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9241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy out BFL on: June 21, 2012, 02:57:18 PM
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I predict they will be the largest bitcoin company in 2012 2013, surpassing Mt Gox and BitInstant in revenues.

Given they announced Singles would be ready to ship in Oct 2011 and they didn't ship until Febuary 2012 and still have a 70 day backlog I think 2012 is optimistic.  They won't ship enough units (if any) in 2012 to bring in that kind of revenue.   Now 2013, baring some huge upset or new competitor they will be bringing in some serious coin (pun intended).

On edit:  I forgot their policy of collecting money up front and sitting on it for 6 months.  Yeah your right. 
9242  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: High orphan rate and long confirmation time discussion on: June 21, 2012, 12:48:54 AM
I had gotten the impression somewhere that "most difficult chain wins" meant the hash difficulties, not target difficulties. If that is not the case, the only time that there would be a more difficult chain would be on difficulty changes - i.e. if you had received two block 183456s (a block with a difficulty recalc), one may have a more difficult target calculated by its miner. A unique hack that might make your recalc block win an orphan race (once in a million) would be to round up the difficulty recalc within the limits of network acceptance. Outside of that, if the only policy Bitcoin miners use is "first new block received", orphan prevention would seem to be just a race to publication then, that you tell all other miners about your block before they find their own or receive a block from another pool.

No it is target difficulty.  Generally speaking longest == more difficult.  The reason why the network checks difficulty and not raw length is because otherwise an attacker could exploit the dynamic difficulty and pull off a 51% attack with <51% of hashing power.  For most intents and purposes outside of possible attack longest == most difficult but the code only looks at the sum of the chain's block target difficulty to determine the best chain.
9243  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Mini-Rig Order Date/Ship Date on: June 20, 2012, 11:54:05 PM
Oops.
9244  Economy / Lending / Re: Highest loan fulfilled? on: June 20, 2012, 09:02:45 PM
I would normally not post someones PM to me, but I feel like I don't owe loyalty to the OP, and this just seems fishy:

Please note that I already have 2 regular mini rigs, both at 25.2 gigahashes. Previous deliveries took over 2-6 weeks after date of purchase.  ...sniped the rest...


I got suspicious somewhere around the claim of already having 2 mini-rigs.  

Discuss.  

Wow.  This has to be the worst scam attempt since ...

9245  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't we just create backing for Bitcoin? on: June 20, 2012, 08:49:39 PM
Then when Bitcoin becomes a threat the banks lobby the US govt who links Bitcoin to terrorism and seizes the gold.  The seizure combined with the media reports of Bitcoin no longer backed by anything causes Bitcoin to crash overnight.

No I like decentralized just fine.  

Also the backing would be next to meaningless.

Lets be optimistic and say the backing entity got $100K worth of gold.  $100K / 21M BTC = $0.004762 (worth of gold) USD/BTC.

So instead of someone saying "I am not buying BTC for $6 it is not backed by anything" they will say "I am not buying BTC for $6 it is backed by only half a cent of gold".  If anything it could be a psychological anchor preventing BTC from rising further in value.
9246  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date on: June 20, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Update: finally shipped.

Ordered: 4/12/2012
Quantity: 1
Shipped: 6/20/2012  (69 days)
Delivery: 6/25/2012 ?
9247  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitFloor.com Rocks! on: June 20, 2012, 05:44:34 PM
Any reason why the market depth screen only shows 5 bids and 5 asks. 

It would be more useful if put into separate bid & ask tables in column form which show price, size, cumulative size.




9248  Economy / Economics / Re: What's the best answer to this question ? "What is its backing? " on: June 20, 2012, 02:01:05 PM
Someone has a good quote in their signature.  I smile everytime I see it but I can't remember who it is. 

Paraphrased and butchered it is the value comes from its utility.  It has value specifically because of what it capable of.
9249  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 20, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
and you know that, regardless of whoever you are, the 10,000 USD limit trigger some more "investigation" from Banks and other authorities which explain the some delays and this of course is totally out of our control. An US to US Transfer is much easier... But a JP to US transfer is slightly more complicated and trigger many alarms when it reach 10,000 USD within a certain period of time.

