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9361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Gascoin-- Public Apology To iGotspots, Gascoin, and the Altcoin Community on: July 31, 2013, 07:06:44 PM
Prior to his post in the Gas Coin thread apologizing and explaining why he did what he did, r3wt had sent me a PM saying basically the same thing. I had the chance to (most likely) get him the scammer tag, but I believe in second chances, that's why I stopped posting in that thread and stopped trying to get him the tag. I do believe, and hope, this is a sincere apology not only to us, but to the community as a whole.

He has probably screwed himself more than he knows so far, but at this time I see no point in continuing the witch hunt. I have too much planned and in motion with Spots to stay involved with this current situation and risk losing the trust of those of you currently following Spots.

I will, however, be watching r3wt's work very carefully from now on and if he does screw anyone else over, please let me know. I won't hesitate to push the issue if he doesn't follow through with being honest and fair from now on. If he stays true to his word, then it's a simple lesson learned. Fair enough?
9362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 06:59:54 PM
Quote from: kslavik on July 31, 2013, 06:44:59 PM
I don't understand why no scrypt coin would properly retarget to keep consistent generation rate (the most valuable attribute of any crypto-currency).

Here what needs to be done:  Adjust difficulty every block by 10% (could be other %) down or up towards desired difficulty, based on the last 10 blocks average times. So there  would be no sudden spikes up or down no matter what the luck was or what the network hash rates jumped to.

Once this algorithm is implemented into any crypto-coin, it will be there for a long time.

Well, Spots is a little different. I'm going to be launching...something...fairly soon. There are still under 5500 blocks in over a week, which is perfect for what we're trying to do with it. I see what you mean for alts in general, but for Spots in particular, it's not about keeping the coin generation rate stable, it's about keeping the price stable on the exchanges.

I admit, it may be a code issue or something that you are pointing out, but it's functioning just as we want it to. I see no reason to push out a client update and have people download and deal with all that just to change the way difficulty retargeting is displayed to the people that are digging that deep. For all intents and purposes, it's working just fine.

That does not mean that I don't appreciate you bringing it to my attention; I really do. That means that if an issue comes up where we need to update the client for another reason, this change can also be included into it. Again, I really do appreciate constructive criticisms. Thanks for pointing it out
9363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: kslavik on July 31, 2013, 03:56:09 PM
Here is the log for the last hour:

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07/31 09:41 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.09781781 / Target: 1.8399 Blocks: 5229
07/31 09:40 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.09781781 / Target: 1.8399 Blocks: 5229
07/31 09:40 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.1358579 / Target: 4.4857 Blocks: 5227
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07/31 09:38 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.1358579 / Target: 2.7738 Blocks: 5226
07/31 09:38 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.45663262 / Target: 2.7738 Blocks: 5225
07/31 09:38 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.45663262 / Target: 0.4566 Blocks: 5224
07/31 09:38 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.45663262 / Target: 5.2656 Blocks: 5224
07/31 09:37 - Debug: GetDiff: 0.45663262 / Target: 0.4566 Blocks: 5224

As you can see, there are a lot of consistent mismatches between 2 difficulties.
There could be a bug in the code, but I still don't see a reason why the same client would calculate difficulties in two different ways. Why would the difficulty from "getdifficulty" command not just return the difficulty from the target? I'm connected to 31 nodes.

Show me your logs

Ok, now I see what you're saying. Either way, though, it's adjusting properly. However, I'm confused as to why you think it has malicious intent to fool charts? It's obviously not. Sure we have spikes both high and low, but if you look at the average profitability on coinchoose, it's pretty close to where it should be
9364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Today's news (IMO) July 31, 2013 on: July 31, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
Can I do the traffic report on the next newscast? Even though you like to make fun of me its rare that I get a laugh on this forum. Thanks for that
9365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mandatory Update to Nuggets (NUGs) 1.0.1! Get your VGB - Vlad Golden Blocks on: July 31, 2013, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: hotcoldcoin on July 31, 2013, 04:29:44 PM
Wouldn't you know it.  Another day, another Super Duper VGB Block.  Now we have 2!

Block 7201 - 2013-07-31 15:04:30 - 10045      

Block 6828 - 2013-07-30 21:52:53 - 10045      


p.s.:  poor Spots hasn't found any "Spotter Blocks" since launch.

I would prefer if none are ever found so the price won't be affected by an additional 10k coming out of nowhere. You know, since Spots is actually traded and not just mined to have a discussion with a crazy person
9366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: hotcoldcoin on July 31, 2013, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 28, 2013, 02:29:48 AM
Quote from: Roosevelt122007 on July 28, 2013, 02:17:04 AM
Any Spotter Blocks found?

Nope. Only a .01% per block so it could be the next 10 or there may never be one ever.

Quick way to check...go here:
http://altcha.in/chain/Spots

Take total coins / 49

If that is equal to the block number then we don't have any yet. If it doesn't match up then subtract 10045 until you get to the block number. Each time you subtract that's a spotter block

Still no spotter blocks found.  At block 5166 with 253134 outstanding.  253134 / 49 = 5166.

