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941  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 09:39:44 PM
I'm only reading now that whirlwind turned out to be a scam! I honestly never expected it, the platform worked perfectly as long as I too was part of the whirlwind signature campaign. fortunately I have always withdrawn everything I could because I prefer to keep everything in my pocket and I don't blame those who wanted to leave the funds on the WW website, 12% is tempting for everyone! I support the flag as a sign of proximity to the forum members affected by the scam
942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ? Lega Serie A ?? (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024? on: August 17, 2023, 09:07:40 PM
Finally we are in the final stages, and the Napoli fans can be happy, Victor Osimhen and Napoli will bind until 2026, he will be the highest paid player in all of Serie A with 10m a year, and at his request he wanted the clause termination clause to be lowered to 150m so that he can link up with other clubs more easily. All that is missing now is the signature on the contract which will arrive shortly.

lots and lots of stuff
I have read and I am very happy with this agreement, he will still play in Serie A so we will see some really good ones.
Victor takes a lot of money, but he deserves it all.
I also found out that Napoli have a penalty of 3M to pay to Spalletti, right?

I'm not following the Spalletti affair closely, but from what I understand Napoli are asking for a 3 million clause to release Spalletti, but the Italian national team does not intend to pay this clause because they assume that by signing Spalletti they are not going to compete against a direct opponent. the story is all a bit confusing, we would have to follow the updates of the case carefully
943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 17, 2023, 10:39:11 AM
ok guys, now there are 2 days left until the start of Serie A and I have already placed my first bets

Frosinone - Napoli 2 @ 1.38
Genoa - Fiorentina X @ 3.3
Inter - Monza 1 @ 1.39

total odds 6.33

given the odds I think it's quite feasible
I welcome advice and opinions  Wink
944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 17, 2023, 10:26:10 AM
I don't like the idea, lets keep the champions league to Europe and Europe only, I personally don't like all this new rules they keep adding to the football that we knew, it's spoiling it and if UEFA does this then they have spoiled football and I'll be in support of the Super league to replace the champions league because they would have taken the prestige of the league by allowing those farmers with their money to come and spoil everything. They'll just bribe the referee with their oil billion and spoil the good game. Also this means they can get younger players as they're participating in champions league which is one of the reasons young players are refusing to go to Saudi because that means they can't play on the big stages (champions league). Thought we have club world cup that they can participate in.


I fully agree with your thinking, UEFA is making too many changes to an historic event, the champions league is and must remain only for European clubs, the Saudis have their own champions, everyone stays where they belong! I also don't like the new format of the champions league very much but I keep the considerations at the end of the 24/25 season to give an opinion. The Superleague has now faded but if it were to regain altitude I would be happy to support it, because UEFA's choices are massacring the world of football
945  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: August 17, 2023, 08:32:58 AM
Fantasioso ma potevi essere esaustivo del posto dove hai effettuato questa foto-dedica. Sabbia grossa, spiaggia inclinata. Io voto liguria: magari mi sbaglio poi ma mi butto. Grazie in ogni caso e buon ferragosto anche a te (in ritardo)
Ciao bastisisca sono in incognito 😎🙂. Comunque niente Liguria - sono al Sud… ancora per poco purtroppo 🤦🏻‍♂️

ah ecco sei un terrone o torrone lol
le spiagge migliori sono al sudde purtroppo nel bene e nel male
in siculia terra per ora gli aeroporti hanno tanti problemi: incendi dolosi, etna, mal gestione
mi viene da ridere giusto per non piangere

