Плоская земля, сферическая какая разница?) Похоже что мы простые смертные истины не узнаем потому как от нас её тщательно скрывают. Но тайн и загадок земли много, например Арктика. В Арктику за последние 100 лет отправлялось сотни экспедиций, установлено десятки исследовательских станций, вложено миллиарды долларов и других валют- для чего? Изучать или искать нефть, погоду,течения, пингвинов? Что они там делают  Some records indicate a magnetic mountain that can pull nails out of ships and a horrible black dust. The world tree was suppose to have stood there at one time. Honestly I have no clue, it's as secluded as Antarctica; It's not like anybody can just go there and see. Admiral Byrd says "it's crowded up there" whatever that's suppose to mean. “Nobody goes down there any more, it's too crowded,.” |
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Why the government does not subponea Cloudfare, Inc
We don't know that. It might show up here but this is only aggregated info so no way to know for sure: https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/We could also watch PACER or state court records but those wouldn't show anything until a lawsuit is filed. Investigation details are rarely public. Besides I have little doubt that the servers behind Cloudflare are about as anonymous as possible. The only hope for law enforcement is that the scammers messed up somewhere, like Ulbricht with his gmail address. How is it that server operators who move extremely important data across the [flat] globe are exempt from KYC et al. laws? Investard: Yes, I would like to withdraw my U$10 from your exchange. Exchange: Please provide 18 forms of ID and we'll get back with you in no less than two months while we conduct a review (read: sell your vitals on the Deep Web). ISIS: I need you to anonymously host a website for me so that I can communicate with my troops on the ground. Server Operator: No prob, dude. Would you like the server behind curtain number one, curtain number two, or ... Meanwhile, ... FBI: Mr. Server Dude, please provide all you have on the Silk Road website admin. Server Dude: No prob, but please make up a believable story as to how you obtained the info. FBI: We'll do our job as we suggest to you to shut up and do your job upon request, else it's a fake drowning in a hotel bathtub for your icy ass. Server Dude: Hey, I have a racist Mormon friend who fucks his daughter and owns a bathtub company. Can we use one of his tubs to stage said act? FBI: Damn, I didn't see that in the script for the upcoming FOX movie of the week. Come to think of it, I now wonder who's playin' the role of the racist daughter-fucker Mormon, Curtis Green, an active member of the BitcoinTalk forum whose Merit count thingy is on the rise due to his informative posts. Server Dude: Speakin' of Mormons, how you're mega data mining farm structure where all pipes lead comin' along there in Utah? |
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I don't know half of those coins you mentioned but I just doubled my BCC to 1000 coins. They might be getting delisted on coinexchange and livecoin (they haven't really disclosed the reasons - it's a bit fishy that it was almost at the same time) but they will be on BCCX exchange. The exchange better open as they sell out the ICO every day. I don't believe they fake it either, there is a 100BCCX daily limit so it must need thousands of users each day to fill the quota. It seems like they really will raise many hundreds of millions in the ICO.
I also don't really believe they scammed anyone. Davor didn't let anyone profit in the lending (even the ones at the start only came out even unless they got an extra bonus) but many people made a lot of money with the bitconnect lending. The promoters such as Yuris etc signed some sort of agreement in a bitconnect conference held on the 28th Jan somewhere (not sure if it was in Indonesia now) so apparently they are thinking of a better solution than just waiting for it to be sorted out when BCCX starts (as they claimed was going to happen in the meeting).
Remember that the BCCX accounts use the same login information as bitconnect so they will know whose accounts need refunding.