Now I have to wait to test the new Next Block Reward predictor script for Spots  Sad

So much for trying to cheat  Wink
9367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 03:41:29 PM
Quote from: kslavik on July 31, 2013, 03:34:06 PM
Can somebody explain why there is almost always a disconnect between difficulties from "getdifficulty", "getmininginfo" and calculated target difficulty from "getwork" :




Target is ....000081b2, which is  0xb2810000 = 2994798592

difficulty = 4294967295 (0xffffffff) / 2994798592 = 1.4341 (94K cgminer)

and difficulty from getdifficulty and getmininginfo is 3.8243

It took about 2.5 minutes for the getwork difficulty to show the same difficulty of 1.4341 as a target difficulty from getwork

I smell a bad intent over here to confuse coinchoose.com and other Multi-coin sites/pools to mine this coin when the difficulty is high.

There is no reason why the same client would return different difficulties to different requests

Please, prove me wrong.

We haven't changed anything since the second day after launch when we updated the client to fix syncing. That was before we were even being considered for an exchange or on coinchoose's radar.

Even if that was our ill-intention, it would be 100% pointless since the difficulty changes so often and so dramatically. As soon as a multi-pool jumps on it, it would not be profitable at all for them to mine on it for more than a few blocks.  I actually prefer when they aren't on it, so people that are on the actual spots pools or our dedicated solo miners are getting the coins instead of multis.

I'm also not taking 2.5 minutes to see the same numbers. Give it about an hour and try again, let me know the results. We had a slight hiccup on the network earlier this morning, not sure if it was a thwarted attack, or just a pool getting too much of the network hashrate.

If you still feel like we are trying to be shady when you re-check it in a little bit (after things have settled back to normal), post again.

Don't forget, these are slower blocks, so sometimes things DO take a little longer to line up than a coin with a 12 second block time
9368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: apbyte on July 31, 2013, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 31, 2013, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 31, 2013, 01:48:23 PM
Investigating possible fork on one of the pools. Its only a few blocks off but if it did fork we caught it very quickly

Looks like we are good. Everything seems to line up, let me know if anyone sees anything unusual. Thanks

Seems fine, started to sync

Awesome. Glad we caught it quick
9369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 31, 2013, 01:48:23 PM
Investigating possible fork on one of the pools. Its only a few blocks off but if it did fork we caught it very quickly

Looks like we are good. Everything seems to line up, let me know if anyone sees anything unusual. Thanks
9370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 01:48:23 PM
Investigating possible fork on one of the pools. Its only a few blocks off but if it did fork we caught it very quickly
9371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Spots announcement coming August 8th on: July 31, 2013, 04:38:55 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
9372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 03:56:55 AM
I wonder what the August 8th announcement could be...
9373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 31, 2013, 02:40:34 AM
Quote from: apbyte on July 30, 2013, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 30, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Looks like we will be hitting block 5000 today

Definetly Smiley


WHat will happen on block 5000 ? any changes ?

No, just a milestone. These are still relatively rare
9374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 30, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Looks like we will be hitting block 5000 today
9375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: cgiminer repeats "stratum from pool 0 detected new block" on: July 30, 2013, 08:01:00 PM
No

You need to use --scrypt in your bat
9376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anti Premine People Are Stoopid on: July 30, 2013, 07:45:02 PM
I am 100% anti-premine and will not ever support a coin that is. Guess that makes me stupid with a double-o

Profits should come from goods or services being provided for a percentage of the transactions
9377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 30, 2013, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: jpmi1 on July 30, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
Is it possible/profitable to solo mine still on an i5?

The difficulty retargeting is very quick. Sometimes it's at a very low difficulty and other times it is very high. If you watch coinchoose.com, when it jumps to the top of the list for profitability, that's when the diff is lowest
9378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 30, 2013, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: apbyte on July 30, 2013, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 30, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: apbyte on July 30, 2013, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 30, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
Get ready for a big announcement on August 8th

http://www.iGotSpots.com/

Don't do same mistake as UNOCS Cheesy

What mistakes would that be? I have paid 0 attention to them. Not interested at all in umbrellas

That would be announcing date for releasing something very cool, then some problems happen and they can't release at that day, community goes crazy for more than week and don't believe any word they say and part of people start to dump their coins and coin value goes 2x down

Either give yourself big margin in case problems will happen (eg additional week) or don't post precise date, it can seriously damage this coin if things will not go smootly

Not that I think you will get into problems, simply worried about coin, I like this one Smiley



Ah, thanks. Now I understand what people were talking about on Cryptsy today.

August 8th is not the release date for what we have planned. It's the day we are announcing what is going to be coming. And it's big
9379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 30, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: apbyte on July 30, 2013, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: iGotSpots on July 30, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
Get ready for a big announcement on August 8th

http://www.iGotSpots.com/

Don't do same mistake as UNOCS Cheesy

What mistakes would that be? I have paid 0 attention to them. Not interested at all in umbrellas
9380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spots NEW COIN | Traded on Coins-e | Win | Mac | Linux | LAUNCHED | [SPT] on: July 30, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
Get ready for a big announcement on August 8th

http://www.iGotSpots.com/
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