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921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 24, 2023, 09:50:12 PM
At a certain point, there may be a need for an investor to delve into something that is certain to provide a faster return, perhaps in a short period of time.
Why?  Isn't bitcoin potentially volatile enough?  What more "faster return" is necessary, and at what point would a person "need" to engage in such extra risk taking, when bitcoin is already risky?
No doubt bitcoin is potentially volatile with its own peculiar risk and returns but investing (diversifying) in other different projects that's not cryptocurrency is another form of expansion that returns made from there can be utilize into accumulating and increasing your bitcoin portfolio, in my opinion a good diversification can be a supportive ground for a bitcoin investor not to tamper with his bitcoin investment at any  financial emergency storm that might hit.

If the money is there enough to diversify the risk factor shouldn't be an excuse not to diversify. None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.

Be careful in mixing your metaphors too much.

One of the advantages of bitcoin remains position size, and if you go into a business, you usually will have a lot of upfront costs and time investments too.

With bitcoin you can adjust the the amount that you buy regularly, and you can also make sure that you have a sufficient extra cashflow for both income replacement and also emergencies.. ..so the mere fact that you don't diversify further is not the same as driving without a spare tire because hopefully you have already figured out your various amounts, and as you continue to build your bitcoin, there may be points in which diversification is starting to make sense, especially if you might start to have a couple of years of income within your cash reserves and your BTC investment.. but how you go about adding other ways of diversifying can be quite varied in how people might do it, whether they continue to buy BTC and then add other things that they are buying or if they slow down on their BTC buying or if they stop it completely...
alright JJG, I get the sharp end of your point now. And about the metaphors  I'll think of something about that. Grin
 
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but it might be possible to make lump sum investments in some other assets, whether it is stock or property or something else (should not be shitcoins unless it is limited to small amounts such as less than 10%) so that your total value is not just in bitcoin and cash.
There's a question I'll like you to lend your thoughts, something about cryptocurrency diversification and since you have raised the discuss I feel I use this opportunity to ask you for a clarification about it to get your thoughts.

Ii read a comment sometime this year that says investing in bitcoin and other altcoins isn't diversification, as in investing in different cryptocurrencies shouldn't be termed as diversification since they are all cryptocurrencies, that an actual diversification of Investment should be in different lines of businesses, example bitcoin and real estate.

JJG, what do you think?

922  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Make una dey careful when trading on: November 24, 2023, 08:41:22 PM
Why will an experience trader that has been trading p2p before now agree to do a p2p trade out the exchanger she has been using to make successful trades. Never should you agree to trade p2p outside with anybody you don't know despite how much higher the price they will be offering.

Scammers are fond of using promises that are too good to be true is luring gullible newbies, never get greedy always use recommended and reputable channels for p2p. If anyone chat you on binance to trade outside binance never agree to it, you will be scammed if you do and you won't have who to report to.
923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Math and Gambling on: November 24, 2023, 03:54:53 PM
School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?
If this is true about 96% of what we learn from school not used in our everyday real world then there won't be need for the fights  by nations to eradicate illiteracy among their citizens at all levels. Show me a country that is developed in science and technology through an uneducated people. 96% of all inventions we enjoying in our society's is due to education the 4% should be that of personal experiences from live.

The gamblers using maths to combine with gambling to make wealth for themselves the idea is gotten from the education they obtain studying mathematics formula's in school and using these formulas in synergy with their gambling experience to make success from gamble.

Mathematics involves a lot of calculation and anyone can only get it right with these calculation by being educated, an illiterate can't combine maths and gambling together and make a successful results of it, he won't even know where to begin with.
924  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's Impact on South Asian Economies. on: November 24, 2023, 03:34:15 PM
South Asian countries such as India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, some regions are economically very distressed.
Bitcoin is an important topic for these regions. Through this platform the foreheads of the people of all these regions are being opened.
 
without a backed data verifying this it is just a speculation. There may be poverty in the South Asian countries but not in the way you make it seem from your expression of depression making the condition look so severe.

For you to investing in bitcoin you must have a good income flow, and for a poor people like you described them how do they now benefits from bitcoin since they can't afford the money to invest because there's no free bitcoin anywhere.