Nobody is refunding anything. You said there was a plan to be revealed in 10 days or some such nonsense, and there has been more than 10 days. The ponzi is over. You can send them more money for their next ponzi if you're such a believer. BCC is dead. It will flounder (ahhh damn now I'm craving seafood) and slowly decay to being nearly worthless. There will be meta-scammers trying to fleece the most gullible stubborn bagholders, like the twitter example above. There will be pump'n'dumpers trying to make it sound like this shitclone is somehow better than thousands of other shitclones. It's not. I didn't get into BCC until a few days ago. To me its a SHIT ICO like any other 100% premined SHIT ICO. What is this so bad? Just because the creator was a scammer, it doesnt mean BCC is bad. It an open source decentralized coin. How is this worse than TRON(TRX) or Evion or IOTA. All ICOs out with with a few exceptions are total SCAMs made to enrich one or two people. At least BCC made many people money during its scam. I am Nyancoin and I had an order for 2 Satoshis and it would not sell. Its a usekess coin with no developer and no future. I had a lot maybe $2000 worth. Finally I sold most of it for 1 satoshis on bter.com (Im a old timer here but my old username was compromised). Anyway, its 30 Satoshis now and even hit 60 Satoshis a little while back. How can BCC be worse than all of these? Think of BCC as a coin independent of its pyramid scam founder. We dont lose faith in the US$ if one drug dealer uses a lot of it for a pyramid or its dealings, right? BCC is only mined 28M coins with a small market cap. It does have the potential to move up. Specially that there is a ton of developments on its windows and other wallets that most other coins do not have. Just wait until the noise is settled. The circulation supply was/is 9,216,827 BCC, with over a million people in the program equating to ~9 BCC per person. Something doesn't add up! |
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no one merit i only got 5 merit from someone thats sucks really
The merit system is a dead failure. It only allows the advanced members to gain more bounty rewards...I'm sure that is why it was imposed... This is Bitcoin forum. Not a bounty forum. The fact that most complainers seem to be focused on making money is a good indication that the merit system is a step in the right direction. Who the hell welcomed you this thread with your logic? +6 sM loaned to you, now go away.  |
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Vod, I gave you +6 sM so to radily dole out [half] to users' posts you deem worthy.
Thank you. I guess we can cancel the 500 lashes with an al dente wet noodle.  NOONONNOONONONONOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I truly deserve it. No cancel, please. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=zqE-ultsWt0The new BFR (Big Falcon Rocket) will be able to fly up to 250 people from any city on the planet to any other city on the planet in under an hour - most under 30 mins. It should be ready this year, and can relaunched hourly.  Think of all the thousands of people controlling these ships, and the millions of people that will eventually fly around the globe. If notbatman is telling the truth, all those people would have to notice the earth was flat! They would notice when they bounced off a dome surrounding the earth! We are talking about the LARGEST ECONOMY OF ALL TIME to continually pay off everyone to lie and say the earth is actually round. Those we can't pay off we would have to killed, right?  Didn't Musk mention that those rocket flights would be roughly the price of a business class ticket too? Finally I'd be able to fly across the globe and back for dinner! I could kiss 24 different women at 24 different sunsets, all within one day! Only if they waited for you at the respective launch pads. What type of pads? Flat with wings or inserts with strings? |
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Off topic, but I'll just leave these here.  What next, Michelle Obama has a penis?  |
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Looks like raasakh abandoned this project after trying to advance youtubecoin.com, of which the domain originally was purchased by me but let it lapse since it obviously would infringe on Google's copyright. For those who've lost their ass in this scam, feel free to try to recoup some of your loses with YuTü.Co.in, a real platform having teeth. Visit our ICO thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2580003.0. Thanks in advance for your anticipated support. Bruno |
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hey Bruno,
good luck with this ico, and beyond. looked good to me, so i'm in, twice.
Thanks kindly for your wonderful support, ETHmyXMRs. YTC has been sent earlier today to both your ETH wallet addresses on account. FWIW, we opted to limit purchases to U$500 per user account or ETH wallet address during the first round with the intent of making sure that as many users as possible will be able to take advantage of the offering. Yes, the system can easily be gamed, but rest assured that all users desiring to take advantage of the current low price point of YTC will most likely be able to do so. There has been tremendous activities behind the scenes in developing and advancing YuTü.Co.in, thus ensuring early supporters to handsomely make bank with minimum investments once Beta launch and beyond. At this penning, we've sold 18.304% worth of YTC in achieving the self-imposed U$25K Soft Cap we intend on reaching. Please don't confuse our endeavor with that of the rogue Russian dude's YouTubeCoin -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1960168.0 (looks dead from here - see OP's last login date). To this day, we don't have a clue as to what he's trying to peddle -> http://youtubecoin.blogspot.ru/. Yet, folks sent him money in hopes of getting what ... again, no clue. We look forward to seeing continued support in the coming days. Bruno |
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Seriously, that's all it took to quiet this thread for the past 2 1/2 hours? Well, I got some more news of you, Sunshine, this'll keep you quiet for another three ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HhxX02gwaE (the ending is a killer ) |
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Also, one more thing. It is absolute BS that the Youtube Promoters are under fire about this. They all lost their money too and were affected just as much me and anyone else that was using Bitconnect. This is as stupid as the first story that came out about someone sewing McDonalds for making them fat. Its stupid because that person is blaming McDonalds for their own failure to have self discipline not to eat junk food. Yet they won the case and the world no longer has super size as an option.