Sorry that is a load of garbage.
1) While you may have convinced your customers that week long delays are unacceptable on wires they aren't.  Due to your inability to get a wire done in <14 days I needed to have funds wired to me from my brokerage.  I requested a $20K wire at 8AM and it cleared by noon.  A week later I requested an $85K wire and it cleared within 6 hours.  

2) While an international wire may take longer it shouldn't be taking 19 days longer.  That is whole point of AML verification.  My bank account is AML verified.  My MtGox exchange account is AML verified.  How much investigation can one possibly due in 19 days.  You have my info it either checks out or it doesn't.  You never asked for more info to aid your investigation.  I mean how many times can you look at my utility bill over the course of 19 days?

3) If my funds are being held for an investigation (which I don't think they are) are employees of your company engaging in a criminal conspiracy here?
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MtGox Support: If its urgent, we will be able to cancel your withdraw and use another funding options for better solution. Please let us know by

Me: Which funding option would be a better solution?

MtGox: Better solution may be by using Bitinstant to withdraw your funds. If you have a account with them.

Note: this was taken from email between me & MtGox.  I would rather not share the original email (w/ personal and account information) in the open but if MtGox disputes this I would be happy to send copies to a mod.

Are you really advising your customer on how to avoid an AML investigation?  
Should the Japanese regulators be made aware of this?

I doubt your customer support is stupid enough to openly document a conspiracy to avoid AML/KYC procedures in a trouble ticket.  The reality is that this delay has nothing to do w/ AML does it?  Still since be both know this isn't due to any regulatory requirement I would be happy to use BitInstant (I hear they can actually payout funds they owe).   I don't feel it is fair to ask me to pay the $240 in transfer fees because you couldn't do your job.

Credit my account the bitinstant fees, cancel all requests and I will take my funds and not come back.  To tell a customer that they need to pay MORE in fees because YOU can't do your job is beyond insulting.
9250  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 20, 2012, 04:09:34 AM
That doesn't explain one damn thing. Bitcoin is nothing to banks. Mtgox isn't even a gnat in the financial world. It's a microbe.

What about wire transfers? What's your excuse there? I wire huge amounts of money all over the world with far far more AML regs and yet they don't take more than 15 minutes to do a wire and receive a confirmation of reception. Yet mtgox takes a week to even start it.

Let's face it gox has extremely poor liquidity and that's usually the red flag that any financial institution is about to go under.

You all should be prepping your resumes rather than running the PR bullshiat here. None of us are buying it.

The rats are jumping your sinking ship.

Did you open a ticket? And what is the Ticket number to check what's going on. I am not telling this is your case, but we see many mistakes made by users when filling the withdrawal process that in some case will make the overall process very long.

I can't speak for him but ...

In my case this is the 4th wire.  All exactly the same.  Same bank, same instructions, same account, same AML docs.
The first two went fast, third one took over two weeks before you even submitted it (and when submitted it cleared quickly in 5 days).
The fourth one hasn't been submitted yet.  

I am not sure if you know this but ... a bank wire can't be transferred if you don't give it to your bank.  That is kinda step #1.  

So the question is why are you intentionally NOT sending the wire instructions to your bank?

Dwolla?  AML/KYC?  Wrong instructions?  I say bullshit!  Hell they aren't even good lies.





9251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen when the 21M bitcoin will be minned on: June 20, 2012, 02:05:16 AM
the 21 million bitcoin will be mined in 15 years... I will be certainly not dead. Well I hope so!

