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9201  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: February 24, 2017, 08:34:13 AM
I also think that investing in a casino is a good idea. But I'd like to hear how really look income. Is there anyone who has already invested so? How much we can earn by investing, for example, 1 BTC?

I think you may want to read this thread.

In about three months you would have earned somewhere around 20-25% profits if you invested into the bankroll of the top three casinos. Among these are BetKing, SafeDice, and CryptoGames. BetKing is closing their bankroll for such investments starting December, so you are left with only two options. Maybe, there are other worthy casinos as well, but I haven't seen stats for them yet.
Yes, this thread is very good. However, now the bankrolls are bigger and so you return the money slower. In crypto-games it would be less than 15% in 3 months, for instance. Maybe it is more reasonable to invest into good casinos but in their alts' bankrolls which are smaller. However, then you have risk of a coin becoming woth nearly nothing.
So, if Lavander invests 1 btc in Crypto-games, he will return this btc in nearly 2 years and then will have 0.5 btc per year of in income in case nothing changes a lot in casino and with btc at that time.
9202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: February 23, 2017, 09:20:59 PM
I like bonuses since I already know I will lose anyway so by receiving bonuses I can play for a longer periods of time with the same amount of money, now, if you care about profits then bonuses can be a pain because sometimes the rollover requirements are way overboard.
Bonuses are really nice when you can get them from bots in the chat for example. You feel better when not only you give casino your money but the casino gives you money as well. I think it's quite a genious idea, actually, because gamblers appreciate the bonuses they recieve and then they usually don't withdraw them but play and return them to the casino and gamble more than in the casinos which don't have bonus systems.
9203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: February 23, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy



If you want to win using martingale you need to have a big fund in your bankroll balance because if not, it wouldn't be enough to use it if you only have a small fund in the bankroll. So much better for you to do gamble in the gambling sites rather than martingale methods. By using martingale it needs self discipline for you to win in the games so it can give you profit even you have a small capital.
I completely agree with that. Many of us think that martingale system will make one lose eventually and that it only creates an illusion of winning. However, if we always double the sum in case of lost bet and have a 50/50 chance, eventually we will bet on the right thing but it is very likely that we won't have money at that time. That is why martingale is very dangerous, because you can lose a lot and have no money when the winning bet is coming.
9204  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡ 🎲 🐉 BTCDragon Casino Expansion STARTED!! 🐉 🎲 ⚡ on: February 23, 2017, 08:11:14 AM
Love the site, awesome that i can use BURST here!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I agree with that. But why only BURST? Why not to add ltc, monero, doge? These are more popular and are quite trusted nowadays. And with a 4-faucet system already being implemented in the site it wouldn't be hard to do that, For example, it could be made that one is able to recieve btc every hour, ltc every half an hour and so on. This could  help the casino becoming more popular and alts more used. By the way, is it possible to invest in this casino?
9205  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betonline have removed their live dealer blackjack provider from incident record on: February 23, 2017, 08:01:11 AM
Good move by Betonline, it is the only honest way they could fix this problem.
If Live Dealer is caught cheating then the only natural response should be firing that bastard along with the company he represented.
Seriously, incidents like these will undermine gamblers' trust in every online casino using live dealers. Casino should be the one to spot this cheating first!
But if the casino is in on the cheating then they are just affiliated with the fault.
And thus are running a scam site along with the provider being the root cause because the one's creating the platform have programmed it in the design!
There is more than meets the eye for this one.
At least the casino is doing something rather than ignoring the situation. If they didn't take it down right away future gamblers could potentially get scammed by the same operator.
If they return the money to people that means they hope to stay in the business. And I guess this will really help them. Sometimes casinos don't do a thing with such situations and yet have their gamblers.
But I don't understand how can one claim to get the money back. On the videos I've seen there is a guy taking not the fist card but the card behind it. However, I thought this was their player, sort of, who just gives cards to others. And so does it mean that one has to find his tournament, look closely whether he was given the card he deserved and if not they'll return money?
9206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 22, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
Gambling is always risky because in gambling we have only two choices either win or loose. So it is good to gamble with small investment,instead of loosing all money in gambling. Some time even with small amount of money we can make fortunes by winning jackpot who knows.

