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9301  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: August 16, 2016, 06:55:40 AM
Bitcoin important for me because I learned how to earn money through bitcoin . The bitcoin is a big help in my studies because I retrieved my school expenses such as school projects and penetration . A big help to my parents because they do not necessarily spend more on my studies . Bitcoin is very worth it to me.
Bitcoin is help for all of the members of this forum, specially the ones who are participating in signature campaigns, it seems that you are making a good money of bitcoin that do all  of those that you said.

Bitcoin is really worth it for all of us because it is giving a good service to each person that is going to use it. Just like for its transferring service, you can easily transfer any amount to any person where ever is he in the world within minutes he can just receive it immediately. That is why it is really worth it for all of us.

Easy money transfer and with small transaction fee  is  one of the most useful features of bitcoin because you wouldnt have a hard time on going to remitance centers  just to send money from your friends family etc. only you have to do is just a few click away and viola! transfer succesful which is very useful to us bitcoin users.
9302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 16, 2016, 06:42:16 AM
It is not easy to stay away from gambling if you are an addict
but I agree some advice here to block the gambling site in your browser or find a new hobby in your real life.

Agree, its not really easy to stay away  from gambling if you are already get addicted into it , you would definitely find ways   to play on it.  Even if they block the gambling site in your browser  and still useless because  you could easily play outside  on another  pc. Finding hobbies and  things that would keep you busy would be also  a good idea.
9303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: hack the bitcoin network for 1000 btc? on: August 15, 2016, 04:29:05 AM
This guys is just trolling and no one could even do that to hack bitcoin network. If anyone could do such hacking then maybe hes the richest in bitcoin holders. And no one would  definitely accept that job, you do the hardwork  and you give the 950btc to him and 50 for you? What a nonsense
9304  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 15, 2016, 04:25:35 AM
I actively spend my coins on gambling and trading and sometimes to recharge my cell phone, and whatever profits I am earning from gambling and trading  that I am saving for future.

Why are you wasting your coins in gambling? I am sure you wouldn't have made good profits from it as everyone looses in long run, better you should save it for future.

I think gambling not always wasting and lose if you know how to control and manage yourself at gambling, because i also spend my coins in gambling and i'm not always lose on gambling.
You may not lose always, but at the end if you calculate it you might have lost more worth bitcoin. You will realize that if you have saved it, it reaps you more profits at that time than wasting in gambling.
Exactly if you save your bitcoins for future then whatever profits you will be earning will be higher in compare to gambling for sure, as the percentage of loosing will be higher in compare to winning in gambling.
Yeah right.. i dont why they are not calculate all their gambling how much they lose and how much they win.. honestly if you calculate it you will see that you lose a lot more than you win. So its better to save it for the future and make your own business online that you can make a profit with your business.

Spending bitcoin on gambling is waste of money, everyone knows what end result will be but still they invest there hoping that they will jackpot someday which seems to be unrealistic.
That would only be a waste of money if you do not win, but if you win you will feel contented with the amount you bag especially when that is a big amount. But for people who are afraid to risk their money in gambling then they stay away or just play it for fun betting a little amount only.

Yeah and if you are into gambling since long time and if you are confident that you can win it big then you should go for it or else simply invest that money somewhere else.

In gambling, we do not need to fool ourselves and think that we can win though our record is not telling the story, we should accept the reality so in that way if we are that serious in gambling we can easily adjust our method and can improve to have a better chances to win.

You may win once or twice but you cannot win every time and I am sure the amount that you loose will be higher in compare to that you have won, so overall if you look at the statistics then you will be in loss.
If you can easily accept your defeat in gambling the better because that would limit your loses, some gamblers use rage in gambling which would make them a decision to chase their bets until they lose a bigger amount in the end.

You should have self control in gambling and you should also have control on your emotions, and to make profits from it you should be aware what is the right time to quit.
That's easy to say but it is really hard to do it, when you are gambling you are in the hot seat that you feel you own the world when you are too lucky and having a good streak, that situation is very dangerous as we let our emotions take over and not our brain to use in gambling.

