da li bi mogli nekako da dodjemo do nekog konkretnog odgovora??? :-)
Možda da postaviš konkretno pitanje? Sve je u potpunosti legalno i nemaš problema dok ne dođe vrijeme isplate. E sad kada jednom želiš isplatiti ako želiš biti u skladu sa zakon u hrvatskoj moraš platiit porez od 12% na kapitalnu dobit + prirez. Mislim da bi u teoriji (dakle, ne govorim o tome kako treba napraviti nego što je u teoriji ispravno) na zaradu od rudarenja trebalo platiti porez kao na drugi dohodak. To znači poreze, doprinose i sva davanja kao da primaš drugu plaću jer je rudarenje aktivnost koju obavljaš i za koju dobiješ novac, a to se onda oporezuje drugačije od zarade na trgovanju. Naravno, sve to govorim u teoriji jer kad si kune isplatiš sa Bitstamp-a ili neke druge burze, Porezna nikako ne može znati jesi li do tih novaca došao trgovanjem ili rudarenjem. |
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Hello everybody. I am sure that the PRL by the end of 2018 will cost at least $ 10. So who keeps the coin and does not sell. Will be in a big plus. The coin is excellent and this is its real price.
I think it will be $15 at the minimum. That would place it at under a 1 billion dollar marketcap which is very low for what this project offers IMHO. What's happening with PRL right now is panic selling because this was never a pump and dump coin. I'm surprised that it has gone down this much but I'm not worried at all. It's still up 64 times over what I got in at. Yeah, 15$ is a minimum, especially if thy manage to achieve all their goals  So why the price decrease now to almost 1$ ? Is is correction? Don't worry, price was expected to decrease after it increased several hundred times over the last month. It started at around $0.005 (that's when I got in), then went to over $4 and now it corrected to $1.5-$2. I think it's still pretty good, don't you? |
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Great news! Alpha versions of the Hawala Android and macOS apps are available for download! You can download the apps here. |
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tried to create a new wallet in the app but say feature unavailable, what wallet file should i use?
Creating new wallet is not imported yet as it's an alpha version of the wallet. You can create new ETH wallet in MyEtherWallet, send your HAT tokens to that address and then import it into the Hawala wallet. |
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Can anyone who has BLUE on Myetherwallet help please with these 2 questions?
1. BLUE is not a standard token yet and need to be added as a custom token on myetherwallet, what happens if you have an amount of tokens and later on BLUE will become a standard token? Will your amount then be automaticlly transfered to the standard token or do you need to do this manually? Your token balance will not dissapear?
2. When you added BLUE as a custom token and move tokens to your address and you later accidently (pressing once the minus symbol) remove the custom token, will your tokens then be deleted? I guess not, as it should be there on the blockchain, so when this happens, you can add the custom token again to make the balance visible again?
Sorry for my dumb questions, just want to be sure it is safe.
MyEtherWallet is just an interface to the Ethereum blockchain. You can't delete your tokens. You can just send them to another ETH address. So to answer your questions: 1. If you add custom token and later BLUE becomes standard token, you balance will not disappear. Maybe it will show two BLUE tokens, but if that happens then you can just delete custom BLUE token and you'll be OK. 2. By removing custom token from the MyEtherWallet you are just making it not show up when you click "Show tokens". If you accidentally delete custom token, you can add it again and everything will be OK. As I said before - you can't delete your token balance. Only way to remove tokens from your ETH wallet is by sending them to some other ETH address. |
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thanks i received new tokens
so where i have to check the value?
I'm not sure what value are you referring to. If you wanna know what's the value of the token, currently it's listed on Idex exchange so you can check the price there. |
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I sent the tokens now.
how long will I have to wait to get the new tokens back?
If the transaction has gone through (if it's status is Success), then just sit back and relax. It depends only on the Ethereum network how long you must wait. It could be anywhere from couple of minutes to few days. If few days go by without you receiving new tokens, you can go to the Telegram chat and fill the form (link is in the pinned post) and someone from the team will help you. |
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Does anyone know how will POW->POS happen? I mean for now it seems pretty hard to get rid from useless miners without dramatical community split.
