http://bitnovosti.com/2014/02/07/bitcoin-kak-neizbezhnost/Биткойн появился не потому, что в голове гениального невидимки Сатоши Накамото возникла идея использовать p2p-протокол как основу для будущей финансовой системы. Биткойн появился не потому, что Марк Андрессен, создатель героического Netscape, когда-то в одиночку боровшегося за рынок со всемогущим Explorer’ом, инвестировал в его разработку и инфраструктуру, и не потому, что братья-гребцы и инвесторы Уинклвоссы полюбили его…
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http://bitnovosti.com/2014/02/07/satoshi-square-ny/«Куплю за $796, $797, $798!» Это кричит человек в галстуке со своего места над толпой биткойнеров, которые собрались покупать и продавать виртуальную валюту в понедельник вечером. Действие происходит в новом нью-йоркском Биткойн-центре на Брод-Стрит, всего в нескольких шагах от Нью-Йоркской фондовой биржи.
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http://bitnovosti.com/2014/02/06/genprokuratura-fsb-mery-protiv-bitcoina/Использование биткойнов и других криптовалют гражданами и организациями в России запрещено. Финансовые регуляторы России относят их к денежным суррогатам, обращение которых на территории страны запрещено законом. С таким уточнением выступила сегодня пресс-служба Генеральной прокуратуры России по итогам заседания экспертной группы с участием представителей Центробанка, МВД и ФСБ.
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http://bitnovosti.com/2014/02/05/analiz-zayavleniya-banka-rossii/27 января на официальном сайте Центрального Банка Российской федерации стала доступна публикация от пресс-службы банка под названием «Об использовании при совершении сделок «виртуальных валют», в частности, Биткойна». Данное заявление вызвало большой резонанс в сообществе биткойн-пользователей, но пока так и не получило однозначного трактования.
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http://bitnovosti.com/2014/02/05/senator-goverment-report-btc/Защитники Биткойна поругивают правительство США за то, что оно не спешит прояснить свою позицию по цифровым валютам. Но Сенатор Том Карпер не думает, что в этом деле нужно спешить. Председатель Сенатского комитета по делам внутренней безопасности США сегодня предоставил отчёт. В нём исследуется юридический статус цифровых валют в сорока странах.
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Думаю, этот рекламный эффект будет наблюдаться недолго - как только в каждой отрасли появится "первый принимающий биткойны за... ", все сливки достанутся ему. Нужно спешить...  |
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Thank god that BTC-E shifted to Bulgaria.... else....
Hopefully Alex&Alex have enough common sense to flee Russia asap... else... |
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As I understand this, trade with or use of bitcoins is illegal now, but not holding bitcoins. Otherwise it would be illegal to hold physical USD or EUR on Russian territory too.
And what law prevents a Russian to buy bitcoins on a foreign exchange and keep them in a wallet abroad?
At least, so far there was no statement from Russian authorities on the legality of Bitcoin ownership per se. In practical terms, any attempt to police Bitcoin ownership by individual users will not work. Also, there is no law prohibiting such ownership that I'm aware of. However, Russian police is not very concerned about following the letter of the law. They routinely miraculously find "just enough crack to put in jail" while searching any person those in power don't like. If they find bitcoins while searching the house of an opposition figure, for example, they may throw a "money laundering using cryptocurrencies" charge on top of all the others, and pliant Russian court will just rubber-stamp the charges as it always does. |
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So is this the same as when China announced a "BAN" on bitcoin???
No, it's very different. China blocked financials transfers to Bitcoin exchanges but otherwise considers Bitcoins legal. Russian authorities are very clear - any operations with Bitcoin in Russia are illegal. Any company accepting Bitcoin payments will be prosecuted. Exchange is illegal as well, even between individuals. The big question is now, of course, enforcement. It will be very interesting to see how the first known case of cryptocurrency criminalization by a state actor turns out. |
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But. Do you think Russians will not use bitcoin cause it is illegal?  I dont think so. Of course, existing Russian bitcoiners will continue to use it. But, it is still a tiny portion of a whole population. The effect of a legal ban is a serious barrier to a wider penetration of Bitcoin into populace. People are always wary of illegal stuff. This ban also sets a dangerous precedent that some other countries with authocracy in power will be sure to follow. Kazakhstan was making noises about banning cryptocurrencies just recently: http://www.coindesk.com/kazakhstans-central-bank-ban-bitcoin-protect-bankers/ |
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If I understand correctly it is also illegal to conduct trade in Russia between a Russian individual and / or legal entity and another Russian individual and / or legal entity in USD, EUR etc., so in effect this places Bitcoin in a similar position to that of USD, EUR etc.
Correct, it is illegal to trade, transact or deal in foreign currencies in Russia - unless one party to such deal is a properly licensed financial entity. There are multiple bank exchange offices everywhere in Russia, so exchange between foreign currency and rubles is not a problem. Situation is completely different for cryptocurrencies. Since Bank of Russia specifically prohibited financial entities from touching cryptocurrencies, any kind of Bitcoin use is now considered illegal for anyone. There was no statement on the legality of their ownership just yet. |
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http://genproc.gov.ru/smi/news/genproc/news-86432/Googletranslated with some clean-up: General Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation held a joint meeting on the legality of the anonymous payment systems and cryptocurrencies
February 6, 2014 , 16:19 Prosecutor General
Monitoring the situation of the so-called anonymous virtual currencies (cryptocurrencies) shows a growing interest using them for the purpose of money laundering of proceeds from crime.
In this regard, the General Prosecutor of the Russian Federation held a group meeting of the Interagency Working Group on combating crimes in the sphere of the economy devoted to the prevention of use of anonymous payment systems and cryptocurrencies on the territory of Russian Federation. Meeting was chaired by Chief of the supervision of the execution of federal law Anatoly Palamarchuk.
This group consisted of Deputy Chairman of the Central Bank of Russia Dmitry Skobelkin, head of Bank of Russia financial crime prevention, as well as officials of the FSB (Russian FBI) and the Russian Interior Ministry, central staff of the General Prosecutor of Russia.
In accordance with Art.27 of the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation", the only allowed currency for circulation in the Russian Federation is the ruble. Introduction on the territory of Russia of other monetary units or money substitutes is illegal. Distributed anonymous payment systems and cryptocurrencies, including the most famous of them - Bitcoin are deemed money substitutes and are illegal for use by either individuals or legal entities (companies).
The distinguishing feature Bitcoin and similar virtual currencies are anonymity and lack of real value. Its price is determined solely by speculative actions that entails high financial risks, as a consequence its trading is a violation of the statutes both for citizens and organizations. The owners of cryptocurrencies in Russia are denied any means of legal protection in courts or administrative entities.
Following the meeting, outlining specific joint actions of the Bank of Russia and law enforcement to prevent criminal violations in the sphere of money circulation in Russia, a number of specific measures is approved aimed at preventing such violations of citizens and organizations associated with the use cryptocurrencies. Taking into account international experience, commission identified further areas for legal regulation and enforcement in this sector.
Development of the situation and the enforcement of the above mentioned measures will be discussed at the next group meeting.
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Heard about it too, not even once. But maybe Russia came up with Saudi Arabians like USA came up with Usama. Who knows.
Anywho, I think problem is solved for now, no news about this for quite some time.
Unfortunately, it is not solved at all. Today, Russian Attorney General office confirmed that they consider Bitcoin illegal in Russia, both for businesses and personal use: http://genproc.gov.ru/smi/news/genproc/news-86432/The ugly and confusing story of Russian officials response to cryptocurrencies just got quite a bit uglier. |
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