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9241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Sports books on: October 25, 2017, 09:21:34 AM
@ralle14. The only tipster that I have seen making a profit here is Carlespuyol. He also posts his betting slips as proof that he made the bets. The rest are there to spam the forum and making bad advice and betting tips.

Someone should record their win/loss ratio and expose them.

And for worst case, others just gave some tips without any game analyzation or what. Just a random guesses and then if the guess is correct, they will call themselves tipster. Plus no proofs included if they really bet on that game.

Back to topic, yes that is possible. You don't have to be a tipster to experienced that. Just focus more on the sports you really have some knowledge or I should say that, you must really known every inches of the teams and players involved on that sports including analyzation and any kind of related thing to that if you are serious to make profits for long term. Don't mind if you loss sometimes as that is part of the game as what matters here is your winning stats must be greater than your losing stats. It may not be an assurance that you may win most sometimes but having a knowledge in a sports you choose to bet on is a good advantage that can increase your winning chance rate.
9242  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the BTC price go up or down after the 25th Oct fork? on: October 25, 2017, 08:53:35 AM
It will go down for sure. But will not be a long run. for few weeks we will see some sellers and alt coin prices will go up
Exactly, bitcoin price down but not much that the people thinking. I don’t think that the price will come below to $5000 and then it will soon acquire his original price position so I am seeing this hard fork a chance for investors to buy with low price and enjoy it after a week time with his original price but with patience. Professionals are waiting eagerly for hard fork to buy with low price because they know the market nature.

$5,000 level or around to that can be considered as stronghold and by far the great resistance support level after the continous price increase. Since there is no expected events that can pull down the price, we can expect that support level may increase and who knows the current price will continue to experience pump for months later.

The dipping scenario today can be considered as good entry point too. Don't regret if you buy at much higher price since the moment you buy coins, you must eye a long term investment here. Patience and don't panic, soon it will be rewarded.
9243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin from $6000 to $5500 on: October 25, 2017, 08:16:12 AM
I just checked poloniex today and btcprice went don't to $5506.28 so that would be -$500 dive. Is this because of the upcoming fork? Can somebody enlighten me what could be causing this?

Since the price breached 4 digits, it's somehow normal and not alarming if the price went down for up to $500 margin. Just take note of it's increase rather than the margin of dip. Also if you are newbie to this kind of price movement, always expect that a continous uptrend will be spoiled anytime. There is a thing called resistance, support and correction price and you might want to take note of that.

Upcoming fork related thing can be one of the reason but that isn't a major one. This is how market moves so better always be ready.
9244  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bubble or Not? on: October 24, 2017, 04:49:49 PM
The last bubble was in 2013.

Bitcoin is not a classic bubble, but still be 'suspicious,' says investing expert William Bernstein
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/william-bernstein-bitcoin-is-not-a-classic-bubble.html

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  • William Bernstein is a neurologist who became a best-selling author on investing in the 1990s.
  • Bernstein does not believe bitcoin is a classic investing bubble because it doesn't fit all four of the criteria of manias he developed.
  • "Unless [you are] an expert on blockchain technology and bitcoin, stay away. Don't invest in things [you] don't understand," Bernstein told CNBC.

Do you think we're in the 5th bubble?


Enough of this bubble thoughts. Just let different people speaks on their own without bothering us.

Bitcoin gorwth is not a joke. Bitcoin current status was mainly because of the community that supports it. A bubble can be popped out easily that's why I don't consider any bubble thing in bitcin. The bitcoin's atmosphere is thick than it can filters out the dangerous rays came from the FUD.

But on the other hand, Im agree to his last statement "DONT INVEST IN THINGS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND". So for newcomers that want to invest in bitcoin, learn all the risks associated when you invest rather than just expect a big price increase.
9245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 24, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
Ok so Dwyane Wade asks Cleveland Cavaliers to bench him for JR Smith which I think a good move and just showing how humble is.

We can see Wade performance lately as not dominant anymore especially when he first left the Miami Heat. Also it was a respect for J.R Smith as one of the long time player and part of championship lineup for the Cavaliers.