We have Asians in this forum but you can't tell me that the whole of the people of the regions of Asia are in this platform. Neither is the whole of Asians using bitcoin. If you must know, the adoption over there is still very low you can do your findings.
925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most gamblers do not believe they can consistently make money, that's why... on: November 24, 2023, 08:58:12 AM
As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge.
Op it seems you are the one misunderstanding the entire argument about profit making in gambling.

Yes! People can make profit in gambling if they are lucky. What people like myself is debating against in such arguments is when the word consistent is attached to the  idea of  profit making in gambling. Except the gambler is a cheater or has collaboration with the casino that he should be winning consistently making profits each time he comes around to gamble.

There's nothing like consistent profit making but there's profit making but not consistent... Like how do I have to explain this again.
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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.
Of course there are people that have made success in gambling but it wasn't out of a consistent profit making, it could be through a one time lucky big win that became a life changer for them.

The strategies of staying discipline etc etc only help in preventing the gambler from addiction, excessive losses and not that it's an assurance for profit making. You can be disciplined in all ramifications of a healthy gambling lifestyle buy yet haven't made a single win in all your time of gambling. Haven't you heard of stories of gamblers saying they have never experienced a winning before be it a small or big sum, since they started gambling.

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If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.
I don't believe anyone can make consistent profit in gambling. The profit is possible but never consistent.

It would be advised we all lower our expectations on gambling and accept whatever fortune brings on our path as we gamble.
926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 24, 2023, 07:15:27 AM
As the bullrun is getting closer we shouldn't be taken aback seeing some altcoins doing better all in disguise only to carpet flat after many would have innocent invested their money. I bet that many of the altcoins prices won't be rising along with bitcoin when the bullrun eventually kick start, they rather be doing the opposite. I rather be doing my little DCA holding strategy with bitcoin  with the little % from my monthly income while waiting for the bullrun, it better to partake in it with the little you can  than sitting on the fence.

If you are focused on BTC, I think it's better not to think about the outside anymore. Just BTC and search quickly to collect as much as possible in various ways. January 2024 is only a month and 6 days away and the issue of increasing BTC is also being discussed very intensively even in the midst of these uncertain economic conditions.
Altcoins are a distraction for someone that's already invested in bitcoin, it is like having the original of a product and still spending money on the inferiors of it type when you know it can develop fault at any given time as a result of the inferiority in value and standardization of the product.

At first when I started to draw interest in cryptocurrency i started with alts they all didn't end well, the rug pulls were always short-timed, if I had started off with BTC would have had more portfolio in crypto than I do today. The losses weren't funny mate, I know what am talking about. So yeah, it's better to stay focused not considering any other alt.


At a certain point, there may be a need for an investor to delve into something that is certain to provide a faster return, perhaps in a short period of time.
Why?  Isn't bitcoin potentially volatile enough?  What more "faster return" is necessary, and at what point would a person "need" to engage in such extra risk taking, when bitcoin is already risky?
No doubt bitcoin is potentially volatile with its own peculiar risk and returns but investing (diversifying) in other different projects that's not cryptocurrency is another form of expansion that returns made from there can be utilize into accumulating and increasing your bitcoin portfolio, in my opinion a good diversification can be a supportive ground for a bitcoin investor not to tamper with his bitcoin investment at any  financial emergency storm that might hit.

If the money is there enough to diversify the risk factor shouldn't be an excuse not to diversify. None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.
927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 23, 2023, 05:48:31 PM
Mate, are you trying to say that we should also invest in altcoin? So that our eggs will not only be on Bitcoin investment. It is never good to invest in altcoin because you are not the dev of the altcoin, and if anything wrong happens at the back end you will not know. Investing in altcoin is just like someone playing gambling and you will lose your money if you are investing in altcoin because altcoin is a pump-and-dump token, that is after your money. As far as crypto is concerned, there is nothing like Bitcoin because you will not only make a profit from your Bitcoin investment, but Bitcoin gives you total control over your money, no third party will decide how you will use your Bitcoin, and you can also use your Bitcoin to send money to your family members staying abroad.
I understand your point relating to the risk factor of this altcoins but at a point I had to settle down and make close observation into this altcoins and I feel at some point they are worth investing into but extreme caution needs to be taken.
Just the way strategies are applied in accumulating Bitcoin that is how strategic you need to be when buying this altcoins, quote me
here  Not for a long term hold.

Altcoins are most a pump and dump coin, we know after making waves and all that it must surely dump and very difficult to see any altcoins bounce back so why can't I venture into the market at a very short period of time might be weeks and earn that profit when it's pump and before it's dump I sell.