The first thing you should understand that gambling is not an investment, but it is just a game and needs to play when one is need of some entertainment. Most of the people use it wrongly to make quick bucks and end up losing a lot of money in it. But if one want to invest money in any casino bankrolls then small amounts also works, and over the time we can increase our investments.

OP meant casino bankroll investment, not depositing and playing games. That's two very different things, as investments have positive expected value and usually bring profit over the long run.

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?
Small invest do make sense because if you can only afford to invest with 10$ and make a profit out of it it was a good investment even tho it isn't very much.
When you keep making profit from the 10$ that you used may get 1000$ out of the 10$ that you used to invest.

$10 doesn't make any sense if you have something like 60% ROI per year, you will just get $6 in a year.
Exactly. I figured out that in a good case scenario one could earn something like six dollars per year which is honestly not promising at all. And even if a casino is popular now, you'll need nearly 2 years to get the money back. I think in general it is okay to wait for two years. But in terms of casinos.. A two-year old casino is considered an old one. So, this means that some brand new casinos like btcdragon or penguindice can become something like crypto-games in that time, whereas the best casinos we have now can become a lot less popular or wouldn't be able to resist the temptation, close the casino getting all the money which is something that happens in Darkweb with markets.
9207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 09:13:34 PM
Worst  gambling for was playing at 999dice.com although everybody said that this is a hack or not provably fair i dont really know why i still playing on that site.. Maybe i enjoy playing there with ltc and ethereum.. Yea honestly if calculating the profit of my game i am loose like 0.4 btc.. Sometimes got win but most of the loose.. I was trying to find other dice game.. But still loose from primedice and 777coin..
Hahahah
Losing is okay in gambling. But why not to use a site with good reputation? Duckdice accepts alts as well as many other casinos. Some have common alts, others allow you to play using coins which don't really cost much money (like burst coin on BtcDragon)... There are sites with good design and low house edge.. If you gamble at a negative-trusted casino, you can't know whether you will be able to withdraw a big amount of money in case you win. And yet I know that if one is used to playing in some casino, one keeps trusting it and playing there even after something happens (like with betcoin.ag).
9208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: February 22, 2017, 08:58:50 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
i think can not help life , just bullshit if gamble can help your life .. because gamble only can dissapear all your money
Well, if we take a healthy person who is not addicted to anything else then sure gambling is more likely to ruin one's life. However, we must not forget there are addictions a lot worse than that. What if one is heroin addicted? In this case addiction caused by gambling can be considered as medicine, since at least a person  doesn't hurt his life much. And maybe if one doesn't have a long time to live, or just needs to fill the emptiness caused by some event in one's life, it is fine to do some gambling as well.
9209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and betting?? on: February 22, 2017, 07:24:03 AM
betting and gambling are the same but two different words. use a dictionary to find the definition of them!
Hes right dude.In the world of gamblers, gambling and betting is the same meaning.For example OP if you bet on sports book its is considered as you gambling too.
I hope OP you understand the point. Grin
I agree with this. When we play dice (gamble) we often push the button saying 'BET', so it is also betting. Nevertheless, there are other positions as well. Some people maintain (I remember there was such a discussion on this forum once) that we rather say gambling when speak of games based purely on probability but it's more of betting when we are talking about sports or any other skill-based stuff. And in such a case betting is better than gambling, because it is not about luck only.
9210  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for Equity Investors For A Re-Opening Advanced CSGO GAMBLING SITE on: February 22, 2017, 07:05:55 AM