So people are blaming the youtube promoters knowing full well they were taking on a risk. Craig Grant, Trevon James, and CryptoNick all lost way over $2 Million between all of them and ppl want to sew them? They advertised to us about doing Bitconnect. We did it, but guess what: The Bitconnect user created their account, sent Bitcoin, bought Bitconnect and then 'Accepted' the lending contract to lend out Bitconnect. The Youtube promoters didn't do any of that so for God SAKES PEOPLE, take some responsibility and leave the Youtube Promoters alone.
THE ONLY REASON PPL ARE BLAMING THE YOUTUBE PROMOTERS IS BECAUSE DEEP DOWN THEY KNOW THEY FKED UP AND GOT THEMSELVES IN A HORRIBLE SITUATION. BUT THEY SEE THE YOUTUBE PROMOTERS HAVING SO MUCH MONEY STILL SO THEIR TRYING TO TAKE A BITE OUT OF THEM. The real truth is people aren't facing the fact that they made a bad decision and are dealing with a huge loss just like myself. My advice is to blame yourself, learn from your mistake, and move on. If you can't face your problems head on, then grow TF up.
I disagree, the promoters most of the time only showed the potential gains and not the potential risk, and in general just enticed newbies to invest in something they didn't understand. That Jedi Knight guy was making videos telling people bitconnect was the perfect hedge against bitcoin!....4 months ago i literally had to block all bitconnect related videos on youtube because i couldnt stand how people were promoting it. McDonalds commercials also just show potential gains in taste buds getting satisfied. No risks are ever posted on Fast food commercials so how do they get away from not getting sewed when someone goes to the hospital with health issues related to the processed McDonalds food.  "After enjoying a Winston, we're both heading down to the new tasty hamburger join in town to order us some McT-Rexs, then off to bed to make a pile, if you know what I mean.
Hint: Bam-bam, if you're versed in onomatopoeia." |
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Also, one more thing. It is absolute BS that the Youtube Promoters are under fire about this. They all lost their money too and were affected just as much me and anyone else that was using Bitconnect. This is as stupid as the first story that came out about someone sewing McDonalds for making them fat. Its stupid because that person is blaming McDonalds for their own failure to have self discipline not to eat junk food. Yet they won the case and the world no longer has super size as an option.
So people are blaming the youtube promoters knowing full well they were taking on a risk. Craig Grant, Trevon James, and CryptoNick all lost way over $2 Million between all of them and ppl want to sew them? They advertised to us about doing Bitconnect. We did it, but guess what: The Bitconnect user created their account, sent Bitcoin, bought Bitconnect and then 'Accepted' the lending contract to lend out Bitconnect. The Youtube promoters didn't do any of that so for God SAKES PEOPLE, take some responsibility and leave the Youtube Promoters alone.
THE ONLY REASON PPL ARE BLAMING THE YOUTUBE PROMOTERS IS BECAUSE DEEP DOWN THEY KNOW THEY FKED UP AND GOT THEMSELVES IN A HORRIBLE SITUATION. BUT THEY SEE THE YOUTUBE PROMOTERS HAVING SO MUCH MONEY STILL SO THEIR TRYING TO TAKE A BITE OUT OF THEM. The real truth is people aren't facing the fact that they made a bad decision and are dealing with a huge loss just like myself. My advice is to blame yourself, learn from your mistake, and move on. If you can't face your problems head on, then grow TF up.