You might want to recalculate that.  Technically we will never reach 21 million coins but it will be a lot longer than 15 years before the subsidy goes to zero.
9252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen when the 21M bitcoin will be minned on: June 20, 2012, 01:32:16 AM
The world ends. I guarantee you that you will be dead when that happens ...
9253  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitFloor.com Rocks! on: June 19, 2012, 10:04:43 PM
Don't add too many decimals.  I hate fighting bots jumping 0.000001 ahead of me on Mt.Gox.  I think whole pennies are fine but maybe 1 more decimal place I hope you don't go more than that.  Like gasoline $3.499 Smiley

If the asset is worth ~$5 then 0.001 as the min tick is 0.02%.  Anything smaller is just games.  It doesn't improve the spread in any meaningful way.
9254  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASICs vs BOTNETS on: June 19, 2012, 09:53:15 PM
ASICs will render everything else obsolete in time but botnets (which are already horribly inefficient) will be killed overnight and that includes other forms of malicious CPU mining (rogue system admins, employees "borrowing" company resources, hacked servers, etc).
9255  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Announce] OpenPay, use your bitcoins at any merchant that takes Visa! on: June 19, 2012, 08:41:18 PM
To prevent PIN bruteforcing, it seems to me that it would make sense to require that the PIN be verified against a remote server that has limits on the number of PIN submissions per $time_period.

Which is why I don't see magnetic stripe being useful.  In a pin & chip system (Bitcoin or otherwise) the pin and secret never leave the smartcard.  The pin pad sends pin (hashed to prevent snooping) to the smartcard which verifies it and then performs some action on the secret only providing the output.

For Bitcoin the "secret" would be the private key or possibly deterministic seed for a range of private keys and the "some action" would be generating a signed tx.
9256  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Announce] OpenPay, use your bitcoins at any merchant that takes Visa! on: June 19, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
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The pin pad would forward the card number and optionally the PIN to a specialized gateway application running somewhere on the merchant's local network.

The gateway application would take the card number, expiration date & pin (optional).
It would perform the same steps the client did during enrollment to generate the static half of the key.
Next it will also add the current timestamp (the other half of the key) and hash it to a valid bitcoin address. 
Finally it would send 0.01BTC to the address.  Along with payment instructions encoded some way in the scripsig.

Am I reading this wrong?  A pin pad that sends the pin as plain text to the merchant is of no value.  You just gave the merchant everything necessary to spend as the user.
9257  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: FastCash4Bitcoins (Update: FREE ACH payout option coming in the next few days) on: June 19, 2012, 08:02:37 PM
Effective immediately we will not longer accept MtGox codes.

What brought this on?
Probably how difficult it is to get money out of MtGox these days...

That would be it.  We rode it out as long as possible but it has turned into a liquidity trap.  Capital goes in and gets stuck.  Even without the risk of insolvency (small IMHO but not zero) the delays are getting longer and the amount of capital idled keeps growing.  We can't continue to support that.

For some time now we have been accepting MtGox as a courtesy and then immediately paying MtGox to buying coins.
9258  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 19, 2012, 07:45:33 PM
Just curious, why are you still willing to buy this musical chairs nightmare off people for 97.5 cents on the dollar?

We aren't ... anymore.  Just trying to get the last of our money out of here.  


It seems as though your post (the OP in your fast cash thread) still advertises buying Gox dollars.

Yeah that probably should come down. We continue to accept it, but immediately buy BTC at market price and move off exchange.  It cuts into the margin but we have been doing it as a courtesy for some of our sellers while trying to educate them on the advantages of direct sales.  I am sure Mt.Gox loves it.  Double profit!

Update:  removed.  we will honor a couple trades still in the air but no new trades.
9259  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Announce] OpenPay, use your bitcoins at any merchant that takes Visa! on: June 19, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
Isn't this a risk faced by all types cards now?

Which is why credit cards are resversible and have fraud protection.
9260  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 19, 2012, 05:48:38 PM
Just curious, why are you still willing to buy this musical chairs nightmare off people for 97.5 cents on the dollar?

We aren't ... anymore.  Just trying to get the last of our money out of here.  

We sell coins directly and use the exchanges as a backstop when our BTC position becomes too long for our comfort.   The funds being delayed, obfuscated, and lied about are only a fraction of what we purchased, thankfully.

Having a steady and discounted source of coins is part of a bigger plan.  Smiley
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