Its really easy to say when you are not playing gambling but in the true situation its really hard to do it because  you would lose your self control and  the greediness is overcoming you already which is a really hard thing to control.
9305  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: For the newbies on: August 15, 2016, 04:23:46 AM
Agree with the part about faucets. They will make you work from dawn till dusk for weeks, before you make your first $10, so not worth bothering with.
Youre absolutely right you will need years before you can collect 1 btc in faucets. Even if you are claiming per hour or per 10 minutes still not enough,

Faucets are just a waste of time and doesnt even worth for your time and effort but those faucets give me  experiences in the past when i was only a newbie. After im done with faucets and i just realize that they are just a waste of time and i decide to join signature campaigns instead.
9306  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 15, 2016, 04:21:41 AM
I would estimate 10-20 BTC

Seems very low to me. Not sure from which country you are from but I would assume you need at least 1-2btc a month at current prices to cover all living expenses, pay taxes, enjoy leisure, etc. You would need these 10-20 per year just to live.
Of course the bitcoin price will rise and you will need less coins,but the living expenses are rising alsim

It depends on the bitcoin price. I reckon the bitcoin price will double every two years, so that price will be $500,000 each then.

I don't think that is possible, we don't know whether bitcoin will exist that long or not and even if it survives its very difficult to touch that price.

Even on $4000 seems unrealistic and its hard for bitcoin to reach that price soon. How much more in $500k then its  very very imposible to happen. As  other said we wouldnt even know if bitcoin would last to for so long that it could rich some  moon amount.
9307  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can i enter a signature campaign as a newbie? on: August 15, 2016, 04:18:01 AM
To be honest you will not find any campaign right now that will allow you to join them with this rank, do not rush for it, upgrade your account first and they join any campaign.

Agree, dont rush into things just take time to read and learn first with this forum since this forum has lots of information you would need  and it could be a very big help in your bitcoin journey. Just rank up your account and as you read or post to threads youll gain knowledge for sure.
9308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: August 15, 2016, 04:15:30 AM
yes that's the main problem right now. I think if that kid was properly be guided and monitored is the best way your the parents to know if their kids was doing illegal stuffs like gambling. Gambling sites has really don't have the capability to know that all their users is legit.
Most cash-only gambling sites actually have high tolerance for non-adult gamblers.

Bitcoin gambling sites however, just as you said, have no legit way of determining if their users are all of legal age. They probably wouldn't mind it though since more users = more profit for them because of the house edge.
As long as there are no rules they have violated gambling sites will continue to operate the way it used to using bitcoins because the are only after of profit and they will do all things to improve their market to maximize their income.

Well, thats business no matter what happen they dont mind  if there are minors are playing as long teres no complain about them or any violated rules then they would definitely continue their operation to make good profits.
9309  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 15, 2016, 04:13:51 AM
Saving money maybe the most stupidest way  to lose your money. Why? Because even if your money is inan bank savings account every year you lose in Inflation your money depreciates its value and you don' t know it. So maybe investing it is a better choice.

saving money as in having money aside for when you need it is a good option. but if you save money just for the purpose of earning interest, then it's not a good idea. to avoid seeing your fiat holdings decrease in value people should always choose to invest a part of their wealth. that's the only way how you can avoid seeing the value of your wealth turn into hot air.
Saving money and setting it aside must be the way on how you silently or blindly make you money decrease. I mean if you set money aside inflation will decrease your money's buying power. While Investing it in atocks whicha has an annual 20% return is not bad and actually beats the inflation rate of most.

Investing in stocks seems to be risky as it goes same like investing in bitcoin as no one can control the price, but as we know that higher rewards comes only with higher risks.

Investing in stocks is a lot easier than bitcoin. Because when the prices go down they still buy because they know it is on a discount we call it averaging down, a popular technique of Warren Buffet that made him into a billionaire.

When you average either stock or any other product should think twice whether that product future is good or bad because sometimes prices will come down due to short-term issues and during that time if you average down then surely you will make a good profit in the long run. But sometimes due to some real and permanent issues prices will come down then it is better to sell off immediately and take the lose instead averaging down to take more losses in future.

Its your decision on when to sell on a certain timeframe. Some may hold for so long and dont mind if they loss some money out of it they dont care and they are just hoping  to have a pump up in future. Some may panic sell because of being afraid on losing those funds.
9310  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: August 15, 2016, 04:11:24 AM
I am visiting dark marketplaces but I don't want to purchase anything from it. It gets me scared whenever I'm trying to visit it because a lot of scammers and hackers are all over there.