Why would you call miners useless? You couldn't make any transactions if it weren't for the miners. |
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I don't think anyone can predict the price for any coin/token. Especially token as young as Oyster Pearl. Crypto market is more volatile than any other so any price prediction can't be taken seriously. I just read few days ago that some economic expert expects that ETH price will rise to $1350 by the end of February (the prediction was announced in the first days of this year). And what happened? ETH price was over $1400 yesterday. True, it corrected itself after that, but still - you can't predict crypto!
So he predicted the growth of the ether and quite successfully. Why then one can not predict the growth of other coins, of course there are no guarantees, but we can approximately assume the direction of growth-fall. Well, I wouldn't say he predicted it successfully. True, he said it's price will rise and it did. But I can be smart too and say that any coin's price will rise at some point. I'm saying he predicted it's price to be $1350 month and a half from now, but it's price already reached that amount. I wanna say that it's easy to predict rise of any coin since crypto market is rising in general. Bunch of new users are registering every day (some reports say that main exchanges are getting as much as 100.000 users PER DAY) bringing fresh fiat into the market which, of course, causes prices to rise. |
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kad si zadnji put probao adv na bankomatu?
To te zanima ili si probao pa nije radila na bankomatu? |
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Guys, this thread is about Ethereum. Not ETC or any other coin so please keep your post about Ethereum. If everyone starts posting info about random coins/tokens in every thread, this forum will become unreadable.
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I don't think anyone can predict the price for any coin/token. Especially token as young as Oyster Pearl. Crypto market is more volatile than any other so any price prediction can't be taken seriously. I just read few days ago that some economic expert expects that ETH price will rise to $1350 by the end of February (the prediction was announced in the first days of this year). And what happened? ETH price was over $1400 yesterday. True, it corrected itself after that, but still - you can't predict crypto!
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Have you reserved your spot in our ICO that starts on March 1st 2018? Free spots are filling up pretty quickly so be sure to upload Proof of Care ( fill this form) in order to get whitelisted for the presale. You can look what others uploaded as Proof of Care here. |
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Accepted Users - zhekinsp
TravelMug
Shrinath
Rest all denied. No slots for hero member right now. May I ask why I didn't get accepted? If it's because there's no slot for full member, then do I need to apply again when the slot opens up or will you consider my current application? |
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Čini mi se da sam pronašao još jedan zanimljiv i puno lakši način za prebacivanje BTC-a u kune od kupnje i prodaje zlata. Zove se AdvCash kartica. Bazirana je na MasterCard-u i za izdavanje se plaća 5 €. Mjesečna naknada ne postoji, a nakon verifikacije (treba poslati sliku osobne) na bankomatima se dnevno može dizati do 3.000,00 € uz proviziju od $1.99 (ako sam dobro shvatio izraz "1.99 ATM withdrawal in USD/EUR"). Osobno nisam još isprobao (danas sam ju naručio) ali izgleda kao prilično dobra stvar. Ako ju netko koristi, bilo bi lijepo da napiše iskustvo. |
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Who sent tokens, has received new?
I sent tokens and received new ones in 30 minutes, all worked perfectly. Yeah, it looks like the Ethereum network is clearing so it's to be expected that the swap will be quicker than in the previous days. I see that ethgasstation.info reports recommended gas price 5 gwei. I just made a transaction with gas price of 6 gwei and it went trough in one minute. |
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That that I don't see answers, people who has received new tokens. I won't understand why to send old coins if they at me on MEW? Usually old coins change without sending old. Just take a picture of purses and otpravlit new coins. At the same time old become not valid. It not fraud?