Fosse solo per le spiaggie!! da Napoli in giù sono non solo le migliori da vedere, ma anche clima e biodiversità è quasi unica al mondo. Tanto per fare un paio di esempi, le Cozze tarantine e quelle messinesi, Il gambero rosso di Mazara del Vallo, Il tonno del mediterraneo che qui apro e chiudo una parentesi, vietata la pesca in italia ma i giapponesi vengono a prenderselo per il loro sushi e che fino alla fine degli anni 90 venivano solo per comprarlo a occhi chiusi, ma grazie agli animalisti adesso per noi è quasi vietata la pesca, non per niente tutte le tonnare di Trapani e Favignana sono state chiuse. I prodotti culinari invidiati da mezzo mondo, il pratimonio artistico e culturale lo si trova per 80% da Roma in giu, Colosseo, foro imperiale, baia(la città romana sommersa) i vari templi greci di Segesta, Selinunte, la valle dei templi di Agrigento... potrei continuare ma voglio fermarmi, il sud non è solo mare e spiaggia! poi ovviamente ci sono tutte le complicazioni che derivano da mala gestione del territorio, mafia ndrangheta camorra ecc ecc che non fanno altro che deturpare il sud
946  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: [DIY] Come creare un signing device utilizzando un vecchio smartphone on: August 16, 2023, 07:12:37 PM
Grazie intanto Smiley la guida è più facile da seguire più di quanto si possa credere, forse è un pò scritta confusionaria, ma etichettare 2 smartphone non era proprio semplicissimo se non li specificavo volta per volta.
se posso chiedere, e ovviamente se vuoi rispondere, quali sono le due cose che hai imparato?


Ho imparato sta cosa di air-gapped che mi pare una cosa super figa, se non ricordo male dovrebbe essere molto simile a safepal o sto sbagliando? La seconda cosa che ho imparato: sfruttare dei vecchi smartphone, vedo se ne ho da usare per fare questo progetto DIY

no non stai assolutamente sbagliando, air-gapped significa sostanzialmente muro d'aria tra due o più dispositivi, cioè in breve non esiste connessione diretta. per questo è importante, tiene completamente offline il dispositivo, genera un qr code che contiene tutte le informazioni necessarie per poter firmare una transazione senza che questo device sia "fisicamente" connesso alla rete, ed è praticamente ciò che fa Safepal ma anche Jade e credo il Warlo di babo, e ne dovrebbero esistere anche altri ma non ricordo sinceramente per ora
947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 16, 2023, 07:06:39 PM
If UEFA will be accepting it and it must change its name as Union of European and Middle East Football Associations. It doesn't even make sense to see how saudi wanna ask UEFA to include saudi pro league team in UCL.

wild card = money? This probably a hoax being made by media but it will make sense if saudi pro league club will able to participate in AFC champion league elite(ACLE) which has been introduced recently by AFC.

update:

I got the source of that news https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-estero/saudi-league/2023/08/15-111686909/clamoroso_gli_arabi_vogliono_giocare_la_champions_league


here I was referring to this news, it shocked me sincerely, it would be interesting to know what uefa itself thinks of this possibility

I have never seen or heard such news. But if the news is true then I think the Champions League authorities will not agree to this. Because the Champions League has something to say about self-esteem.

to be honest, I don't like the idea at all! they already have their own Champions League, why on earth should they have access to a competition that is not part of their jurisdiction?
that's why it would be interesting to find a news from uefa on this topic

There have also been loose rumors that the UEFA itself was considering giving two wild cards to two clubs from the Saudi Professional League, but there was no official source anywhere to be found except for some tweets and less reputed websites. It wouldn't come as a huge surprise and maybe it is a test done by the UEFA to find out whether the Saudis already have bigger plans for their own association or something like that.

I mean why not, it can't hurt and we could finally see what happens when Manchester City plays against a club like Al-Nassr.

If that's the point, I think it's all about pleasing the sheikhs of Manchester City and the PIF group. in short, always a matter of money! and what money!!




948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ? Lega Serie A ?? (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024? on: August 16, 2023, 06:49:19 PM
I voted for Inter to become the champions of the 2023/24 season. Because I also believe they have made big progress in the recent times. Bookies must be thinking the same that Inter are the biggest favourite @2.75. Napoli were given @4.00 odds right after them and Juventus follow them @4.33.

I understand the gap between Inter and Napoli because Napoli aren't a team that become champions quite often in the Serie A. This was their 3rd league title 2 of which were won in the 1986/87 and 1989/90 seasons. Although they still have almost the same squad they have changed their manager. Spalletti has left his place to Rudi Garcia. We don't know how things will go from now on yet.

I'm just surprised with the small difference between Napoli and Juventus in odds. Because Juventus aren't having good days honestly.