Its okay to visit or just  sight seeing in the dark marketplaces  there would be no harm but  on purchasing something into their would really put you into trouble because you dont know whos behind that identity. If you are trying to purchase drugs on a certain person which you dont even know then the truth is  fbi is on that then you got screwed  in the end.
9311  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: August 15, 2016, 04:09:36 AM
not yet, but i want to. first i need to check out how everything works and then if it is ok i buy some to start.

Just a piece of advice try not to but Smiley  Try to earn it so that you can experienced of how hard it is. Through this you can grow in this industry then if you think that your knowledge is enough then try to improve your earning strategies using those bitcoin you get or earned.


Yeah it is a good advice that you are going to try to earn for it so that you are going to know how important it is to have bitcoin at all especially when you did great effort for it. And you are going to earn just for holding it same reason like buying and just for holding it. Your investment is going to be your effort at all.

That's right in this way aside from gaining some amounts you are also learning. If you fail it is fine because you have nothing much to lose at all. You can directly stand up and try again then grow.
Yeah failure is one more step towards the success, even if you fail you should never give up and try to improve your skills and over a period of time you will surely succeed.
Failure is an important step to succes, but if you have just failures there is a problem

Failure is a step to success if you learned from it. If you take that failure as a stepping stone and not repeat the same mistakes you made. But if you failed and just ignore it and try again doing the same mistake you made, then there is something wrong with you.

We dont usually made the same mistake twice because we wouldnt do that definitely because we already know that we failed on that way. Just try  and try to different ways until you find the  best way to achieve your goals. With this mentality you would definitely succeed in the future.
9312  Other / Off-topic / Re: In 20 years, what would you like to do with your bitcoin? on: August 15, 2016, 04:06:18 AM
i think holding 100bitcoin for retirement day in next 20years is good option, im sure in future bitcoin will be famous currency and 40% offline merchand use it like visa/ master card.
better is to use most of the bitcoin to open a business in the real world. I suggest to open a business related about the technology. because with technology we can help the development of bitcoin in this world.
yeah, opening a business with bitcoin would definitely be great, i would also like to shop with bitcoins and use it daily all the time
though for that you would need a lot of bitcoins for the first time investment, i think that in 20 years i would like to use my bitcoins on daily basis
I think whatever you want to do in bitcoin 20 years to come? I hope you can gather a lot of bitcoin. because I think the cost of living will be greater in that year. and you have to collect a lot of bitcoin if you want to live comfortably

We must assume that situation would happen , as the year goes by the price our our common needs does  increase too, therefore we must  save bitcoin as much as we can  so that  in the future  we would live enough for our living. 20 years is  a long  game but  we would reach there no matter what.
9313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 15, 2016, 03:02:55 AM
You can do something different to avoid gambling.  Like store your all bitcoin in xapo vault as it takes 48 hours and more one confirmation to process the withdrawal.  So, may be you will keep and make you to feel good.
Feel good? I don't think so. Gamblers usually are short-tempered. This 48 hours of waiting will just make them upset and so mad that the gambler wouldn't do it again. It might make a gambler get away from gambling for a short while but it will give him a bad experience. Also, a gambler would always find a way to gamble. So even if his money is stuck in Xapo, he can always look for a friend and ask for a loan. He knows he can give it back after 48 hours.

Thats right, even what thing that you do in order for them to stop then they would definitely find a way to gamble no matter how hard it is.  Especially to gambling addicts  if they like to gamble then   no one can stop them  as they know that he could pay him  even its 48 hours.
9314  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Steam accepting btc - will it affect the forum market? on: August 15, 2016, 02:55:18 AM
Well, i think that not many people are selling games here.
So steam accepting btc probably won't affect it so hard, it is not so popular to buy games here anyway...

even the are a few  who are in gaming here but the true things is that steam is already  accepting bitcoins as a payment and steam has a lot of gamers or users maybe  it would be a nice advertisement for bitcoin its appearance in steam.
9315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Kim Dotcom Predict 2000$ per Bitcoin ??!! on: August 15, 2016, 02:53:02 AM
I even don't know who is Kim Dotcom. Honestly I already don't know to whom to trust. Here on the forum there are hundreds of opinions about bitcoin and price for it. Someone say that it is dead and another one promise 4000$ this August already. It all is making  me confused. But I believe that bitcoin will rise a bit more soon.