Trevon James in on record in stating that he was on welfare prior to hooking up with BitConnect. That said, exactly where did that big chuck of the ~U$2M which he lost come from? Further, if a person is on the brink of disaster, should they be residing in an expensive hotel or return to sightly above their roots (seriously, no pun intended here; the gist is obvious), living within their means. BTW, bud, my last post was not meant to dis you or your sentiment. Just shedding additional light is all. Peace. |
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He said bitcoin was “far inferior to existing payment options” because it was slow and expensive. Bitcoin transactions can easily take several hours to process. “At these speeds, if you bought a bunch of tulips with bitcoin they may well have wilted by the time the transaction was confirmed.” Since you’re here …
… we have a small favour to ask. More people are reading the Guardian than ever but advertising revenues across the media are falling fast. And unlike many news organisations, we haven’t put up a paywall – we want to keep our journalism as open as we can. So you can see why we need to ask for your help. The Guardian’s independent, investigative journalism takes a lot of time, money and hard work to produce. But we do it because we believe our perspective matters – because it might well be your perspective, too. Dear Gardian, Please remit to me your bitcoin wallet address so that I can make a donation unless, perhaps, you prefer wilted tulips. Your call. AnonomatopoeiaKa-Pow |
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... skipping the fallacies ...
The lending platforms should work properly if the people running them know what they are doing and I still think they are a good model as they generate profits for the company with the lending so are not real ponzis
Generating profit for scammers doesn't mean it's not a ponzi. In fact the whole reason for the scammers to take the risk to run such illegal scheme would be to generate a profit. These are not "lending platforms". The borrowed funds are not used for any other purpose other than to perpetuate the scam, which ends when there aren't enough suckers bringing in new money. You are really dense to keep repeating your own erroneous views. You probably noticed I stopped responding to you before because of this. How many times have I explained how the actual 'lending' part is profitable for the company and also the lender. The company while it runs smoothly, pays back less coins than are lent, so it's like the reverse of staking coins since people get back less coins but are still happy due to the marketing and increase in coin price (they can afford this marketing due to their profits). It is deflationary as long as the company don't sell all these extra coins and just keep some out of circulation, but even if at times the coin didn't increase in price, they would just need to use their reserves of the coins (you probably noticed most have large premines for this reason, although ERC20 tokens can have unlimited supply if they wanted) and this would cause inflation and possibly a lack of buyers at some point (inflation is also what happens with all staking coins but lending when operating well is deflationary - lending doesn't even guarantee any return). So as long as the coin doesn't fall to ridiculous levels and remains stable in price, the lending platform can continue. You might have noticed that Bitconnect, unlike Davor, had a very stable price that tended to increase a lot so that means the company was actually making profits. If the coin wasn't going up, the lending would still function but the company couldn't take any profits without stealing from investors and harming the platform. The company are not stealing from investors with the lending because the lenders are happy with the reduced profits as long as the company uses their profits to increase the coin value with buy back or marketing etc so the lenders accept this is how they make money. They also bring value by guaranteeing the investment value amount from fluctuations in the market. That is why it's a good model for cryptocurrencies. Basically, you have never shown one iota of understanding about the lending platform model so it's no use even responding to your comments until you show you have listened and have at least some understanding. Thanks for the enlightenment, bud. Now I fully see how lenders made a profit off BitConnect. They loaned X BCC to them, whereupon they paid back X - Y. Granted, I'm still a tad confused as to how BitConnect made their money, probably having something to do with the Z-factor, but unfortunately equations containing more than two variables or constants is (or is it 'are') beyond my prowess, albeit back in the 70's I would've been able to perform such equations in my head like I did for ALL the questions on the SAT, earning a perfect 800 in its math section and the first one in the room to complete said portion of the SAT taken at IU, then went fishing with my dad at Brown County Forest Preserve, but I digress. I've been following this thread closely after Bitconnects fall out last month. Its been a nightmarish ride, but somehow I held onto my coins and even got them into the QT wallet. I'm finally at the point where my BCC are staking. I'm resolved to just leave them in there and see what happens. I've already lost 99% value on them so whats another 1% when there is at least some potential to make some of it back on a pop.