Bitcoin is the ultimate and no other currency stands a chance but considering the fact that just with little investment in altcoins you can make profits from it within a short period of time and still add those profits into my Bitcoin portfolio.
Altcoins are risky? Yes. Bitcoin is risky? No. That is one difference between them considering the risk factor
This is one of the reasons why you should not invest your funds in altcoins because they are pump-and-dump coins that can not deliver what they promise to their investors. Most altcoins are a scam after taking investors' funds they will rug-pull the coin and run away with investors' money. With Bitcoin, you will not experience all these problems, and your investment in Bitcoin will be safe, all you need is to buy Bitcoin with a DCA strategy and Bitcoin always recovers its price.
The word investment doesn't apply literally to altcoins as they are not viable and reliable for long term plan. Altcoins are liken to gambling, so in my opinion it's better for anyone to use the money he's planning on investing in an altcoin to rather use it for actual gambling in a casino, in that case you are conscious that you are now gambling with your funds so it's a 50-50 chance of loss or profit if your lucky.

As the bullrun is getting closer we shouldn't be taken aback seeing some altcoins doing better all in disguise only to carpet flat after many would have innocent invested their money. I bet that many of the altcoins prices won't be rising along with bitcoin when the bullrun eventually kick start, they rather be doing the opposite. I rather be doing my little DCA holding strategy with bitcoin  with the little % from my monthly income while waiting for the bullrun, it better to partake in it with the little you can  than sitting on the fence.
928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2023, 04:45:23 PM

People are cheering because banks got a Bitcoin Custody Licence.  Lips sealed Lips sealed
Shouldn't they be afraid about it? Will you store your Bitcoin in banks? What makes them better than any CEX available on the market? And what about non-custodial wallets?  Sad
It is funny criticizing the use of centralized exchange but celebrating banks to be their bitcoin holder. The rhetorical question is: who are the CEX? Who are the banks and? Is it not the same centralized authority that's regulating them both? So what difference will it make in terms of operations.

Figuratively, it is like the Isrealites (in the Bible) going back to slavery in Egypt but in another dimension. All what most persons pay attention to about bitcoin is the price, whatever that may occur to affect the price of bitcoin to rise is fine by them, never taken time to contrast if it's in line with the tenets behind the creation of bitcoin - financial freedom and privacy - these are precepts that you can't get from traditional banking system under a centralized control.
929  Economy / Reputation / Re: Recently woke up asking for a loan on: November 23, 2023, 01:57:35 PM
I won't say that it's a 100% or definitely scam attempt, but it seems so suspicious. Someone who has been gone for over two years, and his first post today after returning is a request for an $800 loan. I believe everyone should be careful and caution when dealing with this user regardless of how much trust he had before or his history. It's also possible that the account has been sold or hacked.

One more thing I noticed is that the USDT TRC20 address he provided for the loan has never been used by him before.
I haven't requested for a loan before  from right when I got to the forum till now so I don't know how the loan processes in the forum works for anyone to be granted a loan but generally there must be criteria and rules to be fulfill to be eligible for a loan.

You don't just pop up from a nowhere to demand for a loan and expect to be given, be it $1 you're requesting for, be it he's the real owner of the account or not; equally in the traditional banking system it doesn't work like this. And am certain no one will take him serious to give him the loan he's seeking for. Better to be ignored.

930  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: November 23, 2023, 01:25:57 PM
I know about these reasons and i don`t believe that casino will KYC all the gamblers at the start. But now imagine the situation: you want to withdraw money and you need it fast. And at this moment the casino decide to KYC you. And you have to search some documents, wait until the casino check it, etc.
As for me it would be better to KYC during the registration. At least part of it - you can send documents and start gambling while the security check it.
This really creates a very surprising situation for a gambler at that time. Asking KYC at the time of registration would be good for gamblers, but many casinos do not ask KYC at the time of registration to attract gamblers to their site, it is also a marketing policy. But when a gambler wins and goes to withdraw he is forced to KYC which is a tough time for that gambler.

And many times dishonest casinos use this kyc as an excuse to withhold funds from gamblers as we can see from various gamblers complaints. Gamblers should check the ratings and reviews of a non KYC casino before joining to avoid the hassle of KYC in the future.
it hàs now becomes a torn in one's side to convincingly know for sure which is a non kyc casino and which one is not. If a casino claims not to request for kyc when in the process of registration they should maintain the status quo of their claim to the end and not when a player made a win after depositing that's when kyc policy requirements are made known to the gambler, for me that's insincerity on the part of the casino.