Napoli did the bullshit of sending Spalletti away, all new and they also lost a lot of pieces. As an enemy of Inter, I hope Milan win instead. But in fact at the moment it is the strongest team unfortunately. I hope not Tongue

@giammangiato I have voted for Roma because I feel that this will be Mourinho’s year and he’ll definitely help Roma win the league title. Furthermore I’m impressed by the player’s he’s bought and Sanches will have a point to prove and if he can rediscover his form then he’ll definitely help Roma in their chase for the top spot and that’s why I’m backing them to win the title.

I would very much hope that Mourinho would win the championship, for a couple of reasons. We would go to replicate a statistic that has been missing since 1970 where 5 different teams won the championship in previous years
Inter 1966
Juventus 1967
Milan 1968
Fiorentina 1969
Cagliari 1970.

If Roma, who are a contender for the title this year, were to win even if with little chance, in 2024 there would be 5 different teams that won a Scudetto in previous years

Juventus 2020
Inter 2021
Milan 2022
Napoli 2023
Roma 2024(?)

this is the maximum record established in Serie A on this type of statistic which is still unbeaten for more than 50 years, replicating it would already be a record, beating it would not only be difficult but beautiful
949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 16, 2023, 02:02:02 PM
I just have news that has me a little shocked! Saudi Arabia wants to ask UEFA that a team from the Saudi League Pro can be included in the next Champions league, through a "wild card" that I honestly did not understand what a wild card was, do you have any news on the matter? is it a hoax that runs on the web?
950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 16, 2023, 01:47:52 PM

Exactly, I agree with what you said! Wolves has often managed to put the top clubs in the premier league in difficulty and it is not new to this undertaking, but we must add that over the last few years almost all the small clubs in the EPL have narrowed the technical gap with the top clubs. and in fact the EPL has become the most balanced and toughest tournament in the world. going back to the result of Man UTD - Wolves I think the result is a lie, wolves didn't deserve the defeat and the referee's choices are very questionable, in fact it seems he was punished with a stoppage

Though three good points is all that matters at the end of the game, but Manchester United shouldn't have been winners of that game last night. They'll get nowhere if they continue like this still.
Wolverampton tore Manchester United midfielder's apart, the game yesterday made me realize that Manchester United lacked energy in midfied the hunt for Amrabat should be done immediately. Casemiro, Bruno Fernandez and lastly Mason Mount all flopped big balls.

Props to Onana and the rest of Manchester United defense. In between, Erik Ten Hag made good decisions and changes. Antony should be my man of the match, despite being substuted early, he was the best off the bench and also on the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game but only at times, but from what little I saw, I can confirm that Manchester United really had great difficulties in midfield, although in my opinion the players on the pitch were all very technical, they missed a lot of balls , but I also think it's just a matter of fitness, the Premier League has just begun, I just hope it's a breathlessness in the first few games, hoping they'll get in better shape in a short time, or in the winter transfer market session they'll have to invest again in midfield
951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 15, 2023, 04:42:41 PM


📣 Finally we are in the final stages, and the Napoli fans can be happy, Victor Osimhen and Napoli will bind until 2026, he will be the highest paid player in all of Serie A with 10m a year, and at his request he wanted the clause termination clause to be lowered to 150m so that he can link up with other clubs more easily. All that is missing now is the signature on the contract which will arrive shortly.
952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 15, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
Although Manchester United managed to secure victory in the first match. Then I would think that he could not perform much better than the opposition team. Comparatively, both the teams played almost equally. Manchester United need to perform better.
It's not surprising, but from the few games that have happened, Wolves can always make big teams difficult. They are not new debutants. In addition, it is interesting that small or large EPL teams can always make it difficult for the opponents they face. No strength gap is too big for each team. From that match there were indeed some crucial moments that should have given the advantage and the referee's decision was different. EPL competitions are long, judging from the first game is not an exact measure and that's hard to accept.

Exactly, I agree with what you said! Wolves has often managed to put the top clubs in the premier league in difficulty and it is not new to this undertaking, but we must add that over the last few years almost all the small clubs in the EPL have narrowed the technical gap with the top clubs. and in fact the EPL has become the most balanced and toughest tournament in the world. going back to the result of Man UTD - Wolves I think the result is a lie, wolves didn't deserve the defeat and the referee's choices are very questionable, in fact it seems he was punished with a stoppage
953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 14, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
And here we are, in less than 5 days the Italian championship Lega Serie A officially begins, below you will find the first round, shall we try to make some predictions?

