison he goes I kid thee NOT on: August 01, 2015, 12:58:03 PM
i wish it was china instead of japan, they would put those scammers to hard labor camps.  I don't think japan does much, maybe 1-2 years behind prison - that is nicer and cleaner than a lot of apartments in the us.
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