In their 2003 rookie list, I see it's only Lebron James who's still consistent nowadays despite of the status that he's mid 30's now. So I think matching him up with young ones is not a big deal as we know how deadly Lebron when he's on peak.
9246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Buying and Holding the only way? on: October 24, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
i tried to calculate how much would i make from bitcoin mining using an antminer s9, and i don't think it's worth it for me as the cost of electricity is high where i live, which is in the UK (it's 20 cents approx), i make like $300 profit a year. and obviously i can't use faucets as that will take years to get one bitcoin. so is the only way to even get any value from bitcoin is to buy it and hold it on for another few years? but it is a risky investment due to the price. or should i invest in new currencies that are cheap right now and have potential to grow to $4k a coin?  Huh
It has almost the same risk. You buy antminer s9 and doing the mining is also risky because Bitcoin prices determine your mining profits. I think it's better to buy Bitcoin because there are many things you can do. such as trading or investment

i think its better to trading because with trading you can make a lot of profit but its depend on the coins you choose. and I think its not wise to spend your mining for mining because the difficulty of bitcoin is increase too high and only high end hardware like s9 will give you a lot of but not the profit because its depend on the bitcoin price. beside that, if you choose to mining, then you need to calculate about the electricity fee and if you are fine with the fee, then you can try to mining.

It's not always about electricity fees why it's not recommended for newcomers to try bitcoin mining. The first thing it need is knowledge. I have seen lot of people become interested in bitcoin mining but being interested is not enough. They told they will buy mining rigs eventhough they are not aware of the risks. Ok let's say cheap electricity and they afford to buy mining rigs, do they think that's enough and will just give them passive income.

To make it short, I have told them that if bitcoin mining is worth to try by newcomers today, then why the method is not hype today? If still there is question after some short enlightenment to them then the only thing I can say is, "Ok try it and see for yourself what will be the result".
9247  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports Betting Site Question on: October 23, 2017, 06:54:16 PM
Will there ever be a sports betting site that can beat Nitrogen?  I don't know how the rest stays in business because Nitrogen offers the best odds, offers the safest and most secure service and has one of the better selections of sports to bet at.

Tho they could use some prop bets to add some spice.  But still, I'm asking the rest of the BTC bookies, how could you beat Nitrogen?  I mean honestly...

What do you mean by "can beat nitrogen"? Yes they offered good odds but I don't see it as really a wide margin compare to other sportsbooking site. There is no number 1 sportsbook as of the moment in terms of offered odds as sometimes they are varies. I will try to give example when Im on PC.

Nitrogen jbeat other sports booking site because of POPULARITY and they earned user's trust but in some of the cases, their odds is lowered compared to other just like when Im searching for goods for last NBA playoffs especially with the live betting.
9248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 23, 2017, 04:56:18 PM
Have you seen the game, Thunder vs Timberwolves today? That was a great game, the Thunder were down big but they manage to get back on the game but they came up short because Wiggins is too lucky to hit a game winner. The Thunder are already in the 2nd consecutive loss now and I understand because they are on a back to back game.

Next game will be on 10/26/17 and that is against the Pacers, they will have a good rest figure out what they did wrong and for sure it will be a dominant performance.

The last two shots for the game were so thrilling. I thought Melo have it on the bag then wiggins pulled a buzzer beating 3pt shot that won them the game!!
Wiggins got lucky? So you are saying a guy who scored 27 points against the Thunder got lucky? I guess not Wiggins is hot and under control when the time is running out and hit the clutch 3. And have you seen the play? They didn't even need a timeout and still scored the the game winning shot, you can see how Karl-Anthony Towns perfectly screened the player chasing Andrew to give him some space for an open look. The bank shot 3 made it for the team and he is showing that the 146 million dollars is worth it.

Im agree. It's not a lucky shot though. The area where the shot made was part of a rainbow area and not too far away for a usual three pointer. Although it was a quick game set up with 4 secs remaining, they able to set a shot where it's not 100% contested by the Thunders, thanks for wonderful screen by Towns.

The concern here is not that shot but Timberwolves have the momentum until the fourth. Thunders made some slow rally that's why they able to cope up with the score. Plust the last 3's made my Thunder is not contested much especially with the clutch 3 pointer by Melo. Well move on and we can now see that this young Timberwolves is deadly like I said months ago in this thread.
9249  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are the Chances of a Crypto Winter? on: October 23, 2017, 04:24:18 PM
I know that we are all perennial bulls in this forum (except maybe kwucduck), but we do have to consider the possibility of a crash. If after a crash, the price remains low for a long time, we may lose some of our crypto converts.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/could-bitcoins-bubble-lead-to-long-crypto-winter

Eerie similarities to 2013

A year after the block reward halving, with media buzzing about Bitcoin, and a multifold increase in price - this is not just a description of 2017 but also perfectly fits 2013. After the block reward halving in 2012, the price of Bitcoin shot up during the following year. The price increased from around $13 at the starting of 2013 to a peak of over $1200.

The reasons for this jump are manifold (including the bots  - Willie and Markus, which bought Bitcoins on Mt. Gox), but the almost 100 fold increase in price was unprecedented. The 500% increase in price of Bitcoin in 2017 appears tame in comparison. Of course, the base effect does make such 100 fold increases in price almost impossible now, with Bitcoin's market capitalization crossing $100 Bn.