I might be wrong but if people aren't really messaging you now, why not to change the strategy? Post the site in your first mesage, tell us about the possibilities this site provides for users, the bankroll and potential changes you want or could make to improve it. And why not to let people invest the sum they want? Starting from a standard 0.01btc. I guess thus you'll be able to get the money you need faster. And maybe you should agree with the investors that in the sum gathered wouldn't be enough to run this site, you'll return the investments.
9211  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★★★ BitBox - Run your own BITCOIN GAMBLING SITE ★★★ on: February 22, 2017, 06:52:55 AM
Okay, this site looks nice just like others said. It's potentially popular. But are there any people using it already? Is there an income there? Or you are selling a ready-to-go site which wasn't in the business before?
By the way, at first when I read the name of the thread I thought you're something like Moneypot or some other platform supporting different gambling sites.
What is your price anyway? Or is it an auction?
9212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling worth to try for newbie? on: February 21, 2017, 08:56:15 PM
Even being an hero or legendary is not even a justification for winning in gambling its always the direction of chance if the site is probably fair though as well as the type of gambling we talking about. For games like dice or high and lo then that is purely chance that does not give credit to rank or otherwise. Any other game that dwells more on skill then a newbie in that game should not be encourage to go into that kind of game whether advanced in age or not outside the forum.
Yes, surely dice is a thing one could try without any additional experience. Poker or sports betting will need some more skills used, that's right. But a person can be new to this forum and btc, but actually be a good gambler. Or one could've played poker with friends before and so he could try playing it online which is even easier IMO, because there is no need to worry about the gestures we make which can tell professionals about the information we try to hide.
9213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: February 21, 2017, 08:45:41 PM
I think Trading is better than gambling because it's more safe. If you are a good trader and have a great skills,  Then naturally you get a profit without any lose. on the other hand, gambling is too risky,without skills and luck you can lost a lot of money.
What you are saying is true in general, if the intention is to make money then I would say that in trading there's a big chance that we can have it. However, as a person we can do enjoy both, we just have to consider trading as our source of income and gambling as a form of entertainment. If you can do both the better but always set your limits and be discipline in doing it.
It would have been great if one just could consider gambling as an entertainment. I can't, I always pay attention to bets and whether I'm winning, although in general I play for fun. Moreover, I think trading can also be addictive and lead to huge money losses, it is really hard to make income there. And there is also an interesting option between gambling and trading on bustabit,for instance, which offers a game a lot like a trading and yet is gambling.
9214  Economy / Gambling / Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG-ETHER ACCEPTED!-The #1 ɃTC, ETH, LTC Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice◄◄ on: February 21, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
My god! The OP has the worst trust I've ever seen! Is it still about that one situation with the jackpot? Then why so much negative trust? Although I guess it would be better if you just payed the user then. Anyway, a good friend of mine loves this website, he likes poker weekly tournaments and I agree it cool you let people really play with each other and earn money playing poker. It is nice to see a casino never giving up and I guess that despite the negative trust there are still many users who trust you. Good luck!
9215  Economy / Gambling / Re: hcoinlotto.com - 0.050 BTC Bonus on registration - 6/49 Lottery game on: February 21, 2017, 09:01:48 AM
How to explain for everyone to understand. Money for prizes are available. The script is the same like in a 6/49 lotto game. The odds are fair. The game won't pay more than 95% of its H Coins volume. Since no prize has been won yet by other user than mine there is no withdraw so no winners yet. All winning draws show on the website has been credited to my own users, which I used to play test the website. Once you win the H Coins are automatically withdraw from the volume ballance. So if maximum prize of 95% is won at this moment in the site will still remain 82126 H Coins. This difference allow me to give 50 H Coins registration bonus to 1642 New users and not going bankrupt.