Me too i dont even know him , there are lots of speculation from different person here in online world either famous or non famous personalities. All i can say that i treated them as all speculation without any certain basis since bitcoins price is unpredictable and no know what would be the exact price in upcoming years.
9316  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 15, 2016, 02:47:49 AM
It is not really gambling. If you study and know the strategy of hyip you can know how much time it will pay you . Thats what i do

Yeah maybe, but why do you want to risk to invest in the site that will definitely scam. May I ask if you ever get a profit from HYIP. For example, after achieving ROI, because before ROI can not be regarded as a profit. Thanks

Maybe he has strategy of earn and run,  joining hyips on the first day it launched then pursuing and hoping for a roi, it would be lucky if you get roi on that site but  it doesnt work all the time since most of the hyips  dont usually last long because they cant sustain the  high returns for their members.
9317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 15, 2016, 02:43:10 AM
deposit $10k and play martiangle. start from $1. lol

but that's not my strategy.
Martingale isn't really that much of a profitable scheme, well, only to a certain amount as it would fail sooner or later.
There is really no legit way of making profit from gambling that much easily. All requires a good considerable amount of skills on a particular game. Your one skill may not work on another gambling type for easy money making. That is the reason most of gamblers do fail.
Yeah this is the reason doing martingale is actually not wise, unless u have a really big balance and do it for short time.
However your only chance to make really good profit from gambling, you need to win it in very low amount of bets ( big bets ) and stop playing after that, because winning constantly is impossible.
Winning constantly is not impossible, only highly unlikely. And highly unlikely means something like a one-quadrillionth of a percent chance, depending on how long you keep going for. On a long enough timeline the survival rates of everything (and in this case a winning streak) approaches zero, and in gambling a chance approaching 0 means that it is basically completely impossible.

The martingale method is great for small bets with a massive balance, but it starts to falter beyond that.

Martingale doesnt work in any gambling situation  and it doesnt matter how big or small your bankroll is.  Martingale may work a little bit  if youre lucky but sadly it would rape you out  with losing streaks in the end especially on dice games.
9318  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to get big satoshi instantly on: August 15, 2016, 02:39:52 AM
getting big result you have to take risks, if you do not want to take the risk, you may need to have a skill that can be sell and get paid a high.

I think you have to learn about the trade, the risk can be minimized if you already quite expert, you can even get greater results.

No one can do something in the best way for the first time, everyone learns from there mistakes and then they reach to the highest peak of success in that field, so if someone wants to earn a lot of money then he would surely need to risk big amounts as well for that, even if he fails sometimes but he will manage to reach his goal someday.

Yeah in any field when you are new to it, mistakes will always be a part of it, and mistakes are important as unless you don't commit a mistake how will you learn from it, take mistakes in a positive way and treat it as an learning experience.

As we all know  we learned from our mistakes and someone must treat is as an experience and mistakes are just recipe on having  a  succesful career. As you said   we  really fail at first on whatever things we are starting.
9319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 15, 2016, 02:08:04 AM
How to stay away from gambling, Ofcourse all you need is decipline in your self because if you don't have decipline in your self then you are going to be addicted once a week is enough to play gambling then if you don't have money or bitcoin just stop playing gambling because you always get nothing in your hand and you don't know that all you money you spend it on gambling

Discipline is very important if you want to stay away from gambling because without discipline you are going to keep on gambling. If you are going to treat yourself on a very dangerous situation that you are going to get addicted with it and you know what is going to happen if you are not going to stay away from it then worst things are going to happen.

THe very important things to stay away from gambling is  you must have a  strong self discipline and  a strong dedication to stay away from gambling since these things would help you and  think to another things that would make you busy and  forget about gambling.
9320  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: August 15, 2016, 02:05:51 AM
Can I borrow 6$ from any of you guys?
This kind of post belongs be in the lending topic and not here in a thread about managing money.  Cheesy
But with all the hard nose lenders there I can't see this happening for you for even this amount. Undecided

No one would  definitely give you that amount even its only small because money is money and we require to  do a hard work to obtain it. You are right  this one should be in the lending section, and no one would surely give  that small amount because it needs a collateral for sure.
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