 There are people that are not comfortable sharing their data and in such circumstance you're forcing them to go against their own policy of wanting to live a private life. If they had wanted to share their data at liberty in the initials they wouldn't be seeking for a no KYC casino to register with. Hiding kyc policies from new intended users is not a reputable way of attracting customers it gives a casino a negative repute after these customers finds out they have been deceived.
931  Economy / Speculation / Re: My analogy towards breaking the silence of Binance and the rumours around crypto on: November 23, 2023, 09:30:31 AM
Has any thought about where all the bitcoins would be accumulated if every Bitcoin holders have to sell out all of their Bitcoins? Or if does the system allows a possibility if everyone chooses to sell their coins in the crytop space?
just an emphasis on what @mk4 said, for any business transaction to occur there must be buying and selling. If all bitcoiners (holders) had to sell their bitcoin it would be accumulated in other bitcoin accumulators wallets (who are the buyers) . The bitcoin you have didn't fall from the sky to you, someone sold it to you, and by buying it you invariably turned to a potential seller.
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I got this shrinky mindset after coming across several speculations in different platforms and sites about the criminal indulgences of the Binance CEO and his steps off and other (s) out of the industry.
Meanwhile... the so Binance is a strong hold of the Worlds largest crypto exchange.

The outcome of this atrocity exhibition of such personality in such world class crypto exchange (Binance) had got many saying not to trust any exchanges but yet they got their assets (crypto-coins) in any of it.
And there is already an underground speculations that this could be the end of cryptocurrencies.
Where is this speculations emanating from. Some of us will love to know.

 it is to be expected that people will be withdrawing their funds from the exchange given what happened.  Binance won't shutdown as a result of this present crisis they are facing, even if they do go down they aren't the first exchange to go Bitrex is a fresh reminder but that doesn't mean cryptocurrencies will see it's armageddon, the only cryptocurrency that will be going down with binance is it's coin BNB.
932  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 22, 2023, 08:26:43 PM
I guess freebitco.in is being generous these days.
The game on freebitco is provably fair, the winning chances of different prizes are known and the result is determined completely randomly.
If a user has won bigger prizes recently, it means that the user has been more lucky. It doesn't mean freebitco has been more generous.
Freebitco is well known for her provably fair gaming system as a casino with prizes randomly won based on gambler's luck, that being said, from I grasp concerning the generosity @Pawanjain is talking of is how out of their own  volition  they (Freebitco) constantly  throw out different prizes for lucky users to randomly win. A habit in my own lens I view as something that gives the community a feeling of a sense of belonging.
933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Often Do You Check Your Seed Phrase. on: November 22, 2023, 04:39:02 PM
I normalize checking my seed phrase every three months in the different locations I have them stored this because I don't want to take chances, people notion about the regular check of our seed phrase may differ and this could be base on where they are stored and how impenetrable. If not for anything, a seed phrase should be stored in a position where only you alone have access into that a strange entity can't access without your consent, and for printed seeds on paper it should be done with an immutable ink hat wouldn't fade off with time.

Our seed phrase is same as our bank account PIN number for transactions and it is what verified you as a real owner of a certain fund that's why the famous  phrase " not your keys not your funds".
934  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Binance CEO don plead guilty to Money Laundering, Wetin go do Binance now? on: November 22, 2023, 03:58:47 PM
Binance don make correct name and don lay down correct legacy as di best exchange wey don gain worldwide trust. Everybody dey feel secure with Binance. Just yesterday,  CZ wey be CEO and Founder of Binance, don talk say e guilty to violate money laundering rules. E don agree say e go pay one fine of $50 million. and also agree say e go step down as the CEO as part of the guilty plea. And that same yesterday CZ don officially resign and e don bid bye bye to en office as the CEO of Binance, although e still make himself accessible to the company say them fit still consult am anytime at all. You go also like to know say Binance sef don Plead guilty and dem charge dem. Dem don also gree say dem go pay fine of $4.3 billion and dem go do restitution to the government join. E be like say the matter don serious well well.. Now my concern be say, e be like say the future of Binance dey uncertain.
Binance is one of the exchange with the largest trading volume of over $70b if not the leading exchange in cryptocurrencies, known for their low trading and transaction fees changes when compared to other exchanges. It  can be argued that despite binance being a CEX it enjoys a bigger trust level than some Dex exchanges and this is as a result of the reputation it has been able to established, preserve and it's pivot role to crypto adoption since it's inception.