If I understand your question, you are wondering why do you need to send the old tokens in order to swap them for the new ones, right? Well, the team wanted to do automatic swap by creating a snapshot of old HAT token's holders, but they didn't get an answer from the EtherDelta exchange about the swap. So if they did the automatic swap with a snapshot, every token holder who had his old tokens on EtherDelta at the time of the snapshot wouldn't get new tokens because he wouldn't show up in the list of the HAT holders. That's why the team was forced to do the manual swap so every user can get new HAT tokens. Let me know if this answers your question because I'm not sure I understood you correctly. |
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To je oko 4 500 000 kuna  Na ono sto ces isplatiti na banku platit ces oko 12 posto poreza i tu ti nema druge jer će za tako veliku transakciju banka morati kontaktirat poreznu. Dio (ili mozda cak sve) mozes sasvim legalno pretvoriti u fiat tako da preko slovenske tvrtke Moro kupis zlato i odmah im ga prodas za gotovinu uz pet posto provizije sto ti je vise nego dupla usteda od placanja 12 posto poreza. Treba paziti da jednokratna ispalta u kešu ne prelazi 70000 kuna jer inače ide provjera za pranje novca. Smanjena je cifra sa 105000 kuna na 70000 od 1.1.2018 po novom zakonu. Kako znaš a će porez biti 12% posto ako ide preko banke. 12% je porez na kapitalnu dobit ali kako to možeš pravdati na osnovu čega? Zar je dovoljan samo ispis prodajnog naloga sa mjenjačnice i to vrijedi kao potvrda?! Ne znam. Zapravo nemam pojma. Negdje piše da se do 105 000 kn uopce ne treba ništa platiti,drugdje piše da treba platiti 12 posto iznad isplacenog iznosa od 105k, treci izvor kaze da na ukupno isplacenu svotu treba platiti 12 posto.... Ja sam si baš isplatio od bounty kampanja 5000 kuna i sjelo mi je toliko na devizni pa idem drugi tjedan u poreznu pitati što sad trebam raditi. Samo se bojim da ću dobiti razlicite odgovore od dva razlicita porezna referenta. Idem namjerno u dvije razlicite smjene pitat za savjet baš da vidim  Ja sam siguran da ćeš dobiti isti odgovor od svih službenika - nemam pojma Taj odgovor sam ja dobio od šefice poslovnice Porezne uprave u mojem mjestu tako da vjerujem da je na šalterima još gora situacija. ....aaaaand you nailed it ! Išao sam pitat na poreznu i na pitanje da li sam duzan što platiti jer sam prodao bitcoin za 5000 kuna i isplatio na banku dobio sam odgovor: Molim,što je to? Što ste prodali, bicikl? Ženska od nekih 6 banki nije ni čula za bitcoin unatoc medijskom bombardiraju zadnjih tjedana. Na pitanje što je to bit kojn ja sam joj rekao da mislim da bi oni to trebali znati bolje od mene pa me je uputila u sobu do kod sefice. Šefica isto ne milfaca nego gilfaca od 60+ je ipak cula za bitcoin i izvadila je neki dopis koji su dobili u srpnju sto se tice kriptovaluta. Na glas je citala i pokusavala izvuci neki zakljucak pa je nakon par minuta zakljucila da je to kao da sam imao neku umjetnicku sliku koju sam prodao i da za sada ne moram ništa ali da ce me zvat ako se što promijeni i ja joj budala ostavim ime i broj telefona ne bi li mi mogli tu sicu koju sam si isplatio umanjiti još za porez... za plakat ili smijat se pitanje je sad hahahahahaha E pa, na žalost, to što ti je ona rekla možeš "objesit mačku o rep". Trebao si tražiti da ti da na pismeno da ne trebaš ništa platiti. Jer u mojoj Poreznoj upravi isto nisu znali, ali kad se šefica savjetovala s šefovima iz Zagreba, dobio sam odgovor da moram platiti 12% porezna na kapitalnu dobit plus prirez ovisno o prebivalištu. Da si tražio na pismeno, vjerojatno bi se i ona posavjetovala sa svojim šefovima pa ne bi samo tako izvalila glupost da je to kao kad prodaš umjetničku sliku. |
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Nisam siguran koliko je to isplativo. OK, možda za jako velike transakcije tipa 10.000 dolara. Jer malo sam računao i po njihovim prodajnim i otkupnim cijenama ispada da pošteno "deru" na proviziji - 8,7% (govorim o razlici cijene za prodaju 0,5 kg zlata i za otkup 0,5 kg zlata).
Ne treba tu mnogo matematike, sve ti je izraženo u kunama https://www.moro.hr/Za slučaj koji si naveo je razlika oko 2.8% Možeš li mi objasniti kako si došao do 2,8%? Koliko znam, postotak se računa kao prodajna cijena / kupovna cijena + 100. U konkretnom slučaju prodajna cijena 0,5 kg zlata je 1,577825 BTC, a kupovna cijena je 1,450547 BTC (cijene sam uzeo s ove stranice). Prema tome: ((1.577825 - 1.450547) / 1.450547) + 100 = 8,77. Prema tome, razlika je 8,77%. Ne znam kako si ti dobio 2,8%. |
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