Past performance not always guaranteed future results. The results may vary depending on the current trend and support from investors and community. In other words, the trend in the past is different from what it is today.

Yes there is always chances for a crash as always but we have lots of reasons to believe that large crash has lower chances to happened. The support for bitcoin today is truly awesome and this is not an output that based on fabrication and manipulation.
9250  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we totally eliminate all the banks in this world? on: October 23, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Banks is just a mediator between to two people or companies. Someday people will realize that it is not profitable and banks will disappear

Banks are not just made to give people's profit. There are lots of services that banks offered in order to give convenience to the people. It's not all about saving the money thing and make interest when we saved money to them. You guys need some more education about what banks can really do.

It's fine to become a hardcore crypto enthusiast fanatic but make it to the point that you really understand what's your saying.
9251  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Market will fall today, how to predict?? on: October 23, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
On which things does this crypto market depends?
How to predict that market is going to crash today?

Lots of factors can be looked into why crypto price will fall on a certain period or worst scenario, a whole crash; news, FUD, whales movement, triggered panic, profit taking, upcoming event etc.

How to predict on it? Even how well and good the analyzation, it will still a speculation so in other words no way it can be predicted. If you asked that question as reference if you want to invest or not on a certain coin then I will say that you must take the risks. This is how investing on crypto works.
9252  Economy / Services / Re: [WTB] Phone Verification Philippines number on: October 20, 2017, 06:15:11 AM
The title says it all.

I am looking for Philippines number phone verification.

Contact me on Skype. Below is my id.

My skype id: bornonceagain



As long as the purpose is legit and not something fishy, I like to give you multiple numbers.

No cost. All free. Tell me all the details on PM as Im not regular on Skype.
9253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 20, 2017, 05:29:26 AM
Guys anyone here watched on how did Jeremy Lin felt sorry for his injury? Seeing his layup that was blocked and after crashing down the floor the impact isn't yet felt. But later on his face expression changed to sadly crying one. I felt the pain upon watching that, he knew it that it was a knee injury. It saddens me while watching that part, I hope he'll get well very soon.

Yes Jeremy Lin suffers knee injury in their recent game opener against the Pacers and looks like it was a major one and  will takes time before he can play again. He have a great contribution on that game but injury spoiled it.

Famous names are on the list now because of season opener injuries. Who might be next but of course I don't want that to happen. It will ruined the fun obviously..

For me that has a minor injury unlike what happened to Gordon Hayward that Fractures Ankle and Leg which we can consider major injury of all time in the NBA History Injury. lol But still Jeremy Lin need some prayer for fast recovery like we need for Gordon Hayward of Boston Celtics.

And I never thought that Celtics can make come back on that game.

Jeremy Lin's injury is minor to you?  Shocked Then why he will be out for the whole season? Meaning that is serious and that is a major one.

We are not comparing injuries here player by player but we are tagging it as major one. Like I said some of the famous names are on the injury list now that all happened in their game opener. Another example is Draymond Green during their game against the Houston Rockets.
9254  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are You in Favor to Register Your BTC Address to Trace Transaction and Tax??? on: October 20, 2017, 05:07:05 AM
Are you in favor to register your BTC Wallet address to trace transactions and impose taxed it?  It is a big subject now amongst lawmakers to trace down income and transaction about bitcoins.   This has become the talk of the people involved in digital currency lately.  So, What do you think?Huh

Im fine with submission of my personal documents to the legit exchanges because that is mandatory as part of complying with the rules of a certain country but for registering the address itself, Im not with that kind of idea.

In the first place what is the purpose? Some exchanges have records about their clients respective addresses so I think this is not necessary. Although it might be a big help in solving illegal activities via bitcoin transaction, it will affect the benefits and advantages why we are using crypto in the first place. Just improved the current security measures and that will be fine.
9255  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the Best platform For beginners for Trading....? on: October 19, 2017, 06:58:37 PM
Dear Friends,

What is the best platform for beginners for Trading? What are the main points should be considered as a trader
who don't have much experience in Trading?


Main points will be, involved everyday in trading activity. In that way, you can familiarize yourself on what trade is all about. Actually you just need to learn and understand basic trading information then you can start. You don't need that technical studies since while are you moving forward, you will learn them automatically. Aside from that, a regular interaction on trades will make you familiarize in the interface of the platform you will be chosen.

Best platform will depend at your taste; Bittrex, Poloniex e.g but remember that not all tradeable cryptos are listed here. If that is the case you need to find other trading platform. You just have to familiarize the sites interface so that accessing it will not be difficult to you. Goodluck and hope you will gained a good trading stats.
9256  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Coinbase wallet query on: October 19, 2017, 06:05:29 PM
I have transferred around 0.0831 btc today from my Coinbase wallet but payment is not moving out the destination wallet.