Changpeng Zhao made a smart move in the interest of binance and it's community by resigning from his position as CEO giving way to a new era, and with his resignation some tensions and sentiments that are mounted on the company owing to CEO position  might  be withdrawn with a new phase of business for binance.


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With all the tension and negative news wey surround the company, e possible say e go hard for dem to survive. Even if dem don name new CEO, people still dey withdraw their money from the exchange because of fear say the exchange fit crash, e fit affect Binance seriously. The tragedy and the bad publicity fit make people lose trust for the company, and this go affect how people take see and trust the exchange. We no fit talk for sure wetin go happen, but Binance go need find way take handle this matter and try regain the trust of their users. Wetin you think for this matter?
It is common to see binance users expressing FUD as a result of this tragedy  making rapid withdrawals of their funds, it's a critical moment for the community but saying that binance will crash based on this event is an impossible projection for a multi billion dollars company with such financial details as quoted below (as at the time this comment was made).
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Currently, there are 364 coins and 1193 trading pairs available on the exchange. Binance 24h volume is reported to be at $13,816,296,673.96, a change of 25.6% in the last 24 hours. The most active trading pair is BTC/FDUSD with a 24h volume of $2,056,014,317.23. Binance has $67,542,544,852.76 in Exchange Reserves.  source.
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936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? on: November 22, 2023, 11:40:43 AM


I personally feel that there are very less chances of making a steady income with gambling.
You can say that again!

Multiple times this topic has been discussed a good percentage of contributors made it clearly that it's a No for an answer, there's no way anybody, absolutely anybody can make a steady in with gambling.

Be it in sports betting where the assumption is that with a good knowledge of the particular sport and team/league you are betting on, your chances of regular wins against the house are high  great yet no gambler has acquired that regular enablement with winnings it's rather random and irregular winning times.

Never a brilliant idea to take gambling as a source of income, if you must then it should be a part-time thing among other multiple sources of income you have. There's no guarantee in profit making with gambling.
937  Economy / Speculation / Re: The volatility volumes of Bitcoin is not the Will of man on: November 22, 2023, 10:19:11 AM
The ending part did delivered the message plainly.
The decentralization of bitcoin is what still opens a window of opportunity for us to take part in the technology today and I'll say same for those persons that will be adopting bitcoin tomorrow too. If a circle of men called an authority were to dictate the price of bitcoin a whole lot of people wouldn't have be able to get onboard as they would have as many times as they want manipulated the price to their gain frustrating new interested coiners.

With the divisibility of bitcoin anyone can accumulate at their own speed based on their income flow without panic. On the brighter side the next halving circle for anyone that is buying now can bring them some profits which makes them not late compared to those that will be buying after the halving, by then the price would have been twice what it is now.
938  Local / Politics and society (Naija) / Re: This idea go reduce our daily expenses. on: November 21, 2023, 11:15:07 PM
If you think about economizing the utilization of the mobile machines used, what of putting into consideration their maintenance demands as well, i think that the best solution is to cut short every unnecessary means to which we move out and engaged doing other things that doesn't matters at all, this will help us to think deep before taking a step and how to plan adequately for us to be able to save time and money that would have been wasted or used in going after unnecessary things we can actually do without, some will through this learn alot of lessons.
I am tying the knot with what you have said, the purchase of the motorcycle doesn't mean you are going to save from much spending, before we buy anything machine we should take into consideration the cost of maintainance and the necessity of it. How often do you go out? How long is the distance you cover going to work each day?

There are unnecessary movements we make that can be terminated and it will save us money that we would have spend on transportation only. Someone jokingly said, " for this Port Harcourt just the decision to step outside alone nah 5k", it sounds funny but it's a fact. If we can cut some outings, visits, and journeys we frequently make particularly the ones that can be avoided it will save us cost in transport alone. The Nigeria of yesterday is not the one of today.
939  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2023, 03:31:14 PM
DCA strategy be damned, now is the time to fill your bags. Anyone left straggling
behind after the ETF approval news comes out has only themselves to blame.