Serie A 1° Matchday

19/08/202318:30Empoli-Verona
19/08/202318:30Frosinone-Napoli
19/08/202320:45Genoa-Fiorentina
19/08/202320:45Inter-Monza
20/08/202318:30Roma-Salernitana
20/08/202318:30Sassuolo-Atalanta
20/08/202320:45Lecce-Lazio
20/08/202320:45Udinese-Juventus
21/08/202318:30Torino-Cagliari
21/08/202320:45Bologna-Milan

954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 14, 2023, 03:53:02 PM
I voted for Inter to become the champions of the 2023/24 season. Because I also believe they have made big progress in the recent times. Bookies must be thinking the same that Inter are the biggest favourite @2.75. Napoli were given @4.00 odds right after them and Juventus follow them @4.33.

I understand the gap between Inter and Napoli because Napoli aren't a team that become champions quite often in the Serie A. This was their 3rd league title 2 of which were won in the 1986/87 and 1989/90 seasons. Although they still have almost the same squad they have changed their manager. Spalletti has left his place to Rudi Garcia. We don't know how things will go from now on yet.

I'm just surprised with the small difference between Napoli and Juventus in odds. Because Juventus aren't having good days honestly.
Judging from the transfer window I'll say Ac Milan stand a better chance than inter in winning the league trophy they brought in a good number of talented players across Europe including Samuel Chukwueze from villareal and Chelsea's Christian Pulisi, now we all know how these two players could  be when they're in  there best form and if they both adapt quickly to Ac Milan's style of play without sustaining any injury this season it would be a big boost for their team cause both players are very good coming from the flanks.
 Would had picked Juventus as the favourite but I'm still yet to know if they'll be given a ban this season again concerning the situation of Lukaku moving to their team, but asides any ban Juventus would be very tough contenders and retain their title as the champions of Italy, well only time would tell if Rudi Garcia is equal to the task to recreating the winning mentality in his team like Spalletti did before he resigned.

Among the contenders for winning the Scudetto, in my opinion the team that has the most chances for the moment is Inter, but they have many unknowns, and also top-level players have left, the friendlies played by Inter so far have highlighted major gaps! we'll see. Milan has strengthened a lot, but has practically changed the whole midfield, currently I don't see them as the main contender for the Scudetto, but I could also be wrong and the rest of the championship will show us the true strength of Milan. Napoli starts as favorites but hasn't strengthened enough, moreover the change of coach can have a lot of impact both positively and negatively! I think it will be a good duel between Inter and Napoli
955  Other / Meta / Re: Gangs of BitcoinTalk :) on: August 14, 2023, 03:44:40 PM

this is meant to be a fun post not a nasty one.

  Grin Grin what the fuck is wrong with you ? how could you not like pineapple on a pizza!!  Grin Grin

BTW my favorite pizza is a classic NYC tomato and cheese slice.

Pulled out of the fridge at  6 am for breakfast. with a cup of black coffee to chase it down.

So what do I know about pizza!  Grin Grin

I do know this much :

I would not like a cold slice with anchovies on it for breakfast!

I'm sorry to inform you, but tastes are tastes!!
By now the pineapple on the pizza is past fashion!!

I'm launching you my new and very personal fashion...
pizza with passion fruit and mayonnaise!! this sounds like a real wooooow in the taste buds

and enjoy your meal Grin Grin
956  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: August 13, 2023, 10:40:18 PM
Bellaaaaa mi piace la classifica fatta così! Diciamo che è più chic! (Scrive cosi no?)

Finalmente rientro in classifica! Dopo due mesi di latitanza 😂😂 maggio e giugno ho avuto ferie per tanto assente giustificato!

Per i typo ci penso domani! Devo leggere attentamente e non è orario adesso 😬
957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 13, 2023, 09:09:27 AM
Yesterday evening I watched the Coppa Italia match between Cagliari and Palermo, which ended in extra time with Cagliari's victory with a goal in the 120th minute, result 2-1.

from what I've seen, even if Palermo plays in Serie B I think they will be a contender for the final victory of the Serie B championship, the City group is doing a really good job in Palermo. who knows maybe next year he could return to Serie A

For Cagliari, on the other hand, I see a very tortuous road in Serie A, they have to improve and quickly if they don't want to meet again among the relegated to Serie B.