One scenario thats popped in my head:
BCCX exchange could open listing BCC, but what if BCC gets rebranded to BCCX? Kind of like how AntShares got rebranded to NEO. It changed the whole look for the AntShares Crypto and I'm sure everyone has seen how well NEO is doing now. I'm not comparing NEO to BCC though. I'm merely just suggesting that a rebrand and color change of BCC to BCCX could be in the cards. If they can use the new BCCX exchange to legitimize BCC's use case and utility, then that could bring a significant amount of volume back to BCC. Of course they won't be bringing back lending services again since it provokes the ponzi scheme hunters to come out.
Another scenario is:
What if on their new BCCX exchange they create pairs that allow you to use BCC to buy other Cryptos other then Bitcoin. Like ETH/BCC or NEO/BCC which would bring volume to BCC because then people would be using it to buy other Cryptos. Of course this sound controversial just typing it because so many have convinced themselves that BCC is a scam coin even though its more decentralized then ever.
Bottom line: I've already mentally accepted this lost so if it goes to 0 then so be it. I'm going down with the ship or I'm going back up with it. But I do think Bitconnect has some moves left to possibly create BCC value again.
*I'm not promoting anyone buy BCC. I'm not giving financial advice. So save your comments and complaints about promoting a 'scam' coin and bla bla bla. I'm merely just sharing my thoughts and speculation on how BCC can create value again. If anyone is interesting in having a mature discussion about it, feel free to reply.
That's a brilliant idea! Allow BitConnect to operate their own exchange in restoring trust in them. Of course this would create a nightmare for its owners, for down the road they would have to devise another exit strategy, one not yet used AND believable, else they'll have to resort back to blaming the exchange's demise on the ye ol' standby - FUD and ... wait for it ... TEXAS. |
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didn't you notice all the adverts and commissions coinmarketcap make from real ponzis like laser.online and bitpetite (their advertising is not cheap but they must also receive referral commissions as they were listed as referring millions of dollars weekly to bitpetite TL;DR: Coinmarketcap likely does not control the ads on their site. They're based on your Google profile and site content. This is how advertising on Coinmarketcap works: Coinmarketcap says to Google, hey I got a guy here about to browse this page, and we have 4 ad slots available on the page. So Google goes, ok, you're a cryptocurrency site, here's 4 ads that we think your visitors are likely to click on. Oh wait, this guy, AGM76 that's about to read that page, we know he's been to other sites, sites like bitpetite. So let's serve him some related ads. Every person who comes to Coinmarketcap sees ads tailored on what the site is about, and also to match whatever Google knows about you. So if you go to a lot of crypto "lending" sites, Google will serve you ads for those sites, or sites like that. Most people will go to Coinmarketcap and never see an ad for a crooked site. So if you're trying to insinuate anything and make connections between advertising that's served uniquely to you and some grander scheme, you're going to need to come up with some solid proof. Well, you're wrong. Look at the bottom links on CMC, you'll find this one: https://coinmarketcap.com/advertising/( $10000 minimum budget to advertise on their site ) Actually, CMC does both ... The above ad was gleaned from the bottom of their page. By clicking what the red arrow is pointing at, you arrive here ... https://support.google.com/adsense/troubleshooter/1631343?url=https://coinmarketcap.com/&gl=US&hl=en&client=ca-pub-7002491002409919&ai0=C4-s1dYt8Wv-bA872iQPo64rgCYuy-alQ-_vG8scGrQIQASCnxucsYMmuxIbEo8gXoAGX5b7GA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBLMBT9B4Hwjjyw1OayJFcIkylwWGEiLLnaQe5moc86_hK9AF28nKAMEoLufhSbrmkOyyKXsoN3S9W62Nmo561InY--TuD0C0FP8AJ6cEqmejkfRiZts0-oHtzqubo9WvlTLo-88PpEf0VjaGQu8xqylaMi_HDRej8z4n2tvDdluP1sx_mXorBXo2ZhOx1Egi0-wSZbl4nTGchpyh4PigpMBb3Pzw1wwfQQoKRvO0KeH-CVU2v8zgBAGAB5DN-SSoB6a-G9gHAdIIBwiAARABGAHyCBthZHgtc3Vic3luLTc5NjE4MDI5MDcyOTYyMDaxCQlam387BrO0gAoD2BMM&visit_id=1-636537085946486122-3791983906&rd=1To hedge their page monetization even further, CMC employs Coin Traffic via a popup ... |
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