The script is not generating artificial money.

The bonus can't be withdraw until is played at least once. (That's logical). I can't give you today equivalent of 50 USD for free just registering on my website.

After the category I prize is won the script will calculate the next prize based on the H Coins volume still on website.

The H Coins volume will grow only if new deposits are made.

I can make it to draw faster but one hour I thought is fast enough since I suppose you play for fun.

Bonus money will never leave the website since you can't withdraw it. Once you play 50 H Coins from your ballance and you win nothing, this mean new bonus has been reserved for a new user.
Hey, these are just words. It looks more like your casino is just a toy. If it wasn't you would just simply prove you have money. And isn't it suspicious that those who win every hour never withdrawed their money? And if they did then why won't you give us a confirmation of sent payments? Otherwise somebody would report you in scam accusations sooner or later. Please don't waste our time and let us know if you're legit.

How do you actually play this? All it says is to choose some numbers, but where on the page? What do you actually do, is there an interface somewhere? I'm confused.
Just push the button 'HOME' and then roll the page down. You'll see numbers from 1 to 49 in green circles. You choose 6 of them and push 'Confirm ticket'. Then you can do that again and again (50 times for 50 h-coins).
9216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: February 21, 2017, 08:42:53 AM
I don't know man every time I play dice or any game that you can lose fast or win fast just with a few clicks I can feel my heart tapping on my throat
loool, how about you?
I don't gamble with money I need for something else, so I don't worry much. But I can't gamble without a strategy, because in that case I will worry too much just like you say. Try not to gamble fastly. Do it slowly, so that you have time to calm down. And don't do autobetting. Maybe a strategy will be nice as well. We all know they don't help us to win and make no sense but they do help to keep gambling and feeling good. Although, perhaps this is a bad thing, actually, because it makes us more addicted to it.
9217  Economy / Gambling / Re: CoinDice.pw - Bitcoin Dice game, Play bitcoin casino ( just launched ) on: February 21, 2017, 08:29:42 AM
I agree with DarkStar. This casino looks just like a few others, only the colours and proportions are a bit different. If you have budget to start a new casino, you should try making an original design, some rarely seen in other casinos attractive features (for example, partial refunding of big losses and a big profit for investors), faucet or at least 'play for fun' mode, escrow and maybe start a signature camplaign. Even if it won't be a high-paying one, you'll still find those who'll agree to work with you. For a design you could start a contest with 0.1 btc price for the design you choose. Good luck!
9218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino scam reports on: February 21, 2017, 08:10:57 AM
You can find more scam reports at the scam accusation board. Imo I don't think mbitcasino is scamming but it's somewhat their fault for not showing the rules from the casino or like having a t&c when you register at the site  The second link that you shared it might be the game provider that was cheating.
Yes, I agree they aren't scamming. I read the thread and I guess it is just a hard situation there between a casino and a user. I guess the best solution there would be to pay him half of the money, for example, because maybe he really wasn't using multiple accounts and it were his friends. I'm talking about all kinds of reports, I mean, maybe people get more suspicious nowadays about casinos.
We can't guarantee that a trusted casino running for long years will not gonna scam in future. In everyy situation, there is always a posibilty for to scam because the owner is anonymous. So if his site have been bankrupt, there is a huge possibility of scamming customer.

I totally agree with that. Moreover, a casino can be nice, then fairly accused of scamming and then be sort of trusted by many users again like betcoin.ag. I know people who still work for them and gamble on their site as if that jackpot story never took place.
9219  Economy / Gambling / Re: [SCAM] mBitCasino just CLOSED my account after a 3.5BTC I TRIED TO CASH OUT!?! on: February 20, 2017, 09:54:12 AM
Yeah... we *may* have reached some sort of agreement, which I shouldn't disclose publicly too much, but they have yet to pay me out...
Taking into consideration what they've written about multiple accounts, I guess they're not planning to pay you. I don't know who's right and who's wrong here. Good luck to you and don't let roommates gamble from your computers again. Multiple-accounts are restricted in casinos as well as on bitcointalk. I'm sorry for such a big loss. Perhaps they'll pay you some part of money as a compensation but I'm not even sure about that. Good luck and take care.
9220  Economy / Gambling / Re: hcoinlotto.com - 0.050 BTC Bonus on registration - 6/49 Lottery game on: February 20, 2017, 09:38:25 AM
I've registered and recieved my 50 h-coins. Of course, I found out they can't be withdrawed but I guess it is okay since we are supposed to test the site, not get the money. I bought two tickets. Each costs 1 h-coin. And what now? I guess I have to wait for about an hour to see the winning lottery numbers. But is it provably fair? How do we know the winning numbers aren't chosen in a way, so that nobody earns much? And in the description it is said that I can play online lottery. I didn't get whether it is another lottery or the same one. If it's the same I suggest you make it not every hour, because it is too long to wait but every minute or 5 minutes.
And are there any proofs of people withdrawing money from your site when they won?
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