What do you think about it? I'd love to read your opinions
958  Other / Meta / Re: Gangs of BitcoinTalk :) on: August 13, 2023, 09:01:02 AM
I'm going to break my spaghetti in half before I cook it next time. I hear that that's the authentic Italian way.
Can confirm. I'm like 6% Italian (on my brother's side) and that's the way I've always done it. Also, if you want a real taste of Italy, try putting pineapple on your pizza, that's sure to get you some nods from the traditionalists (and maybe even a "squisito!").
Ketchup on pasta.
Pineapple on Pizza.
That is lethal sin. Something that could berserk an every Italian

It feels like a gang war is preparing nutildaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah are you filming this?

Thank God I am not using pineapple on pizza and I only eat traditional Italian style pizza  Roll Eyes



I hope I'm safe based on my neutrality.

using pineapple as a pizza topping is like topping a hotdog with whipped cream and strawberries. LOL, I would never eat this but I love hotdogs and American style BBQ too. very enjoyable!! I'm going to get me some Ribs BBQ bye!  Grin
959  Other / Meta / Re: [LOG] The ranked up members - Congratulations! on: August 13, 2023, 08:39:03 AM
The logs and chart have been updated. I also published the first part of the logs in a separate post because there are already too many users who have over 2000 merits on the main page of this thread.



Lillominato89 [..] are new Hero Members.

Hurray! Cool

Thank you very much Coin-1 for always welcome update of this thread, I am very happy to see my rank increase to Hero member, I hope and I am confident that when I become Legendary Member this thread will still be active and updated


Thanks Coin-1 for another update on this thread!

Today's highlight brings again some names known to me and I am very glad to see them here!


Lillominato89 [...] are new Hero Members.

And there is one gang member of Italian Brotherhood which became a Hero! Congrats! This will make the Brotherhood stronger Smiley

And thanks to you too GazetaBitcoin, the strength of the alliance will be much more compact, and I hope that new members will join the Italian Brotherhood. There are promising members like
bastisisca and mendace who are ready to join Italian Brotherhood

 Cool
960  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Attenzione: Voci su una possibile insolvenza di Huobi on: August 12, 2023, 07:01:47 PM
infatto non ho capito @ale88 a chi si riferiva
Ci sono un sacco di utenti (non solo in questa sezione) e bitcoiner vari che sono felici quando un exchange fallisce, non mi dire che non hai mai notato questa cosa...?

Purtroppo come in tutte le cose anche il mondo crypto è composto da vari talebani che vedono il mondo solamente bianco o nero, non sono in grado di cogliere nessuna sfumatura di grigio e hanno una mentalità talmente chiusa che non arrivano a capire che con certe azioni pure loro ci perdono.

Io l'ho detto e ribadito un sacco di volte in questi anni, i CEX non sono il male assoluto, ovviamente fanno i loro interessi perché alla fine sono aziende e puntano il profitto, ma per qualcuno che si avvicina al mondo di BTC sono estremamente importanti. Io oramai non compro da una vita ma i miei acquisti sono sempre stati fatti sui CEX per una questione di semplicità, comodità e sicurezza, mai e poi mai avrei fatto acquisti per strada con qualche sconosciuto. A ognuno il suo comunque, questo è solo il mio pensiero.

eh si! mi è capitato di leggere ogni tanto qualche heaters di CEX, odio sinceramente senza un filo logico! almeno chè non abbiano preso l'inchiappettata da qualche CEX sperduto dentro un garage in polinesia, potrei capirli ma fare di tutta l'erba un fascio ce ne vuole. come hai ben detto loro puntano ovviamente al profitto, e purtroppo o menomale senza cex secondo me si rallenterebbe e di molto l'adozione di massa! mi viene da pensare, chi di noi si alza la mattina e pensare che portare a casa la pagnotta non sia importante? ecco lo stesso vale per loro! che poi dietro le quinte ci sono loschi giri quello è un problema noto e ben poco noi possiamo fare
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