The better long term investment is always a GPU rig. ASIC's are at best a short term investment where you hope to make ROI before they become obsolete. Even if BTC goes to $50K, once the new more powerful ASIC's come out, your S9 becomes a door stop overnight. Especially with BTC, which is dominated by huge players with cheap electric. Even if ETH tanks to $150, you can still mine other coins, turn off the rig until it becomes profitable again or resell the hardware to recoup most of your investment.
I hear this argument alot, but it seems like the S9 has been out for a long long time hasn't it? It seems whoever got in on it is making a very nice profit now. You hear it alot because that has mostly been the case for as long as gpu rigs and ASIC's have been around. You can't just look back at this year, if anything that's even more reason to go with a rig. The last time GPU mining became unprofitable was at the end of 2014 when ASIC's and multi-pools took over when the marketcap was less than $5B. Those with rigs that kept mining at a loss made the up it 1000's of times and they can still mine profitably today, while the ASIC's from back then have long been sitting on a shelf collecting dust. You are wrong now. Basically gpus were state of the art and using current chips. Asics were several generations behind. with the s-9 the asics are now using state of the art chips so they won’t go out of date quickly. My batch 1 s-9 is still working. June 2016 to dec 2017. All ASIC's are sate-of-the-art when they come out and become obsolete once better manufacturing technics become available. It's true the first BTC ASIC's had lots of room for improvement in chip density. Current chip manufacturing technology has reached a limit as to how small it can go, but as soon as improvements are made, as they always are, the S9 will become obsolete just like all the one's before it. At least now you might be able to mine some BTC chain forks. A new GPU rig from today will be able to mine profitably for much longer than a S9 bought today and as such, is a better long term investment. |
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The better long term investment is always a GPU rig. ASIC's are at best a short term investment where you hope to make ROI before they become obsolete. Even if BTC goes to $50K, once the new more powerful ASIC's come out, your S9 becomes a door stop overnight. Especially with BTC, which is dominated by huge players with cheap electric. Even if ETH tanks to $150, you can still mine other coins, turn off the rig until it becomes profitable again or resell the hardware to recoup most of your investment.
I hear this argument alot, but it seems like the S9 has been out for a long long time hasn't it? It seems whoever got in on it is making a very nice profit now. You hear it alot because that has mostly been the case for as long as gpu rigs and ASIC's have been around. You can't just look back at this year, if anything that's even more reason to go with a rig. The last time GPU mining became unprofitable was at the end of 2014 when ASIC's and multi-pools took over when the marketcap was less than $5B. Those with rigs that kept mining at a loss made the up it 1000's of times and they can still mine profitably with those rigs today, while the ASIC's from back then have long been sitting on a shelf collecting dust. |
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The better long term investment is always a GPU rig. ASIC's are at best a short term investment where you hope to make ROI before they become obsolete. Even if BTC goes to $50K, once the new more powerful ASIC's come out, your S9 becomes a door stop overnight. Especially with BTC, which is dominated by huge players with cheap electric. Even if ETH tanks to $150, you can still mine other coins, turn off the rig until it becomes profitable again or resell the hardware to recoup most of your investment.
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you don't buy a 1080ti to mine zec. Its king of the shitcoin for a reason and the roi is half that if you know what you're doing. If you're buying the 1080 Ti thinking it's the most profitable card to mine with, then you DON'T know what you're doing. The 1080 Ti is a good card for noobs that think they can make up for their lack of experience with their wallet LOL. |
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King of what? Overpriced video cards?
Lol  It gives the highest hashrate of the cards available today. In that sence its king. I think the new VOLTA card from Nvidia will overtake this position. We'll have to wait and see! Pascal is now 1.5 years old, should come something new soon. It also has the longest ROI of any new card: 1080Ti on ZEC... Stopped right there. I got my 1080 ti rigs roi in less then 6 months, however, not mining ZEC  I used ZEC as a comparison of performance/$ for different cards. The performance difference per $ for the 1080 Ti on other algorithms is relatively the same or even worse, except for AMD cards. I'm not mining ZEC with RX 570's either.  |
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Yes. I run the pixel patcher because I have RX 480's and 570's on the same rig. The RX 580 dosen't need the pixel patcher with a modded Bios.
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Mining on a laptop is not recommended. What ever you tiny amount you make in coins will most likely never make up for the loss of value once you kill it from overheating it. Much better and more productive to sell it and buy a GPU.
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Getting AMD and Nvidia cards to run on the same rig with Linux is not recommended or easy to do. On Windows 10 v1709 Fall Creators update you just need to do a clean install by running DDU in safe mode to remove all the VGA drivers and install the latest Crimson Relive v17.1x.x drivers and toggle 'compute' mode on from gaming in AMD settings. Then connect the Nvidia cards and install the latest Nvidia drivers.
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King of what? Overpriced video cards?
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Check your temperatures, especially on the 1080's which run hot. I get crashes and reboots when the temp exceeds the temp limit. Reducing the power limit and setting the fan speed using a custom profile is a good way to lower the temperature.
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Fortunately, I have never needed to mine with NiceHash, and I don't think I'll start now  I would hazard a guess, that older - frequent users of btalk are of the more advanced kind of miners. 740,000 registered users on the service (at least according to their claims) seems a ludicrous amount of people tbh. Actually, it's much easier to mine now than when I started. Back in 2014 they're weren't many YouTube videos, tutorials on mining or dedicated mining OS's. Pools used to go down more frequently too. NiceHash is just for those that want plug-n-play mining and don't want to take the time to learn. |
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Fortunately, I have never needed to mine with NiceHash and I don't think I'll start now |
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This is the wrong forum to pump your shitcoins. Try Alt. Discussion.
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Cgminer is for AMD only. You can use ccminer for Scrypt with Nvidia, but like said above, Scrypt is ASIC only.
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