What if someone had been DCAing to the max for the past 4-6 years, and such person might not really have any extra cash to throw towards bitcoin, and probably such person is already doing pretty good, even if some of their coins were bought in 2021 and early 2022 at higher prices than current prices.
Like you had said, "such a person is doing pretty good", to have been DCAing for that number of years without fail. If I was in that position I won't get worked up buy relax and be doing maintainance on my Investment waiting for the ATH.

There can be a lot of variation in the situation of others, and even someone who had been aggressively investing in bitcoin for the past 4-6 years might not feel like s/he has enough BTC, especially if such person might have been in college (or high school) during some of those years and might not have had a high income, and even if someone who were to leave college (or high school) and start to earn a decent income, it still could take more than 4 years just to invest a whole year's salary.. that is even with 25% per year of the salary put aside it could take 4 years to get to a full year's salary saved/invested, but surely such a person who had been investing aggressively in bitcoin for that 4-6 years would still be much better off than the otherwise similarly situated person who either had not been investing into BTC as long and/or had not been being somewhat aggressive about it.
I agree with you about the variations that exist. Nevertheless, there are antecedents to consider while proposing an aggressive Investment up to a 25% of ones income into bitcoin.

Some with a lofty income but occupied with other responsibilities entangled on him that demands money it is unlikely that he will be capable to make such percentage even after 4 or 6 years invested in bitcoin, and for a college student it is a worse case scenario to assume that they can invest what should be said to be enough BTC as a student.

Or?  maybe you are referring to the fence sitter who failed/refused to buy BTC in the last year and a half or so while prices were mostly lower than the current price and perhaps the last year and a half had prices lower than where we might be going.  Perhaps? perhaps?
This group of persons are the ones that are to have themselves to be blamed when the ETF had finally been approved and bitcoin price surge as a result. For this group there's nothing in the chart for them and just like those that had regrets back in 2021 when the last ATH took place the regrets of those now will be double with the eventual approval of the ETF by or before 2024.

There are a lot of those kinds of fence sitting people, and most of them are no coiners rather than low coiners, and part of the reason that BTC likely ONLY has around 1% world adoption at best is that an overwhelming majority of the world are not acting to get started in bitcoin for potentially a variety of reasons even if they might know about it or they might have varying level of knowledge of it that might be misinformed and guided by misinformation/disinformation.  

I tend to get bothered by those assertions proclaiming either that a vast majority of the world knows what bitcoin is, which surely is not very likely to be true because if the vast majority of the world were to know what bitcoin is, then we would have way higher levels of adoption and way higher BTC prices, and so in some sense, that is o.k. for those of us who might still be accumulating BTC and getting some value from being able to stack sats at prices that are relatively lower than what they should be and what they likely are going to be as more and more of the world's population both becomes enlightened about bitcoin and starts to act to stack some sats and maybe even trying to get 1% at minimum of their investment portfolio in bitcoin and surely the more aggressive ones will shoot for investing up to 25% of their income into bitcoin, which surely can be difficult to achieve without also having good cashflow (and expenses) management systems in place.
Majority take it that it is whatever the government is backing that it is genuine thing to be part of without fears, and so for their government not giving bitcoin that support that they had been on the watch for they get skeptical about it. The restrictions and ban policies faced by bitcoin from different countries of the world is part of what is affecting the (increased global) adoption of bitcoin. For those who have heard/knew about it are skeptical to take part and for some others they have no clue of it and are not interested to get enlightened about it because their government doesn't approve of it in their country.

However, the number of adoption all over the globe is not that bad only that the number is not as much as many bitcoiners are exaggerating it. And it's pretty much to note that a greater percentage of entire bitcoiners are people with not much soaring income flow that could have 25% of their income  invested in bitcoin even if they chose to go aggressive about it.
940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler's family action. on: November 21, 2023, 01:56:39 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Money is like a child you have to train it well to have a good profit from it. When you often put or spend your money in the wrong places no matter how abundant the money is it will eventually finish and you go bankrupt and next step in maintaining that elevated standard of a lifestyle is by auctioning a few valuable properties you have, and many gamblers are hooked in this nest.

Silly when I see gamblers spend their winning money anyhow and when you attempt talking to them about it they tell you that they're going to have another win again so let them spend this very one, forgetting that there are some gamblers like them in the queue for luck waiting for their own turn to have a lumpy win too.
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