When I check the transaction, it says "waiting for clearing" then clicked on it and found that it asks for photo identity verification of mine.

I want to know is this safe to me to share my identity proofs to them?

Checked in FAQ. it is normal, some times they require identity verification as US jurisdiction rule implemented and so on. Please explain that I am safe or not bros.

Yes that was somehow safe*. Not just you but users from any web exchangers really requires to undergo KYC as part of following any country's rule of law about business that involves money. And besides Coinbase is a registered company.

Anyways just wondering is this the first time you transfer that amount from Coinbase? My last transaction to them was around BTC0.2 I think couple of months ago and never did asked for verification when I request for withdrawal. Im still a basic user with only my email address as my detail.



I am using Coinbase around two years bro. I have not find any verification pop-up from the coinbase wallet. Instead troll reply you can do your business bro.

Bro got the answer already. No need of any posts more in this thread. Thank you so much guys.

Why such have a reply like that?  Huh Im just asking. I think it's a misunderstanding on your part. Cool bro we are not kids anymore. Wink

The reason I asked you a question is because I have some funds in Coinbase too which is almost the same as yours (around 0.07 I think) and I didn't have such an idea that what if there's a new policy since bitcoin price was considered high at the moment. BTC0.2 today doesn't have the same value back when I withdraw BTC0.2 couple of months ago so I will assumed that it was being based on USD value that's why it was triggered a verification. Don't have a plan on withdrawing my remaining funds as it has some purposes.

I just want your experienced as a reference. If your having a highblood right now don't bring it here in the community. Be cool always.

You can locked this thread to avoid another response.
9257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 19, 2017, 05:52:09 PM


The injury he suffer is more serious that Paul George. This might change a bit on his game-play when he recovers. Of course he will have fear now to drive inside the court unlike what on what he dies before he injures. And most of the players suffers major injury decreased efficiency in the. We need now to pray for his recovery. His 120M$ contract might be waive if he didn't recover fast.

Yes the penetration ability will be minimized for sure. In his early season in NBA a s part of Utah Jazz, he is known as one of the best shot blocker in the league especially his trademark of blocking behind. He is a kind of high flyer too as he did some of the facial dunks. All of this will be minimized once he came back for sure.

Hayward's expected recovery will be lasted until March so basically he will not play anymore in around almost a whole season. But that will be depend on his next checking. 
9258  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Coinbase wallet query on: October 19, 2017, 05:16:44 PM
I have transferred around 0.0831 btc today from my Coinbase wallet but payment is not moving out the destination wallet.

When I check the transaction, it says "waiting for clearing" then clicked on it and found that it asks for photo identity verification of mine.

I want to know is this safe to me to share my identity proofs to them?

Checked in FAQ. it is normal, some times they require identity verification as US jurisdiction rule implemented and so on. Please explain that I am safe or not bros.

Yes that was somehow safe*. Not just you but users from any web exchangers really requires to undergo KYC as part of following any country's rule of law about business that involves money. And besides Coinbase is a registered company.

Anyways just wondering is this the first time you transfer that amount from Coinbase? My last transaction to them was around BTC0.2 I think couple of months ago and never did asked for verification when I request for withdrawal. Im still a basic user with only my email address as my detail.
9259  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2 Days back i sold 17 BTC for 4968 $ on bittrex - i regret on: October 19, 2017, 04:33:33 PM
hello just 2 days back

I sold around 17 BTC for 4968$ on bittrex

and bitcoin price got pumped recently

should i wait for price drop or should i buy at current price  ?


i bought back at 5600$, after 1 day btc is back to 5100$

You managed to have an amount of funds like that but still you are in trouble on what will do as your next move??  It's unusual too see a trader with that kind of amount with weak hands and still worries about what to do next.

Ok maybe Im wrong here as maybe you are still a new trader but able to afford to have that amount, ok in the past what did you do? What is the trend back then when you got that BTC17? Take it as reference. We will continue if you respond here.
9260  Economy / Speculation / Re: North Korea threatens 'unimaginable' strike on United States on: October 19, 2017, 03:36:29 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/19/north-korea-threatens-unimaginable-strike-on-united-states.html

We know this will tank stocks.

What will this do to cryptocurrencies?  (South Korea and Japan are among the biggest markets for Bitcoin.)

North Korean leader have thin mind but he will not do recklessness. From my view, it's impossible they are 100% ready alone against the United States. A threat will remain a threat.

What will this do to cryptocurrencies? Sudden price crash might expected "if" the war will reached to it's extent and will lasts for long period. People will gather funds during war even outside the war zone and the best move to have here is to own fiat.
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